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The Witch (2015)

I assume that Thomasine was forced to have sex with the goat as part of her initiation? It was all the fault of that bitch mother of hers.

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by Anonymousreply 122October 15, 2020 2:53 PM

I pronounced it the VVitch and was laughed at by my family. I’ve never recovered.

by Anonymousreply 1September 16, 2020 11:59 PM

We just called it The Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 2September 17, 2020 12:05 AM

This is a really good and really fucked up film.

It's one of my favorites. The Lighthouse , on the other hand, is a visual gut punch but a little too intense. At least for me.

by Anonymousreply 3September 17, 2020 12:17 AM

****SPOILER*****

I love that it did not depend on CGI/jump scare (dream within a dream)bullshit. There really was a VVitch, she really did steal and cut up a baby to make flying ointment. There really was a devil.

The mother was overwhelmingly intimidated by Thomasine's budding sexuality, blaming her and calling her proud slut. She'd make a great Republican woman.

by Anonymousreply 4September 17, 2020 12:24 AM

Tell me about The Lighthouse.

by Anonymousreply 5September 17, 2020 12:25 AM

I saw the ending from a mile away, but "The VVitch" is beautifully written, designed, acted, and filmed. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

by Anonymousreply 6September 17, 2020 12:26 AM

Black Phillip fucked her up the ass.

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by Anonymousreply 7September 17, 2020 12:29 AM

[Quote] I assume that Thomasine was forced to have sex with the goat as part of her initiation?

I didn't even think of that 😧

by Anonymousreply 8September 17, 2020 12:46 PM

She either had to screw Black Phillip while it was in animal form, or after it changed into a man. This is the actor who played Black Phillip as a man.

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by Anonymousreply 9September 17, 2020 3:16 PM

R9 the voice matches the face for once.

by Anonymousreply 10September 17, 2020 11:03 PM

I barely remember this movie but I didnt really get it.

by Anonymousreply 11September 17, 2020 11:17 PM

I seriously thought I dreamt this movie up

by Anonymousreply 12September 17, 2020 11:21 PM

I think the annoying little kids ended up in that black mass cauldron. Plenty of flight ointment to go around.

Was the ugly witch doing sexual stuff to the goat right before she killed the kids?

by Anonymousreply 13September 17, 2020 11:22 PM

This scene disturbed me. Bad.

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by Anonymousreply 14September 17, 2020 11:32 PM

Maybe I need to watch it again. I dont remember that scene at all.!

by Anonymousreply 15September 17, 2020 11:35 PM

The Witch and Get Out are two of the most overrated horror films in the past few years. You can see the plot points coming from a mile away.

by Anonymousreply 16September 17, 2020 11:48 PM

It's refreshing they didn't use fucking CGI, or left the ending ambiguous. To each their own, but I really liked it.

by Anonymousreply 17September 17, 2020 11:55 PM

Puritans believed witches needed the fat of infants to make their flying ointment, not small children. So the twins probably just ended up as something like stew meat instead.

Black Philip is of course the Devil, so he can take many guises: as man, as goat, as something in-between, as a cat... whatever. I just assumed Thomasin had sex with him in one of his forms or another. It probably was something both degrading and sexy for her.

If you missed "The Witch," here's the Black Philip trailer to give you a sense of how creepy he was. He really had tons of personality for an animal actor.

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by Anonymousreply 18September 18, 2020 12:08 AM

I loved this movie!

by Anonymousreply 19September 18, 2020 12:19 AM

I thought it was any unbaptized child. For the flying cream.

by Anonymousreply 20September 18, 2020 12:32 AM

R14 is that the scene with her mother and the bird???

by Anonymousreply 21September 18, 2020 12:35 AM

Yes. Her older son, who just died, comes to her to make her sign the devil's book. It's a sealed deal after she lets the raven suckle.

by Anonymousreply 22September 18, 2020 12:41 AM

When Thomasine was floating in the air, it is said she was having her first orgasm.

by Anonymousreply 23September 18, 2020 12:46 AM

Could someone explain this movie because I don't remember any of this shit. Was her mother a witch?

Trying to think back if I was drunk while watching this.

by Anonymousreply 24September 18, 2020 4:04 PM

[Quote] Was her mother a witch?

