Charles Darwin is Being Cancelled

Yes!!!

By the unadapted part of the species, no less.

So they agree with the right wingers that science is wrong and it’s... GOD?

I don’t understand.

[quote]Evolution is Supports Structural Racism. I suspected as much.

The article says nothing of the sort, OP. This is yet another one of those threads, spreading disinformation, trying to spark outrage.

Even misrepresenting it as you have, the article itself is from a right-wing source, The Telegraph, and less than reliable.

Reading is quite challenging, isn't it OP? (as is grammar, apparently)

Did you even read the article?

R4, you must be amazing fun at parties.

You make it sound like you think success at parties is predicated on lies, R6. You can't be much fun.

Evolution is a European construct that intentionally displaced indigenous peoples’s explanations for the origin of species. It needs to go, asap.

I read the article, and I have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. Sorry, I can't advocate this. Are they doing to try and strong arm everyone and everything, until there's nothing left?

[quote] The painted ceiling contains visual depictions of plants “like cotton, tea and tobacco” which were “the plants that fuelled the British Empire's economy”

There peddling this crap at museums now. Loony tunes.

Obviously, I meant "going" not "doing" ^

So now BLM is coming after museums?

Why 'decolonise' them, BLM? They were built by white men - clearly the more equitable thing is to just burn them to the ground completely and be done with it, right?

Even if Darwin was racist, he was still right. They just proved it.

People who agree with Darwin are racist.

R9, it's another attempt at co-opting progressive sensitivities into potentially harmful/destructive paths. Like the protestors who gather for a peaceful demonstration until some of them heed the troll voices on Twitter urging them to burn it all down.

It's not originating with progressive sources, but with impersonators from the far-right, frequently from overseas. Violent or destructive rhetoric is key to identifying it.

See the Seattle Times article, business/technology, titled "𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐛𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐲 𝐬𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧. 𝐇𝐞𝐫𝐞’𝐬 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐩." (It won't link here.)

Fucking OP is a lowlife scum from Crimea. Cancel her!!!

But what about the Awards?

And be replaced with what R8?

The man's been dead for nearly 200 years. I don't think he cares.

Science by white raycist old guy should must be to cancel because he is not nice to teach people. My vairst lady will lead we to the right way our heart must go on and on. We don't need sciense, we only need luv alright.

Just another day of America on its marathon race to primitivism and ignorance.

South Africa's elite explains how science is racist.

This is why he won.

Whatevs.

Unless Darwin himself owned slaves and supported slavery I don't give a fuck. As for "Darwinism", it's an imaginative theory of creation that is basically capitalist biology. The truth is that no one knows how life developed on Earth as it did. Human weren't there to see it.

I hope R24 is joking, but somehow I doubt it.

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[quote]The truth is that no one knows how life developed on Earth as it did.

Other than the Creator.

The BRITS are ever so WOKE.

Please explain exactly what "Capitalist biology" is, R24.

Far left and religious right. Now two sides of the same coin.

R31, at least when you disagree with them, the religious right doesn't hit you over the head with a bicycle chain.

You're right R32, they hang you from a tree.

Just wait until the new left wokies find out what Voltaire thought of Africans.

Intelligence, reason, knowledge, discovery, and invention must be decolonized!

Please, please let humans go extinct before we drive all other animals and plant life into extinction. Humans need to go.

Ayayay... Darwinism isn’t about stupid vs smart. All living things evolve based on their environment. Plants, animals, humans... everything.

R33, since almost all of the lynchings in the early part of the 1900s took place in the south, it's a safe bet that those committing the crime were all Democrats.

R38, that was literally 100 years ago. There is absolutely no relevancy to the point you’re making to the world today. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Congrats you win the Darwin Award for Dumbest Comment Today.

Amen, R39. Now tell the woke crowd this.

They already know, r40. It’s the right wing cretins who bring it up.

To be truthful, Darwin was a vile human being.

Exactly, R37! Creationists have been using "evolution is a racist concept!" as a gotcha for years. It isn't. Evolution isn't a hierarchy; it's just a question of which creatures survive best in a given environment.

