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Madeline Kahn

Miss her so much.

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by Anonymousreply 115Last Tuesday at 6:48 PM

This scene is exceptional. In just two short minutes, she makes you laugh, she makes you hurt, then she makes you laugh again. She was brilliant. So underrated.

by Anonymousreply 109/13/2020

Teutonic Twat!

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by Anonymousreply 209/13/2020

I just read a biography about her.

It was kind of sad. She was so talented but very insecure.

And it's a pity that the last thing she did in the business was a TV show with a serial rapist.

by Anonymousreply 309/13/2020

I've never even heard of this bitch before. I had to google her. Nope, don't know her.

by Anonymousreply 409/13/2020

R4 is the biggest Philistine of the month so far.

by Anonymousreply 509/13/2020

I miss Beth Howland

by Anonymousreply 609/13/2020

So lovely...

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by Anonymousreply 709/13/2020

What about Madeleine McCann? Do you miss her?

by Anonymousreply 809/13/2020

What about Madeleine McCann? Do you miss her?

by Anonymousreply 909/13/2020

R7 According to the book, Madeline was not happy about being asked to sing that song.

She wanted to be taken "seriously" as a singer and didn't want to do a funny song. So she had to be talked into it.

It's sad when people don't play to their strengths. Because she sang that song better than anyone else could.

But Kahn could be quite difficult.

by Anonymousreply 1009/13/2020

She was stealing focus as Gooch. So I had her fired.

Thank god. MAME wouldn't have been the same picture otherwise!

by Anonymousreply 1109/13/2020

I went down the rabbit whole a while back and fell on some blogspot from about 10 years ago that was planning an authorized biography on her. Not sure it ever happened, but it had a lot of interesting things in there, and she was (surprise) extremely insecure about her weight.

by Anonymousreply 1209/13/2020

It's not clear if Madeline was fired from Mame because:

1. Lucy didn't want a younger, redhead comedian in the film;

2. Lucy didn't like Madeline's methody refusal to "do a voice NOW!" during the table read; or

3. Madeline tried to get fired because she knew Blazing Saddles would be much better.

by Anonymousreply 1309/13/2020

Flames!

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by Anonymousreply 1409/13/2020

No reason it couldn't be a combination of all three.

by Anonymousreply 1509/13/2020

John on Madeline...

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by Anonymousreply 1609/13/2020

What are you wearing?

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by Anonymousreply 1709/13/2020

She was on fire in the 70s! Such amazing performances. Paper Moon, What's up, Doc, Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstien!

by Anonymousreply 1809/13/2020

The Eunice Burns.

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by Anonymousreply 1909/13/2020

She is nothing short of brilliant in What's Up, Doc? Love that movie.

by Anonymousreply 2009/13/2020

I miss Patrice Munsel

by Anonymousreply 2109/13/2020

LOve this

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by Anonymousreply 2209/13/2020

She's still here, r21....

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by Anonymousreply 2309/13/2020

Great talent, but was difficult at times. Gave Lucy the run around on Mame so she could do Blazing Saddles. Hal Prince regretted hiring her for On The Twentieth Century, she almost sunk the production with her antics.

Streisand was not happy with her either.

by Anonymousreply 2409/13/2020

R24 Well, Babs is a cunt who didn't like being outshined by someone with more talent.

by Anonymousreply 2509/13/2020

Well, r24, she was a very unique talent/personality. She had her own way of doing things. It would have helped if Hal had understood that. She *was* the "name" in that show after all.

by Anonymousreply 2609/13/2020

[quote]she almost sunk the production with her antics.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 2709/13/2020

Kahn said in interviews years after WHAT'S UP, DOC that Streisand was aggressively rude to her from Day 1 and that it was disappointing. Completely non-responsive to her. Kahn (naively) thought they with all they shared in common (goofy, funny Jewish girls from the Northeast, theatre and singing backgrounds, etc) that they would actually become friends.

Barbra doesn't do "friendship" with female costars.

by Anonymousreply 2809/13/2020

Madeline GONE

by Anonymousreply 2909/13/2020

Do y’all remember Kahn’s hot dogs

by Anonymousreply 3009/13/2020

She didn't show up half of the time to On The Twentieth Century because she said she couldn't maintain the same level of performance every night. She left the show for good several months into it, and much earlier than what was in her contract. I think it did wind up losing money, and she didn't do Broadway for quite a few years afterwards because of the negative press she got.

