I assume that Thomasine was forced to have sex with the goat as part of her initiation? It was all the fault of that bitch mother of hers.
I pronounced it the VVitch and was laughed at by my family. I’ve never recovered.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | September 16, 2020 11:59 PM |
We just called it The Bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | September 17, 2020 12:05 AM |
This is a really good and really fucked up film.
It's one of my favorites. The Lighthouse , on the other hand, is a visual gut punch but a little too intense. At least for me.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | September 17, 2020 12:17 AM |
****SPOILER*****
I love that it did not depend on CGI/jump scare (dream within a dream)bullshit. There really was a VVitch, she really did steal and cut up a baby to make flying ointment. There really was a devil.
The mother was overwhelmingly intimidated by Thomasine's budding sexuality, blaming her and calling her proud slut. She'd make a great Republican woman.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | September 17, 2020 12:24 AM |
Tell me about The Lighthouse.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | September 17, 2020 12:25 AM |
I saw the ending from a mile away, but "The VVitch" is beautifully written, designed, acted, and filmed. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | September 17, 2020 12:26 AM |
[Quote] I assume that Thomasine was forced to have sex with the goat as part of her initiation?
I didn't even think of that 😧
by Anonymous | reply 8 | September 17, 2020 12:46 PM |
She either had to screw Black Phillip while it was in animal form, or after it changed into a man. This is the actor who played Black Phillip as a man.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | September 17, 2020 3:16 PM |
R9 the voice matches the face for once.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | September 17, 2020 11:03 PM |
I barely remember this movie but I didnt really get it.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | September 17, 2020 11:17 PM |
I seriously thought I dreamt this movie up
by Anonymous | reply 12 | September 17, 2020 11:21 PM |
I think the annoying little kids ended up in that black mass cauldron. Plenty of flight ointment to go around.
Was the ugly witch doing sexual stuff to the goat right before she killed the kids?
by Anonymous | reply 13 | September 17, 2020 11:22 PM |
Maybe I need to watch it again. I dont remember that scene at all.!
by Anonymous | reply 15 | September 17, 2020 11:35 PM |
The Witch and Get Out are two of the most overrated horror films in the past few years. You can see the plot points coming from a mile away.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | September 17, 2020 11:48 PM |
It's refreshing they didn't use fucking CGI, or left the ending ambiguous. To each their own, but I really liked it.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | September 17, 2020 11:55 PM |
Puritans believed witches needed the fat of infants to make their flying ointment, not small children. So the twins probably just ended up as something like stew meat instead.
Black Philip is of course the Devil, so he can take many guises: as man, as goat, as something in-between, as a cat... whatever. I just assumed Thomasin had sex with him in one of his forms or another. It probably was something both degrading and sexy for her.
If you missed "The Witch," here's the Black Philip trailer to give you a sense of how creepy he was. He really had tons of personality for an animal actor.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | September 18, 2020 12:08 AM |
I loved this movie!
by Anonymous | reply 19 | September 18, 2020 12:19 AM |
I thought it was any unbaptized child. For the flying cream.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | September 18, 2020 12:32 AM |
R14 is that the scene with her mother and the bird???
by Anonymous | reply 21 | September 18, 2020 12:35 AM |
Yes. Her older son, who just died, comes to her to make her sign the devil's book. It's a sealed deal after she lets the raven suckle.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | September 18, 2020 12:41 AM |
When Thomasine was floating in the air, it is said she was having her first orgasm.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | September 18, 2020 12:46 AM |
Could someone explain this movie because I don't remember any of this shit. Was her mother a witch?
Trying to think back if I was drunk while watching this.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | September 18, 2020 4:04 PM |
[Quote] Was her mother a witch?
No she wasn't.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | September 18, 2020 8:02 PM |
I liked this, but The Lighthouse not so much.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | September 18, 2020 8:03 PM |
I saw it as a metaphor for a teenage girl wanting to escape her mother's dreary life so she could live in beauty and luxury.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | September 18, 2020 8:09 PM |
But that's the thing, she wasn't going to live in beauty and luxury. She was on her way to ending up like the old, ugly, naked women at the sabbath. She would have to scrounge for food and steal babies to be able to fly for a night. "Seeing the world" would mean traveling as an animal or naked on a broom. But she would always have to come back to her dreary home in the woods, desperately seeking new recruit. Sounds fucking boring to me.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | September 19, 2020 5:08 AM |
But she got to wear a pretty dress, and enjoy the taste of butter!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | September 19, 2020 6:37 AM |
No, There will be no pretty dress or fucking butter. Those bitches were, for the most part, naked as the day they were born. Their food consisted of sucking bloody milk from a random goat. Thomasine totally got fucked.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | September 19, 2020 6:46 AM |
The last scene (the mass) is unintentionally funny. There is a witch that is wiggling her hips while violently shaking her fists in the air. She does this dance the entire scene. .
by Anonymous | reply 31 | September 19, 2020 8:26 AM |
That was a witches' black mass--I'm not sure they always dress like that.
