What can you guys tell me about Manhattan Beach, California

It's the asshole of LA. Literally

I visited it a few times. I liked it. Lots of hot volleyball players

It's in the South Bay region of L.A., the most remote region. Has an Orange County feel vs. an L.A. feel.

Well, I saw this darling little hat there back in the 80s. Philip Treacy. Can you imagine? In Manhattan Beach!

Obvioiusly, they'd been asking for the moon in exchange. But who the hell in Manhattan Beach is going to that.

But when I saw it, it was all hands on deck, this shop is sinking!

It was a steal.

Anyway, it was this dreadful beige, but I found a place that could dye hats. So they did this special "ermine dip" and it came out divine.

I used to wear it on Dynasty nights at the bar.

I had a friend who built on a home on The Strand. A little place on waterfront for 10M. It's beautiful down there and a beach town but full of entitled types. They dont call it the orange curtain for nothing.

What R5 said. But it is beautiful. I like Redondo Beach better, a bit further south, a mixture of blue collar and white collar. Nice esplanade. All the southbay communities are nice, imo, but I wanted to buy in R.B, and I still would. Great air quality, always less bad than surrounding areas during smoke, for example. Nice restaurants.

Great place to raise the kiddies!

R3, I live right where it says “car dealerships and bland restaurants” and IT’S TRUE!

I live a few miles down the coast from Manhattan Beach, OP.

Before I moved here, I was living in Manhattan and thought that moving to Manhattan Beach would be a beautiful segue.

Now, knowing what I do, I am incredibly thankful that I did NOT move to MB.

Here are some observations after having spent much time now (w/friends living in MB)

• There are a variety of sections that MB has been divided into (the “beach section”, the “tree section” the “hill section” and several others). Each has their own vibe.

• The overall general vibe of MB (if you had to conglomerate it into one), is of entitlement. It is a wealthy area with a great deal of Nouveau Riche flavouring. There is some diversity: althletes, celebs (outside of Malibu) and those who have made it big in the corporate world. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be as much cultural or racial diversity; despite the various “sections” of the city.

• Speaking of which, there is a current controversy involving a park near the beach which was designated as a “black beach”: for those of differing skin colours. Won’t go into all the details, but it is not going over very well in the current milieu.

• Several of my friends own quite nice properties there, but only one of them has an enjoyable yard. LAX is close by and the planes make outdoor conversation difficult...and sometimes impossible. (Although this is different in the Covid era.) Note that El Segundo also has this issue.

• Many of the properties (even large square footage ones), are “tight”. This is especially true for those closer to the sea. For this reason, houses have 3 or more floors and can be quite narrow. This also involves side windows peering into other neighbors. So if you fancy a bit of privacy, this may not be ideal.

• Manhattan Beach has a more upmarket feel than its neighboring sister, Hermosa Beach. HB is more grunge. Think of HB as a milder/mini version of Venice Beach.

• MB does have decent beaches, small hills, a section of homes with trees and a paved sidewalk on the beach for walking/biking/etc. like Santa Monica. It’s Northern end abuts gas and chemical processing plants located in El Segundo. And of course, is closer in proximity to LAX.

• More likely to find soccer Mothers in yoga pants out and about in MB than any of the other cities in LA’s South Bay. One local once referred to it as “LA County’s version of Newport Beach” (Newport which is located in Orange County - or “Orange Curtain”: the more conservative area of SoCal that another poster referred to above.)

Take this for what you will: your mileage may vary.

[quote] What [R5] said. But it is beautiful. I like Redondo Beach better, a bit further south, a mixture of blue collar and white collar. Nice esplanade. All the southbay communities are nice, imo, but I wanted to buy in R.B, and I still would. Great air quality, always less bad than surrounding areas during smoke, for example. Nice restaurants.

Agree, R6.

Redondo is not as sterile as Manhattan.

These places are utterly devoid of culture.

R11 You don't need culture when you have the Pacific ocean. LOL. I was one of those people who bought in to the whole cliche LA bullshit. I really did think people who were they said they were. And all the fabulousness. I got burned. And thats ok. I moved back to the midwest and found my people. And there are jack asses everywhere. But they seem to migrate particular in SoCal.

R1 I knew an asshole from Manhattan Beach.

A relative lived in Redondo Beach and I visited a few times. Yes, lots of strip malls and young moms with their children. What I did notice, surprisingly, was that people were friendly and pleasant there. Not sure if it was because I was on vacation each time. But it was a pleasant surprise. (Not friendly to a crazy degree.)

[quote] [R11] You don't need culture when you have the Pacific ocean.

While typing this looking at the Pacific (with a bit of marine layer at the moment), I feel incredibly comforted ATM. With all the global turmoil, being sea-adjacent gives me incredible peace of mind. I am a lover of the ocean, and in the USA, proximity to the sea is not a given (say as compared to Oz or NZ).

