So the series from Luca Guadagnino is now here.
Anyone watching? The critics were very positive.
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So the series from Luca Guadagnino is now here.
Anyone watching? The critics were very positive.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||9 hours ago|
So are we supposed to think it's cute that a 14 year old seems to have a drinking problem?
Unlike CMBYM, this show isn't afraid of dicks though.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||09/14/2020|
The dicks are a plus.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||09/15/2020|
The dongfulness we all screamed for in CMBYN. Be happy, gays.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||09/15/2020|
The scenes with Fraser and his mother were like Psycho meets Mommy Dearest.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||09/15/2020|
Nobody acted like real people. Dicks were nice though
|by Anonymous||reply 5||09/15/2020|
And here's one of the dicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||09/15/2020|
Watched the first ep. Are kids really this fucking weird these days? I felt the same way after watching Euphoria. And before you ask... yes, I am 98.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||09/15/2020|
Well just like Euphoria, this is TV show, and you need interesting drama or it would be pretty damn boring r7.
Though the characters in Euphoria were supposed be 16-17, our protagonist here is only 14.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||09/15/2020|
Hooray for dongfulness!
|by Anonymous||reply 9||09/15/2020|
Is the Justin Bieber lookalike supposed to be mildly retarded?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||09/15/2020|
Can't Armie have a dongful cameo?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||09/15/2020|
[quote]Is the Justin Bieber lookalike supposed to be mildly retarded?
I don't think the character is, but it certainly came across that way.
I'm hooked by Luca Guadagnino's languid direction, but as R5 said, these characters are totally divorced from reality. The relationship between mother and son is especially bizarre -- a military mom who would allow her son to slap her?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||09/16/2020|
She let him take sips of liquor in the middle of the airport r12, and then allowed him to slap her. It definitely doesn't feel the way that a woman who was able to rise to the top of military would raise her son.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||09/16/2020|
I liked the 1st episode. It was weird but not too distracting. Great cast and "world building". I am interested in seeing what happens next.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||09/16/2020|
Tom Mercier keeps getting hired to go full frontal r6. He was frequently naked in Synonymes
|by Anonymous||reply 15||09/16/2020|
I lol'd hard when he slapped her. Thin slices bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 16||09/16/2020|
Mercier has only two credits to his name, and in both his big, fat dong has been a spectacular feature of his performances.
I loved "Synonyms," BTW.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||09/16/2020|
Where can one see Synonyms?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||Last Sunday at 3:32 PM|
R12/R13 Agreed on being divorced from reality. The Reddit thread on this had posts from military brats who said it was nothing like how life on a base and with military parents actually was/is.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Sunday at 3:45 PM|
It’s not meant to represent every military family but these particular characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Sunday at 3:47 PM|
They don't exist in a void though. Not if you want to pretend to have even a smear of realism.
Mind you, the biggest problem with regards to realism is thinking a solider, even a pedo solider, would be interested in JDG
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Sunday at 4:14 PM|
I'm reposting from the other thread, sue me.
I watched the first episode. Can I get my hour back? WTF was going on? A whole lot of navel gazing and lots of self absorbed annoying people.
Guess I'm not the audience for this nonsense. At least I will admit that. Yet, I find EUPHORIA much more interesting, I care about the characters.
If people are watching this series for attractive performers, there wasn't one. Big deal, they showed cock, who cares. You want to see cock, watch porn. Why endure this?
That annoying fat blond is Martin Scorcese's daughter. I guess nepotism got these people their roles, the lead guy with the crapy hair and the fat blond are both there due to nepotism.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Sunday at 4:58 PM|
SYNONYMS is up for your streaming pleasure on The Criterion Channel. Subscribe!
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Monday at 4:49 AM|
De Italians, dey are so soulful, no? Dey use-ah da sewing machine-ah outdoors-ah!
Now we have-ah da sex dat mean everything and nothing at all-ah.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Monday at 6:41 AM|
The only review I saw was really kinda negative, so I didn't watch.
The fact that there are extensive dicks makes me want to check it out though.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Monday at 6:52 AM|
[quote]Jack Grazer staring at Tom Mercier nude in We Are Who We Are is the best thing to ever happen
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Monday at 7:43 AM|
Skinny and confused white boy who secretly into dicks riding bicycle in Italy... again?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Monday at 11:56 AM|
There's dicks and Kloay Sevenee isn't sucking any of them?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Monday at 12:08 PM|
[quote]There's dicks and Kloay Sevenee isn't sucking any of them?
