NY Times Weddings: March-August gay love

Wow, that’s a hard age 42. He’s likely more mid-50’s

I swear I’ve seen the younger guy in an amateur porn video with three fattish old men

That old man is not 42 years old. He looks every day of 62. I would not even believe that he was 52.

[quote] He met Mr. Alpert, 42

Insanity. He looks 62

I showed my husband the photo and asked him how old he thought the two were.

He said 70 and late 30s.

When told the “real” ages - he said, Yikes!

I love a love story!

The point is, he looks like a walking heart attack.

Yeah "real ages". Sure.

Just looked him up on LinkedIn - graduates from URI in 2000. So he’s either 42 or really playing the long con.

The old one is definitely not 42! What a joke! And to put that out there so publicly - I hope he is geting a lot of shit from those who know him.

That man is not in his 40s ... or 50s.

IM 42!

I looked him up and cross checked - he actually is 42. I feel bad for him that he photographs older, but clearly he's doing better than a lot of us because he got the Twink.

Is it terrible that the first thing I assumed - and am still curious about - is if the older one has a trust fund?

Maybe they meant 'born in '42'?

As an atheist, I don't understand the converting to Judaism thing in same-sex relationships (assuming there aren't/won't be children). I understand hetero couples who want to marry and raise bio children within the faith, but I don't understand why/how this matters to two gay men.

Can someone explain?

Of course, it makes not difference whatsoever, except to these two. You'll have to ask them why it is important to them.

If I had gone through with it, r15, as I planned to in younger days, it would have been a definitive refutation of the horrible Catholic church in whose poison I was indoctrinated.

So many questions....

If you convert just because you are marrying someone, it just shows how little your religious beliefs actually mean to you.

People still convert to satisfy a spouse who won’t marry them unless they do. Then they inevitably divorce.

The idiotic NY Times writer David Brooks made his wife convert to Judaism in order to marry him. She did & she changed her first name to a more Hebrew name.

Then what happens? After 23 years & 3 kids he leaves her & marries his young research assistant - and now claims he is a “wandering Jew and a very confused Christian.”

People - stop converting to religions. Become mildly paganistic. Celebrate everyone’s seasonal holidays. Eat good food. Remain neutral when it comes to religion.

THAT.IS.NOT.42.

Get "internship" upfront. Give upback AFTER prenup.

And what's wrong with that, r19?

42?!!? Gurl.

He looks like he's in his 70s because he is rotting from the inside out. He's a thief and a Republican.

[quote]the District of Columbia Office of Campaign Finance had ordered Alpert to repay $37,760 in unauthorized personal expenses, including rent, meals and nightclubs, and $31,987 in unaccounted funds. It also charged him $4,000 in fines.

DISGUSTANG!

42 x 2

D'oh! The NYT should screen its "Vows" candidates more carefully.

The older one is a trashy grifter.

42?! SERIOUSLY?!?! He was 42 in 2000.

They do have good taste in housewares, in my opinion.

He's 46 and I don't know why he thinks lying to the Times is a good idea, other than that they don't fact check Style Section pieces very well. Also he's a liar and HE SMELLS COOKIES!!!!

Maybe they meant born in '42

Gay Republicans are always trashy as hell, so I'm not surprised this ancient-looking Neil Alpert was caught doing shady stuff.

Log Cabin scum

I like that roasting pan, I might get one. The plates are a little "grandma" for my tastes.

He looks closer to 72.

"He Married His Boss."

(Like a 1940s Rosalind Russell or Claudette Colbert romantic comedy, but with gay men instead).

Melamine dinner plates?

Well, I never…

r15 I wonder about that too. And it's weird to me that people in their 30s/40s are even religious at all in this day and age.

Gay people convert to Judaism because the Jewish spouse wants to married by a rabbi in a Jewish ceremony, and they cannot do that if they have an interfaith marriage.

Yes, there are a few reform rabbis who will do an interfaith wedding, but most will not. If the Jewish partner belongs to a specific synagogue and they want to be married by their rabbi in their synagogue, then they have to marry someone Jewish (converted or born).

[quote]42?! SERIOUSLY?!?! He was 42 in 2000.

2000? How about 1980.