Am exceedingly appreciative.

And while I appreciated culture in NYC, I ultimately became increasingly overwhelmed with the frenetic pace of life in Manhattan, R11. So Nature ultimately won out over the Lincoln Center and late nights in the city.

Covid and climate change may be reshaping what we know of as “culture” (and the environment as well).

We live in interesting times.

I think LA - even Manhattan Beach - is a much better place to be in times of Covid than Manhattan. Just came back and want to move there.

Manhattan Beach has become a city for LA's nouveau riche and VERY white. Lots of fitness types, "beautiful people" and entitled assholes.

very white, very boring. The type of people that actually enjoy eating at places like "Sloppy Tuna" and Cheesecake Factory. Ugh. Next.

I find most of the beach cities in South Bay, especially down towards Palos Verdes, to be full of Republicans. If you have the money the best place to buy a home is on the north side of the airport in Westchester. The neighborhoods are less congested, diverse and more liberal leaning. A lot of the tech people who work in Playa Vista are buying homes here. Still close enough to the beach and 20 minutes from the newly built SoFi stadium.

Is it like New York?

It's a pleasant place to visit. Friendly service people. You can rent a bike and ride along the beach down to Redondo Beach or up toward Santa Monica. There's a pier and a little aquarium at the end. Go in the summer and you'll find an uncountable number of hot shirtless guys.

I lived in Redondo for years in early 2000s, what I liked best is in the south end everything was walkable. Restaurants, Trader Joe’s, big supermarkets, coffee shops and other stores. The beach was very close and some of the old architecture was around, unlike Manhattan Beach that had homogenized architecture and was very hard to park. And as someone mentioned very friendly and welcoming.

[quote] I find most of the beach cities in South Bay, especially down towards Palos Verdes, to be full of Republicans

There are Republicans everywhere, R19. And many Americans with wealth can tend to be of that political persuasion.

As a non-Republican and Palos Verdes resident, the majority of my fellow community citizens and neighbors self-identify also as non-Republicans.

Much of Palos Verdes is Land Conservancy property. Many Palos Verdes residents are environmentalists and are HORRIFIED at the GOP.

Hermosa Beach (and Venice, for that matter) as "grunge," R9? Which decade are you talking about? The South Bay is overwhelmingly straight and populated mostly by former USC fraternity/sorority members or those who aspire to join (or have their children join) their ranks, though I guess there are probably fewer Trump/Pence signs in Hermosa compared to Manhattan Beach. If you have to commute beyond the beach bubble your options are the 405 and Sepulveda Blvd, so good luck with that.

[quote] Hermosa Beach (and Venice, for that matter) as "grunge," [R9]? Which decade are you talking about?

This decade, R24. A few weeks ago when driving through Hermosa and seeing someone getting a tattoo on the sidewalk from the tattoo parlour and then further down (near 5th street)seeing a guy with the orange mohawk riding his bike, was happy to see Hermosa hasn’t completely transformed in the last 6 months.

Less likely to see that scenario in Manhattan Beach.

It is rather grunge.....alternative....whatever in COMPARISON to its neighboring sister city.

Is it like Manhattan, Kansas?

All I know is it's not far from Huntingdon Beach, which is apparently a hot spot for anti-maskers.

[quote] I lived in Redondo for years in early 2000s, what I liked best is in the south end everything was walkable.

R22, are you saying that you don't need a car? If that's what you're saying, I'd disagree. Yes, you could probably walk to your corner restaurant and 711 and maybe Vons, if it were close by. However, in general, I think you need a car in Redondo Beach. Things are really spread out there and, IMO, not "walkable" in general.

R9 i don't get the LAX noise complaint. You are not in any flight path and miles enough away to be even remotely bothered by takeoff thrust noise. I m calling BS on this one. El Segundo , maybe has some issues..

[quote] The South Bay is overwhelmingly straight and populated mostly by former USC fraternity/sorority members or those who aspire to join (or have their children join) their ranks

I've noticed that too. A bunch of rich, entitled white people.

R 28 What I’m saying is once I got home and parked in my apartment building I didn’t usually drive unless I was going to the other end of the town to the library. It was like living in Park Slope, I would just pickup what little food I needed each day or run errands like the post office or shoe repair right there. The only thing that wasn’t there at the time was a gym, which I needed to go to Torrance for and then I’d hit big box stares as needed.

Riviera Place Shopping Plaza, not to pretty, but had just about everything you need and very convenient.

Doc Sportello country!!

r9, is talking about Bruce's Beach which was seized in the 1920s.

Manhattan Beach is a lot of fun. There is a lot of reconstruction that took place in Manhattan Village and still more happening. Rich people live there. I saw a biden/harris lawn sign and no Trump ones. But LA County is not a big lawn sign place for presidential races in my experience. You vote for Trump you keep it to yourself.