No, because her character is a married lesbian who dresses like Mary Stuart Masterson in "Some Kind of Wonderful".
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Monday at 12:10 PM|
Oh boy, another chance for me to say I'm...
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Monday at 12:18 PM|
Tonight's episode wasn't as strong as the first one
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Monday at 7:33 PM|
R31 Was there any nudity?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Monday at 7:44 PM|
Is it safe to say that Luca Guadagnino is officially an overrated hack?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Monday at 7:49 PM|
Yes, R33 it's safe to say that, don't forget 'one note'.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Monday at 8:00 PM|
How are the ratings?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Monday at 8:47 PM|
117,000 people watched the first episode on television. That doesn't include streaming, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Monday at 8:54 PM|
A coming of age series? That's gonna be a tough sell on DL in terms of how DLers can relate to it. Dl's eldergays can barely remember what they had for breakfast!
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Monday at 9:28 PM|
Loved the lead being a stupid brat walking on the edge of the bridge only to fall down on the bridge side and scrap his face. Punk.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Monday at 9:31 PM|
I could've sworn that I've read that it was supposed to take place in a different decade, but smartphones are already available?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Monday at 9:33 PM|
[quote]I could've sworn that I've read that it was supposed to take place in a different decade, but smartphones are already available?
Are you confusing this with his other HBO series? IIRC, the director also has yet another series out in addition to this one. That would be three series. I think his series about the two Italian girls has ended.
The director is one note.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Monday at 10:25 PM|
R39 I thought exactly the same thing, glad to know I'm not going mad. R40 what other series? Neither his wiki nor his IDMB mention any other TV series aside from this one.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Monday at 10:38 PM|
It was going to take place in the 80s. I guess that got scraped
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Monday at 11:40 PM|
I wonder if the military refusing to let them use the military base meant an increase in production costs and to offset that they had to drop the 80s element.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Yesterday at 1:07 AM|
Actually let's all take a moment to reflect on the stupidity on everyone involved in the pre-production of this that they actually thought the military would agree to cooperate on this show with a storyline of a solider falling for a 15 year old.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Yesterday at 2:33 AM|
Another boring hour except this time no dicks
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Yesterday at 3:30 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Yesterday at 3:33 AM|
r46 No, but menstrual blood
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Yesterday at 3:38 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Yesterday at 3:43 AM|
I kind of liked the first episode. That kid in those fucking ugly short...I can't unsee that. Chloe is really bringing the butch..I like it.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Yesterday at 4:15 AM|
R36 is that good?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||Yesterday at 4:21 AM|
Having served in the military (overseas too), I seriously doubt filming on a military post was ever an option. While the Pentagon provides advisors and allows service members to serve as extras, filming on a military base is a no-go.
I haven't watched because I usually can't stand coming of age stories. I hope the comment about a soldier falling for the 14 year old protagonist is just a joke. Is the director that obsessed with the idea of fucking young teenagers?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Yesterday at 4:26 AM|
Thanks, R36. Those ratings are not good.
R40, you're thinking of My Brilliant Friend, the series based on Elena Ferrante's novels. Luca Guadagnino isn't connected to that show.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Yesterday at 4:39 AM|
R51 Variety reported:
[quote]Production was meant to start earlier but ran into a snag when the U.S. Defense Department refused permission to shoot at the Caserma Ederle U.S. military base in Vicenza, northern Italy, after reading the script, sources said. That forced shooting to relocate to a former center for migrants in Padua, which has become a stand-in for the U.S. army base.
Not saying you're wrong, it's entirely possible it was never going to happen and the script being the problem is just a story made up by the source. However it causing a production delay suggests that the producers, at least, thought they'd be filming on the base.
And yes, it rather seems he is obsessed with it. I'm genuinely dreading his Lord of the Flies because of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Yesterday at 4:46 AM|
For comparison, the first episode of The Third Day, which precedes We Are Who We Are on Monday nights, garnered 207,000 viewers to WAWWA's 117,000. HBO's Lovecraft Country is averaging 750,000 viewers. HBO's Perry Mason averaged 937,000 viewers.
