Oregon hunter, 66, gored to death by bull elk he had shot and injured with an arrow the previous day

[quote] So, he decided to search the injured bull the next morning,

So he frisked an elk?

Was he menstruating?

This is too much.

Please tell me the bull lived.

I'm totally against killing an animal for sport.

Too bad about the hunter, but wonder if before he died he suddenly developed a better appreciation of karma.

Poetic justice.

This story hurts my heart for the elk. Fuck the hunter. He got what he deserved. RIP to the Elk.

In another incident, an Arkansas hunter was killed after a deer that he shot and thought was dead, allegedly got back up and attacked him. The incident happened on October 22, 2019, at around 6.30 pm during a hunt in Yellville near Fayetteville.

The victim identified as Thomas Alexander was an experienced hunter, who had lived in the Yellville, Arkansas, area for several years. According to Keith Stephens, a spokesperson for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, the 66-year-old was using a muzzleloader when he shot the buck. “He apparently went over to the buck and it got up and attacked him," Stephens added. Alexander reportedly called his wife and rushed to the nearby hospital at Baxter Regional Medical Center in Mountain Home at approximately 8 pm, where he was declared dead.

That elk was minding his own business and that man had no business trying to murder him like that. Just all around senseless death.

[quote] Please tell me the bull lived.

The article says it was killed.

When a citizen's arrest doesn't work in the animal kingdom.

#ElkLivesMatter

Oh Deer!

One less Trump voter.

Hunters? Oh, they are just cunters. Civilized people don't end others' lives. Deplorable. Gag and die.

Imagine the pain that poor animal was in all night.

Just on a finer point it doesn’t say anywhere in the article that either of the men that were killed were hunting purely for sport. I’d hazard a guess that if it was deer / elk that were being hunted then it was likely for food or a sport / food combo. So anyone here waxing on about poetic justice that 1) eats meat, 2) wears leather 3) eats diary or uses any products containing animal products or tested on animals needs to glance in the mirror.

I don't object too strenuously if the hunter is going to eat the animal and feed his family, etc etc. And if there is overpopulation. But you take your risks and he failed and sounds like he was a LOUSY hunter and made an animal suffer.

Oh no! He got the Berkowitzes!

R16, leaving your food to suffer for hours before it dies is something they'd do in China

Poor animal. Hunter got what he deserved.

That's what Bambi's father should have done.

Did all the little critters feast on his carcass?

Told you I was hardcore.

Thinning the herd.

More proof that karma is bull.

I’d like to substitute “Oregon hunter, 66...”, with “Trump’s spawn, Beavis and Butthead, gored to death...”

R16 the guy was specifically an 'archery hunter' it says in the article, so far more likely to cause pain to the animal. He was some sort of fantasist doing it for fun, whatever the claims about eating the meat..

At least the elk got his revenge and took down his tormentor / murderer with him.

Haha!

Ever notice, Democrats go into the woods to appreciate nature and hug trees while Republicans go in the woods to kill thing?

#TeamBullElk

Filed under: "More Proof Animals NOT Dumb"

Take the gun (or any other weapon) out of the human's hand and the wild animals win each and every time.

Now who's the dumb animal?

#TeamElk

R16 is right. Humans are omnivores and eating flesh is an important part of our diet. I think it’s much better for animals to live free in their natural environment and have a fighting chance in the hunt, and to (usually) die quickly (this story is the exception), than to lived in a dirty, overcrowded pen full of other frightened, miserable animals, then to be dispatched by a boltgun to the skull.

Those of you decrying this hunt while eating burgers, chicken or even eggs — you underwrite that endless mass torture.

R35? Which part of allowing the animal to suffer all night didn't you understand?

I have no problem with hunters who hunt for food - I do have a problem with allowing the "food" to be in pain all night while you go sleep KNOWING the animal is alive and undoubtedly in horrific pain.

R35 I would agree with you except for your assertion that meat is an important part of our diet and I would suggest that it can be an important part of our diet but does not necessarily need to be. Vegan diet in its existence proves that (I’m not vegan). Even if chosen as a foodstuff it seems it should be eaten far less (twice a week rather than twice daily) and only fish or white meat, that red meat really is not good for people to eat (stomach cancer, heart problems etc).

I agree that we should rely less on intensive farming systems for meat consumed. This would make meat more expensive which would reduce its consumption by default. Will be required for the continued safety of the planet by all accounts anyway. Sorry rambling!

