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Leopold & Loeb

I had never heard of them before.

It just so happened that I was watching Law & Order SVU where a judge mentioned Clarence Darrow. So I looked him up and even more interestingly, learned that he was an attorney on the Leopold and Loeb case.

Having no idea who they were, it was a pretty shocking read. Disgusting, actually.

To think that one of them was actually released from prison and got to live a normal life, was really disappointing.

One of them got what was coming to him, but the other got off lucky.

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by Anonymousreply 2009/15/2020

[quote] Never the Sinner, John Logan's 1988 play, was based on contemporary newspaper accounts of the case, and included an explicit portrayal of Leopold and Loeb's sexual relationship.

What in the hell was this all about?

By all accounts, they were both straight.

by Anonymousreply 109/13/2020

Loeb was the hot one, right?

by Anonymousreply 209/13/2020

My mom’s college friend married Nathan Leopold’s nephew. Super rich family in Chicago. He was out of jail by then. He got married late in life, though super gay in his youth. And obsessed with Loeb, who was killed in jail.

by Anonymousreply 309/13/2020

Their initial target was William Shawn. Had they killed him we would not have the New Yorker as we know it today, no Designated Mourner, and the Princess Bride would be far less memorable.

by Anonymousreply 409/13/2020

Seriously, R3? Any more info. about them?

[quote] In his autobiography, Life Plus 99 Years, Leopold ridiculed Day's claim that Loeb had attempted to sexually assault him.

Why would Leopold "ridicule" that claim?

Initially I was thinking because Leopold was implying there's no way Loeb could be gay.

But could it be that he was implying that Loeb would never cheat on him?

by Anonymousreply 509/13/2020

Loeb was pretty good looking, but his crime was heinous.

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by Anonymousreply 609/13/2020

Leopold looked like a fugly dickhead.

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by Anonymousreply 709/13/2020

[quote] The two made a highly unusual pact: Loeb, who was gay, agreed to participate in Leopold's eccentric sexual practices in return for Leopold's cooperation with his criminal endeavors. Both were convinced that their intelligence and social privilege exempted them from the laws that bound other people.

Was the closet case the one who got away with it?

by Anonymousreply 809/13/2020

The Alfred Hitchcock film "Rope" (and the play that preceded it) are fictionalized versions of the Leopold & Loeb story. Jimmy Stewart, Farley Granger (gay in real life), and John Dall (also gay in real life, and who later played several fey characters on "Perry Mason") played the leads.

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by Anonymousreply 909/13/2020

Multiple pop culture ripped-from-the-headlines versions of the story helped make the case a pop culture touchstone across the generations

First, Patrick Hamilton's 1929 play Rope, which became the Hitchcock film in 1948.

Then, Meyer Levin's 1956 doorstop bestseller, Compulsion, and the 1957 play and 1959 film adaptation of that.

The Never the Sinner play was 1985 and has been recently revived.

There was the pornish indie film Swoon in 1992.

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by Anonymousreply 1009/13/2020

What kind of education did you receive that you had not heard of this in the US?

by Anonymousreply 1109/13/2020

OP, check PBS. The Leopold and Loeb documentary might still be on there. Worth watching.

by Anonymousreply 1209/13/2020

They were legit brilliant, and both legit gay, no matter how assiduously Leopold went on to beard. The gay angle was part of the reason Darrow chose to eschew a jury trial for them; he figured if the jury heard about their sex life, it would torpedo any benefit of a doubt they'd be willing to give.

Loeb was, at the time, the youngest student to ever graduate from the University of Michigan, leading to the following legendary report of his death (after he was stabbed by a fellow inmate) in the Chicago Daily News: “Richard Loeb, despite his erudition, today ended his sentence with a proposition.”

by Anonymousreply 1309/13/2020

R13 - Michigan or U of Chicago?

But yes - there was an amorous part of their relationship. Of course, we'll never know for sure as nobody was allowed to talk about that back then.

by Anonymousreply 1409/13/2020

I saw the tail end of Compulsion on tv the other day. Dean Stockwell was absolutely gorgeous in it, I’d like to see the whole movie someday. I remember watching Swoon a bunch of times in the ‘90s. I really loved that movie, so stylish. The Leopold & Loeb true story is so fascinating.

by Anonymousreply 1509/13/2020

I read that they're what Garland called her agents - the ones who fucked her and stole her money. Leopold and Loeb. That's pretty funny if she did.

by Anonymousreply 1609/13/2020

R11, I was just going to say that. This is one of the most famous cases ever in the US with a million stories about it. And not have heard of Clarence Darrow? SMDH

Is this the Romper Room version of DL?

by Anonymousreply 1709/13/2020

R15: The entire movie is on YouTube, under: Compulsion 1959.

by Anonymousreply 1809/14/2020

It' seems that Leopold and Loeb aren't as popular as they once were. Hot sexy boys.

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