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More proof Hispanics are white

They are trying to rig the Telemundo poll to make it look like Trump actually won the debate. Are they loco?

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by Anonymousreply 59October 3, 2020 3:28 PM

If hispanics are white, there's no coalition of minorities.

by Anonymousreply 1October 1, 2020 2:21 AM

Bullshit poll

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by Anonymousreply 2October 1, 2020 2:21 AM

Many Latinos are white. Alexis Bledel, Perez Hilton, Gisele Bundchen, Cameron Diaz. I'm white and Latino and also half Jewish. Is it so hard to understand that being Latino has nothing to do with race?

As for Latinos supporting Trump, they're mostly white latinos from Cuba. It's easy to understand why they turn conservatives after escaping the island.

by Anonymousreply 3October 1, 2020 2:24 AM

Yeah, that poll is useless.

It was some twitter poll.

Completely unscientific.

by Anonymousreply 4October 1, 2020 2:24 AM

They rigged the CSPAN poll.

As if Trump voters watch CSPAN

by Anonymousreply 5October 1, 2020 2:24 AM

The Washington Post also owns Newsweek. I don’t think the same people took both polls.

by Anonymousreply 6October 1, 2020 2:25 AM

Telemundo is NBC, they would never rig a poll for Trump. It has to pain them their poll did not favor Biden.

by Anonymousreply 7October 1, 2020 2:25 AM

R3 every person you mentioned is “Hispanic” by one parent or not even, based on a Grandparent or Great Grandparent. You always do that too. You never ever acknowledge the people who are LATINO like Salma Hayek.

Most Hispanics aren’t white, btw

by Anonymousreply 8October 1, 2020 2:26 AM

Then it must’ve been Russians because real people of color hate Trump.

by Anonymousreply 9October 1, 2020 2:26 AM

Latinos are pretty conservative over all. And most hate black people.

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by Anonymousreply 10October 1, 2020 2:26 AM

NBC employer of Donald Trump for ten years, not skew a poll for that turd?

by Anonymousreply 11October 1, 2020 2:27 AM
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by Anonymousreply 12October 1, 2020 2:27 AM

Latinos can be Black, White, or Asian. Is this another troll thread? Oh my, I’ve been taken in again.

by Anonymousreply 13October 1, 2020 2:29 AM

R10, that’s just more proof of whiteness.

by Anonymousreply 14October 1, 2020 2:29 AM

R8 Salma Hayek is a Lebanese Mexican just like Shakira is a Lebanese Colombian. In Latin America, Lebanese are considered white.

by Anonymousreply 15October 1, 2020 2:30 AM

Cameron Diaz is half Cuban so whites love using her as an example for White Hispanics, when she is also HALF GERMAN and looks nothing like her father. She came out looking like mom.

Some of those “White” Hispanics have brown (or even black) parents at times but came out looking like the white parent.

by Anonymousreply 16October 1, 2020 2:30 AM

R15 Lebanese is not considered white in Europe.

by Anonymousreply 17October 1, 2020 2:30 AM

Salma Hayek is not white. Sorry not sorry. Let’s stop with that mess.

by Anonymousreply 18October 1, 2020 2:31 AM

R8 You mean La Raza I'm sure, but Salma Hayek has no native Mexican heritage.

by Anonymousreply 19October 1, 2020 2:33 AM

Another troll thread to put a hit on Latinos.

by Anonymousreply 20October 1, 2020 2:35 AM

Majority of Hispanics are mestizo but that isn’t acknowledged in the USA.

by Anonymousreply 21October 1, 2020 2:36 AM

Probably the Cubans, Argentinians, Venezuelans, and Colombians wanna be white. But us Chicanos are good with being ourselves. No shame im being brown. Family, friendships, humility and tradition are what matters. We get along with gringos and Blacks - no drama where there is none.

by Anonymousreply 22October 1, 2020 2:36 AM

"Ay Yai Yai Yai"

by Anonymousreply 23October 1, 2020 2:38 AM

R22 that’s what I’m saying. Most brown Hispanics are fine being brown, but in the states it’s either be white or black when they are neither.

by Anonymousreply 24October 1, 2020 2:39 AM

We know, Redundant Thread Thief:

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by Anonymousreply 25October 1, 2020 2:39 AM

[quote] every person you mentioned is “Hispanic” by one parent or not even, based on a Grandparent or Great Grandparent. You always do that too. You never ever acknowledge the people who are LATINO like Salma Hayek.