You can't just handwave this story away, R35 - you can't really believe America's fun hunters are all crack shots and large numbers of they target don't bleed slowly to death and so on. Attempting to contort this story to suit your own hobby-horse is ridiculous.

Hunting is fine if you don’t hunt endangered species, it’s legal to kill it, and you or someone else will eat the meat.

I don’t buy the meat being eaten by prisoners. The “donated the meat” story is usually BS.

R35 Great attempt at whataboutism! No, animal flesh isn’t “ an important part” of our diet. I haven’t eaten meat since 1995.

If an elk gores a hunter to death in Oregon and no one collected his mail-in ballot, did his vote really count?

Serious question: how is eating eggs abusive to animals?...

The friend murdered him and presented this absurd scenario. An investigation will be done, and family and friends interviewed. We will find justice for this hunter and elf, who has been falsely accused of murder.

R43 There’s tons of articles about it...

[quote] Ever notice, Democrats go into the woods to appreciate nature and hug trees while Republicans go in the woods to kill thing?

And then they cut the forest down to drill for oil

It's now clear that humans do not need meat or fish, or any animal protein, to thrive. Vegans who've been such for their whole lives are generally much healthier than non-vegans (although part of that is that people who chose to be vegan are probably more likely to take good care of themselves). Dr. Michael Greger's book, How Not to Die, proves this as well.

Furthermore, animal agriculture is one of the major causes of greenhouse gasses. And, of course, there's the argument that animals shouldn't be considered food for humans for, well, many reasons.

[quote] Serious question: how is eating eggs abusive to animals?...

It’s not if the hens are well cared for. If it’s not fertilized, it’s of no use to the hen.

But we live in an age of factory farming, and it’s difficult to find eggs that aren’t mass produced through abuse of the animals.

Team Elk

The elk pulled something more than just a rabbit out of his hat.

When it comes to animal on human attacks, I always stick up for the animal. The human is usually an idiot or worse.

[quote] Imagine the pain that poor animal was in all night.

Now imagine how the elk feels.

R48. Male chicks are ground alive in egg farming.

It's one thing to keep a hen for eggs, but most Americans eat eggs produced under conditions that are dreadful. to chickens/chicks.

I just sent this to my uncle, a huge elk hunting fan, with the words "Thinking of You".

Isn’t that pretty much what I said, r53?

R47 = LIES. R47 = food fetishist.

Masters in nutrition here.

Risks and real damage enjoyed by man "vegan" fetishists: hormone imbalances, leaky guts, multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies, DEPRESSION and orthorexia of course. Also being annoying nags in social settings.

The fat ass meat eating Americans are not healthy. And tragic meat eaters have gotten their due karma time and time again.

This reminds me of when the guys were shooting at a saguaro cactus (enormous) and it fell on them. Finito.

RE: eggs

I pay 2 dollars more and get pasture raised chickens' eggs. I can visit them if I so choose--the hens, not the eggs. This month's Hen of the Month is Ivy.

Love it, may all hunted animals kill their hunters and good riddance.

Let’s also not forget that COVID 19 originated (almost certainly) as a result of the meat processing industry.

Well if you call filthy live bush meat markets "the meat processing industry".

They’re not much worse than our factory farms

R63 point being if people weren’t eating meat it wouldn’t have happened. And as R64 says you think the factory farms in the west are much better?

Yes they are gross but US meat industry has not gifted us an HIV or Coronavirus, yet.

China’s hadn’t either until this year

There’s always a first time

we don't have bush meat markets in the US.

well, maybe something approaching that in hunting season in rural areas. I dunno. not being folks, myself.

[bold]GOOD[/bold]

R4 & R5 totally agree, POS hunter got what was coming to him

Domesticated animals suffer 1000 times more--filthy feed lots, cattle prods, lining up to be murdered, sensing the end, it's a horror show. Please consider eating Impossible burgers, Beyond Beef, etc.

There's enough cruelty in the world. Also, meat production is fucking the planet.

R41, and you look fabulous!

No kidding, I agree with you. But I ate meat (not much of it) until I was 55, so I can't fault the younger omnivores here.

Pity the hunter wasn’t left gored and dying overnight so he could suffer what he inflicted on the elk.

This sounds like a moody art movie.