No she wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 25September 18, 2020 8:02 PM

I liked this, but The Lighthouse not so much.

by Anonymousreply 26September 18, 2020 8:03 PM

I saw it as a metaphor for a teenage girl wanting to escape her mother's dreary life so she could live in beauty and luxury.

by Anonymousreply 27September 18, 2020 8:09 PM

But that's the thing, she wasn't going to live in beauty and luxury. She was on her way to ending up like the old, ugly, naked women at the sabbath. She would have to scrounge for food and steal babies to be able to fly for a night. "Seeing the world" would mean traveling as an animal or naked on a broom. But she would always have to come back to her dreary home in the woods, desperately seeking new recruit. Sounds fucking boring to me.

by Anonymousreply 28September 19, 2020 5:08 AM

But she got to wear a pretty dress, and enjoy the taste of butter!

by Anonymousreply 29September 19, 2020 6:37 AM

No, There will be no pretty dress or fucking butter. Those bitches were, for the most part, naked as the day they were born. Their food consisted of sucking bloody milk from a random goat. Thomasine totally got fucked.

by Anonymousreply 30September 19, 2020 6:46 AM

The last scene (the mass) is unintentionally funny. There is a witch that is wiggling her hips while violently shaking her fists in the air. She does this dance the entire scene. .

by Anonymousreply 31September 19, 2020 8:26 AM

That was a witches' black mass--I'm not sure they always dress like that.

But in any case, if the Devil didn't follow through on his part of the contract then Thomasin can renege on hers.

by Anonymousreply 32September 19, 2020 4:10 PM

I don't know, R28, those levitating witches at the black mass look pretty good to me!

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by Anonymousreply 33September 19, 2020 5:25 PM

Were the twins really talking to the devil or did they make it up? Were they possessed or evil?

Too much incest all around in this overrated movie.

by Anonymousreply 34September 19, 2020 5:41 PM

I’d like to live deliciously

by Anonymousreply 35September 19, 2020 6:05 PM

No one has to be "forced" to have sex with a goat.

It's usually the goat that has to be persuaded.

by Anonymousreply 36September 19, 2020 6:06 PM

Black Phillip was hot when it turned into a man. I'd hit it.

by Anonymousreply 37September 19, 2020 8:54 PM

r37, you saw neither his face nor his body--only his fully clothed body from the neck down,with the only skin exposed being his hands.

by Anonymousreply 38September 19, 2020 9:52 PM

His face was absolutely shown when he was behind the proud slut.

by Anonymousreply 39September 19, 2020 9:58 PM

freaked me out

by Anonymousreply 40September 19, 2020 10:01 PM

Have you seen the actor who portrayed the human Black Phillip? Smoking hot. The devil isn't going to be unattractive when he is trying to seduce his prey. He would have been fully visible to Thomasine. (You can see his face and he is attractive.)

by Anonymousreply 41September 19, 2020 10:01 PM

Bend over, datalounge! You proud sluts!

by Anonymousreply 42September 19, 2020 10:02 PM

I need to rewatch this. I must've been drunk during my 1st watch.

by Anonymousreply 43September 19, 2020 10:08 PM

Satan is very well hung.

by Anonymousreply 44September 19, 2020 10:10 PM

The teen boy's lust is what did him in. The witch got to him.

by Anonymousreply 45September 19, 2020 10:12 PM

Was the boy also the hunting dancer boy in Halloween 2018?

by Anonymousreply 46September 19, 2020 10:12 PM

Yes, R41. But then some of us actually read the thread.

by Anonymousreply 47September 19, 2020 10:20 PM

"Satan is very well hung."

You bet thy ass he was!

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by Anonymousreply 48September 19, 2020 10:20 PM

I dont remember seeing his face either.

by Anonymousreply 49September 19, 2020 10:25 PM

I watched it last night. His face is clearly seen behind the proud slut.

by Anonymousreply 50September 19, 2020 10:26 PM

These two little assholes were annoying. You're almost relieved at the end of the film when they become witch stew.

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by Anonymousreply 51September 19, 2020 10:34 PM

Here's a poor resolution copy in a foreign language on YouTube, and you can clearly see Black Phillip's hot sexy manly nose.