Who the fuck are you to say I always say this? you don't even know me. Fuck you. I didn't mention Salma because she's not an example of white passing Latina, are you stupid? Brazil is full of whites in their southern states, same for Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia and even Mexico. You're just a moron. Latin America is huge, no one said every Latino is white, I said Latinos can be.

by Anonymousreply 26October 1, 2020 2:42 AM

R16 Many Spanish, Portuguese, French and English colonizers settled in these countries and many of their descendants still live there today. Many Italians, Germans, Irish, Canary Islanders, Polish and Scottish migrated to Latin America during the 20th century. Do you forget "Mejorar la Raza"? Latin countries wanted to breed out their Indigenous and African DNA and paid Europeans to migrate over. South America was not densely populated like Central America. Most of South America was not populated at all, so many South American countries are mostly European. Argentina never had a large Indigenous population and the black population died out pretty quickly. Many Argentines have Italian ancestry. Brazil is half white and half black with a large mixed population and a sizable Asian minority and a tiny Indigenous population. Brazilians have Polish, German and Irish ancestry. Many Colombians and Peruvians are Mestizos or many Colombians are black. Mexico does have a white population, you can turn on Mexican TV and see only whites on it. Mexico has a population that descended from the Spanish but there are also Polish, Irish and German descended Mexicans and they get hired on Mexican TV or hired to model in Mexican magazines.

Also the Caribbean is mostly black but there are pure white populations in Jamaica, Haiti, Cuba, Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic. Also there are Indian and East Asian populations in the Caribbean too. Jamaicans are mostly Black but many have some white and Asian ancestry. Dominicans are a mix of black and white. Puerto Ricans are mostly white with a lot of black and some Taino. The Caribbean Indigenous population was wiped out massively very early on except for Puerto Rico. So most Caribbeans are not Mestizo but are mostly a mix of black and white but some can be tri-racial (black, white and Asian/Indian or black, white and Taino).

R18 She's considered white in Mexico. Different countries, different standards. THE WORLD IS NOT THE USA. Many Middle Easterners, Jews and North Africans migrated to Latin America and they aren't Indigenous and they aren't black and they aren't Mestizo. So they are considered white there.

by Anonymousreply 27October 1, 2020 2:44 AM

Brazil is where some Confederates escaped to after the war and tried to bring back their old way of life.

by Anonymousreply 28October 1, 2020 2:45 AM

Cuba was considered to be annexed by the Confederacy too. It was one of the few places that still had slavery just like Brazil! Brazil and Cuba had large white populations actually which is why they were able to control the slave population well.

Haiti and Jamaica had a lot of slave revolts which was helped by having a very large black population and free black population as well. Haiti actually had a Revolution led by both black and mixed race Haitians who overthrew the French colonial government and kicked out majority of the white population. The white Haitians fled to Louisiana and made up a large proportion of the white Creole population.

by Anonymousreply 29October 1, 2020 2:49 AM

We, Chicanos already have made NV, NM, and CA Democratic forever. Next is AZ. Then in 12 years the big enchilada, TX. Fuckin Hispanic retards in FL keep on voting against our best collective interest and enjoy living under oppressive figures.

by Anonymousreply 30October 1, 2020 2:54 AM

Hispanics didn't exist before the 1970s. Before then you actually called people by their nationality like "Mexican", "Dominican", "Puerto Rican", "Cuban", "Guatemalan", etc. I don't know why such a lazy and useless and very racist term is still being used by the US government. Oh wait, The US is really racist country that needs to unnecessarily divide people into a different category because of the language they speak. They don't do this for any other group. Many people in Louisiana and people from Quebec speak French but they aren't called Franconics.

by Anonymousreply 31October 1, 2020 2:56 AM

"More proof Hispanics are white"

Ummm...no.