He's 42 the way I'm 29

Wow, they really scored with the wedding haul from Williams Sonoma. All that Ocean Le Creuset! The Sicilian bowls annd platters are 'outdoor' (for an apartment in the Watergate?). Maybe they get messy on Shabbat wine and have a tendency to break things?

Maybe the bottom has to convert so when they have kids it's all legit with Jewish custom and law.

His neck fat is disgusting.

And who has a full head of white hair at 42?

[quote]the District of Columbia Office of Campaign Finance had ordered Alpert to repay $37,760 in unauthorized personal expenses, including rent, meals and nightclubs, and $31,987 in unaccounted funds. It also charged him $4,000 in fines.

the District of Columbia Office of Campaign Finance had ordered Alpert to repay $37,760 in unauthorized personal expenses, including rentBOYS, meals and BLOWJOBS IN BACKROOMS AT GAY STRIPPER nightclubs, and $31,987 in unaccounted funds USED FOR DRUGS. It also charged him $4,000 in fines.

R45?

He is DL's "I still get carded!" mascot.

The worst people shop at Williams Sonoma.

I don't understand why a man in a gay relationship converts to Judaism (unless it's to please the other man).

Jewish conversions usually occur when a WOMAN in the couple is another religion. The woman converts to Judaism because the religious status of the children comes from the female line. You can only call yourself a Jew if your mother was one.

Hey, don't blame me. I don't make the rules.

[quote] And who has a full head of white hair at 42?

Log Cabin Republicans.

I explained it in my post at R40.

Isn't AC an albino?

Getting married and being a Trump supporter is so hilarious when gays do it - especially now. Cancel your weddings they'll be rendered illegitimate. Go find a woman to marry.

It's like with COVID. NY warned the rest of the country that we were the canary in the coal mine and that we were their future if they didn't take precautions. And what happened? Didn't take it seriously until covid came for them. Now if this anti-gay woman gets the Supreme Court, the fucking gay idiots who vote Republican will once again have to depend on Dems to do something to correct it so they can continue to be putrid enemies who benefit from what Dems fight for.

I can't get over the fact that one of these two is named DickInSon and it's not even the daddy!!!

Is the older one the Sugar Mama?

Roger Rees converted for Rick Elice back in the 1980s.

[quote] Rees secretly converted to Judaism, looking for a sense of community he had lost following the deaths of his immediate family members.

[quote]In a 2013 interview with the Jewish Journal, an emotional Elice described how Rees converted to Judaism without telling him beforehand. “He didn’t tell me about his conversion until he came back from the mikveh,” Elice told the website, adding that they regularly attended New York’s Congregation Rodeph Sholom. “I was so moved that I wept,” he said.

According to this bio, he's now 43 (born 1977):

R31 Did they have to colorize that old photo?

The between-the-lines lies (and some literal ones like the older one's age):18 when they met, got an internship and only began relationship AFTER he steps down as CEO. And now serves as a right hand man (so to speak). Must have amazing oral skills.

[quote]“He didn’t tell me about his conversion until he came back from the mikveh,” Elice told the website, adding that they regularly attended New York’s Congregation Rodeph Sholom. “I was so moved that I wept,” he said.

MIRIAM!!!

LOL, R60. Seems totally in character for Elice, from what I've seen of him in interviews. Sweet guy. But also a onetime fanboy who got very, very lucky.

“I was so moved that I wept" is destined to be a classic DL bitchy response!

[quote]Jewish conversions usually occur when a WOMAN in the couple is another religion.

What do you think Damon Dickinson is?

I'm the newest member of the "WTF-this-is-42?" club. I had to travel all the way to Florida (!) to find another 42-year-old who looked so old and weathered.

[quote]According to this bio, he's now 43

In what Blanche, dog years?

I love everything about the Rees/Elice story:

[quote]1982: Elice was working at an ad agency, and one of his clients was “Cats"... At the dress rehearsal, he spotted Rees in the audience. He waited outside the stage door to introduce himself. “Standing before me was a six-foot-four, extraordinarily handsome American in a Burberry raincoat,” Rees recalled. “It was the raincoat that did it.” Rees was flying to London in two days, to star in Tom Stoppard’s “The Real Thing.” Did he have time for dinner before then?