His face is much clearer in HD.

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by Anonymousreply 52September 19, 2020 10:35 PM
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by Anonymousreply 53September 19, 2020 10:36 PM

In that scene, I love the way the goat is all, "step into my office, young lady."

by Anonymousreply 54September 19, 2020 10:47 PM

Not scary. Impossible to understand without subtitles. But atmosphere up the wazoo.

by Anonymousreply 55September 19, 2020 10:54 PM

I loved it in theaters but it definitely helped having subtitles when it came to Bluray R55

by Anonymousreply 56September 19, 2020 11:01 PM

Too bad he didn't show butt like Luke Cook did for Sabrina.

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by Anonymousreply 57September 19, 2020 11:36 PM

Excuse me. The dad was plenty naked in the film. He's no Black Phillip, but still a nice view.

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by Anonymousreply 58September 19, 2020 11:44 PM

But what would've Thomasine's alternative? A poor peasant woman who has to marry to get someone to take care of her and the farm. Or be an outcast as a common whore. Witchcraft is always made out as life as an independent woman. And their Sabbath was their Michfest. All that was missing was a vagina cape.

by Anonymousreply 59September 19, 2020 11:47 PM

She would have to fuck roots and sticks and limbs. That's no better than being a whore.

by Anonymousreply 60September 19, 2020 11:51 PM

She could have walked back to her village and begged for forgiveness. She could have gone on to serve the family her parents were talking abut. She could have tried to make it work. But that sexy muthafucka Black Phillip made her into his whore.

by Anonymousreply 61September 19, 2020 11:54 PM

What the fuck are you talking about? Why would she be fucking sticks and roots? She's not some out of control whore or proud slut.

by Anonymousreply 62September 19, 2020 11:56 PM

Some witches fucked themselves with roots and sticks as part of nature rituals.

by Anonymousreply 63September 19, 2020 11:58 PM

Some women just have a thing for bad guys who also sometimes look like goats.

by Anonymousreply 64September 19, 2020 11:58 PM

R63 I've never heard of that. Are you sure they don't just cook these things?

by Anonymousreply 65September 20, 2020 12:04 AM

After the honeymoon is over, Thomasine will have to blow this for the rest of her days. Eww.

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by Anonymousreply 66September 20, 2020 12:11 AM

The movie was atmospheric as hell and the goat was spooky. I didn’t hate the ending either. However, I have definitely enjoyed this thread more than I did the film. The Black Phillip jokes have me cracking up.

by Anonymousreply 67September 20, 2020 12:11 AM

What exactly does it mean to "live deliciously?"

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by Anonymousreply 68September 20, 2020 5:04 AM

I think it’s living fancy. Basically the kind of life Britney describes in Work Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 69September 20, 2020 5:05 AM

Another amazing witch movie featuring proud skits and a hot hot but unattractive devil.

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by Anonymousreply 70September 20, 2020 5:07 AM

Here’s the devil being a fucking perv suggestively churning butter

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by Anonymousreply 71September 20, 2020 5:09 AM

We prefer our devils sexy and lean.

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by Anonymousreply 72September 20, 2020 5:11 AM

Thomasine would never touch that disgusting creature, r71. If that's what she would see in the barn, she'd say fuck this shit and take her chances with the woods.

by Anonymousreply 73September 20, 2020 5:16 AM

The film’s distributor A24 has a mostly pristine record and this one is no exception.

“Midsommar” had the same wonderful sense of dread throughout.

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by Anonymousreply 74September 20, 2020 5:21 AM

Yeah I’d duck human Black Phillip but not the butter churning devil.

by Anonymousreply 75September 20, 2020 5:34 AM

Black Phillip, upon further research, is Canadian and gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 76September 20, 2020 5:38 AM

Don't you want to live deliciously, r75, you proud slut?

by Anonymousreply 77September 20, 2020 5:39 AM

Overrated.

by Anonymousreply 78September 20, 2020 6:33 AM

These were puritans, no? They're supposed to be extremely uptight about sex and nudity. So why, then, did Thomasin rip her clothes off in front of a stranger so easily? Black Phiilip wasn't even done asking before her dress was flying off. Granted, she did live alongside the goat, but not in it's human form.

