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Fiona Apple "Shadowboxer"

This was one of those mysterious songs when it was released and you knew nothing about the person singing.

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by Anonymousreply 54October 10, 2020 5:07 AM

Criminal and Shadowboxer are two of her best songs.

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by Anonymousreply 1September 17, 2020 10:15 PM

I love this song. I do feel that her first album is kind of 50% excellent stuff, 50% not-so-good stuff (she really hit her stride with "When the Pawn..." I feel), but "Shadowboxer" is definitely in the excellent side.*

I have this really weird notion come into my head sometimes; that I can actually imagine Sandra Bernhard performing this song during her stand up. I don't know what that's about, and I don't even like her singing, but I can see her doing it.

*In case anyone is interested, the best of Tidal to me is: "Sleep to Dream", "Sullen Girl", "Shadowboxer", "Criminal" and "Carrion".

by Anonymousreply 2September 17, 2020 10:23 PM

Criminal is her only good song. Meh.

by Anonymousreply 3September 17, 2020 10:27 PM

That's such a weird image with the man's feet on the sides of her head.

by Anonymousreply 4September 17, 2020 10:29 PM

This track is genius. But I agree her first album was half-baked. She needed a couple more writing sessions and a better producer. I agree with the highlights R2 mentioned but I would add NEVER IS A PROMISE.

She's my favorite singer-songwriter. From WHEN THE PAWN...on, she didn't make a bad album, they all have been brilliant masterpieces. The weakest one is EXTRAORDINARY MACHINE and it's still amazing.

by Anonymousreply 5September 17, 2020 10:30 PM

I love Tidal. "Pale September" is possibly my favourite song from it.

by Anonymousreply 6September 17, 2020 10:30 PM

Meh. '90s has-been.

by Anonymousreply 7September 17, 2020 10:37 PM

I like "Paper Bag."

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by Anonymousreply 8September 17, 2020 10:38 PM

Another favorite is Fiona w/Elvis Costello, "I Want You."

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by Anonymousreply 9September 17, 2020 10:39 PM

Fast As You Can

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by Anonymousreply 10September 17, 2020 10:44 PM

She's for sure being nominated for several Grammys this year for FETCH THE BOLT CUTTERS. <3

by Anonymousreply 11September 17, 2020 10:50 PM

I really enjoy this song from her fourth album. I've often wondered, is there a name for this kind of song structure? Where there are various lines that get layered and layered and layered before all coming together at the end? The closes thing I can think of is a "round", but of course that's the same lyrics being staggered, so not quite the same thing.

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by Anonymousreply 12September 17, 2020 10:54 PM

I don't know if those songs have a specific name or subtype but that was the song that influenced her current sound the most. "Relay", "Newspaper" and specially "On I Go" are very influenced by that track.

by Anonymousreply 13September 17, 2020 11:08 PM

Her first album was pretty good. After that, she became an insufferable, unlistenable cunt.

Her music is the same repetitive, narcissistic crap. Me Me Meeeeeeeee

by Anonymousreply 14September 17, 2020 11:12 PM

"Evil is a relay sport when the one who's burnt turns to pass the torch" is a really great line to build a song from. I haven't spent enough time with the latest album yet, but that song definitely stood out to me on first listen.

by Anonymousreply 15September 17, 2020 11:16 PM

r11 Nobody cares about the Grammys anymore.

She's a vastly overpraised lyricist. Every song sounds like she spent an hour browsing r/relationships then ran to her thesaurus. She uses the word "mean" in songs even more than Madonna used the word "blue" in Erotica.

by Anonymousreply 16September 18, 2020 12:10 AM

[quote] Her first album was pretty good. After that, she became an insufferable, unlistenable cunt. Her music is the same repetitive, narcissistic crap. Me Me Meeeeeeeee

[quote] "Evil is a relay sport when the one who's burnt turns to pass the torch" is a really great line to build a song from.

I liked her first album, too. She does seem to be a navel gazer. She seems like she'd be the one to call everyone else a "narcissist."

by Anonymousreply 17September 18, 2020 12:12 AM

LOVE IT.

She's my soul sister; such a beautiful, crazy bitch.

by Anonymousreply 18September 18, 2020 12:36 AM

One-hit wonder, 1990s has-been. Meh.

by Anonymousreply 19September 18, 2020 12:41 AM

Fiona Who?

by Anonymousreply 20September 18, 2020 12:49 AM

In the late 90's when it seemed like so many of the women we saw on TV were anorexic-thin, I remember someone released one of those basic downloadable computer games containing these women, like Calista Flockhart, Fiona Apple, Courtney Cox etc, and you would feed them by throwing pies and other assorted foods at them. Fiona Apple was referred to as "Fiona Scrapple", I remember that, but can't remember the others. Can find absolutely no reference to this game having existed now, but I'm sure I'm not imagining.

by Anonymousreply 21September 18, 2020 12:54 AM

I love “Under The Table”.

Either I adore or hate her individual songs. On the whole, I think she’s brilliant.

by Anonymousreply 22September 18, 2020 1:01 AM

The Gags loves her.

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by Anonymousreply 23September 18, 2020 1:01 AM

Her career has been shit.

by Anonymousreply 24September 18, 2020 1:09 AM

R20 Meredith who?

by Anonymousreply 25September 18, 2020 1:14 AM

I'm with you, R22. In fact, When the Pawn... is the only album of hers I actually love, start to finish. Every other album has songs I really like and songs I'm "meh" on, but I can never deny that overall she is wonderful. A bit like how I feel towards Regina Spektor too.