But in any case, if the Devil didn't follow through on his part of the contract then Thomasin can renege on hers.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | September 19, 2020 4:10 PM |
I don't know, R28, those levitating witches at the black mass look pretty good to me!
by Anonymous | reply 33 | September 19, 2020 5:25 PM |
Were the twins really talking to the devil or did they make it up? Were they possessed or evil?
Too much incest all around in this overrated movie.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | September 19, 2020 5:41 PM |
I’d like to live deliciously
by Anonymous | reply 35 | September 19, 2020 6:05 PM |
No one has to be "forced" to have sex with a goat.
It's usually the goat that has to be persuaded.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | September 19, 2020 6:06 PM |
Black Phillip was hot when it turned into a man. I'd hit it.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | September 19, 2020 8:54 PM |
r37, you saw neither his face nor his body--only his fully clothed body from the neck down,with the only skin exposed being his hands.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | September 19, 2020 9:52 PM |
His face was absolutely shown when he was behind the proud slut.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | September 19, 2020 9:58 PM |
freaked me out
by Anonymous | reply 40 | September 19, 2020 10:01 PM |
Have you seen the actor who portrayed the human Black Phillip? Smoking hot. The devil isn't going to be unattractive when he is trying to seduce his prey. He would have been fully visible to Thomasine. (You can see his face and he is attractive.)
by Anonymous | reply 41 | September 19, 2020 10:01 PM |
Bend over, datalounge! You proud sluts!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | September 19, 2020 10:02 PM |
I need to rewatch this. I must've been drunk during my 1st watch.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | September 19, 2020 10:08 PM |
Satan is very well hung.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | September 19, 2020 10:10 PM |
The teen boy's lust is what did him in. The witch got to him.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | September 19, 2020 10:12 PM |
Was the boy also the hunting dancer boy in Halloween 2018?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | September 19, 2020 10:12 PM |
Yes, R41. But then some of us actually read the thread.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | September 19, 2020 10:20 PM |
"Satan is very well hung."
You bet thy ass he was!
by Anonymous | reply 48 | September 19, 2020 10:20 PM |
I dont remember seeing his face either.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | September 19, 2020 10:25 PM |
I watched it last night. His face is clearly seen behind the proud slut.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | September 19, 2020 10:26 PM |
These two little assholes were annoying. You're almost relieved at the end of the film when they become witch stew.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | September 19, 2020 10:34 PM |
Here's a poor resolution copy in a foreign language on YouTube, and you can clearly see Black Phillip's hot sexy manly nose.
His face is much clearer in HD.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | September 19, 2020 10:35 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 53 | September 19, 2020 10:36 PM |
In that scene, I love the way the goat is all, "step into my office, young lady."
by Anonymous | reply 54 | September 19, 2020 10:47 PM |
Not scary. Impossible to understand without subtitles. But atmosphere up the wazoo.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | September 19, 2020 10:54 PM |
I loved it in theaters but it definitely helped having subtitles when it came to Bluray R55
by Anonymous | reply 56 | September 19, 2020 11:01 PM |
Too bad he didn't show butt like Luke Cook did for Sabrina.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | September 19, 2020 11:36 PM |
Excuse me. The dad was plenty naked in the film. He's no Black Phillip, but still a nice view.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | September 19, 2020 11:44 PM |
But what would've Thomasine's alternative? A poor peasant woman who has to marry to get someone to take care of her and the farm. Or be an outcast as a common whore. Witchcraft is always made out as life as an independent woman. And their Sabbath was their Michfest. All that was missing was a vagina cape.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | September 19, 2020 11:47 PM |
She would have to fuck roots and sticks and limbs. That's no better than being a whore.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | September 19, 2020 11:51 PM |
She could have walked back to her village and begged for forgiveness. She could have gone on to serve the family her parents were talking abut. She could have tried to make it work. But that sexy muthafucka Black Phillip made her into his whore.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | September 19, 2020 11:54 PM |
What the fuck are you talking about? Why would she be fucking sticks and roots? She's not some out of control whore or proud slut.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | September 19, 2020 11:56 PM |
Some witches fucked themselves with roots and sticks as part of nature rituals.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | September 19, 2020 11:58 PM |
Some women just have a thing for bad guys who also sometimes look like goats.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | September 19, 2020 11:58 PM |
R63 I've never heard of that. Are you sure they don't just cook these things?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | September 20, 2020 12:04 AM |
After the honeymoon is over, Thomasine will have to blow this for the rest of her days. Eww.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | September 20, 2020 12:11 AM |
The movie was atmospheric as hell and the goat was spooky. I didn’t hate the ending either. However, I have definitely enjoyed this thread more than I did the film. The Black Phillip jokes have me cracking up.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | September 20, 2020 12:11 AM |
What exactly does it mean to "live deliciously?"
