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Ernest Hemingway - CLOSETED?

It’s been said that his suicide was the result of his repressed homosexuality. There’s several online articles about this theory. Was he involved with anyone? Or were there just trysts with pretty Cuban boys at his bungalow? Asking for a friend. I know that this is hard to believe, but I’m sure some of you have strong opinions about it. Discuss...

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by Anonymousreply 59September 18, 2020 11:03 PM

He was married four times.

by Anonymousreply 1September 9, 2020 12:46 AM

bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 2September 9, 2020 12:47 AM

He never sucked my cock

by Anonymousreply 3September 9, 2020 12:47 AM

I’ve noticed most of the gays moving to PV have a latina pinga fetish. Could be something similar.

by Anonymousreply 4September 9, 2020 12:48 AM

Who?

by Anonymousreply 5September 9, 2020 12:48 AM

He topped himself because he had bipolar, as did/do most of the people in his family

by Anonymousreply 6September 9, 2020 12:51 AM

I just saw Mariel Hemingway in Star 80 (1983), with the world's biggest ham actor (Eric Roberts). OMG, awful.

by Anonymousreply 7September 9, 2020 12:56 AM

[quote]Or were there just trysts with pretty Cuban boys at his bungalow?

Oh, I need to hear more about THIS.

by Anonymousreply 8September 9, 2020 1:41 AM

Gore Vidal called him gay in his memoir Palimpsest, and he knew lots of important people, and he was also connected to the lost gen and expats in Paris and Rome et al.

by Anonymousreply 9September 9, 2020 11:03 AM

I doubt it.

by Anonymousreply 10September 9, 2020 11:07 AM

I always suspected it of him. He was just "too" masculine, as if he had something to prove. Or hide.

by Anonymousreply 11September 9, 2020 11:51 AM

Zelda Fitzgerald pegged him as a homo. But then, she was cray-cray.

by Anonymousreply 12September 9, 2020 11:58 AM

homo runs in that family, that's for sure

by Anonymousreply 13September 9, 2020 12:12 PM

Homo runs in the family? Mariel? Margaux?

by Anonymousreply 14September 9, 2020 1:27 PM

R9. According to Vidal, everyone was a homosexuality. But he was the only “man,” because he didn’t “do” anything (I.a stone cold top).

by Anonymousreply 15September 9, 2020 1:34 PM

Son was bi and finally trans. Grandson is gay. I think his father had suspect heterosexuality as well.

by Anonymousreply 16September 9, 2020 1:36 PM

Where was Ernest when he shot himself? Ketchum, Idaho? Who lives in that house now? Address? I would love to visit the exact suicide location.

by Anonymousreply 17September 9, 2020 1:43 PM

There’s been rampant speculation about this for decades.

Deep reads of the sexless Hemingway-like protagonist palling around with the faux Fitzgeralds in “The Sun Also Rises” added fuel to the suspicions

by Anonymousreply 18September 9, 2020 1:59 PM

I read that he was crazy about Josephine Baker and would go to her shows often in Paris.

If that doesn't say gay LOL, just kidding. But he did say that she was "the most sensational woman" he'd ever seen.

by Anonymousreply 19September 15, 2020 11:55 PM

I live in Key West and know several Hemingway "scholars" (some of whom are gay) and no one has ever mentioned this.

by Anonymousreply 20September 15, 2020 11:57 PM

Hemingway Wore Khakis.

(Gap Khakis Campaign 1993-1994).

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by Anonymousreply 21September 16, 2020 12:00 AM

He probably moved to a remote locale to avoid prying eyes. He definitely had a fear of being perceived as a 'sissy'.

A writer; an alcoholic; a suicide; and all those cats...

by Anonymousreply 22September 16, 2020 12:03 AM

The trans son has a sad story. But she smiled through it.

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by Anonymousreply 23September 16, 2020 12:06 AM

Repressed = no trysts with pretty Cuban boys or anyone else. I mean, that's what repressed means.

He definitely had masculinity issues but I seriously doubt that's why he killed himself.

by Anonymousreply 24September 16, 2020 12:07 AM

Been there done that

by Anonymousreply 25September 16, 2020 12:09 AM

[quote]and all those cats...

You mean he was a LESBIAN TOO?

by Anonymousreply 26September 16, 2020 12:11 AM

There's a reason they called him "Papa".

by Anonymousreply 27September 16, 2020 12:28 AM

Please. Hemingway killed himself for medical (physical and psychological) issues not related to homosexuality. Whatever concerns he may have had earlier in life, they were not significant when he died.

by Anonymousreply 28September 16, 2020 12:30 AM

Mr. Hemingway was cute as a young man...in bed. In "A Moveable Feast" [he's handsome on the cover of the 2009 Scribner restored edition], he tells of the time F. Scott Fitzgerald asked him to look at his penis and tell him if he was "too small." [He was – no “Great Gatsby” in [italic]his[/italic] pants – but Hemingway was polite, and attempted to reassure him. ] I believe F. Scott’s [italic]little problem[/italic] is the reason Zelda went insane.

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by Anonymousreply 29September 16, 2020 12:43 AM

His father also committed suicide by firearm in his sixties.

Suicide runs in families; having a close biological relative who commits suicide increases one's risk greatly.

A mixture of genetics, alcoholism and coping with aging.

by Anonymousreply 30September 16, 2020 12:57 AM

Aside from the sun, what else also rises...?