[quote]The next night, Elice prepared pigeon en croûte at his apartment, on West Fifty-seventh Street (Rees: “The croûte was bigger than the apartment”).

Like others have said- This Alpert guy looks WAY older than 42. He looks at least 62.

Roger Rees had a nice dong.

He was the manager of Eninem's mom at one time? WTF????

Alpert is 42 in Catherine Zeta-Jones years.

I had the same reaction to the ages as everyone else, but there's another photo where he's in the background and you can at least buy that he's 42 when looking at his face. It's the body posture and suit and insane old man haircut for a bald guy that makes him look 20 years older. Bald men in their 40's today shave it off. I've never seen a gay bald guy under 70 who keeps the rest of his hair long.

Twink is marrying for the All-Clad.

Does all-clad really make that much of a difference?

"People - stop converting to religions. Become mildly paganistic. Celebrate everyone’s seasonal holidays. Eat good food. Remain neutral when it comes to religion."

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!

No hotties here. Move on

42 has to be a typo. No fucking way grandpa is that "young."

Eminem's mom had a manager?

What do you think they’re like in their personal and home lives?

LMAO

They met when the young one was an intern at a company where the old one was CEO. Now the young one has a cush job (and life) thanks to the old one...which includes a condo at the Watergate. This is hilarious on the surface, but the poor grifter gets a life of luxury and the fugly fatty gets a youngin'. Win/win!!!!!

Mr Alpert used to work for former RNC guy, Michael Steele

Typical repug. No shame

Old Fatty stole from kids

in 2007, the District’s Office of Campaign Finance found that Alpert improperly spent $37,670 on items not authorized by the D.C. Baseball PAC, which he chaired, or the D.C. Baseball Association, a nonprofit group the PAC created to raise money for youth programs.

So the old one clearly has a ton of money put away through theft.

So an old grifter is marrying a young gold-digger.

NYT Wedding pieces are such a disappointment - it used to be reserved for society, not dumpy nobodies that nobody cares about who don't even live in NYC.

I hate them both - and their whole 'how we met' bit is bullshit.

They began to get to know each other better through 'volunteer' work AFTER he left the company which is when the relationship took a romantic turn.

Every. Single. Word. Is. A. Lie.

Those two met on Daddyhunt.

People are so cynical. Before the “romantic turn” they were just fuck buddies. See the notes below.

“He met Mr. Alpert, 42, in March 2013 at a coffee shop in Washington, when Mr. Dickinson was still a student [teenage whore/client] at George Washington University, from which he graduated. The two stayed in touch [weekly sessions] and in September of that year, Mr. Dickinson began as one of several interns at LaserLock Technologies, [sugarbaby/sugardaddy] the company for which Mr. Alpert was then the chief executive. They got to know each other more through shared volunteer work in Washington after Mr. Dickinson left the company and it was then that their relationship began to take a romantic turn.

I have questions. After the internship ended, did Dickinson stay on with the company? How many times was he promoted? What did his coworkers think?

Really disappointed in NYTimes for letting this grifter thief in the Weddings section.

Can we agree that this guy wins the DL award for "People Who Look At Least Ten Years OLDER Than They Are"

Like everyone else, I thought 42 was a typo

And noted that they started dating when the younger one was a 19 year old college student which is sketch AF.

Ok, here he looks terrible in 2010

Here he is in 2015ish, apparently stealing from youth programs is great cardio.

I thought it was Dick Cheney in OP's photo and was WTF!

Someone prone to financial mismangement doesn't change overnight. Grandpa's past behavior and current splurging (e.g., condo in the Watergate) indicate he's trying to buy his new husband's love.

Yeah - he was 19 when he happened to meet this overweight 35 year old man in a coffeeshop - not where he worked mind you. Just random conversation with a strange almost twice his age.

He was an ESCORT and Mr. Alpert's fat ass was a paying CLIENT. He married his whore.

Things began to turn romantic after Mr. Dickinson left college and found that, with student loan debt and making $35K per year, life was HAARDD!!

This is so embarrassing - bad for the gays. And bad for the Jews while we're at it.

R94, you're probably onto something. GWU isn't cheap; the tuition is nearly $57,000 a year...

That is QUITE the forehead.

Oh, yeah . . .

Congratulations, boys!