These are all first-night ratings -- no streaming, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Yesterday at 4:48 AM|
R54 lovecraft and perry mason are Sunday night shows while the third day and the show is Monday night. Sunday ones generally gets more viewers. Also those other three are clearly targeting an older, cable viewing demographic while this show is targeting younger streaming audiences. Not saying the television viewing numbers weren't low, but it needs some context.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Yesterday at 7:27 AM|
If I remember correctly Euphoria's first season, also an HBO show, did pretty great (word-of-mouth) and back then it was considered a big gamble since HBO isn't know to be a youth demographic magnet. And just yesterday Zendaya won an award for her leading role on Euphoria.
So far I like We Are Who We Are.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Yesterday at 7:31 AM|
Euphoria averaged 560,000 viewers in its first run -- but when all the streaming and replay numbers were factored in, viewership was 10x that: 5.6 million.
In comparison, according to Hollywood Reporter, Big Little Lies' multiplatform audience of 10 million for season two was about 6x bigger than the initial tune-in; Game of Thrones (which had a much higher starting point of 12 million linear viewers) grew by a factor of about 3.7 for its final season; and Barry tripled its initial audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Yesterday at 7:41 AM|
Um, people want fantasy or unrealistic fabulousness (GOT, BLL). Who wants to see a bunch of angsty teenagers acting like assholes when you can easily find that in real life?
I started watching Euphoria to see the Jacob Elordi naked, but I liked that it didn't focus on the typical teen BS.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||Yesterday at 8:01 AM|
The Jacob Elordi? Is that like The AIDS and The Cancer?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||Yesterday at 8:06 AM|
So am I to glean from this thread that the 15 yr old kid falls for the soldier who was naked in the shower and they have an affair? I hope this makes the kid grow up. He needs to be slapped, hard.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||Yesterday at 10:03 AM|
Someone needs to tell Luca there are adult gay men who pursue sexual encounters with other adult gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||Yesterday at 10:05 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 62||Yesterday at 10:48 AM|
What is Luca's deal with these age gaps? Why couldn't the kid just get a boyfriend his own age?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||Yesterday at 10:50 AM|
I just watched the first episode and think that even if the 14 year old has a crush, it doesn't mean the older guy will return those feelings (at least without consequences).
The older Russian sounding soldier is a major/O-4. In real life the absolute quickest someone would make that rank is in 7-8 years. While the actor is 27, there are no 27 year old majors! The youngest you'd find would be 29...so if a romance is on the horizon, it would fall solidly in sexual predator territory (unlike CMBYN, which involved a 16 year old and a 25 year old).
|by Anonymous||reply 64||Yesterday at 12:21 PM|
r64 Luca must have conceived the soldier as a much older character.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||Yesterday at 12:23 PM|
Gay people often don't get to explore same age same sex dalliances like straight people do. It's not at all uncommon for young gay men to have their first sexual experience with someone much older. The fact of that doesn't make it "right" but...
|by Anonymous||reply 66||Yesterday at 12:24 PM|
Another film about young twinks and an older man. Beginning to think maybe the director plays to the barely legal/dirty old man crowd with a patina of artsiness.
Of course, I’ve seen many Italian movies with older, ugly men chasing young busty women. Maybe this is just Italian cinema.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||Yesterday at 12:29 PM|
Its described as an *innocent* romantic connection.
Its clear Fraser will have a crush on an older soldier, which is fine, but they don't actually fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||Yesterday at 12:49 PM|
R68 is right. As a former military officer I know for a fact an officer wouldn't try to fuck the garrison commander's 14 year old son...especially if they know who his mother is. I've heard of young enlisted members dating dependents of senior leaders who are around their age (18, 19), but even that's rare.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||Yesterday at 12:52 PM|
Second episode did 90,000 viewers.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||Yesterday at 2:52 PM|
Folks, you need to remember that the age of consent is much lower in Italy than it is in the States. It probably is 14 or 15. So get your panties in a twist if you want, but I don't think this is an illegal situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||Yesterday at 2:53 PM|
[quote]Second episode did 90,000 viewers.
