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I wonder why Tim Kaine didn't run for president

You'd think he would have wanted to capitalize on being Hillary's veep choice and maybe carry over her votes.

by Anonymousreply 23September 29, 2020 8:57 PM

He brought nothing to the table in 2016. Pretty much every candidate running in the primaries stood a better chance than Kaine ever would.

by Anonymousreply 1September 29, 2020 3:16 AM

Tim Kaine is not delusional enough to think he had any chance to win the primary.

Hillary picked him precisely because he was a boring pick.

by Anonymousreply 2September 29, 2020 3:18 AM

Why'd Hillary want a boring pick?

by Anonymousreply 3September 29, 2020 3:20 AM

She couldn't even pick a decent running mate.

by Anonymousreply 4September 29, 2020 3:21 AM

Because he is as boring as a bag of hammers and has the same level of personality. Actually, the bag of hammers would have more.

by Anonymousreply 5September 29, 2020 3:21 AM

Who?

by Anonymousreply 6September 29, 2020 3:24 AM

She should have picked a younger more charismatic guy. His youth would have rubbed off on people's perception of her and made her more palatable to those who didn't like her or were uninspired to vote for her.

by Anonymousreply 7September 29, 2020 3:24 AM

He had no presence and no look.

by Anonymousreply 8September 29, 2020 3:30 AM

She wanted someone she could groom to follow her instead of someone with a mind of his/her own. She ended up picking someone with a lapdog personality. She should have picked an attack dog instead to do the dirty work of attacking Trump/Pence.

by Anonymousreply 9September 29, 2020 3:30 AM

Kaine looked scared in his debate with Pence.

by Anonymousreply 10September 29, 2020 3:31 AM

I couldn’t pick Tim Kaine out of a police lineup.

by Anonymousreply 11September 29, 2020 3:31 AM

Dear God.

by Anonymousreply 12September 29, 2020 3:32 AM

R11 is Mrs. Tim Kaine.

by Anonymousreply 13September 29, 2020 3:33 AM

Who else was on her shortlist? I can’t remember.

by Anonymousreply 14September 29, 2020 3:45 AM

Unless you’re FDR, losing vice-presidential candidates don’t historically have much of a future as presidential candidates.

by Anonymousreply 15September 29, 2020 4:32 AM

People know he’s a closet gay.

by Anonymousreply 16September 29, 2020 6:19 AM

I'm trying to see Trump as a cautionary tale, what can happen as a result of apathy. We can never let a Trump happen again.

But hopefully we can remove him before he does too much damage.

by Anonymousreply 17September 29, 2020 6:41 AM

The Dems wanted to ensure a win in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Now VA is pretty much blue, but in 2016 it wasn't a sure thing. But you know what was a sure thing in 2016: MI, WI, PA.

by Anonymousreply 18September 29, 2020 6:58 AM

Don't forget she wanted boring Kaine because she saw herself as the personification of a female Obama, a change agent. That's why we had the horrible, "I'm with her" campaign slogan for a minute. Even Trump's recycled slogan wasn't 100% about himself. She also hit people over the head with the annoying glass ceiling thing. She's such a 70s feminist, can't help but love her for being a relic.

Kaine is smart to keep his ass in the senate. He failed at his one job during the campaign and that was to embarrass Pence. Hillary should have just asked Joe to stay on for another round.

by Anonymousreply 19September 29, 2020 7:08 AM

Hillary was also bound and determined to not pick a male who would have more personality than she did. That sets the bar lower to start because warmth and connection are not exactly her long suits, but she achieved that desire with Kaine. He was, and is, a cypher in socks.

by Anonymousreply 20September 29, 2020 5:11 PM

She picked Kaine because Virginia was not yet a blue state.

by Anonymousreply 21September 29, 2020 5:16 PM

He makes my skin crawl.

by Anonymousreply 22September 29, 2020 8:49 PM

r21 Virginia was blue enough by 2016. She beat Trump by 5% (nearly 200k votes). VA was not of concern to Hillary and Kaine wasn't offered shit after that abysmal VP performance. I'm not even sure she let him stump for her after that mess.

Had she know today what she knew back then she could have plucked an unknown Beto out from oblivion in TX (a state they want to win) and he would have been a massive boon for her team. Hillary's folks were so risk-averse, with the exception of the email issues (they had to have known it would be a thing) that they didn't even try to be bold.

Imagine a Hillary/Beto ticket. He could appeal to the young, hungry for change, while she acts as the wise old stateswoman.

by Anonymousreply 23September 29, 2020 8:57 PM
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