I'm not white.

by Anonymousreply 32October 1, 2020 2:59 AM

R31, they were just called “Puerto Rican” when I was growing up. “Spanish” if they looked prosperous or you wanted to be polite.

by Anonymousreply 33October 1, 2020 3:00 AM

Puerto Rican’s, Mexicans etc. were all seen as different. They weren’t considered white in the slightest bit

by Anonymousreply 34October 1, 2020 3:00 AM

Well then maybe we should start calling them that, R31.

by Anonymousreply 35October 1, 2020 3:00 AM

The Hornet poll of gay men has chosen a running mate. It's twitter poll. This ticket will have you rolling your eyes for days.

by Anonymousreply 36October 1, 2020 3:02 AM

As a Chicano, Trump called me, my whole family, my friends and business associates, rapists and criminal. I wanna smack the shit of my Mexican ppl that forget that this piece of shit built his premise on hating us. Our very existence offends him

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by Anonymousreply 37October 1, 2020 3:04 AM

r16 have you seen her father? who told you that all latinos must be of mixed race? you have to be one of those who say southern europeans are not white since MOST of them have north african and middle eastern genes, the same as manyyyyyy blond blue eyes russians and eastern europeans who have turkish, gypsies and siberian genes.you should take a look some reddit forums on genetic tests.

then prince harris and his brother are not whites either because it has been demostrated that they have an indian female ancestor, and in order for people to look european they gave to have minimun 80% of european genes. therefore, they are whites.

in cuba, genetic studies have shown that people who consider themselves whites, have a minimun of 85% european genes. you can not ask somebody that has phenotype and more than 85% european genes to consider themselve black or even mestizo. yes in latin america and cuba there were also racial prejudices and races were separated and never really mingled that much in certain parts of cuba, brazil etc.

you can not tell a hispanic who is more than 85% european, and who looks white to feel "latino" just because there are people with more than 85% native or black genes who do not pass as whites and are considered latinos by anglos. that is not going to happen.

when I worked for a police department as a clerk we had to classify latinos as white or hispanic/latino. we were not looking for how much european dna they had, but only whether they look white or mestizo/ mulato,or native.

by Anonymousreply 38October 1, 2020 3:08 AM

Most people with a decent education know that Hispanic is not a race or even an ethnicity. It just refers to people who speak Spanish. Just like Latino refers to people who speak a Romance language. People who are even smarter now that the term Hispanic was created in the 1970s to refer to growing Mexican-American population who spoke Spanish. Most people realize now it's a stupid term because it generalizes over 20 different nationalities into one monolith and can even include people from Spain.

But since this is The US where a lot of people are proud to admit they don't even read, don't own a passport and also are ignorant and racist. When they see the word Hispanic or Spanish they picture a brown-skinned Mestizo Mexican and are ignorant of how diverse Latin America is.

by Anonymousreply 39October 1, 2020 3:10 AM

Omfg. WHITE AND BLACK ARE NOT THE ONLY RACES. WE HAVE EVOLVED. R39 YOUR EDUCATION IS OUTDATED

by Anonymousreply 40October 1, 2020 3:11 AM

White Latinos are like White Southerners. They may have some Indigenous or some black ancestry but they look white enough that it is inconsequential. Race is a social construct with a lot of it based completely around your outside phenotype hence white-passing. And unlike The US which in the near past, you were discovered you to have black ancestry people would treat you differently. In Latin America, you can tell everyone you have Indigenous or black ancestry but if you still look white nobody would care and still treat you better as you are still white.