On the other hand, it's a testament to her talent that she wound up still getting a Tony nomination when anyone else would have been easily snubbed.

by Anonymousreply 3109/13/2020

What made her “difficult” per se? Was she just a perfectionist about her work?

From that blogspot I read, playing frumpy parts early in her career played into her insecurities, so I’m guessing she also became somewhat particular about how she would look and if she didn’t like it would get testy.

by Anonymousreply 3209/13/2020

She was extremely neurotic and afraid of hurting her voice. She drove people crazy. Very funny on stage and screen though.

by Anonymousreply 3309/13/2020

Well, she got through Glitter and Be Gay...

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by Anonymousreply 3409/13/2020

R34, that was for only one performance.

by Anonymousreply 3509/13/2020

In fairness to her, "On the Twentieth Century" is one of the most difficult scores in Broadway history for the female lead to sing.

But when she nailed opening night, Hal Prince lost all his apprehensions about her and told her she was amazing.

She turned to him and said, "You don't think I'm going to do that every night do you?"

That is a very strange attitude for a Broadway star.

by Anonymousreply 3609/13/2020

According to the book I read, Streisand was nice to Kahn during the filming.

But Kahn made Streisand very insecure at the table read, when Kahn got laughs with every line and Barbra got none. Barbra complained to the director: "I'm a supporting actor in my own movie!"

Kahn did tell friends that she did a comedic song routine between takes to kill time and Streisand though it was so funny she stole it from her.

by Anonymousreply 3709/13/2020

Shortly before "On the Twentieth Century" she did "She Loves Me" for a couple of weeks and sometimes wouldn't sing her high note and that was only a B.

by Anonymousreply 3809/13/2020

R38 That was when the cocaine rumors started. But I have never seen them substantiated.

by Anonymousreply 3909/13/2020

I'm aware of that, r35, all I said was she got through it. They first asked Cook to do it but she couldn't hit *that* note any longer.

by Anonymousreply 4009/13/2020

She redeemed any B'way sins with the Sisters Rosensweig.

by Anonymousreply 4109/13/2020

SR

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by Anonymousreply 4209/13/2020

R41 ugh I saw that with my parents right after she left production and guess which DL favorite — sitcom star slash would be scat/ singer — took her place?

by Anonymousreply 4309/13/2020

Oh, no, not Lavin!

by Anonymousreply 4409/13/2020

R44 she was pretty good though, actually. I mean, she certainly fits the type.

by Anonymousreply 4509/13/2020

R40, I don't know whether Barbara Cook was asked to do that 1968 CANDIDE concert but she certainly could have hit *that* note. She was only forty-one at the time. But there's a lot more to that aria than *that* note. She sang "Glitter and Be Gay" with the New York Philharmonic at Carnegie Hall in 1961. And she considered doing it for her 1975 Carnegie Hall concert but she would have had to have taken the time and effort to get herself into the vocal shape to sing that style of music. The other problem is she would have to do "Glitter and Be Gay" at the end of a full evening of singing because what could follow that?

by Anonymousreply 46Last Monday at 5:14 AM

I'm trying to remember where I read that, r46. Possibly in the Madeline bio or Cook's memoir.

by Anonymousreply 47Last Monday at 5:53 AM

She was especially funny in Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein. When I was 12, my older brother and his girlfriend sneaked me in to see Blazing Saddles. I loved the farting, the dirty language, the sexual humor and especially Ms Kahn as the exhausted whore.

by Anonymousreply 48Last Monday at 6:15 AM

R28, link? I am not a Streisand apologist, but I read what R37 said. You're comment R28 doesn't hold water - "aggressively rude" and "non responsive" are opposites.

by Anonymousreply 49Last Monday at 6:38 AM

I adore her.

Last night I watched a movie from 1980 called 'Simon', starring Alan Arkin. I thought Madeline would've had a bigger part since she's listed second in the credits on IMDB, but she was only in maybe 10-15 minutes in the middle of the film, and then never shows up again. :(

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by Anonymousreply 50Last Monday at 6:45 AM

She cheats on a couple of notes on Glitter but still sounds fantastic and she would have been SO funny as Cunegonde. She had a truly unique talent and I wish she had been able to maintain her health much longer.

by Anonymousreply 51Last Monday at 8:22 AM

Check out 2:40-2:50 in the link for her hilarious reading of the line, "I'm not well !" from "(Not) Getting Married Today." Also on YouTube, Johnny Cash (!) and Madeline Kahn perform "Singing in the Bathtub."

