Why do "straight" dudes love homoerotic behavior like hazing?

They are straight, not "straight", you sad thing.

I get to touch other's guys dicks and it's no homo......but sometimes we get to fuck later.....but no homo.

It's a power thing. To make another guy uncomfortable is to make yourself more powerful since you are causing the discomfort. It's actualized aggression.

I played sports in HS. The initiation to Letterman's Club (you "lettered" in a sport) was....

... going into a room with two older guys. Pull down my pants and lie down... have the older boys spread Ben Gay and chocolate syrup on my testicles. Then stand up, have them yell at you, and walk around all day with balls inflamed and chocolate soaking through my pants.

It was a private parochial high school.

A man who plays with another man's penis is not entirely straight, no matter what the circumstances.

So would you say all the guys in that video are Bi R5?

Oh brother. Didn't you gays ever play any sports, or have ANY straight friends? This isn't interesting or hot and certainly not for gay adults. My god you're pathetic.

They also love "homoerotic behavior like hazing" when they are 18 or 19 years old.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a 45 year old straight guy who thought that was fun.

Straight chicks don't go around hanging out naked and slapping each others pussy R7

Grow up, nutsack.

Caveman behavior

You seem to have the sexual and social range of experiences of a 19 yo fat ugly gay shop bottom.

R6, no, of course not. Getting naked , engaging in silly pranks is not gay, straight or bi, it's just drunken shenanigans. However, fondling another man's penis is not something straight men do...

Dudes in the video look older than 18 or 19 R8

Where is that video from?

Just a power thing. Humiliating another to feel more important. And some are obviously self loathing closet cases and get off on it

It's a form of Praise Giving.

On this random Twitter feed R15

Nice junk.

JFC OP, it's a fucking fetish Twitter account.

Those are probably outtakes from gay pron films.

Locker room footballers

Straight men + alcohol = all sorts of ridiculousness

It a collection by a fetishist of guys doing dumb naked shit. About the level of OP's sexual imagination. Birds of a feather.

The devil tempts us in many devious ways.

Cuz' straight guys love the dick. They can't help it. They crave it. They want it !!

We get it R23. You've already said the same thing about five times already

You're the twat who put straight in "".

You're the idiot who thinks those crappy scenes are from porn films R27

Women don't do this because women are different.

It's a peculiar form of bonding.

Well, no, that was a different idiot. I'm the dumb gay cunt who grew up playing sports and was in frat in college and know plenty of straight guys get up to "no homo" hijinks and no quotation marked "straight" required.

I didn't think those quotation mark would be so triggering

Do you think guys horsing around in your perverted video collections of straight guys, are not straight?

If you are turned on by this - just start a simple thread - "videos of straight guys horsing around half naked are so hot".

There isn't one explanation for why guys enjoy male company including this kind of shit. maybe you should travel around the world and see how men interact with each other, outside your bubble.

I don't know their sexuality, some could be straight or bi. I was curious about the psychology behind dudes who do this sort of thing and other people's opinions. Isn't that the point of a conversation?

I find it hard to believe that your bitchy, judgy self was in a frat

[quote] Spanking asses, grabbing each others' balls, naked pranks with each other, that sort of stuff

[quote] It's not like chicks do this sort of thing with each other.

My sorority sisters were ALWAYS trying to grab my balls.

There is no one explanation and there are thousands of scenarios.

R35 LOL

I need more video evidence of this straight homo behavior before I can form an opinion!

[quote] Women don't do this because women are different.

Women prefer to be passive aggressive mean girls.

Homosocial, near-nude warrior behavior between otherwise heterosexual-presenting men goes back millennia to Greeks/Romans and many other cultures. A thin line between testosterone, violence, sexuality, etc.

What country are the guys in OP's video from?

The bearded guy is the hottest one

Closet cases. Always.

Rugby dudes

They’re English rugby players. They’re not gay, it’s just a very specific culture, you’ll have to trust me on this.

[quote]A man who plays with another man's penis is not entirely straight, no matter what the circumstances.

Not everyone is a homophobe.

Dang, why didn't I pledge a frat and/or play rugby?

R41: Brits?

More antics.

Latent homosexuals.

Whatever the cause, it's hot.

I prefer this to straight men who act like accidentally touching each other is gay and the worst sin ever.

However those guys in OP's video do seem to have an IQ of around 70.

Nothing wrong with torturing someone and setting them on fire in the name of fun. And I'm a handsome A++ actor now.

Those guys are DRUNK

It’s simple, OP. There’s no such thing as a straight man. Every man ever born was/is attracted to other guys, whether deep down or openly and proudly. Some guys might be bi, but no man is genuinely not attracted to other men.

