Can some explain the difference between a Frau and a Karen?

Fraus don't go postal. They'll goad others to, though.

I agree with R1.

Fraus are usually harmless. They just annoy people.

Karens are actually hateful and mean, and they will often use their Karen powers to try to get you arrested or beaten up.

A Frau constantly yells at her friends and family. A Karen yells at strangers.

They are cousins but a Frau is more benign and just has more old fashioned and self centered views than us. A Karen is just a harpy, a vicious Alice Kravitz on steroids and on YouTube being excessively self center, possibly racist and particularly aggressive. Usually in the tone of I am right, you are wrong and I want what I want because it is my right. Just my quick take.

Sigh...remember when Karen was happy just to complain to a manager here and there?

The all-new, 2020 Raging Bitchcunt from Hell should have been given a different name.

Fraus have the Live, Laugh, Love sign in the kitchen; Karens have the ones with wine jokes.

"Karen" is a misogynist, racist label of contempt for an assertive white middle-class woman. q.v. Trump's "Nasty woman" label for Hillary Clinton.

Pretty much all women are fraus, but Karens are next-level cunts.

A Karen will say in public what a Frau thinks in private

Fraus bake apple strudel.

Karens stuff themselves with Little Debbie's.

A Karen will ask to speak to the manager, a Frau will leave without complaining, find out the manager's name and start a hate campaign via facebook.

Bravo, r5.

I think you just did that.

And, I approve.

Karens are nasty bitches who take delight in being abusive to sales clerks who are only trying to do their jobs.

Fraus shop at Michaels and demand price checks on every item they buy; Karens shoplift at Michaels and demand to speak to the manager when they are caught red-handed.

A Frau is the symbol of mundane mediocrity. A Karen is the symbol of violent psychosis.

Four inches of elastic in their breezy pants and/or leggings.

You made me laugh R16.

Don’t they both have bad hair?

R7 this isn’t about Democratic woman. They are in the trenches with us!

Fraus and Karens are of all political persuasions. I've known many Karens and Fraus who were Democrats.

I haven’t.

All Karens are fraus, but not all fraus are Karens.

Well they do exist r21. They're all over the Northeast. One of the worst Karens I've ever known was a Berniebro.

When women over-step the rigid boundaries society sets for them, they are ALWAYS punished. In biblical times they were stoned to death, in the Middle Ages they were accused of witchcraft and burned at the stake. In 2020, the are labeled Karens, ridiculed and doxed.

The archetypes for both are depicted in BIG BUSINESS (1988).

Democratic Women - mostly good 😇

Republican Women - mostly Evil 👿

Please r24. Go on Youtube and watch the many Karen videos. These women are just cunts. Period.

r26 it's not nearly as black and white as that.

I have a cousin who's a lifelong Democrat and she's one of the biggest cunts you could ever meet.

Meghan Markle is a Karen.

Fraus want to speak to the manager. Karen's want to speak to the manager, record it on their phone, Twitter and Facebook it then claim one of the following when it backfires. Anxiety, Death threats by non whites, PTSD or fibroids. All while passive aggressively taking on board the comments that have prompted self reflection. With prayer emojis and 'much luv my peeps' added for authenticity

Frau - Phyllis from "The Office"

Karen - Elaine from "Seinfeld"

Celebrity Fraus - Kathie Lee Gifford, Ree Drummond, Ina Garten

Celebrity Karens - Kelly Ripa, Jennifer Aniston, Ramona Singer, Lena Dunham, Rose McG

R7, I know someone who is a Karen. Loves to make scenes in public, thinks if she screams enough she will always get her way. She’s so frightening, managers will let her win just to get her out of the store. She fights people (verbally, thank god) every time she’s told no. A lot of these fights are just unnecessary drama about stuff that doesn’t matter. She’s embarrassed her kids, who just want her to stop. Embarrassed kids are one sign that somebody is being a Karen. They thrive on making scenes.

There is assertive, and there is aggressive. If you have to throw a hysterical screaming tantrum to get people to listen to you, you don’t know how to be assertive. You can be both calm and assertive.

Fraus buy Yankee Candles

Karens buy LED votives

Fraus sometimes don’t know they are. Karens always do.

Elaine was way too fun to be a Karen. She was just neurotic.

is terrified of both of them, so I'm sure it's confusing.

Kate Gosselin is the OG Karen.

Simply Sara is a big Frau.

seems to be terrified of white people in general.

I'd like to speak to Muriel about having this thread scrubbed.

Haley, Becky, Karen and Susan: A Chart -

Guys: don't lump all us Susans together!!

This is a Karen.....

And this is a Susan.....

I need to speak with the district manager!

^^ That's Ultra Karen, Summoner Of District Managers

A frau likes potlucks and bedazzling and is always on a diet.

A Karen is a dark hearted person that uses police and systems against "those people" to justify her pathetic existence.

There is another type of woman - a Mary Richards type woman who is scared to death of suddenly growing old and becoming an unhip Frau. She might have frau friends but goes our of her way NOT to be one .... There is something about a Mary Richards type woman that Karen’s HATE! They perceive “Mary’s” needs to not draw attention to herself as weakness - Karen’s think Mary,s are snobs and it enrages them - Karen’s like to intimidate Mary’s - it usually works.