By the way, I remember that when Madeline was on "The Rosie O'Donnell Show," she also performed "Singing in the Bathtub." She told Rosie in the interview segment that she loved working with Barbra Streisand.

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by Anonymousreply 52Last Monday at 8:47 AM

I think she considered herself an opera singer and certainly could have done it on an opera house's schedule as opposed to 8 shows a week.

by Anonymousreply 53Last Monday at 8:53 AM

^^ for r51

by Anonymousreply 54Last Monday at 8:53 AM

[quote] Streisand was not happy with her either.

Barbara did not like another woman in the same film who was funnier than she was? NO!!

That's like saying "The sun rose in the east that morning."

by Anonymousreply 55Last Monday at 9:30 AM

I worship her. I'm like F. Murray Abraham bowing down to Geraldine Page about her. I'm that embarrassing.

She was brilliant in Young Frankenstein and her "Taffeta, darling" line has entered the American lexicon.

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by Anonymousreply 56Last Monday at 9:51 AM

She was awarding. That voice! Hee comedic chops!

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by Anonymousreply 57Last Monday at 9:53 AM

Her Vanilla Ice Cream...

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by Anonymousreply 58Last Monday at 10:08 AM

Tremendous!

Had she not been taken so soon - I often wonder what roles would have played.

by Anonymousreply 59Last Monday at 10:14 AM

[quote]Barbara did not like another woman in the same film who was funnier than she was? NO!!

BarbAra? Turn in your gay card.

by Anonymousreply 60Last Monday at 10:22 AM

And dearie, when it comes to kissing...

(There's nothing missing!)

No, not a BIT!

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by Anonymousreply 61Last Monday at 10:23 AM

[quote]She was awarding. That voice! Hee comedic chops!

Whom was she awarding? What does this mean?

by Anonymousreply 62Last Monday at 10:23 AM

She and Carol Burnett are hysterically funny in a classic sketch.

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by Anonymousreply 63Last Monday at 10:24 AM

The Cheap Detective

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by Anonymousreply 64Last Monday at 10:26 AM

It was so unusual her voice was perfect for operetta but not really for opera. But she got lots of opportunities to use it.

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by Anonymousreply 65Last Monday at 10:27 AM

"How do you do, my name is Bessie Bellwood..."

"LIAR!"

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by Anonymousreply 66Last Monday at 10:30 AM

The Kangaroo Hop

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by Anonymousreply 67Last Monday at 10:32 AM

[quote]"aggressively rude" and "non responsive" are opposites

They aren't, though. That's a weird thing to say. Refusing to respond to a co-worker is aggressively rude in and of itself, and I would assume where Barbra was involved, she was being aggressive by yelling about her co-stars at directors, producers, and/or agents instead of at the co-stars themselves.

I really like Barbra and think she gets shit on when she doesn't deserve it, but she also has a documented history of having people around her to do her dirty work for her.

by Anonymousreply 68Last Monday at 10:40 AM

Mixed Nuts 1

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by Anonymousreply 69Last Monday at 10:41 AM

Mixed Nuts 2

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by Anonymousreply 70Last Monday at 10:41 AM

Mixed Nuts 3

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by Anonymousreply 71Last Monday at 10:50 AM

Deleted scene...

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by Anonymousreply 72Last Monday at 10:52 AM

It seems like she should've been in "Murder By Death," but she wasn't. She could've played Eileen Brennan's part (although Eileen was wonderful.)

by Anonymousreply 73Last Monday at 11:07 AM

Eileen and Madeline both had their own unique comic styles and both had perfect-for-operetta voices.

by Anonymousreply 74Last Monday at 11:10 AM

^^Eileen, Madeline and Marian Mercer were the three funniest women in show biz of their time.

by Anonymousreply 75Last Monday at 11:36 AM

Loved Mercer...