[quote]All I know is it's not far from Huntingdon Beach, which is apparently a hot spot for anti-maskers.

It's nowhere near Huntington Beach, which is in Orange County, well down the coast.

25 LOL at the thought of Hermosa Beach being "grunge". My mom has lived there for 30 years. Bought a small ranch house for a couple hundred thousand, now worth 2.5 million. The house is a tear down - it's the land. 1/4 of a mile from the beach.

I looked into buying something there a few years ago. I found smallish 1 bedroom condos in the $500 - 700 K range. Don't really know many grungy folks spending that much on a small place - do you?

Manhattan Beach is even more expensive.

The beaches are beautiful and free of garbage and loud music. The reason? Hermosa/Manhattan cities have not opened any beach parking lots. You have to pay $20 for a day's parking available in a few lots.

Straights love it - great public schools, beach lifestyle and easy commute to downtown LA or USC for work.

R34 You're right, my apologies. I thought it was 20 minutes away but memory was failing me, I forgot it was farther south of Long Beach.

The Pacific is a boring ocean and colder than you'd expect.

A boring OCEAN? Good one! Balboa found it quite pacifying.

Which are the exciting oceans?

[quote]Which are the exciting oceans?

Frank

Billy

Danny

R37 what you’re actually saying is that the beach at Manhattan Beach is rather dull and that the water is somewhat cold.

You do realise that the Pacific Ocean is quite large and doesn’t just constitute the section that is offshore of LA, don’t you?

Of course you don’t, you clueless parochial fool.

I live in the South Bay. Manhattan Beach and El Segundo are the white, entitled, bourgeois neighborhoods of this area. The properties and people are boring. If you want a pretty beach go to Redondo, Torrance Beach, Palos Verdes or even Cabrillo Beach in Pedro. Hermosa is a fun place for straights but is also pretty white.

Hey, R40, no need to be nasty.

Looking out over water bores some people.

Don't yell at me for asking this, but I thought El Segundo was the ghetto or something. And that is totally based on Sanford and Son reruns. Fred always makes an El Segundo joke in almost every episode.

El Segundo, Where the Sewers Meet the Sea!

I believe LAX is located in El Segundo.

r45 No, LAX is north of El Segundo. It's within the LA city limits.

[quote] El Segundo, Where the Sewers Meet the Sea!

That is where the Hyperion Water Treatment Plant is, no?

Laguna is where you want to be if you want to live there.

Currently there is no beach community in Southern California that has single family homes that are under 1 million dollars and if by a miracle you do find something under a million,, you are buying a shack in the worst part of that particular neighborhood. Property values in LA are out of control.

I lived in the South Bay for 10 years and loved it. I couldn't afford Manhattan Beach or Hermosa Beach so I slummed it in Torrance and San Pedro. I told people that the closest you could ever get to the LA Beach you see on Baywatch and 90210 was the South Bay.

R33- I notice that when I moved to the Valley. Political signs are a rare sight here. I’ve seen a few bumper stickers, mostly Bernie and Trump bros.

Grew up there. I almost never go back, but I was there for outside dinner with Mom recently and we were the only people at the restaurant with masks on.

The Huntington Beach comparisons are close enough, but MBers would be mortified by that since they look down their heavily-mortgaged noses at rental cities like Huntington and Hermosa.

Mostly white and repressed, MB people are not educated, and life there was then, and is now, still sequestered and sheltered. You'd never know how close MB is to LAX for how little its people know about the rest of the state, let alone the world, but they all go on identical trips to Mammoth (skiing) and Maui, with little exception.

Speaking a foreign language there will get you looks, and having lots of books in your home will have a lot of people asking if you've read them all.

The water offshore in Santa Monica Bay is usually too cold or too polluted to swim in. There is a huge Chevron refinery in El Segundo just to the north of MB that lights up the sky at night and sheds globs of tar into the water constantly. My memories of the ocean as a child are punctuated by the vapors of the gasoline we had to keep handy to remove thick black patches from our feet at the end of the days in the water. People here spend millions to live in sight of an ocean they refuse to put more than a toe into, only to have it covered in petroleum.

If you live anywhere near the ocean on either side of Highland (a long-time dividing line for 'us' and 'them' in the walk-streets of original MB) you have absolutely no parking except your garage and no one from outside MB can come see you unless they take an Uber, that development being very recent. MBers are still very socially inbred and tend not to leave much.

The women are hard, leathery white-wine alcoholics by the age of 45. The men were once beautiful, much more than the women, but have guts and massive home equity loans as grown-ups. Most wealth there is riding only on real estate values and not salary, so there's a lot of flipping and spec house scamming. The home prices are psychotic, probably LA's most overvalued real estate per square foot. Everyone has built out to the edges of their lots in some of the most desirable parts of MB.