by Anonymousreply 79September 20, 2020 7:08 AM

Because she was rebelling against her culture as a teenager and was enchanted by a witch?

by Anonymousreply 80September 20, 2020 7:19 AM

A story as old as time itself. Raging hormonal teenager, feeling suffocated by her conservative upbringing, looks for an alternative place and a community to fit in either with self empowering or disastrous result.

by Anonymousreply 81September 20, 2020 7:25 AM

"Yeah I’d duck human Black Phillip"

I love the way you put "human" in front of Black Phillip, as if we're going to think you want to fuck a goat.

by Anonymousreply 82September 20, 2020 7:26 AM

like keegan!

by Anonymousreply 83September 20, 2020 7:26 AM

I can pursued anyone...

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by Anonymousreply 84September 20, 2020 7:28 AM

r82, after lockdown and social distancing I think a lot of DLers would say YUM! to a goat which presents hole.

But guys, don't do it. It's the DEVIL!

by Anonymousreply 85September 20, 2020 7:30 AM

FFS, persuade, not pursued.

by Anonymousreply 86September 20, 2020 7:32 AM

I don't think Datalounge users are into living THAT deliciously.

by Anonymousreply 87September 20, 2020 7:35 AM

R88 there's a Wiccan/Wizard or two on here.

by Anonymousreply 88September 20, 2020 9:09 AM

that talks to themselves!

by Anonymousreply 89September 20, 2020 12:12 PM

The only thing I dreaded about Midsommar was the thought that it would never end, R74.

by Anonymousreply 90September 20, 2020 12:46 PM

Speaking of hot devils, I’m rewatching CARNIVÀLE, and the seminarian - played by Clancy Brown - who is secretly a murderous rapist Antichrist? Uncomfortably sexy.

Though I still prefer a sweaty mud-covered hillbilly Nick Stahl dressed in his rags.

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by Anonymousreply 91September 20, 2020 1:10 PM

To room with the Keebler elves, R68.

by Anonymousreply 92September 20, 2020 1:22 PM

I would think it would be uncomfortable to ride a broom. Especially if the flying ointment gave out mid-flight. You'd be literally fucked.

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by Anonymousreply 93September 20, 2020 9:23 PM

That's the point. They like riding the stick. Wanton witches.

by Anonymousreply 94September 20, 2020 9:28 PM

Riding a stick is one thing, being impaled another.

This movie is destined to become a classic. All because of black phillip.

by Anonymousreply 95September 20, 2020 9:34 PM

I think I must watch it again.

by Anonymousreply 96September 20, 2020 9:43 PM

Me too R96. I was either drunk or was interrupted a lot. I remember a black goat but no goat fucking or baby stew.

by Anonymousreply 97September 20, 2020 9:47 PM

Black Phillip doesn't present hole, you fools. He plugs holes.

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by Anonymousreply 98September 20, 2020 9:55 PM

[R82], after lockdown and social distancing I think a lot of DLers would say YUM! to a goat which presents hole.

But guys, don't do it. It's the DEVIL!

Do not make an unholy bond with a goat!

by Anonymousreply 99September 20, 2020 9:57 PM

It did freak me out the first time.

by Anonymousreply 100September 20, 2020 10:04 PM

Would you like to toil and starve and work and serve and pray, all for a patriarchal dick be it dad or husband, who treats you like a slave- or do whatever you fucking want in the woods without fear of any man, fly occasionally and fuck hot man Black Phillip once a month? It's about Freedom.

by Anonymousreply 101September 20, 2020 10:11 PM

Fucked once a month is a deal breaker. I would need hot man Black Phillip at least three times a day.

by Anonymousreply 102September 20, 2020 10:18 PM

saggy ass witch

by Anonymousreply 103September 20, 2020 10:31 PM

It’s so weird to imagine that if you’re of European ancestry your ancestors were actually concerned with shit like this happening.

by Anonymousreply 104September 20, 2020 11:02 PM

Religion is still being used to oppress people who don't fall in line. Spectral evidence was banned, otherwise these right wing nutobs would have us all killed. (Mary!)

by Anonymousreply 105September 20, 2020 11:29 PM

R104 - I had that exact thought!