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by Anonymousreply 76Last Monday at 11:42 AM

R65 I just watched "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother" last night and was completely disappointed. A great cast meandering around in a weak script that tried so hard to do what Mel Brooks had done before. Gene Wilder scored the year later with "The World's Greatest Lover", but "Adv. of SH SB" is unfortunately not that funny outside the fight between Gene & Leo McKern on top of a cabby, the ballroom scene with the back of Wilder & Marty Feldman's tux chopped off, and the operetta spoof that was a mix of Gilbert and Sullivan parody and a nod to "A Night at the Opera". The three stars try their best, but perhaps Gene shouldn't have directed what he was writing and starring in since the script seemed rushed together to play off on their success in "Young Frankenstein".

by Anonymousreply 77Last Monday at 12:15 PM

I'm utterly shocked that Kahn played Cunegonde! I had no idea her vocal chops were *that* good. She's no Chenowith but she certainly holds her own, and is a much better fit for the part. Thank you for that clip, R34.

by Anonymousreply 78Last Monday at 12:27 PM

r77, the story is that the studio bosses were really impressed with "Young Frankenstein," and knew that Wilder had somehow got the best out of Mel Brooks and (wonder of wonders) got him to tone down all the toilet humor (always Brooks's downfall, although as he got older he was able to rein it in himself). So they basically let him do a film on whatever he wanted. HE was the one who insisted on working with Madeline and Marty Feldman again--he just adored doing "Young Frankenstein," and felt he had never worked with such talented people, and wanted to do it again right then.

It was his first film script flying solo (and also his first directing job), and he just didn't know quite what he was doing. The film is hilarious in clips (especially when music is involved), but the in-between parts don't work at all.

by Anonymousreply 79Last Monday at 12:31 PM

[quote] I'm utterly shocked that Kahn played Cunegonde! I had no idea her vocal chops were *that* good. She's no Chenowith but she certainly holds her own, and is a much better fit for the part.

She wasn't the singer Chenoweth is, but she's a much funnier comedienne. Listening to Kahn on the OBC album of On the Twentieth Century and Chenoweth on the revival is really astonishing. Chenoweth just isn't as funny--and part of it is because she's never fully committed to the part. She's al;ways winking she's in on the joke. Kahn always committed fully 100%--she just disappeared into her characters, but retained her genius timing.

by Anonymousreply 80Last Monday at 12:38 PM

[quote]She wasn't the singer Chenoweth is, but she's a much funnier comedienne. Listening to Kahn on the OBC album of On the Twentieth Century and Chenoweth on the revival is really astonishing. Chenoweth just isn't as funny--and part of it is because she's never fully committed to the part. She's al;ways winking she's in on the joke. Kahn always committed fully 100%--she just disappeared into her characters, but retained her genius timing.

That's a fantastic assessment, R80.

by Anonymousreply 81Last Monday at 12:45 PM

First Family was another one that should have been a classic given the talent involved but just completely misfired.

The less said about Mixed Nuts the better.

No one watched "Oh, Madeline!" when it was on ABC?

by Anonymousreply 82Last Monday at 4:03 PM

I think all the eps of Oh Madeline are on Youtube now.

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by Anonymousreply 83Last Monday at 4:05 PM

“Daddy you better find me a bathroom right quick cuz this lil’ ole baby’s gotta go winky tink!”

by Anonymousreply 84Last Monday at 4:17 PM

Does anyone remember New York News with Madeline, MTM and Gregory Harrison?

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by Anonymousreply 85Last Monday at 5:03 PM

I've never heard of that show R85.

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by Anonymousreply 86Last Monday at 5:17 PM

There's an episode of "Oh, Madeline" where somehow she winds up in a West Side Story-like musical and she's supposed to dance in a funeral scene for a gang leader and she has absolutely no idea what she's supposed to be doing, Does anyone know what I'm talking about? At the time it was really funny, but that was something like 35 years ago (I was a preteen at the time).

by Anonymousreply 87Last Monday at 5:25 PM

I found a failed sitcom pilot she shot in 1986. Something called 'Chameleon.'

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by Anonymousreply 88Last Monday at 5:50 PM

It's uneven, but it has its charms, r82. Liev Schreiber is rather endearing in it.

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by Anonymousreply 89Last Monday at 6:00 PM

[quote] she almost sunk the production with her antics.