Teens in my day there were perverts, not usually in fun ways. There were credible rumors of a community-college dropout/neighborhood drug dealer driving around with Hefty-bag wrapped dead body in the small trunk of his convertible Rabbit. We had sex. I was underage. I never found out about the body. Traci Lords's sister went to my high school, but was lying about her address to be able to attend. She wasn't treated well. Everyone knew.

Graduating high schoolers this year co-opted BLM slogans to throw themselves a maskless graduation ceremony (pretending to be a BLM march) on the beach after being told not to by the school. They had the support of their class president's parents and a faculty advisor... totally unsurprising to anyone from there, but pretty fucking cynical for 17-year olds hoping to go to USC.

All that said, I had some wonderful teachers there and made life-long friends, none of whom, however, stuck around or ever go back for more than a dinner or a maybe a holiday weekend.

It's very provincial, may as well be Orange County. Lots and lots and lots of straight people with lots and lots and lots of kids. Too many USC alumni.

If you live there, it will likely take an hour or more to get to Hollywood. Just getting to a freeway exit could take up to thirty minutes with a long red light every half block keeping you there long against your will.

Midwesterners and East coast people move there initially so they can tell their friends at home how close they live to the beach. But the overcast June gloom is the ultimate bait-n-switch and you will be laying on a cloudy beach while the rest of LA is baking in the sun.

What an interesting discussion as I've lived and worked and played around most of these areas. Southern California has a 'sordid/romantic' quality that is partly the climate (incredible warm nights with cool ocean breezes), partly the mix of everyone from around the U.S., and partly the history. Jazz clubs where the greats played, all kinds of movie locations, famous sites associated with celebrities, etc. It's a big stew of good and bad attitudes and people. I don't know exactly how it is now, but I miss what it was for me.

[quote] I live in the South Bay. Manhattan Beach and El Segundo are the white, entitled, bourgeois neighborhoods of this area. The properties and people are boring. If you want a pretty beach go to Redondo, Torrance Beach, Palos Verdes or even Cabrillo Beach in Pedro. Hermosa is a fun place for straights but is also pretty white

Second this.

Redondo has a bit of flavor. And as other posters have noted, a friendly, chill atmosphere.

RAT (Right At Torrance) Beach is kind of quirky. Who knew Torrance had a beach!

“The Hill” as Palos Verdes identifies itself, is gorgeous. Some of other most scenic coastline in LA County. It’s beaches are mostly rocky.

And agree about San Pedro’s Cabrillo Beach. Cabrillo is VERY diverse......

One thing even locals aren’t aware of is the connection to this area with cetaceans (dolphins and whales). The headquarters for the world’s oldest whale conservation society is on the PV peninsula. There is a whale museum as well.

And we can see up to (almost) half of the world’s species of cetaceans (38-40) in this region as they pass between Channel Islands (Catalina Island & Santa Barbara Island) and the coast. The PV peninsula, Monterey and Dana Point are the best places to observe cetaceans along the CA coast. Have even spotted Blue Whales (world’s largest creature) from shore here. (Most places that have populations of Blues -such as Sri Lanka or Western Australia - one must go further out to sea to spot them.)

Also, this area is one of the few places in the world that hosts Gray whales. (Could go on with other whales, but don’t wish to bore anyone further with my passion of cetaceans.)

Most folks are unaware of LA’s coastal hidden whale treasures.....

[quote] If you live there, it will likely take an hour or more to get to Hollywood. Just getting to a freeway exit could take up to thirty minutes with a long red light every half block keeping you there long against your will.

Yeah. The South Bay is rather removed from the rest of L.A. It’s a bit of an effort to navigate to the more “happening” spots. As another poster mentioned, Weschester is an option to be “closer to the action”. Interestingly, several years ago, I stayed with a friend who lived in Westchester for 3 months. (I personally did not resonate with the area: missed the immediate proximity of the sea.)

Which raises another point....

[quote] But the overcast June gloom is the ultimate bait-n-switch and you will be laying on a cloudy beach while the rest of LA is baking in the sun.

....the Marine Layer. Used to get so frustrated at the cool fog that resulted in “May Grey” and “June Gloom”; but nowadays I am actually appreciating the marine layer. While the rest of CA (and the country) is hot or humid, the marine layer keeps things temperate. Many of us here don’t have AC and the temperate nature with sea breezes means few - if any mosquitoes- so windows and doors are all open all over. True indoor-outdoor living.

With climate change and increasing temps, am ever thankful for the marine layer.

El Segundo was notorious for being filled with engineers and science nerds who worked at the defense and aerospace industries and the petrochemical industry that surround LAX. Friends who lived there joked about the large percentage of Aspies and people on the spectrum that inhabited the community. Just lunching there on occasion I did see that about a large percentage of the men.