Get a grip, r46. You’re not a misogynist just because you don’t want to eat pussy and straight men aren’t homophobes just because they don’t want to fondle another guy’s dick.

The straight male of the species in their natural habitat.

The straight male of the species in their natural habitat.

I notice older men don't tend to do this stuff. It's mostly younger men.

Jesus, that room must smell of beer and balls.

In 8th grade we'd ambush each other and hit each other in the nuts.

A lot of men are just curious to see how they stack up in cock size to other men.

Straight guys act like they are part of a wolf pack.

R7 They don’t? Are you sure? How do you know?

Miss Thing R7 is Little Miss Expert on Heterosexual men.

[quote] Didn't you gays ever play any sports

I bet your sport was synchronized swimming!

Why wouldn't they enjoy it? The nude male body is superior.

OP I'm the bitchy judgy one from above and I'm throwing you this bone. In case you really are fascinated by the topic besides being turned on by the perviness.

Age-old joke:

Q: What's the difference between a straight man and a gay man?

A: Six beers.

I see no problem with this.

R46, how is my statement homophobic? You're probably a tranny who insists that biological sex & a person's sexuality isn't real, but living in some bizarre fantasy world is normal.

Fuck off, tranny loon, you don't belong here.

Yo! I'm not gay!

I had high school "friends" - more the other guys in the neighborhood my age - that would do stuff like this to each other and to me.

I think it's a power struggle combined with a wee bit of curiosity about other guys. Most of that curiosity is more about sizing up other men and seeing how they themselves fit into the larger picture. I'm sure a little bit of it is legitimate curiosity - not, as someone said upthread "no homo" but maybe "a little homo."

But I can tell you there's a big difference if you start responding in a way that indicates you enjoy it or might be gay. I was part of the gang until there were a few times I couldn't hide my interest or response, and within a few weeks I was shunned and went on to experience years of abuse from my "friends."

When men become older hey can shoot each other or find other ways to assert pecking order and dominance....but for younger guys this is their way to test their wings before they fly.

I agree

There is acceptance for being brosexual. Not so much for being gay

R73, I don't know what I just watched, but that was hilarious.

Most people probably have some degree of potential for bisexuality. There's a subset of straight-identified men for whom same-sex attraction/behaviour is both deeply fascinating and at the same time threatening to their self-image. That contradiction gets expressed via humour/hijinks like this, usually in groups and often when alcohol can be blamed.

There aren't that many ways for them to dominate, hurt, or humiliate others, in a context that's considered socially acceptable. ' They take their chances when they can, even if they aren't actually closet cases who are getting off on it. For some, the power rush is enough.

likely

R78 nailed it.

very concise

OP, straight guys love homoerotic behavior because no women are involved. Women are a pain in the ass and the straight men know that better than anyone. But they can't help it. They are straight and drawn to pussy. It's a curse.

But when they can break free of that downward spiral known as heterosexuality, they love the company of other fine young men. They can relax. Have fun. Not deal with head trips and passive aggression or whining.

R83, your misogyny is repulsive

the poster I blocked years ago

R84 Repulsion is a subjective emotion. It's preferable to say "I am repelled by your etc etc"

I think a large percentage of straight men do fantasize about having sex with men but are too terrified to do it. The homoerotic straight play they get up to once in a while is just a way for them to satisfy, at least to some degree, their fantasies.

I miss Michfest. The tit- slapping, the nut loaf, the garbage detail. Fun times.

R88, of all threads, this one reminded you of Michfest?

I thought this thread would be hotter.

Straight dare

Those blond guys are handsome.

Do they typically hang out like this R45?

Big boys

Straight bros

All these pictures are English, aren't they?

They aren't as 'hung-up' as Americans.

And always drunk!

We already have a huge longterm thread on this called “Brahs being Brahs.”

I've said it before and I'll say it again: despite the weird eldergays in here who look at sexuality as a rigid thing that is set in stone, every person on the planet is always a few jägerbombs away from acting against the sexuality they identify as. The only thing separating a gay man from a straight man is a little alcohol and self control.

As for stuff like hazing, it's straight men's way of acting out against the status quo. Every man is a little bit gay and a little bit straight, and stuff like hazing is their way of express their gay side in a way where they can do it and pretend like it's all just fun and games.

More pervy stuff, please

they love to spank

Back years ago wasn’t the DL mantra: the only thing between a straight man and gay behavior was a six pack?

Porn Star, Colby Jansen says he'll fuck anyone who gives him a sixpack

R99 so all these flaming gay guys suddenly like pussy after a few shots?