by Anonymousreply 41October 1, 2020 3:23 AM

as I said before, genetic studies have shown that the frecuency of european genes in cuba is above 85% percent, and in miami above 90% and that doesnt take into account that cubans with north african dna comes from southern europeans. so the european gene contribution is actually above 85 and 90 if you add the north african admixture.

many white cubans say, quien no tiene de congo, tiene de carabali( the ones who dont have ancestry from congo, have it from carabali) it is a way of white cubans of acknoledging that nobody is pure race, most cubans are not into white superiority or white purity. however, they would never identify as mestizo, and rightly so, because most of them only have traces of black ancestry from hundreds of years ago, and some of that little black dna that white cubans have came from the canary islands, azores and madeira inmigrants.

white cubans do not hve to pretend to be white, cuz they are rightly so. you can not ask a korean to feel chinese, let alone a cuban to feel native american.

this is a 23andme genetic map of black, natuve and white genes in latin america, notice that cuba, argentina and brazil are the ones with the highest level of european admixture.

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by Anonymousreply 42October 1, 2020 4:44 AM

for centrall america

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by Anonymousreply 43October 1, 2020 4:45 AM

abd the caribean

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by Anonymousreply 44October 1, 2020 4:46 AM

Fuckin Cubans wanna be white? go ahead. They love being shithead voters and do as they are told. Fuck if they are white R44? You racist fat fuck!

by Anonymousreply 45October 1, 2020 4:55 AM

Why does this matter exactly? Latinos who look white are republican? Wtf?

by Anonymousreply 46October 1, 2020 4:56 AM

r45 i dont understand why would white cubans be racists for saying the obvious, that they trully europeans, they cant delete thouthands of years of european root for the sake of joining some made up ethnic group and not being call racists. go ask white south africans and australians if they are not whites, in spite of having trace amounts of black and aborigine dna, and see what they say.

by Anonymousreply 47October 1, 2020 5:05 AM

Because gringos don't like u Fidel Castro traitor asses R47. The future of America runs through the southwest.

by Anonymousreply 48October 1, 2020 5:08 AM

the latin american countries with the highest level of european dna are argentina, uruguay and cuba.

by Anonymousreply 49October 2, 2020 5:39 PM

There are white hispanics. But being Hispanic doesn’t mean You’re white. All Hispanics aren’t white.

by Anonymousreply 50October 2, 2020 5:44 PM

I'm Hispanic and black; 21% European genes. Since I'm mostly black, I go with black. My mom is the opposite; 27% black. The important thing is I vote Biden.

by Anonymousreply 51October 2, 2020 6:31 PM

I am Hispanic and 28% black yet have Beautiful brown skin. We are mixed.

by Anonymousreply 52October 2, 2020 6:32 PM

What about the Latinx I keep hearing about?

by Anonymousreply 53October 2, 2020 6:38 PM

Most Hispanics aren’t white

by Anonymousreply 54October 2, 2020 6:40 PM

R37 "Trump called me, my whole family, my friends and business associates, rapists and criminal"

Um, no he didn't. He didn't say anything about you or your family. Read the quotes. He referred in general to illegals from Mexico, and qualified his statements.

"They're bringing crime. They're rapists. [bold] And some, I assume, are good people [/bold]." "They are, [bold] in many cases [/bold], criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc."

by Anonymousreply 55October 2, 2020 6:54 PM

R55 is a Trumper. Makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 56October 2, 2020 6:56 PM

[quote] Just like Latino refers to people who speak a Romance language.

I didn't know that Romanians were Latino.

by Anonymousreply 57October 3, 2020 1:05 AM

I've lost IQ points reading this thread.

by Anonymousreply 58October 3, 2020 2:07 AM

[quote] I didn't know that Romanians were Latino.

You mean like how they turned Ann Romano into a Latina?

by Anonymousreply 59October 3, 2020 3:28 PM
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