What everyone else says. It's very white, it's very family, very SoCal wine-o-clock fraus in their 40's. There are so many better places to live in LA and SoCal than MB. I prefer Redondo or PV. If you are living down there it's for the beach lifestyle. I'm not a Long Beach advocate for myself, but for others who want a more mixed, beachy, blue collar experience with multiple gay bars, live in Long Beach. I think there might be one gay bar in the south bay - the dolphin? I've heard about it in N Redondo.

[quote] El Segundo was notorious for being filled with engineers and science nerds who worked at the defense and aerospace industries and the petrochemical industry that surround LAX. Friends who lived there joked about the large percentage of Aspies and people on the spectrum that inhabited the community. Just lunching there on occasion I did see that about a large percentage of the men.

Interesting point, R57.

I’m very tuned into what I call the psychological topography of places and spaces. And every time I go through El Segundo, I get the creeps. Most notably around Hyperion and Infineon.

Don’t wish to derail this thread. However, a few years ago (before conspiracy theories became more mainstream), I read about some nefarious experimentation occurring at these places.

Have always wondered?

R52 is a great post, like reading a novel

I lived near the beach in Hermosa for awhile and it gets hot and humid in the summertime like everywhere else in LA. No AC is not cool that time of year.

R43 I used to live in LA, and never went to El Segundo but also always assumed it was ghetto.

Unless you work in the area, you will have a shitty commute and it gets boring living there unless you're into surfing.

Who are these idiots saying MB or South Bay is behind the orange curtain? Orange County is nowhere near South Bay. Palos Verdes and Long Beach are south of South Bay and still in LA County.

Manhattan Beach is so meh. Redondo is a lot more fun. But be forewarned, if you move to either (or Hermosa), you might as well be in NYC if you plan on socializing with anyone in LA proper. It's too hard to get to.

[quote] I lived near the beach in Hermosa for awhile and it gets hot and humid in the summertime like everywhere else in LA.

LA doesn't get humid in summer, especially not compared to the south, Texas, or even east coast summers.

Come on out for a visit. Bring the kids!

Manhattan Beach is where my dishes were made, back in the '70s and '80s. Metlox poisoned the ground on which they made said dishes and went out of business in the late '80s. Now it's Metlox Plaza, an outdoors shopportunity.

If you are progressive, please move to Orange County, CA. LA is too hot and too expensive. You need a car here anyways. Hopefully, you can get a hybrid.

To those who mentioned El Segundo as ghetto, I’m not sure if you are saying lower class or if you are implying that it’s urban and African American. Because at least at the time I knew it, the early 2000s, it was one of the whitest enclaves and considered quite racist. My fiend who lived there was biracial and was someone who in a million years one would never of guessed had a black father. She observed practically Klan level overt behavior from people there, which made her very uncomfortable. But I have to say one of my favorite of her stories was getting pulled over for being white while driving in Compton, she was quite outraged that she can’t win either way.

It's funny - I was looking at places in the South Bay just a couple of months ago. Manhattan Beach is definitely very pretty and expensive. But like others have commented, the entitlement and snootiness was palpable. I didn't want to say that as my time there has been limited, but it seems my first impressions were spot on according to the confirmations above.

As you ate or walked past outdoor restaurants and cafes, the tone of conversations were a huge turnoff. Lots of entitled young people and children of wealthy parents. I liked the beach and the shopping areas, but the people were just not friendly and thought way too much of themselves. Like a city of white entitled former 'cool kids' - except they just buy expensive stuff and aren't really that cool. Daniel Tosh lives there and he fits the type.

I thought Hermosa Beach and Redondo Beach had much better vibes - but still not enough for me to live there.

Palos Verdes is, for someone who had never been there, one of the biggest metropolitan surprises I've ever seen. All of a sudden, in dense LA County, you're on a hilly peninsula with lots of trees, East Coast-style homes, and horse stables and riding centers all over. There aren't just a couple - there are many horse stables and children in riding uniforms. It's bizarre - you feel like you've entered another suburban world that you would only see 40-50 miles outside of Manhattan.

Then you drive down the hill and BAM, back into LA County denseness and commercial activity. I've never seen anything like it - not that I'd want to live there. But talk about being in a remote and foreign world in the middle of LA County. For me, it was so unexpected.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the earthquake risk here -- the Palos Verdes Fault and the Newport-Inglewood Fault are both active and pose real dangers.

[quote] I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the earthquake risk here -- the Palos Verdes Fault and the Newport-Inglewood Fault are both active and pose real dangers...

So does the Santa Monica fault, and the San Andreas fault, and the Compton fault and......

.....welcome to California.