Why is there a cutoff point at which we care about slavery? It seems to revolve entirely around the U.S.

R42 How so?

Does he have an OnlyFans?

[quote]I hope R24 is joking, but somehow I doubt it.

He looks to be actively trolling, R25.

[quote]Please explain exactly what "Capitalist biology" is, R24.

It's not anything, R30, except something trollsock R24 just coined on the fly. It's illustrative of the same process at work in the attack on Darwin - some right-wing troll suggests an absurd criticism online, and unsuspecting progressives, not realizing where it's coming from, and already critical of capitalism, pick it up as though it was a real thing and start spreading it.

Remember, rejection of evolutionary biology is a right-wing Christian fundamentalist trope.

[quote]R31, at least when you disagree with them, the religious right doesn't hit you over the head with a bicycle chain.

When they're dressed in black from head to toe, wearing a motorcycle helmet to conceal their identity, and they're pretending to be "Antifa" at a protest, they do.

The goalposts aren’t moving. You’re just imagining it.

And you’re a racist misogynist, too!

R22 Exactly. One who has quite a following on Twitter Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray, posts a lot of Antifa scaremongering, pro Trump, anti Biden etc, and is actually posting from Malaysia. I think Andy Ngo is also posting from outside the US.

I do think much of the protests are losing the plot. There was a another protest today on Golden Gate Bridge, why?? Who knows. I think young people are just needing a damn outlet! It’s all they are allowed to do. I am tired of all this woke negativity.

Right now we are soon to b living in Brave New World. Huxley..had it scarily right.

Not trolling at all, R47.

It's no coincidence that Darwin grew up in Adam Smith's England. His notion of 'survival of the fittest' is an adaptation of the invisible hand of the market, applied to biology. Darwinism as widely professed is an historical story, it is not a hard science. It is closer to Rudyard Kipling than it is to Newton or Einstein. It is unfalsifiable -- meaning it lacks the primary criterion to be a real science. Karl Popper wrote extensively on this.

One needn't be a fundie to say these things; one need only be decently educated and think a little.

R38, slavery ended over 150 years ago. The last lynching by Democrats was less than 60 years ago. Which is more relevant?

[Quote] I think young people are just needing a damn outlet! It’s all they are allowed to do.

When the statue-toppling frenzy started here in the UK, I did wonder if some of the protesters (at least, the white ones) were jumping on the bandwagon out of frustration at three months of lockdown. Suddenly they had a "noble" reason to mingle with other people, vent their anger, etc. - and they knew that the police were reluctant to intervene, because the protests were sparked by police brutality in the first place.

The museum will most likely 'review' this by tweaking a bit of label text or shifting things around in a case - I work in a big museum and this sort of things happens all the time and isn't that new. The Press strike the appropriate position for their demography , there is a bit of Twitter fuss then it all dies down. Often the museum is just doing something it would do anyway, but takes the opportunity to negate a bit of controversy. My museum recently moved something from being free-standing into a case, to help conservation and also reduce the risk of woke vandalism, while it publicly talked about reviewing and updating. Easy win.

R55 is correct. But I do wish to point out that the Telegraph being referred to as "right-wing" and therefore "unreliable" above is a typical example someone making accusations whilst not seeing the beam in his own eye.

The Telegraph is a broadsheet, and a respected one, and one of Britain's oldest newspapers. It is centre-right, not the Express, the SUN, the Mirror, or the Mail, and is no more "unreliable" for being centre-right than the Independent is for being well to the left of centre. I could of course bring up the BBC, which charges a heft licence fee from everyone regardless of political persuasion whilst forcing its own increasingly biased agenda down everyone's throat.

Respected professional journalists work for the Telegraph - which, by the way, in the interests of free speech, took down its paywall this weekend to counteract those far-left "champions of the truth" in Extinction Rebellion who cut off the means of distributing the print version.

But that's the far left for you (and there are rising complaints even within ER about infiltration of the far left): "unreliable".