Oh, dear.

r27, Darling, if you don't point out what prompts the "Oh, dear," --- "sunk" instead of "sank" --- how do you think they'll ever learn? Oh, well, it's probably too late, anyway. Pity.

by Anonymousreply 90Last Monday at 6:22 PM

R83 Thank you....I copied them onto disc for viewing onto my big screen TV.

I don't recall much about the show other than it being on and off, but I believe there was one episode where she found something funny and instead of reacting like most people quipped "I laugh at that!"

Even with bad writing, she is the tops!

by Anonymousreply 91Last Tuesday at 6:31 AM

This favourite scene from "Betsy's Wedding" shows off Madeline's comedic genius - the nervous energy, the perfect timing, the human touch, and that unique line delivery!

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by Anonymousreply 92Last Tuesday at 6:52 AM

R92 Anything had to be better than that hideous wedding dress they made Molly Ringworm wear.

by Anonymousreply 93Last Tuesday at 6:57 AM

R93 Nothing could be worse than the hideous prom dress Molly "made"

by Anonymousreply 94Last Tuesday at 8:33 AM

Not even this, r94?

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by Anonymousreply 95Last Tuesday at 9:10 AM

Madeline & Carol

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by Anonymousreply 96Last Tuesday at 11:14 AM

R96 I remember when Madeline Kahn did a "Eunice" skit where she played the director of the Pepper Pot Theater Company and came over to coach Eunice for a part she got in a play.

I just remember Madeline saying, "In our circles, in our circles, in our circles, in our circles..."

by Anonymousreply 97Last Tuesday at 11:23 AM

How did I never see Betsy's Wedding? Must remedy that soon.

by Anonymousreply 98Last Tuesday at 11:28 AM

It's the first sketch (I think) at r63, r97.

by Anonymousreply 99Last Tuesday at 11:31 AM

[quote] [R41] ugh I saw that with my parents right after she left production and guess which DL favorite — sitcom star slash would be scat/ singer — took her place?

Boppity bop!

by Anonymousreply 100Last Tuesday at 11:31 AM

R100 that makes me so mad I just.....I just wanna slap her!

by Anonymousreply 101Last Tuesday at 11:32 AM

She sure did some crappy movies, but she was always the funniest thing in them.

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by Anonymousreply 102Last Tuesday at 11:36 AM

Mixed Nuts was a interesting movie but a mess, but she was great in it.

by Anonymousreply 103Last Tuesday at 11:38 AM

R99 Yes! That's it! I didn't see it up there. Thank you!

by Anonymousreply 104Last Tuesday at 11:52 AM

Madeline doing Weill not really...

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by Anonymousreply 105Last Tuesday at 11:59 AM

Gemini

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by Anonymousreply 106Last Tuesday at 12:05 PM

She should have won the Oscar for "Paper Moon", not that little cunty brat Tatum O'Neal. The Academy REALLY fucked up that time.

by Anonymousreply 107Last Tuesday at 12:13 PM

Although Tatum was stunning in that part.

by Anonymousreply 108Last Tuesday at 1:01 PM

R4 needs to hand in his gay card. She stole every scene she was in.

by Anonymousreply 109Last Tuesday at 1:10 PM

r107 She should've won for "What's Up, Doc?" too.

by Anonymousreply 110Last Tuesday at 1:24 PM

[quote]Although Tatum was stunning in that part.

Tatum's performance was stitched together from hundreds of takes.

by Anonymousreply 111Last Tuesday at 5:26 PM

Yes, Tatum O'Neals "stunning" performance had to be pulled out of her, bit by bit, piece by piece. She even had to be bribed to say her lines.

by Anonymousreply 112Last Tuesday at 6:31 PM

R112 Well, it all worked and she came off wonderfully. I think both she and Madeline were deserving of their nominations, but I personally would have preferred Madeline.

by Anonymousreply 113Last Tuesday at 6:33 PM

Kahn was a great talent but a true and total supporting character actress. She didn't have the charisma for the leading lady. She came off as odd, annoying and shrill in leading parts. Take nothing away from her because she was indeed wonderful, but a little of her went a long way.

by Anonymousreply 114Last Tuesday at 6:41 PM

One of the very best SNL musical moments...

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by Anonymousreply 115Last Tuesday at 6:48 PM
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