If he's a fucking thief, send their entire gift haul to those from whom the low-life stole.

[quote] Yeah - he was 19 when he happened to meet this overweight 35 year old man in a coffeeshop - not where he worked mind you. Just random conversation with a strange almost twice his age.

But 2.5 times his weight.

He looks great for 39, just like I do

He's 42 like I'm still a nubile young twink.

The golddigger's hair is thinning. They'll be bald together soon.

Dickinson was clearly the office whore, the "official" version of this story is such bullshit.

Not only bad for gays and Jews but bad for the Times. Who the fuck works there now?

[quote] Yeah - he was 19 when he happened to meet this overweight 35 year old man in a coffeeshop - not where he worked mind you. Just random conversation with a strange almost twice his age. He was an ESCORT and Mr. Alpert's fat ass was a paying CLIENT. He married his whore.

No. Seems to come from an upper middle class family and was a student at GW. He didn't need the money. Though the job offer may have been what got him to open his legs

Far more likely they met at a gay bar (still existed in 2013) and they were thinking that he was underage to be in there at 19, so let's make it a coffee shop.

Golddigging becomes difficult in direct proportion to thinning hair. Therefore the marriage.

The gold digger isn't THAT hot.

Either he can suck the chrome off a bumper or has 10 or more inches

Just because he comes from an upper middle class family doesn't mean he didn't want to supplement his income. And imagine how much Fat Alpert has offshore.

Old fat grampa can't be picky when it comes to younger guys, Dickinson is probably the best he could do.

[quote]got an internship and only began relationship AFTER he steps down as CEO.

Yeah. This is the "Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt only began their relationship AFTER he had divorced Jen" People magazine PR bullshit.

I was trying to be nice R108

Because look at dude-- would you pay money for that?

Does anyone else feel like they need to shower after reading this?

'They got to know each other more through shared volunteer work in Washington after Mr. Dickinson left the company and it was then that their relationship began to take a romantic turn.'

What blackmail material exists?

Why does this make me think of Ivanka's and Jared's wedding?

Is this the same Neil Alpert? Is he a little person?

Sorry, I see the photo was posted at R90 already. That's on me, I don't have image previews on.

Still, he wants us to think he looked like that a decade ago when he was 32. He must be in his 50s.

The story is behind a paywall - what does it say about the twink's family to suggest they are UMC? Can someone post the entire article?

I need more info for snarky post fodder.

If you're going to just fucking lie do it right and use a stock photo of an actual 42 year old in your Times announcement.

Here's the article:

[quote]Despite the fact that Damon Dickinson and Neil Alpert are Jewish, the couple have celebrated Christmas with Mr. Dickinson’s family each of the last four years.

[quote]“Growing up Catholic, so many of my poignant life moments with my immediate or extended families were Christmas-related, so I have a lot of special memories there,” said Mr. Dickinson (left), 26, who converted to Judaism after the two began their relationship.

[quote]“Neil and I don’t celebrate Christmas in a religious sense, but in a more family-traditional sense,” added Mr. Dickinson, the director of operations and special projects at Potomac Management, a financial advisory firm in Washington. Mr. Alpert is the managing director of the firm.

[quote]He met Mr. Alpert, 42, in March 2013 at a coffee shop in Washington, when Mr. Dickinson was still a student at George Washington University, from which he graduated. The two stayed in touch and in September of that year, Mr. Dickinson began as one of several interns at LaserLock Technologies, the company for which Mr. Alpert was then the chief executive. They got to know each other more through shared volunteer work in Washington after Mr. Dickinson left the company and it was then that their relationship began to take a romantic turn.

Thats a hard 26 too . Compared to that toad husband ,hes a fucking 10+ . I hope this is on his i-pod.

Rethug and his low end whore gold digger

Did the article say for which organizations they volunteered? I’ve never seen either one of them around DC.

And 42? I guess as you age you do get the looks that you deserve.

Count me among those disappointed by the NYTimes. I used to read the wedding news in the paper--as a non-NYer--to read about distinguished people, famous people, and "Old Money" types. These two are trash.

Here's their registry at Bloomingdales

What is "because a lot of people are putting off their big weddings because of Covid or not announcing them because they were small ceremonies via Zoom"

R126 makes sense.