The Telegraph is no less reliable than other self-pronounced media outlets with biases: The Guardian, the Independent, the New York TIMES.

Another reason why I as a gay man do not even identify as liberal even though I was leftist as a naive youth. The liberal/left has gone off the deep end in logic and reason. Embarrassing too even read the daily dispatches from these clowns.

Where's Marianne Williamson when we need her!!! One love.

Facts aren’t racist.

Hilarious to read R56 asserting the quality of the Telegraph, which is aggressively 'Boris and Brexit' Central these days, against the 'agenda-driven' BBC!

R55 is correct, in normal times. Not so sure now.

R60 - read the post again. No one mentioned "quality". The issue was "reliability" on the basis of political bias.

As for Boris and BREXIT - yes, the Telegraph is pro-Brexit. It's also had several pieces up in recent days criticising Boris' handling of the pandemic AND the trade talks - the headline this morning was that a high-ranking member of the Civil Service quit over Johnson's mutterings about tearing up the Withdrawal Bill.

But then, you wouldn't have noticed articles critical of Johnson in the Telegraph, would you?

You're proving my point: all an entity needs to be is in disagreement with your political viewpoint and it is, ipso facto, "unreliable".

The BBC admitted several years ago that it had avoided tough programming on the impact of immigration because it was afraid of being called racist.

So, tell me again how much better the BBC is than the Telegraph in its reportage?

OK, R62: the BBC is much better than the Telegraph in its reportage.

Yes the BBC goes for the big stuff.

BBC bans football commentators from saying 'racist' phrases such as cakewalk, nitty gritty, sold down the river and uppity as part of racial bias training

The BBC held an 'avoiding racial bias' training session with their on-air talent

The purpose of the session was to avoid using certain words or phrases

A total of 450 people from broadcasting took part, Sportsmail understands

The BBC held an 'avoiding racial bias' training session with their sports commentators on Tuesday, listing the words and phrases which they must avoid during the new season.

'Cakewalk', 'nitty gritty', 'sold down the river' and 'uppity' were among those on the banned list, Sportsmail can reveal, along with 'blackballed', 'blacklisted', 'black mark' and 'whiter than white'.

Those tuning into the webinar were also warned about how describing black players as having 'pace' and/or 'power' could see them 'fall into the trap of racial stereotyping'.

On describing a player as having 'pace and power', the guide added: 'Is there a danger of spreading a perception that black players' success is purely based on their athleticism and doesn't require hard work and intelligence? Do you need to spend more time thinking about how to explain the variety of reasons for a black player's success?'

The colonists were so stupid from 1619 on, if you know what I mean.

The West is killing itself. It’s letting the children tear things apart.

We’ll take the wheel now.

The BBC extorts a fairly high licence fee from everyone, therefore it has a duty to balance in reporting. Instead, it took the money and then set itself up as the Woke Czar of Culture in Britain. It's reportage is heavily slanted, and it stocked panels on BREXIT before and after the referendum with Remainers, something it later admitted doing.

The BBC is like the monarchy: if it doesn't maintain at least a pretence of balance, it forfeits its right to taking EVERYONE's money and asserting that it has some special place in the nation's culture.

The Telegraph has never pretended to be anything but the centre-right newspaper it has always been. It doesn't take a broad-based license fee, and it is neither a tabloid nor Breitbart.

If you want to dance, you have to pay the band. The BBC, like Harry and Meghan, needs either to forego public funding, in which case it can get as political as it likes, or realise that with public funding, it has a duty to the public to fulfill the requirements of balance.

As it is, the BBC has made a complete arse of itself in recent years, its integrity is in shreds in the mind of the public, and the licence fee is teetering on a precipice of anger.

Except, of course, amongst the Woke who believe everything it says and does.

Oddly, the Telegraph has no such woes to contend with. Anyone is free to read it, disagree with it, not read it, not pay for it, etc.

[quote] As it is, the BBC has made a complete arse of itself in recent years, its integrity is in shreds in the mind of the public, and the licence fee is teetering on a precipice of anger.