R72, The San Andreas fault doesn’t run through the South Bay and hasn’t been responsible for an earthquake in southern CA. There is no “Compton fault,” that’s the Newport Inglewood fault that runs through Compton. The SM fault doesn’t run through the South Bay, either...

There are places on the PV peninsula where there is literal ground movement everyday and the road is in flux and needs daily monitoring and repair. Because Of this there are these ever changing hills and valleys in the road and especially with the at time heavy fog it is very dangerous to be zooming around and hit these them. Joan Didion first lived there when they moved to L.A. and there’s a story where she had to get out in front of the car and walk in front because the fog was so thick and they were afraid of hitting something they couldn’t see.

There are also gas lines that need to be above ground in flexible pipelines because of the shifting nature of the ground. There had been underground nuclear missiles located there, but because of the unstable landscape they had to be removed. You can still visit the empty underground silos. Because of these constant issues land conservancies were able to be setup and a moratorium was placed on much of the development in the area. I do remember Trump somehow getting a variance to build one of his horrific golf course there despite those issues, hopefully it will just drop into the ocean at some point.

R65 :I've lived in LA for 24 years and it was humid last week, like every summer. You probably don't know what humidity is.

R94 you really think you're educating anyone about where Orange County is? It's figurative.

Since r94 has yet to post, r76, I'll ask: "figurative" Orange County?

I didn't experience El Segundo as 'creepy,' but at the library I learned it was an entirely Japanese town up to the 30s and they were deported and lost all their properties in 1942. You can see the photos. THAT kind of ruined it for me.

Other than that, though, it used to have a leafy main street that was idyllic, a terrific Austrian-chef restaurant called Hannes, and at Christmas seemed like something out of a Hallmark Special. On the north end of town, too much airport noise and effluvia from the sewage plant, on the south end, Chevron's toxic chemical and moral stink. So, very mixed, I guess.

[quote] [R72], The San Andreas fault doesn’t run through the South Bay and hasn’t been responsible for an earthquake in southern CA. There is no “Compton fault,” that’s the Newport Inglewood fault that runs through Compton. The SM fault doesn’t run through the South Bay, either

Never said the San Andreas ran through the South Bay, R73.

But the point is, California has multiple fault lines. Not just the Newport-Inglewood or PV ones you describe.

And yes there is always a “risk” of an earthquake in California just as there’s always a risk of Hurricanes in Florida/Texas/Louisiana/East Coast and Tornadoes in the USA’s alley.

Unfortunately, scientists don’t have predictive abilities for “the Big One” yet in California. But given that the last 500 years have seen only smaller tremors in the faults you mention; whilst hurricanes and fires currently are underway seems a bit.....like concern displaced.

My take.

[quote] [R65] :I've lived in LA for 24 years and it was humid last week, like every summer. You probably don't know what humidity is.

R75, I would agree with R65. I’ve lived in many places in the world and coastal LA County is the LEAST humid place I’ve ever lived. It’s farcical to say it’s “humid every summer”. Hahahaha.

Yes, it was a bit humid for a DAY or two around Labor Day, but it was NOTHING compared to the rest of the world. And that is an exception rather than the norm.

Perhaps living in Hermosa for 24 YEARS has done something to you? (Or your perspective on “humidity” is a bit skewed? Try visiting Atlanta in early August? Better yet, Darwin in February. They show you some summer humidity!)

Hot tan fit daddies everywhere!!!

The boys are soooooo hot!

Let's not forget this prominent occupant of the Palos Verdes Peninsula.

Famed poet and writer Charles Bukowski of "Barfly" fame lived in San Pedro and is buried in RPV. His grave reads "Don't Try." The spots of tar you get sometimes when swimming are naturally occurring from the ocean bed. They don't come from the refinery. If you ever lived in the South Bay you love Quentin Tarantino's "Jackie Brown" since it was shot and takes place there. Nearby Carson, Lomita and San Pedro offset the whiteness of MB. Shirley Jones lives in PV. One of the best gay cruising nude beaches used to be in PV.

L.A. is simply not as humid as somewhere like Washington, D.C., and Tokyo.

This isn't a thread comparing humidity levels of Manhattan Beach to the East coast or the South.

If you want to live in your "cool" coastal community without air conditioning - YOU DO YOU BOO!

How’s Corona doing in MB?

Are there a lot of unnecessary deaths and lives tragically cut short as in much of the rest of the country due to the intentional malicious actions of the White House?

R80 lower your dosage and ease up on the question marks

R80, yeah -- I've lived in LA my entire life. Didn't know what real humidity was until visiting Florida in the summer. Yikes.

NO ONE CARES IF YOU'VE LIVED SOMEWHERE MORE HUMID

R90, you're the one who brought up humidity. You probably shouldn't use terms unless you know what they mean.