The fatty grifter saw his opportunity to get into the Times and took it.

Thanks for the find, R125.

Is anyone else singing, "Meet Georg Jenson" to the Jetsons' theme song?

[quote]Typical repug. No shame

Jason Miller comes to mind as the latest in a very long line of shameless rethugs.

NYT wedding announcements are paid for and planted

Gays eat their own.

Welcome to the cesspool.

You bitches are so mean, they obviously come to this website and are DL’ers.

This couple is too dismal for even Andy Cohen to kiss up to.

[quote] Gays eat their own.

Oh yes, DL does so much more damage than being a Gay Republican who literally does the bidding of a party who proactively works against gays even being allowed to marry

[quote]Welcome to the cesspool.

You mean the GOP?

And WTF is Andy Cone?

R131 We're "mean" ? What about all those underprivileged kids that gargoyle ripped off ? Were they mean too ? If hes 42 ,can you just imagine what he will look like in 10 years ? If that doesnt deserve mockery on here, what does ???

"42" is only a partial error.

It refers to his waist size.

The Times regrets this partial error.

We don't want 'em.

It's sort of humorous that all of these GOP trash, when found guilty of a crime, need to declare it in a newspaper that they've "found Jesus"--in this case, the Jewish form. Though, strangely, they managed to cram Judaism and Catholicism into one article.

And they'll be voting for the guy who wants to take our right to marry away.

Screw these losers. I hope the renewed interest in his grifting becomes a thorn in his side.

If he has a 42 inch waist then my skinny jeans are 54x30!

Shit. I'm 64 and wouldn't even try to present as 42.

Im 59 and I promise you I look younger than he does. Id post a pic of myself,but i just started making progress after years of intensive therapy and I dont want to lose ground. You cunts can be viscous !

r139 I believe you!

So it’s solely for the money, right?

And it seems that the old one has a history of stealing lots of money

What a skinny little geek that Dickinson guy is. He must have a 9" dong and no gag reflex.

The older one is a thieving scumbag, and you know he's probably done even worse than what's been reported.

R142 - I don't think he's doing the sucking and if he is, I doubt Mr. Alpert's genitalia, once uncovered from the folds of flesh, would be a choking hazard. Gherkin comes to mind.

Dickinson is trash as well - what self-respecting gay gets involved with a known-cheater, bald, overweight, REPUBLICAN who is 16 years your senior?

Garbage fire all around. Even Melania would disapprove.

They love the Golden Girls...they're perfect for DL.

God you guys are cynical! This is a love story for the ages, not unlike mine.

Was the bris also covered in the social pages?

Does a grown man who has a foreskin and converts to Judaism have a bris? Is it done in an operating theater?

About 8 months I reckon, r102

I heard it's considered ok just to prick the foreskin and draw a little blood, R148. What happens with someone who is already circumscribed I don't know. I'm too lazy to Google either.

[quote] Count me among those disappointed by the NYTimes. I used to read the wedding news in the paper--as a non-NYer--to read about distinguished people, famous people, and "Old Money" types. These two are trash.

It used to have an element of society to it for sure. I guess people like looking at these because fashion/weddings is complicated now. It has vows, mini-vows, "binge read featured couples". Would love to know the sorting mechanism. This pair is mini-vows!

[quote]Here's their registry at Bloomingdales

Those bitches cleaned up! Got all but two gifts. But noticeably not completed...ur, not "gifted" yet, is the Christofle Mood Party Tray, in easy-to-clean stainless. A bargain at $985.

I'm guessing this tray is not the only thing missing in their relationship.

Should we take up a collection and gift them that tray as a best wishes and glad tidings sentiment from DL?

You can get a tray like that at Target for around $30 and nobody would know the difference.

You know that old saying about a fool and his money.....

R152: I'd chip in, but only if the card said, "May You Always Be as Happy as You Are Today, Whore and Thief, With Love from the Datalounge."

They are very disturbing.

My gift would be a card reading "A donation has been made in your name to the people from whom you stole, you thieving cunt."

This is what 65 year olds who claim to look 45 think 45 actually looks like.

The math is adding up in terms of the "old" one being in his early 40s. Still, he looks like shit and I just can't imagine having to see him in various stages of undress.

This bothers me.