Not enough to make it into the top 150 shows on cable TV Monday.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||Yesterday at 2:56 PM|
They must have known this type of show would have a small following. My husband disliked it rather intensely and I'm going to have to watch the rest on my own. That kid is so annoying. I hope it gets better.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||Yesterday at 3:07 PM|
The show is very peculiar and I very much doubt HBO had any expectations it gets high ratings. It will do well with hard core art house crowd on digital and streaming.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||Yesterday at 3:10 PM|
I thought the first episode was really neat. I like the director's loose style and he captured something essential about how tough it can be to raise children. And it was very suspenseful--I didn't know what was going to happen next! Credit to his style and camera work. And long takes!
|by Anonymous||reply 75||Yesterday at 3:15 PM|
R71, it doesn't matter what the age of consent is in Italy. People in the military are bound to the Uniformed Code of Military Justice, which means screwing someone under 18 would be punished.
Regardless, it's Rizzoli & Isles is pulling in better ratings. 99K viewers? I'm willing to bet HBO will dump the remaining episodes online after the 3rd episode.
I'm sure focusing the entire 1st episode on an unlikable protagonist seemed like a good idea, but hopefully he's killed off early on and the show shifts focus to more tolerable characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||Yesterday at 3:18 PM|
Worth pointing out this is a limited series one off, so its not meant to have another season. The ratings don't particularly matter.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||Yesterday at 3:31 PM|
Watched two episodes of The Third Day, the Jude Law series, it's only three episode series. This series seems to be going The Wicker Man route, I could be wrong. Jude's character is stuck in some town with a bunch of weirdoes. Some of the freaky townspeople seem to be threatening him, one alluded to 'a sacrifice'.
Most of HBO's new series are quite bad. I tried to get into Lovecraft Country, there was too much supernatural bullshit in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||Yesterday at 3:40 PM|
Lovecraft Country is amazing.
And as for "supernatural bullshit", wtf did you expect from a LOVECRAFT story?
Are you stupid?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||a day ago|
Well I for one have no idea what a LOVECRAFT story is (not r78)
|by Anonymous||reply 80||a day ago|
Is "Lovercraft" a well known brand? I've never heard of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||20 hours ago|
The thing is sexual relationships of any kind is gross when it involves a 14 year old. When the 14 year old is played in an offensive way and by a horrible,unattractive actor, it makes it more unbearable. Who would commit to that kind of torture. JDG was a cute kid but he's aging like milk and he's not even 18 yet. That god awful hair. I'm shocked 100k people cared to watch this. At least Elio was played by beautiful Timothee Chalamet and was gorgeous cinematography.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||19 hours ago|
Luca needs to stop with hiring the nepotism brats. He even hired that fat fug Scorcese spawn.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||19 hours ago|
JDG has said he really had to act in this show, but so far he just seems to be playing his douchebag self.
[quote]JDG was a cute kid but he's aging like milk
It's really surprising just how quickly that happened. He must have some British genes.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||19 hours ago|
This pic is Reichard?
|by Anonymous||reply 85||19 hours ago|
Reichard doesn't have large nips.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||19 hours ago|
Wrong thread R85, but yes.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||18 hours ago|
r84 No just the Grazer family genes. He is going his uncles way
|by Anonymous||reply 88||18 hours ago|
R88 Yikes, a little warning next time!
|by Anonymous||reply 89||18 hours ago|
Who is the uncle?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||14 hours ago|
R90, Brian Glazer is a producer who co-founded and owns Imagine Entertainment with Ron Howard. He's easily worth hundreds of millions of dollars...enough to buy his fugly, untalented nephew roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||13 hours ago|
Thanks. Is he the guy beyond "Finding Prince Charming"?
|by Anonymous||reply 92||12 hours ago|
R80, did you grow up under a rock? Did you never go to school? You have no idea who Lovecraft is, what the word "Lovecraftian" means? Never heard of Cthulhu?
Man, the education system in this country is a disaster.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||10 hours ago|
[Quote] You have no idea who Lovecraft is, what the word "Lovecraftian" means? Never heard of Cthulhu?
[Quote] Man, the education system in this country is a disaster.
You're on the internet, dear. It's not a country.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||10 hours ago|
r93, you seem unbalanced. Always denigrating other people because they don't know some bit of information that you know. Seek help.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||10 hours ago|
Apart from the guy showing dong in the shower almost everyone in this show is either average or just plain ugly. Usually HBO shows filled with somewhat attractive people.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||9 hours ago|
I heard Timothee has a cameo in this show.
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