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by Anonymousreply 31September 16, 2020 12:57 AM

He was such a big dyke.

by Anonymousreply 32September 16, 2020 12:58 AM

I got the feeling that Hemingway had homosexual encounters when young.

In "A Moveable Feast" he made wholly gratuitous references to homosexuals lurking when he was a young man.

But I wasn't sure if he had just acted as trade to get money.

by Anonymousreply 33September 16, 2020 1:07 AM

Didn't Louise Brooks say she thought he was a closet case?

by Anonymousreply 34September 16, 2020 1:10 AM

His father, I believe, committed suicide; Ernest hated his mother; he had a bad plane crash and got concussion, began to think the FBI was surveilling him, which they were; his wife had him committed=ergo, he killed himself.

by Anonymousreply 35September 16, 2020 1:33 AM

R26 No, Rose...[italic]LEBANESE[/italic]...

by Anonymousreply 36September 16, 2020 2:20 AM

He had an unrequited crush on F. Scott Fitzgerald. No sane person would put up with his crap.

by Anonymousreply 37September 16, 2020 2:27 AM

oh daddy!

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by Anonymousreply 38September 16, 2020 2:27 AM

I've forgotten all the details but years ago I read that someone was walking with Ernest down the street when Hemingway saw a man on the other side of the street who he perceived to be a homosexual. He crossed the street in a fury and beat up the man who he thought was gay. The other man with him was shocked at his behavior. Translation: Internalized Homophobia on Hemingway's part.

by Anonymousreply 39September 16, 2020 2:36 AM

r39, that's awful. He sounds like an awful person

by Anonymousreply 40September 16, 2020 2:42 AM

[quote] He probably moved to a remote locale to avoid prying eyes.

The Keys were very popular with writers in the '30s-'40s and beyond. Lillian Hellman, Elizabeth Bishop, and tons of writers went there for extended times for vacation.

Also, FSF asked Hemingway about his penis size because Zelda was always telling him that it was small to hurt his pride.

by Anonymousreply 41September 16, 2020 10:54 AM

His sister Sunny played ragtime piano at my house in 1973.

by Anonymousreply 42September 16, 2020 11:12 AM

bump

by Anonymousreply 43September 16, 2020 4:37 PM

Please give us more details about his suicide. Where, when, who found him, where is he buried, etc.

by Anonymousreply 44September 16, 2020 5:44 PM

A good amount of subtext in The Sun Also Rises. The protagonist describes everything he sees for paragraphs on end, yet doesn't say more than a sentence about his "injury" that had apparently left him impotent. Sure, Jan

by Anonymousreply 45September 16, 2020 10:29 PM

"I always suspected it of him. He was just "too" masculine, as if he had something to prove. Or hide. "

I agree. He wasn't secure in his masculinity, there was always something fake and desperate about his attempts to look butcher than thou.

I just don't know what it was he was trying to hide, I'd always thought "tiny dick".

by Anonymousreply 46September 17, 2020 5:04 AM

Self-loathing gay.

by Anonymousreply 47September 17, 2020 9:45 AM

"He wasn't secure in his masculinity, there was always something fake and desperate about his attempts to look butcher than thou."

Fair point, but you could argue MANY straight men aren't secure in their masculinities.

by Anonymousreply 48September 17, 2020 5:07 PM

Mama dressing him up as a girl for years didn't help matters.

Unless we consider Lil' Ernest as proto-Trans. In which case, they is a pioneer in genderfuck.

by Anonymousreply 49September 17, 2020 7:35 PM

Ernest Hemingway is NOT a fag... and I'm the dame who can prove it.

by Anonymousreply 50September 17, 2020 8:29 PM

But he seemed so respectful towards women until now!

by Anonymousreply 51September 17, 2020 9:14 PM

Oops, ignore r51 it was posted to the wrong thread

by Anonymousreply 52September 17, 2020 9:15 PM

It definitely was, R51/52! Lol

by Anonymousreply 53September 17, 2020 9:18 PM

Have you read The Garden of Eden R49?

by Anonymousreply 54September 18, 2020 1:29 AM

I've read a few Gary Cooper bios and the parts about their "bromance" always reads like Hemingway had a "real" man crush on GC. They liked to go out and do manly things like camping, fishing and hunting. But it always sounds like EH was more in love with GC than just idealizing him as an Alpha Male. He killed himself soon after Cooper died.

by Anonymousreply 55September 18, 2020 1:47 AM

Hemingway wasn't homosexual.

by Anonymousreply 56September 18, 2020 1:53 AM

I haven't read The Garden of Eden. Is it good?

In Islands in the Stream, there is a scene where the 'protagonist' pets his cat until it orgasms. I kid you not.

When I read that as a teenager, I wasn't sure if it was depraved or brave of him to write that. He was old by then so maybe didn't give a crap.

by Anonymousreply 57September 18, 2020 7:26 PM

I wouldn’t say it is good R57, but it seems to betray a fair amount of gender anxiety.

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by Anonymousreply 58September 18, 2020 9:27 PM

I'd expect a bit of "gender anxiety" in a straight man who'd been raised as a girl, R58.

But I wouldn't expect a lifetime of desperate blowhard demonstrations of masculinity, I'm assuming there was some other issue on top of the expected gender insecurity. Same-sex attraction or tiny dick at a guess.

by Anonymousreply 59September 18, 2020 11:03 PM
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