R91 educate us more DL Yoda

This thread reeks of guys who wear flip flops in place of shoes.

EL Segundo is so not ghetto. Not sure where that came from. It's very white and pretty expensive. I live in southbay and I won't say where. But the closer to the beach the more money it costs. I love MB and RB. Hermosa is where all the bars are and the drinking used to take place. Attracts assholes.

This one not far from beach but medium-lower price range.

Ridiculous end of MB

This one is more reasonable, not right on the strand (beach)

El Segundo has a lot of petro chemical workers that live there. It is expensive though. It smells bad and there is LAX right there (plane noise). It is not really a beach town, meaning the way it smells (bad, not nice like the beach) and the type pf people who live there. It 's hard to get to from the freeway too, so huge traffic problem if you are living there.

If you are progressive, please move to orange county. We need you. You need a car in California anyway. Plan to get a hybrid.

[quote]EL Segundo is so not ghetto. Not sure where that came from.

That was totally on me and completely based on old Sanford and Son reruns. It was one of Fred's go to punchlines. I assumed it was in the ghetto. But I guess I was wrong. Could it have been in the ghetto in the 70s?

El Stinkundo where the sewer meets the sea.

When I lived in Playa Del Rey I use to ride the bike path down to vist friends in Manhattan Beach. As a white dude I just breezed on thru their " check points". The Hispanic and black dudes never made it past the border of El Segundo. We actually would take bets to see how long it would take the MB beach patrol to turn them back. Gotta give em credit they couldn't hold a candle to the gestapo down at Huntington Beach.

R95, that's hilarious. I would expect a drug murder to take place there. Actually, it looks like the house in Tequila Sunrise.

R96, domestic violence! Or deep striver dissatisfaction.

I'm just joking around, I hope is obvious. I'd like to have a small condo facing the ocean.

Being downwind of the nuclear stank of Playa del Rey is always unpleasant.

Affluent, good schools, starting to attract Silicon Beach types who work in Playa

Does not attract many industry types who need to get to Century City or Burbank

Nice beachy vibe, definitely not a place most DLEGs would feel at home.

Once rich people move in, they ruin our beach towns. I don't get their love of cement parking structures and strip malls, but that is the locust shit they bring.

[quote]The women are hard, leathery white-wine alcoholics by the age of 45.

That about sums it up.

And as others have said full of entitle assholes. Way more than say Hollywood which is what people usually think when they describe shallow people from LA. It's like unknown Dude Bro's who got old, fat and made a little money. Obnoxious, pretensions and entitled with leathered wife and a couple turds on the side.

R105, if it wasn't for the California Coastal Commission, the entirety of California's coastline and beaches would probably be bought up and private access only.

[quote]Once rich people move in, they ruin our beach towns

Tell me about it!

Can someone explain the post upthread about there being a designated "Black Park" in MB that's causing problems.

WTF is that about? Please tell me it's not what it sounds like.

In the 1920s, the City of Manhattan Beach moved to take land from Black families under eminent domain for a park. No park was built for 30 year

In 2006, Manhattan Beach renamed that park Bruce's Beach, in honor of the Black entrepreneurs who built a resort on that land

Activists are seeking for the city and the local school district to promote racial equity and to teach the history of the site

A descendant of the Bruce family is seeking restoration of their land to the family, and restitution for 95 years of lost resort income

And they still dont want blacks there from what it sounds like. A little bit of OC in LA.

R110 Manhattan Beach is full of liberal democrats. An overwhelming majority of MB voted for Clinton in 2016.

A majority also voted in favor of legal cannabis.

Sadly, due to structural racism, many blacks and Mexican-Americans cannot afford $1-5 million for smallish homes there. That is the main reason why MB remains white.

If it's full of USC grads, it's full of Republican douche spawn also.

R112. Yes, R112 you are even older than me. I grew up in Pasadena, a feeder area for USC back in the day. University of Spoiled Children, University of Second Choice.

USC began aggressively improving their academics over 30 years ago. The student population is quite diverse now.

"The enrolled student population at University of Southern California, both undergraduate and graduate, is 31.6% White, 16.6% Asian, 14.1% Hispanic or Latino, 5.7% Black or African American, 3.39% Two or More Races, 0.252% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders, and 0.186% American Indian or Alaska Native."

Time to live in 2020, not 1980.

In fact, when I visit my mother, who has lived there 30 years, I meet far more UCLA grads there. Go Bruins!

In conclusion, living in the South Bay sucks, and you may as well live in the bedroom communities of Orange County.

USC does not have a good science rep. They are know for the BullShit degrees, like communications or PR.

And USC is mostly spoiled kids with parents buying their way in like Lori Loughlin

I prefer Hollywood Beach, NY.