Imagine making love to him. You would have to lap up his bodily fluids to get a piece of that loot. It must be considerable.

I meant the loot though I have no doubt his bodily fluids are considerable as well.

Love is money.

R152 - well, they only had 14 items total. I'm thinking they bought some of these themselves to round out the set. They were married a few weeks ago - it's done all the time. Otherwise you have 3 of 8 pieces you wanted and you can't do shit with it.

[quote] They got to know each other more through shared volunteer work.

Perhaps for Mr Dickinson the work was done on a voluntary basis, but I suspect that for the embezzling Mr Alpert, it was court ordered.

"Volunteer work" - is when the whore stops charging and tries to grift the John of larger amounts by marrying them.

You just know the Dickinmyson parents were more than thrilled to offload their baldiing offspring off on the Old Jew - which is what they refer to their beloved SIL when the NYT is not around. They couldn't give a flying fuck about the conversion, the insane age difference, the rented Watergate condo or the grifting.

They're just happy to no longer have to deal with the obvious hooking/"internships", the cash handouts, venereal warts, and the parade of eldergays through their suburban house at 4 in the morning during Spring Break. If tossing this toad a turkey dinner and a Christmas stocking once a year keeps Demon - I mean Damon - away, it's worth it.

I can't believe the sugar daddy isn't more embarrassed about securing a job for someone he met in a coffee shop and who he later married. It makes me question his business ethics. And the part about their relationship only taking a romantic turn after his boy toy left his firm is about as believable as his age.

Given the background checks and necessity of being bonded, its highly unlikely that the old, fat, crooked one (who seems to change employment more than some people change underwear) would be hired by a reputable financial services company, with a criminal background like his. Its more likely that whatever company they both work for is an LLC started by them for status so one could be the CEO and the other a Director. What legit company would allow that level of nepotism? I seriously doubt that the gold digger, who looks dumb as a box of rocks, has figured out yet that fatboy hasn't got any money. And just because you live in the Watergate doesn't mean you OWN at the Watergate...most of the units are rented by state department employees, because its in walking distance, or by congressional aids to elected officials, who don't buy because they could be jobless at any given election. I'd love to see the fallout from their little NYT featurette.

R168 - here's the thing - they didn't need to put ANY OF THAT in their wedding announcement! This isn't verite reporting - they provide the details.

Which is why the story is so pathetically and patently false.

[quote]It makes me question his business ethics.

Hon, have you even read the other posts? There are several which link to him literally STEALING campaign funds. He has no ethics period.

Who's the top?

I thought this was Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank.

Neither! That's what double-enders are for.

Ass to ass! Ass to ass!

This announcement reminds me of a theory I came up with when these were regularly posted on DL in the late 00s/early 10s: The NY Times intentionally features couples that will draw trolls or people who share the announcements on social media sites. Clicks are clicks and few people will spend weeks scrutinizing a couple who are equally matched in terms of looks and socio-economic status.

An old fatty prone to financial crimes and his younger, social-climbing partnervon the other hand...

Here’s another pic from the DC Opera fundraiser

The article at R81 states that lardass never returned the money he stole

August? Is this a 10 month year?

August from another year?

August as a trait as opposed to a month.

Or is the March one, as in marching confidently towards in imminent demise?

r170, what I don't understand is, if they are controlling their own narrative, why did they include details that make them look shady? I guess they're dumb enough to think people can't connect the dots.

That's a Wilford Brimley 42.

Alpert is still giving to Republicans

R15 the 42 year olds mother won’t entertain a shiksa.

Fuck this aging cunt. A gay, Jewish Republican

[quote]That's a Wilford Brimley 42.

Has he got the diabeetus?

R176 - oh cynical one - I like your thinking. Web page impressions are important.

Plus, I have to wonder if they charge a higher rate. Or they are doing regional announcements for outside of NYC metro area subscribers.

Yuck

As much as I love dragging the guy that's clearly 65-not-42, I'm deep down jealous because he found young, cute, love and I haven't.

It helps if you BOTH convert. My sister in law converted from being a Protestant to a Catholic.

My brother converted from being gay to being straight.

People who are still deeply religious in the year 2020 are so fucking weird.