by Anonymous | reply 68 | September 20, 2020 5:04 AM |
I think it’s living fancy. Basically the kind of life Britney describes in Work Bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | September 20, 2020 5:05 AM |
Another amazing witch movie featuring proud skits and a hot hot but unattractive devil.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | September 20, 2020 5:07 AM |
Here’s the devil being a fucking perv suggestively churning butter
by Anonymous | reply 71 | September 20, 2020 5:09 AM |
Thomasine would never touch that disgusting creature, r71. If that's what she would see in the barn, she'd say fuck this shit and take her chances with the woods.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | September 20, 2020 5:16 AM |
The film’s distributor A24 has a mostly pristine record and this one is no exception.
“Midsommar” had the same wonderful sense of dread throughout.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | September 20, 2020 5:21 AM |
Yeah I’d duck human Black Phillip but not the butter churning devil.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | September 20, 2020 5:34 AM |
Black Phillip, upon further research, is Canadian and gorgeous.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | September 20, 2020 5:38 AM |
Don't you want to live deliciously, r75, you proud slut?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | September 20, 2020 5:39 AM |
Overrated.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | September 20, 2020 6:33 AM |
These were puritans, no? They're supposed to be extremely uptight about sex and nudity. So why, then, did Thomasin rip her clothes off in front of a stranger so easily? Black Phiilip wasn't even done asking before her dress was flying off. Granted, she did live alongside the goat, but not in it's human form.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | September 20, 2020 7:08 AM |
Because she was rebelling against her culture as a teenager and was enchanted by a witch?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | September 20, 2020 7:19 AM |
A story as old as time itself. Raging hormonal teenager, feeling suffocated by her conservative upbringing, looks for an alternative place and a community to fit in either with self empowering or disastrous result.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | September 20, 2020 7:25 AM |
"Yeah I’d duck human Black Phillip"
I love the way you put "human" in front of Black Phillip, as if we're going to think you want to fuck a goat.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | September 20, 2020 7:26 AM |
like keegan!
by Anonymous | reply 83 | September 20, 2020 7:26 AM |
r82, after lockdown and social distancing I think a lot of DLers would say YUM! to a goat which presents hole.
But guys, don't do it. It's the DEVIL!
by Anonymous | reply 85 | September 20, 2020 7:30 AM |
FFS, persuade, not pursued.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | September 20, 2020 7:32 AM |
I don't think Datalounge users are into living THAT deliciously.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | September 20, 2020 7:35 AM |
R88 there's a Wiccan/Wizard or two on here.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | September 20, 2020 9:09 AM |
that talks to themselves!
by Anonymous | reply 89 | September 20, 2020 12:12 PM |
The only thing I dreaded about Midsommar was the thought that it would never end, R74.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | September 20, 2020 12:46 PM |
Speaking of hot devils, I’m rewatching CARNIVÀLE, and the seminarian - played by Clancy Brown - who is secretly a murderous rapist Antichrist? Uncomfortably sexy.
Though I still prefer a sweaty mud-covered hillbilly Nick Stahl dressed in his rags.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | September 20, 2020 1:10 PM |
To room with the Keebler elves, R68.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | September 20, 2020 1:22 PM |
I would think it would be uncomfortable to ride a broom. Especially if the flying ointment gave out mid-flight. You'd be literally fucked.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | September 20, 2020 9:23 PM |
That's the point. They like riding the stick. Wanton witches.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | September 20, 2020 9:28 PM |
Riding a stick is one thing, being impaled another.
This movie is destined to become a classic. All because of black phillip.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | September 20, 2020 9:34 PM |
I think I must watch it again.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | September 20, 2020 9:43 PM |
Me too R96. I was either drunk or was interrupted a lot. I remember a black goat but no goat fucking or baby stew.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | September 20, 2020 9:47 PM |
Black Phillip doesn't present hole, you fools. He plugs holes.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | September 20, 2020 9:55 PM |
[R82], after lockdown and social distancing I think a lot of DLers would say YUM! to a goat which presents hole.
But guys, don't do it. It's the DEVIL!