Straight guys are not liberal Democrats

Manhattan Beach doesn't even share their tax dollars with other school districts, not even Hermosa or Redondo. They keep it all for their boring elitist bubble.

R52 your post was a mini masterpiece. As R60 said you should write a novel or at the very least, a full blown essay.

I've lived in California most of my life and love the dissoluteness of so much of the place, Southern Californa in particular. Say what you will about Joan Didion, she really understood this state.

Seems awfully close to the runway of LAX. Crazy that houses cost millions even there. LA prices have gotten insane. Really unaffordable for 95% of people.

R120 a California education would likely lead to comparing a Datalounge post to a masterpiece novel

What R95 doesn't show are the hordes of people literally 2 feet away from all of your outside space. Night and day. I'm wondering when the fuck they took the pics that there were no people around.

It's on the boardwalk for crying out loud.

[quote]Manhattan Beach is full of liberal democrats. An overwhelming majority of MB voted for Clinton in 2016.

But racist fucks, in the next paragraph of your own article "It was a big change from the 2012 presidential election, when local voters narrowly favored incumbent President Barack Obama by 50%-48% over Republican Mitt Romney."

So basically 50% they are douche bro Republican pot heads. That's still a lot higher than the statewide total of Democrat to Republican ratio.

R60, R120 [your post numbers rhyme mathematically]

Oh, that's nice of you to say so. MB is strange place to be from, and tries so hard to be 'normal' on purpose and fails across the board.

I'm writing something else right now, a couple things actually, in a different form and nothing at all to do with this, with where I'm from. I didn't come to DL expecting to write anything. Posts here aren't 'writing.' But everyone who wants to write wants to write about where they're from, I think. But you're right, I should do something with all of it.

[quote] What [R95] doesn't show are the hordes of people literally 2 feet away from all of your outside space. Night and day. I'm wondering when the fuck they took the pics that there were no people around. It's on the boardwalk for crying out loud.

This is true. Those beachfront MB homes are stunning -- some more tasteful than others -- but one would have to contend with cyclists, joggers, and beachgoers at all hours of the day. If you want a quiet, private drink on your patio, forget about it. I'm convinced some of those people must have an exhibitionist streak with their huge, bare windows that people can peer into..

Nobody has mentioned El Porto the most popular and best beach break surfing spot in the South Bay right on the Manhattan Beach and El Segundo border. I used to surf there all the time with my ex. Surfing itself makes you horny but when you get out of the water and are around dozens of hot surfers getting out of their wetsuits, half naked, doing the towel dance, sometimes dropping their towels for a second, coming up to you to bullshit about the conditions or your board, well then you hightail it home, start licking the salt off eachother, and bang until the gulls go silent.

R127 Nice, I think there was a scene like that in Animal Kingdom.

R127 you should have jerked off before writing this fiction

Doesn’t sound like fiction to me, R129.

But I surf too.

Whereas I doubt that you get anywhere near the water other than for your monthly post-wank bath

R130 sure you do little girl

How can you not like the South Bay when the local newspaper is called The Daily Breeze?

R127 - I surf and have a hot surf instructor who goes out with me into the lineup. El porto is good and it does make me so horny after surfing.

Hey R133 - R127 here. My favourite sticks are my 9’4” mini mal and my custom 5’6” fish. How about you?

We’re into spring here in Sydney so I’m about to ditch the steamer.

Happy surfing mate!

And fuck off R131, you sad old American queen.

Anyone like to chime in on how LA has no humidity on this consecutive hundred degree day in October?

R135 such a bottom

[quote] Anyone like to chime in on how LA has no humidity on this consecutive hundred degree day in October?

Chiming in.

Little humidity in coastal LA. It’s hot (97F) as of this evening; but it’s a dry heat from the high pressure system (stalled over Nevada/Arizona) pushing some Santa Ana winds down through the LA area (and also agitating the Bobcat and El Dorado fires :(

R138 Sure, Jan

R138 high temperature doesn't equal high humidity?. Who knew? What other oracles of wisdom are rattling around in that hollow cranium?

It wouldn't still be hot when the sun is down without humidity south bay bore.

It’s not like the Eastern US. When California gets hot the humidity goes way down. It’s been in the single digits for humidity in several inland areas of the Bay Area in the past couple of days, while the temps have been 90-100s.

No one is talking about the East coast and the fires are arson.

And no one is specifically talking about the South Bay when they reference LA.

R142, the “humidity idiot” is a clueless poster.

Thinks LA is humid and seems to have little perspective about California of the rest of the world.

And humidity idiot equates high temperatures with “humidity”.

Too obtuse to understand otherwise.

I can like my post three times too

R146 Obtuse?

R146 where do you think I'm posting from dumb shit?

Half of Datalounge is in LA and two things they know for sure:

1. It's humid AF

2. Living in the South Bay SUCKS