The autism of Nifty authors

Your other points aside, OP, "autism" has nothing to do with any of what you are referencing.

And Nifty has long been a gathering spot for pedos, scat and incest freaks plus the whole alpha/beta scene.

IIRC, there are entire categories devoted to things like "adult/youth" and "incest"

What was always amazing to me is that there were enough people who were say, into incest who also had the desire and competent enough writing skills to create a 50-part story

Yes, Nifty is smut. But you have to make the effort to wade through that smut. That smut doesn't come to your home without invitation. You put it in your own home. OP, that's on you.

And since this is Datalounge OP, our Maiden Aunts insist that if you do invite smut into your home, you do so with a handwritten invitation on scented linen stock stationery, written with a quill pen

OP, this thread is nifty.

R1 there’s obviously an audience for this stuff. I honestly find some of the sounding/scat/vomit stories hard to read. The stories about dads enslaving,besting, raping, and forcing their sons to cross dress and dance for the amusement of their ‘str8’ buddies are just sad.

Write your own, OP.

Nifty had a seminal role in developing gay internet culture

Nifty is a cesspool, OP. Stay clear of it.

Kinks are one thing but that site is an automatic no from me because it is so overrun with stories about underage boys, and that's just unacceptable.

I've had a thing for "daddies" and have enjoyed stories about that topic, but ones where all the characters are clearly 18 or older, and where there might be a seduction but no violence. I miss Tumblr, which used to have some great stories in that vein.

OP, really?! I discovered the site (Nifty) by accident several years ago and I’ve never been impressed. Firsthand and Manscape, from twenty some odd years ago, was much better. I thought they were largely obscure. I can’t imagine that they would be responsible for this shift in our (gay) culture. Just my opinion. GenX here. When I was younger (and more of a bottom) I was largely disappointed with the older tops I encountered. They all seemed skittish/passionless or unimaginative. As I got older and more confident, I sought out opportunities to be the top and applied what I would’ve wanted from a top. I’ve noticed a shift in performance from both bottoms and tops since around 2011-2012-2013. The bottoms (Both older and younger) I’ve encountered much more prepared and willing to do anything. The tops (Both older and younger)I’ve been with, much more demanding. Perhaps online hookups (Increased demand and availability of sex) /word of mouth are more responsible for this shift than what you imagine.

R8 what bothers me is the degradation of the dad/boy abuse scenarios. Like dads pissing and shitting on their ten year old sons or pozzing them. Lots of stories of op dads passing the bug on to their kids. The humiliation of faggots by alphas is also a recurring theme. Often the dad finds out his son is gay and rapes him as punishment.

R10 Yeah, that's completely out of bounds abnormal and you should stay away from that site. I can't say it any clearer. There are too many men out there with no boundaries, even if it is largely fictional and on paper.

I will say that I've enjoyed phone sex in the past, and have been on phone sex lines every once in a while. 20 years ago when I first discovered one, you'd **rarely** have someone talking about really freaky things and they'd just be blocked. Now it seems like I hear guys talking about or looking for chat about freaky things way more often (with no moderator around). They also brag about their drug consumption - all of them seem to talk about 'blowing clouds' - so I wonder if this lack of boundaries is a side effect of meth addiction or the like.

R11 the phone sex shit is crazy: lots of guys want me to pretend I’m their biological son. The dirty talk is weird too, with tops insisting how ‘straight’ and ‘masc’ they are.

Except for the pedo shit, it’s nowhere near as bad as the open bigotry of DL.

Why are you all reading those stories?

They are pretty clearly marked as what they are

Jerkoff material on Nifty? What a sad, pathetic life you must lead, OP. I CONDOLE YOU.

Just looked out of curiosity and there are indeed clearly labeled categories including "authoritarian" "adult/youth" "high school" and "incest" so you'd have to actively seek out one of those categories to read one of those stories.