Do not make an unholy bond with a goat!
by Anonymous | reply 99 | September 20, 2020 9:57 PM |
It did freak me out the first time.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | September 20, 2020 10:04 PM |
Would you like to toil and starve and work and serve and pray, all for a patriarchal dick be it dad or husband, who treats you like a slave- or do whatever you fucking want in the woods without fear of any man, fly occasionally and fuck hot man Black Phillip once a month? It's about Freedom.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | September 20, 2020 10:11 PM |
Fucked once a month is a deal breaker. I would need hot man Black Phillip at least three times a day.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | September 20, 2020 10:18 PM |
saggy ass witch
by Anonymous | reply 103 | September 20, 2020 10:31 PM |
It’s so weird to imagine that if you’re of European ancestry your ancestors were actually concerned with shit like this happening.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | September 20, 2020 11:02 PM |
Religion is still being used to oppress people who don't fall in line. Spectral evidence was banned, otherwise these right wing nutobs would have us all killed. (Mary!)
by Anonymous | reply 105 | September 20, 2020 11:29 PM |
R104 - I had that exact thought!
I have witch accuser ancestors...would they have been secretly lusting after Black Phillip? Did they want to live deliciously?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | September 20, 2020 11:33 PM |
r106, your ancestors were proud sluts.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | September 20, 2020 11:47 PM |
I liked "The Witch" but it wasn't a movie for everyone. If you like horror movies with lots of gore, sex, jump scares, vampires, zombies and psycho killers, then this is not the movie for you. This movie is much more subtle and unsettling. And although it doesn't have buckets of blood and jump scares, it does contain some really ghastly things; a baby cut up to be used for witch ointment, a boy getting seduced by a hag in the disguise of a beautiful young woman, a raven gnawing a woman's nipple. And there's this heavy sense of dread, of doom, that permeates though out the entire film. In before the bizarre stuff starts it's a horrible situation: a family cast out from other people, attempting to create a life in a remote area, poverty-stricken, with little between them and starvation. It was an interesting movie but it just made you feel BAD.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | September 20, 2020 11:57 PM |
I felt bad for the girl. Hated by her mother, used by the father, lusted after by her brother, and tortured by her younger siblings. She was ripe for the picking. It was good to see her smiling and laughing at the end.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | September 21, 2020 12:04 AM |
R109, your comment made me remember my favorite review of this film, published in Vulture:
[quote]At the end of the day — i.e., the witching hour — The Witch is surprisingly straightforward. In its Puritan framework, a woman expiates her original sin through harsh self-denial or she dances with the devil.
[quote]...To my taste, the movie finally feels rather one-dimensional, basic. But there’s no disputing its awful power — it gets under your skin — and the insane release you feel when Thomasin’s damnation becomes her liberation, when Anya Taylor-Joy’s ethereally spaced eyes fall on sights that are worthy of them.
As a lesbian who grew up in an isolated evangelical community — my church believed in Satan, in hell, in demonic possession, in modern-day witchcraft, etc. — I was genuinely moved by the ending of The Witch. Damnation as liberation is, I suspect, a familiar concept to a lot of us on DL.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | September 21, 2020 3:24 AM |
I wish I could lighten the picture up better.
Subtitles help but some scenes are too hard to see.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | September 22, 2020 7:09 PM |
Are you talking about the when she gives herself over to Black Phillip?
by Anonymous | reply 112 | September 23, 2020 12:19 AM |
God I hated working in that fucking film, all the bullshit tension on set. I don’t roll that way, personally.
I’m glad to have met Anya though and consider her a friend. No, we didn’t copulate. Anyway, I thought you homosexuals would enjoy these tidbits, know you enjoy Hollywood gossip. Peace out. Rest in power, RBG.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | September 23, 2020 12:43 AM |
Have you gone blond, Phil? Bold move!
by Anonymous | reply 114 | September 23, 2020 2:51 AM |
Black Phillip sent the father actor to the ER 3 times!
by Anonymous | reply 115 | September 23, 2020 2:56 AM |
Here I am, preparing to show these brats what I really think about their Black Phillip song.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | September 23, 2020 5:18 AM |
Well, r115, surprise anal will sometimes do that.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | September 23, 2020 5:32 AM |
I made the mistake of coming here to read about the movie before watching which normally wouldn't be problematic but throw in a talking goat with indulgent tastes and all the atmospheric buildup is gone. Gets right comedic at that point.
And WTF is up with that actress and the deranged breast feeding!?!? Not sure if Robin (GoTs) or the crow was more cringey.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | September 23, 2020 12:53 PM |
The breastfeeding scene was bloody disgusting and disturbing. The raven is not just sucking her breast, it's biting off her nipple and eating it. Bitch just sits there and laughs.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | October 15, 2020 7:36 AM |
R119, that's what makes it "spooky."
by Anonymous | reply 120 | October 15, 2020 8:27 AM |
R120 and all together ooky.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | October 15, 2020 10:16 AM |
That is one sick bitch if she was enjoying that.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | October 15, 2020 2:53 PM |