I have witch accuser ancestors...would they have been secretly lusting after Black Phillip? Did they want to live deliciously?

by Anonymousreply 106September 20, 2020 11:33 PM

r106, your ancestors were proud sluts.

by Anonymousreply 107September 20, 2020 11:47 PM

I liked "The Witch" but it wasn't a movie for everyone. If you like horror movies with lots of gore, sex, jump scares, vampires, zombies and psycho killers, then this is not the movie for you. This movie is much more subtle and unsettling. And although it doesn't have buckets of blood and jump scares, it does contain some really ghastly things; a baby cut up to be used for witch ointment, a boy getting seduced by a hag in the disguise of a beautiful young woman, a raven gnawing a woman's nipple. And there's this heavy sense of dread, of doom, that permeates though out the entire film. In before the bizarre stuff starts it's a horrible situation: a family cast out from other people, attempting to create a life in a remote area, poverty-stricken, with little between them and starvation. It was an interesting movie but it just made you feel BAD.

by Anonymousreply 108September 20, 2020 11:57 PM

I felt bad for the girl. Hated by her mother, used by the father, lusted after by her brother, and tortured by her younger siblings. She was ripe for the picking. It was good to see her smiling and laughing at the end.

by Anonymousreply 109September 21, 2020 12:04 AM

R109, your comment made me remember my favorite review of this film, published in Vulture:

[quote]At the end of the day — i.e., the witching hour — The Witch is surprisingly straightforward. In its Puritan framework, a woman expiates her original sin through harsh self-denial or she dances with the devil.

[quote]...To my taste, the movie finally feels rather one-dimensional, basic. But there’s no disputing its awful power — it gets under your skin — and the insane release you feel when Thomasin’s damnation becomes her liberation, when Anya Taylor-Joy’s ethereally spaced eyes fall on sights that are worthy of them.

As a lesbian who grew up in an isolated evangelical community — my church believed in Satan, in hell, in demonic possession, in modern-day witchcraft, etc. — I was genuinely moved by the ending of The Witch. Damnation as liberation is, I suspect, a familiar concept to a lot of us on DL.

by Anonymousreply 110September 21, 2020 3:24 AM

I wish I could lighten the picture up better.

Subtitles help but some scenes are too hard to see.

by Anonymousreply 111September 22, 2020 7:09 PM

Are you talking about the when she gives herself over to Black Phillip?

by Anonymousreply 112September 23, 2020 12:19 AM

God I hated working in that fucking film, all the bullshit tension on set. I don’t roll that way, personally.

I’m glad to have met Anya though and consider her a friend. No, we didn’t copulate. Anyway, I thought you homosexuals would enjoy these tidbits, know you enjoy Hollywood gossip. Peace out. Rest in power, RBG.

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by Anonymousreply 113September 23, 2020 12:43 AM

Have you gone blond, Phil? Bold move!

by Anonymousreply 114September 23, 2020 2:51 AM

Black Phillip sent the father actor to the ER 3 times!

by Anonymousreply 115September 23, 2020 2:56 AM

Here I am, preparing to show these brats what I really think about their Black Phillip song.

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by Anonymousreply 116September 23, 2020 5:18 AM

Well, r115, surprise anal will sometimes do that.

by Anonymousreply 117September 23, 2020 5:32 AM

I made the mistake of coming here to read about the movie before watching which normally wouldn't be problematic but throw in a talking goat with indulgent tastes and all the atmospheric buildup is gone. Gets right comedic at that point.

And WTF is up with that actress and the deranged breast feeding!?!? Not sure if Robin (GoTs) or the crow was more cringey.

by Anonymousreply 118September 23, 2020 12:53 PM

The breastfeeding scene was bloody disgusting and disturbing. The raven is not just sucking her breast, it's biting off her nipple and eating it. Bitch just sits there and laughs.

by Anonymousreply 119October 15, 2020 7:36 AM

R119, that's what makes it "spooky."

by Anonymousreply 120October 15, 2020 8:27 AM

R120 and all together ooky.

by Anonymousreply 121October 15, 2020 10:16 AM

That is one sick bitch if she was enjoying that.

by Anonymousreply 122October 15, 2020 2:53 PM
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