An explanation of "Karen" and where the term originates and what it's come to mean:

Fraus scrapbook, but Karens do not.

Ah, R50, so if you call someone the "n" word you are not being racist, you are calling out their behavior? Got it.

This is a real book btw.

Proof

R52... huh?

Fraus work in pods. Karens hunt and stalk solo.

I still don't know the difference. Both are mysterious.

Karens do anal.

Fraus cradle mugs. Karens throw them.

Frau or Karen?

R49, I’m the Mary and you’re the Rhoda!

Wait until straight white women discover what "Mary" really means...

A frau works at the DMV and deliberately takes her good old time, forcing you to hear her life story and what her kids and grandkids are up to these days, despite the fact that there is a line out the door. A Karen is in that line yapping away on her cell phone at the top of her lungs, driving everyone nuts, while she's trying to get registration tags for her Cadillac Escalade.

So is this a Karen? If not, what on earth is it?

A Frau is like pre-Karen or Karenesque, if you will.

Fraus like Julia Roberts, Dancing With the Stars, and David Muir.

Karen’s are a subset of white fraus that like to argue in public, hate minorities, struggle with their weight, and feel persecuted.

Fraus are frumpy cat ladies. Karens are bossy white women with severe haircuts who love authority.

Good, I feel edjumacated. Now, what is the difference between a Chad and a Kyle?

Does Chad like bbqs and woodworking? But Kyle likes beating his wife?

I'm confused.

R7 Get over yourself. Too many people have had to suffer under Karens. Y'all are finally getting called out.

So what is that at R64 ?

That’s simply a fat pig

Karen’s were really busted with social media and cellphones. They got away with all of that until BLM and Covid. That pushed all their rants into the open.

Fraus are harmless: cats, mugs, puzzles, crafts, babies, and soap operas give them life.

That’s like trying to explain the difference between a bitch and a cunt.

Karen

A Frau is indeed harmless. She's a suburban woman with very banal, mainstream tastes like the Hallmark Channel and Dancing With the Stars. She collects things like Precious Moments figurines and sweaters with pictures of cats on them. She's not a bad person, she's just very ignorant about anything that's outside of her own little world.

A Karen is a nuclear bitch. She lives to police the behavior of others in public, and it's behavior that is innocuous and not bothersome to anybody except a Karen. She also loves to berate service workers like retail clerks and waitstaff who are only trying to do their jobs. She often threatens to call the police for things that are in no way illegal, they're just things she doesn't approve of. She's a miserable, screeching cunt and everybody hates her.

A Frau cat calls , a Karen rapes.

they all love david muir.

think he is just waiting for the right girl.

Frau is a broader category, of which Karen is a subset, IMO.

Nearly all Karens are fraus, but not all fraus are Karens.

r53 that book is the Karenest book to ever Karen

David Muir is GAY.

Emma Stone - Queen of the Fraus

Laura Ingraham - Queen of the Karens

dtm is super gay, look at his insta.

Yes, we DLers all know David Muir is gay.

But the fraus don't have a clue.

R83

the twitter ladies obsessively have no clue dave is gay.

he projects he is straight, so he is part of his whole problem.

DTM is flaming gay on his instagram.

R72 they also enjoy margarita nights at Chilis with the girls or if they’re younger fraus, their squad.

Why can't David Muir just come out? There are many gay male news personalities now, and it's no big deal.

Thank you everyone for the explanation of the differences between these annoying cows.

R87

Agree it’s no big deal.

If anything David is making it a bigger deal staying in his glass closet.

He isn’t Brad Pitt, I’m sure no one cares DTM is gay.

Karen's are spiteful middle aged white women that throw coffees at younger more attractive women at Starbucks.

Karens aren't necessarily white. The idiots that bitch about cultural appropriation could also be called Karens.

They're more likely to be called Ka'reNiqua.

No, they're white. That isn't to say that other races of women can't be awful and unpleasant. But, Karens are white.

Fraus are usually protestant Christians, Karens can be any religion.

I have to imagine a lot of the racists on DL are the leos paid to surveil this site. Give it a rest, guys. We know you are the Master Race.

Master of what, nobody knows.

A frau will smile to your face, make nice, always preach "BE KIND TO OTHERS and JESUS!" then proceed to start a nasty rumor with her fellow fraus about you and destroy your life, while never losing that "Who me? I would never do that!" Stepford wife bullshit.

A Karen will just start a nasty rumor about you then scream in your face "YEAH, I DID start that rumor!!!! Wanna make something of it?". then call the cops on you saying she feels threatened.

Frau are individuals ugly on the outside. Karen are individuals ugly on the inside. But if a person is ugly on both inside and outside. She can be refer as both Karen/frau.

Frau will wear a mask, Karen will call you a pussy for wearing one. Science isn’t her strong suit.

People will show up at a frau's funeral with flowers. They'll show up at a Karen's funeral just to make sure that the bitch is dead.

R99 - I want to sit next you at a dinner party.

R100 As long as you're not a Karen, you're safe!