And you R188 are precisely the reason why so many gay men are so lonely and miserable. If you put fewer hopes in young cute love and more on love with a peer of the same age who is an equal in looks you would actually have a shot at long lasting love

R191 As if . Ive never sought out young and cute,always dated my age range . But I gave up trying because while I dont look 20 years younger,Im still not bad looking. All Ive ever wanted was someone on my level ,a good solid 6, 7 on a great day. All I ever get on dating and hook up sites is the ancient ,decrepit,diseased and truly hideous. Any guy my age thats still cute ALL want 25 year olds. Whats a great looking gal of 45 supposed to do !

I believe you R192. If only all gay guys thought the same way none of them would be single!

If I'm not attracted to a guy what's the point? You've got to find someone who attracts you physically and emotionally and feels the same way about you. Otherwise the person is just taking up space. We don't have the same pressures as heterosexual do in coupling up therefore most of us are going to be alone and it's nobody's fault. Not even our own. It's pure luck. The guy is cute and I like him. Does he feel the same way about me? Maybe not. Who do you blame?

I have found that being attracted to someone emotionally and intellectually totally changes the way you're attracted to them physically. People I wouldn't look twice at when walking down the street become incredibly attractive after a great conversation and seeing flashes of personal kindness.

He looks like he was 42 42 years ago.

R195 - particularly when you intern for them or do a lot of 'charity' work together.

If you're okay being alone R194 then more power to you, obviously you accept responsibility for your position and have no issues with it. But attraction does not exist in a vacuum and never has despite what shallow people would like to believe.

No I'm not saying I'm ok being alone. But why should I force myself to be attracted to someone when it is not there? You're calling me shallow but what you're saying makes absolutely no sense. Like trying to make someone who doesn't love you love you. It does not work that way despite your idealistic fantasies.

R148 If you genuinely would like to know, it very much depends on the individual rabbi the candidate is converting under, as well as the congregation. If the bloke was previously circumcised in hospital, he's still generally obligated to have the Bris ceremony celebrating the "covenant" and the tip of the penis is "pricked" (pardon the pun) and a drop or two of blood is is symbolically used.

Some Mohels have specific experience with converts, or those Jews who happen to circumcised later in life. I know of a convert who had the procedure done in hospital, with a rabbi present. I don't have all the details, but he's Reform, so probably fair to say MUCH more lenient than Conservative, Shomrei Masoret (Masorti) or Orthodox. Many Reform rabbis would probably allow a convert to choose a naming ceremony as well.

Have fun being alone R199! Or not, if you have the cash to pay for a cute young guy whom you "love"

Fuck and love somebody who you don't find attractive if it does it for you. I'm not that desperate.

Keep pretending only young men are attractive. You'll have a long and happy life.

I can fully see the outrage against the hypocrisy of being a "Log Cabinette", and frankly, it seems even more unforgivable to me for a Jewish man, however, I don't get why everyone has dragged them here for the other superficial reasons. The older fellow's face actually looks young up close, unlined, and firm.

There's several reasons why their marriage may work. It's refreshing to read R195 and R198. I'm not sure why people are making the assumption here that the younger of the two couldn't possibly be attracted to his husband. Different strokes for different folks. Love is a mystery sometimes. It shouldn't be for us to judge.

You like to make shit up. I never said that. You're attracted to whom you're attracted to.

I've always pitied guys who never developed the ability to find people attractive at all ages. Thankfully my taste in men has aged along with me. Sure 25 year olds can be hot, but not like a well put together older man - at least for me.

When I was younger, I couldn't see anyone past 30 or 35. Hopefully most people grow out of it - for those who don't, it's a pitiful life.

It is no mystery in this case.

'It shouldn't be for us to judge.' Just where do you think you are?

R207 Even for DL, it seems illogical that simply because a given poster finds the older man unattractive, so should that man's husband. I should think given that he's getting married AND converting, he's probably more serious than a casual May-December younger man. I still get to voice MY opinion, though it may be unpopular here.

You're the one saying it shouldn't be for us to judge as if all of us giving our opinions shouldn't.

And changing from one religion to another for the sake of the other means that the religion you grew up with means shit to you and shows a nasty opportunistic streak like Ivanka becoming a Jew for Jared and his disgusting family. Yeah their Judaism means a lot to them alright with the crap they've pulled. And considering Alpert's crimes he's as spiritual as a can of worms. And that is probably the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot of stolen cash hidden away in this story.