Amazing Datalounge

A lot of gay-identitied dudes have slept with females after drinking

Keep in mind that if guys are not almost entirely hetero, running naked around Benidorm with their big British cocks dangling and slapping each others asses and playing jokes in the shower, and tea bagging their passed out buddies, are not experienced as homoerotic.

I didn't realize British men were such cavemen.

I think a put an illogical "not" in my argument.

men will be boys

A hole is a hole, and regardless of what gender that hole belongs to, most men will fuck anything when they're horny enough or drunk enough. Straight men will go gay and vice versa. It's all a matter of circumstance.

R102:

See way the hell back at R70.

It's all about power and bonding with the group. The athletes and frat guys would deny the homoerotic aspect of it and claim its only homosocial.

Where do they draw the line between snapping a towel at your mate's butt or touching his cock and seniors on the football team taking a broom handle and sticking it up the butt of the freshmen? There have been stories of that happening as a hazing ritual on high school sports teams.

It's all abusive behavior. The guy who won't participate is the guy the other guys on the team or will call a "f@gg*t!"

It's common in the Russian military, where recruits are systemically physically and sexually assaulted. The problem is completely ignored.

It’s more than homosocial. When your Penis is grinding on a dude’s butt, it’s sexual no matter what you disclaim

Tell us, better yet, show us more about homoerotic hazing in the Russian Military. Thanks in advance.

Why do you care? They laugh at you, OP.

I care about all of that wasted sex

R99. Why do you think that mindset hasn’t been around for ages? You think your perspective is unique and groundbreaking? Thank you for stating the obvious.

I was in a club in high school that also sang. It was “the” cool group and had all the popular jocks as members.

On hell night, which was the culmination of two weeks of initiation, there was one brother who had his initiate bring him a bottle of conditioner.

As they were all blindfolded and having all kinds of shit poured on them out in this field, he would come by, act like he was jerking off and then spray them with the conditioner which had the smell and feel of cum. I thought it was genius.

We fed them steaks later. It was the classic break them down and build them up kinda thing.

[quote] It was the classic break them down and build them up kinda thing.

So after that they became great singers?

^^^ No, after THAT they became psychotic, bullying sadists. Not unlike myself.

[quote] So after that they became great singers?

Truthfully, the singing was secondary to looking good in tuxes and having outrageous parties. I am average. But several of the other football players were over the top hot.

Obviously, my reference was lost on you.

slapping asses comes naturally

[quote] Obviously, my reference was lost on you.

What reference?

I'm not r118, but you obviously missed his point about your gross club initiation.

straight dudes feel closer to their feminine side

Apparently lost on you as well r122. R118 actually quoted the exact part that went right over your head.

Guess you guys were more into playing with dolls.

what a loser

R117/R120/R124:

I'm not R118 or R122, though I think you missed 118's sarcasm and 122's pointing out your obliviousness to that sarcasm.

[quote]Truthfully, the singing was secondary to looking good in tuxes and having outrageous parties.

In other words, you were part of a pseudo glee club where the singing was tertiary to looking cool and partying. You were shallow high school kids playing fraternity. Obviously, it had little to do with refining anyone's singing abilities or harmonizing well. The draw was that you got to play power games by humiliating junior members of your club. That's not very different from bullying. It's just more organized.

[quote]It was the classic break them down and build them up kinda thing.

You break them down but you don't build them up afterwards. Breaking them down means they become obedient and the opposite of independent thinkers. They turn into unquestioning followers who are willing to do anything you ask of them and tolerate anything you do to them, no matter how terrible. That's the same tactic successfully used by cults, the military, abusive spouses, and of course, some college fraternities/sororities.

Back to OP's question: I think the majority who subject others to hazing are straight. It's not sexual to them. It's a way of asserting their dominance within a social group by lording it over others. They get off on the power trip and making pledges feel vulnerable (naked, tied-up, subjected to various forms of humiliation). The tormentors enjoy this and the feeling that they are immune from any consequences.

For someone who put together such a detailed post, you have very little history. Wonder why?

He needs to be spanked

R124: What a strange response at R127.

If you are referring to my comments, then you think 700+ replies on DL equals "very little history"? LQTM, okay then. Do you know how the ignore feature actually works? It only shows the threads we have both commented on. You probably have many posters on block, thus you are seeing only a small sampling of each one's comment history.

If you meant something else, like my personal background, then yes, you have very little on which to base your opinion.

Either way, it's quite revealing that instead of addressing the topic that you started in R117, you change the subject by focusing on the commenter, not the pertinent comment. That's something expected from trolls. Are you one?

face slaps