The most interesting experience with one of Fiona's albums like that was The Idler Wheel. I could SEE that it was exactly the type of thing I loved - I mean, it's pretty much an album of piano, percussion and voice: my favourites! And yet, while the songs in the middle of the album are all good, I recognise that, they don't particularly move me either. However "Every Single Night" and "Hot Knife" are amazing and I can listen to those two over and over and over. And weirdly, I also know that if this album had been released when I was in my teens, I would've eaten it up entirely.

by Anonymousreply 26September 18, 2020 1:25 AM

Shut your mouth. Werewolf doesn't move you? : - (

by Anonymousreply 27September 18, 2020 1:34 AM

I love her. she's the emotional sentimental kind of batshit crazy part of my brain.

by Anonymousreply 28September 18, 2020 1:42 AM

Afraid it doesn't R27.

And how can I kiss you if I shut my mouth? 😘😉

by Anonymousreply 29September 18, 2020 1:49 AM

She has no appeal. Mediocre. Even her surname is fake.

by Anonymousreply 30September 18, 2020 1:52 AM

Anyone remember when she called Chris Rock a "burnt match" on Howard Stern? Yikes.

She's a Lens Dunham type. I don't get the love for her.

by Anonymousreply 31September 18, 2020 2:47 AM

Chris Rock called her "Fiona X" after her acceptance speech at the VMA awards. She has no sense of humor about herself. She's a lot of drama.

by Anonymousreply 32September 18, 2020 5:55 AM

R32, she’s the kind of crazy woman I love — from a distance. Like Sinead O’Connor and Roseanne and Sandra Bernhard and Little Edie.

by Anonymousreply 33September 18, 2020 8:25 PM

Chris Rock saying this week that Democrats brought on the pandemic because of the impeachment trial so fuck him.

by Anonymousreply 34September 18, 2020 8:38 PM

To borrow a phrase from my German friends, Chris Rock hat ein Gesicht wie ein Feuermelder.

Or in other words, he has a really punchable face.

by Anonymousreply 35September 18, 2020 9:24 PM

I don't like him either, but still, her using a racial slur is curious since she likes to act like some sort of moral arbiter (very Rose McGowan). She's always seemed kind of sleazy to me.

by Anonymousreply 36September 18, 2020 9:34 PM

Meh. A flash in the pan '90s "singer". Pouty lips and anorexic body.

by Anonymousreply 37September 18, 2020 10:12 PM

Her best song is Cornflake Girl.

by Anonymousreply 38September 18, 2020 10:24 PM

Underplayed song

by Anonymousreply 39October 7, 2020 2:10 AM

The only Fiona Apple song I know is Container from the show The Affair.

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by Anonymousreply 40October 7, 2020 2:18 AM

Are we STILL talking about this has-been beyotch???!

by Anonymousreply 41October 8, 2020 3:45 PM

r21, in her vanity sized muumuu, is Chris Christie fat and has lost any frame of reference for what a healthy weight actually looks like.

by Anonymousreply 42October 8, 2020 4:01 PM

What is it with DL and all these threads promoting has been music acts?

by Anonymousreply 43October 8, 2020 4:43 PM

Huh, R42? What a strange comment!

by Anonymousreply 44October 8, 2020 8:52 PM

[quote] that I can actually imagine Sandra Bernhard performing this song during her stand up. I don't know what that's about, and I don't even like her singing, but I can see her doing it.

Sandra actually did bring up Fiona and Alanis types in one of her standup routines. She sang Heart instead to compare real rock angst. She thought Alanis and Fiona were just annoying,

by Anonymousreply 45October 8, 2020 9:42 PM

R43 you said it sistah! Fingers crossed this site becomes Trump and Coronavirus threads 24/7.

by Anonymousreply 46October 8, 2020 10:33 PM

Interesting R45, thanks for sharing! I have to disagree with her though, can't stand Heart, would much prefer to listen to Fiona (who I really like) or Alanis (who's first album I have fond memories of).

by Anonymousreply 47October 9, 2020 12:36 AM

R47, FU. Heart is awesome and Fiona is a silly anorexic twat.

by Anonymousreply 48October 9, 2020 3:46 AM

I wonder if her fat dyke roommate who spends all day searching her name on twitter is reading this thread.

by Anonymousreply 49October 9, 2020 3:52 AM

Damn, Natalie, that's harsh! I still like "Torn" and I even like "Big Mistake". 😘 Memories of high school!

by Anonymousreply 50October 9, 2020 4:40 AM

"Wrong Impression" qualifies Natalie Imbruglia as a two-hit wonder.

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by Anonymousreply 51October 9, 2020 4:47 AM

"Heavy Balloon" is my favourite song of the year so far.

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by Anonymousreply 52October 9, 2020 5:56 PM

With Fetch the Bolt Cutters being released this very year to critical acclaim, Fiona can hardly be considered a "has been", R43.

by Anonymousreply 53October 10, 2020 4:54 AM

I love the massive Studer 24 track analog recorder (if that's video of the actual Shadowboxer session.) Many of them now reside in landfills, sadly.

by Anonymousreply 54October 10, 2020 5:07 AM
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