R209 The meaning I tried to convey was that it's fine to speculate about hypocrisy being a Jewish Log Cabinette, (possibly the grift as well) but we really never can tell what's in people's hearts or minds. There are so many somewhat mystifying aspects to our sexuality, and love, it isn't possible to really be sure or judge. There seems to be so many adamant posters that this Mr.Alpert is completely disgusting... that's personal taste. You can't really believe everyone feels the same as you do. I don't see anything wrong physically with Mr. Alpert myself.

He may have a huge cock, an amazing sense of humour, share a fetish with his mate, or they may really be madly in love in addition to any of that. That's why no one can really [italic] adequately [/italic] judge. I wasn't trying to shut down the speculation; simply giving an alternate opinion. We don't actually know these people, they're strangers in a newspaper.

If you are going to judge, Judge favourably; Dan L'kaf zechus. Give benefit of the doubt so to speak.

Shalom

Sheesh. If you want to look at this blindly and in simpering sentimentality go ahead but but Shalom is clearly Bless You in somebody else's parlance. In other words a hearty go fuck yourself. Nice.

FFS R211, Shalom has several meanings but as a parting word it means peace. You need to chill the fuck out and be a little respectful of someone who was disagreeing with you, kindly.

I was going to get the young balding one some Rogaine as a wedding present but I do not see it on the registry? Did someone else already gift them the Rogaine?

How dare you tear down out gay men, OP!! YOU MUST NEVER CRITICIZE OUT GAY MEN!!! EVER!!!

The amount of vitriol on this site is depressing. Diversity and inclusion, right?

[quote]The amount of vitriol on this site is depressing. Diversity and inclusion, right?

It's nice to see that DL is attracting new people to the site. Welcome aboard. Check your email for your DL introduction and orientation packet.

Much obliged R212. Yes, it certainly was meant as Peace, and it's a common polite and kind closure used by Jews and Christians alike. It nevers means "Fuck You".

I have been on this site for a while, R216. But I have seen it degenerate into a vile, racist, intolerant, sanctimonious cesspool recently. This is beyond being bitchy and bitter. Maybe, it’s because everybody is a little on edge now. There are still some informative and fun threads occasionally but even those are at risk of being taken over by assholes.

R218 I couldn't possibly agree more with your sentiments.

r218 he's a thieving Republican asshole who should be in jail.

Just because someone is out doesnt give them a pass for being lying,thieving grifters . That old toad is a piece of shit , no matter what he cloaks himself in. 42 my left nut .

Boo hoo. People are being SO DARN mean to this frail, ancient looking Log Cabin shitbag and his rapidly balding boy toy who sought out attention by highlighting their "blessed union" in a major newspaper. Gosh, we should stop, guys! Just say nice things!

I don't know if they met there but both did volunteer work with the Miss DC pageant, the same one won by Ashley Darby on RHOP. Word on the street is that is not really respected in the pageant community.

R223 - the younger one looks cute there and I take back the hair comments. He has a cute smile and tight body. There's still time to escape!

[Quote] The amount of vitriol on this site is depressing. Diversity and inclusion, right?

Yes, let’s include and love those who support the party that wants to stomp all over our rights...

R221 I didn't read any responses defending lying, grifting, "cabinetting", or anything about that.

Diversity and inclusion doesn't extend to criminals. There's no color in the rainbow flag that represents stealing from youth organizations.

I find any sympathy or warm and fuzzy feelings towards these two repulsive, so call me vile. These two are vile giving gay marriage a bad name. I thought we were better than heterosexuals and wouldn't put up with their hypocritical shit. Clearly not.

They’re kind of repugnant just for putting their stupid marriage in the New York Times. That’s all about showing off. Seldom an admirable quality. That’s before you get to the chicanery. Don’t get the defence here. They’re ugly versions of the kind of gays that feel a need to flaunt themselves to get attention in the New York Times. Whatever.

He’s a fucking criminal. Why are we celebrating this man?

In R223 he looks WAY older than 42. He could easily pass for early 60s

......and if you heard he was 67 or 68, you'd say slightly well preserved.