Agree.

the BBC has made a complete arse of itself in recent years, its integrity is in shreds in the mind of the public

Second only to the Iraqi Information Minister the funniest moment to me of the Gulf War was the BBC reporter on the screen debunking American claims the strongly defended Baghdad Airport had been captured. The American host network (CNN?) just let him talk and sneer without telling him they now had split the screen so he was speaking on his side unaware the other side of the screen showed substantial armored and mechanized US forces driving through the Airport's front gate.

Good times.

[quote] On describing a player as having 'pace and power', the guide added: 'Is there a danger of spreading a perception that black players' success is purely based on their athleticism and doesn't require hard work and intelligence? Do you need to spend more time thinking about how to explain the variety of reasons for a black player's success?'

This is absolutely crazy! It's like a parody. This sort of thing does absolutely nothing to combat racism.

R70, I don't think the actual purpose of all of this racial wokeness is to combat racism. It seems more like its purpose is to give a few people an excuse to bully other people and boss them around while pretending to do good.

Do you think the fires in Oregon were started by ignition rebellion ?

Poor babies--get over it!

Women and minorities have been cancelled for thousands of years. All the female gods and culture was cancelled by feudalism.

R42 Who told you that Darwin was a vile human being.

R34, they only read what they are told to read.

R74 - Open a history book. Feudalism of one form of another was the norm throughout human history until, in the West, after the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. Or did you suppose that China and the Sultans of the Middle East or the Pharoahs were all leaders of democracies? It was all authoritarian leaders, state religion, etc.

In the West, it was the rise of monotheism and, particularly, Christianity, that cancelled female gods - the Church built its temples right over former pagan temples and the Horned God became Satan.

And unless you're speaking of Jews, "minorities" as we understand the term today was a meaningless term. The only real marginalised minority were Jews.

Female gods which is to say, paganism, and the Old Religion (which, oddly hangs in bits in some rural parts of Europe), were cancelled by monotheism and its three primary branches, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.

Well, we can now add David Hume, Father of the Enlightenment and probably one of the greatest intellectual minds Scotland ever produced, to the Cancelled. University of Edinburgh removed his name from (it must be said, an atrociously hideous modern) building because 260 years ago Hume was, as was the entire rest of the British Isles, fine with the slave trade. The removal was due to a petition with less than 2,000 signatures on it by a group of moronic snowflakes without an iota of historical perspective.

The new address is 4 George Square. The "George" stands for George Floyd, a man whose death may have been tragic and murderous, but who was still a man with a criminal record, who had no relationship to Scotland or Scottish history or Scottish culture whatsoever, who has made no contribution whatsoever to life and thought in Scotland.

The decision has brought major jeers and backlash, and a photo in yesterday's article showed a group of grinning students with their fists in the air smiling victoriusly.

David Hume - Father of the Enlightenment (whether you agree with everything he asserted or not). Replaced by an American criminal of no achievements whatsoever except to be fortuitously killed by an American police officer and provide a convenient motive for pulling entire cultures down.

The University of Edinburgh, like so much of the test of the lunatic pandering going on in Britain right now, is just another lemming heading joyfully off the cultural cliff, patting itself on the back as it heads down to the rocks below, for being so virtuous.

This will only really hurt white people. Most black people are christians or otherwise religious nuts who believe in Jesus or Allah instead of science. This only harms atheists.

Black people already hate science and evolution, that's why for every Christian white man there's 20 Christian black people. It's not shocking that they'd go after Darwin and try to devalue evolution. Next they'll go after the gays, then independent women.

I've been saying for years that BLM is just a way to re-instate religious claim over a society that had mostly moved on from it, due to how many black people are still religious loons. The religious oligarchy is coming, one way or another.

[quote] The removal was due to a petition with less than 2,000 signatures on it by a group of moronic snowflakes without an iota of historical perspective.

That describes EVERY cancellation.

R78 Wow. Goody Wokus has placed the scarlet R onto old Hume.

R82 - A more apt description of this could not be found.

R78