Because of course
Trump thinks soldiers who died in wars are "suckers" and "losers"
|by Anonymous||reply 600||September 6, 2020 8:24 PM|
Nothing surprises me at this point.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||September 3, 2020 10:15 PM|
Trump is a piece of shit who doesn't know how the real world works. Not everyone was able to dodge the draft multiple times. I hope Biden calls that one out at the debate!
|by Anonymous||reply 2||September 3, 2020 10:16 PM|
R2, me too!
|by Anonymous||reply 3||September 3, 2020 10:21 PM|
Yes Biden campaign needs to target this particularly in areas with a large military pop
|by Anonymous||reply 4||September 3, 2020 10:22 PM|
Stupid cunt needs to STFU or a veteran just might take him out... and I don't mean to lunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||September 3, 2020 10:26 PM|
We lurves him and we veterans.
Bounty? Oh, you mean the paper towels?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||September 3, 2020 10:30 PM|
He is such a fucking pig. We all knew that, but shit, sometimes the fucking piggery just seems worse. Just wish this kind of thing would penetrate into the ranks of the many soldiers and veterans who think that because an R after his name he's automatically a great patriot and a lover of the military.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||September 3, 2020 10:31 PM|
This must come to the forefront in the news. Veterans will vote against him.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||September 3, 2020 10:35 PM|
Trump Bone Spurs who lied to get out of entering the service at the time when the Vietnam War was underway is a coward...and a loser himself. Don't forget, he also had someone take his SATs to get into college.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||September 3, 2020 10:46 PM|
And yet this will make him even more beloved by the Deplorables.
"He says his mind."
"You know where he's coming from."
And by far, the most important: "He isn't PC."
|by Anonymous||reply 10||September 3, 2020 10:50 PM|
R10 You missed the part where they deny it first, or say he doesn't mean it. And then when it comes out it's true/he does mean it - that's when they say what you said.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||September 3, 2020 11:17 PM|
r10, don't forget the Deplorable cry regarding EVERYTHING:
|by Anonymous||reply 12||September 3, 2020 11:17 PM|
I was just joking.
Like when I said we should cut down coronavirus testing so the numbers don't look bad
And when I said everyone should vote twice
And when I said we should destroy the post office so people can't vote by mail
I'm a real kidder
|by Anonymous||reply 13||September 3, 2020 11:21 PM|
All I can say is if this cunt gets reelected, you guys deserve every fucking thing that's gonna come at you.
He's a fucking disgrace and how his defeat is not a certainty is frankly beyond me.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||September 3, 2020 11:26 PM|
Here's an article from 2017 on how he was screwing veterans.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||September 3, 2020 11:26 PM|
And don't forget his declaration to disinherit any child of his who joins the military.
Because people who volunteer are suckers. Such a Sonny Corleone attitude. "Your country ain't your blood."
|by Anonymous||reply 16||September 3, 2020 11:28 PM|
People who lie die of cancer! Muahahaha!
|by Anonymous||reply 17||September 3, 2020 11:28 PM|
LMFAO, I can totally see him saying something like that. I remember at that time there were rumours that the reason for cancellation was his concern for the hair.
As I said before, just let Trump do the campaigning. Biden just can sit back, relax, and enjoy his march to the White House.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||September 3, 2020 11:28 PM|
Nothing surprises me, and what's so stupid, is some people think things like this will impact his supporters and maybe make them change their mind. It won't. His supporters worship him. The man could slice the throat of an infant on stage, and his worshippers would figure out a way to still defend him.
He needs to drop dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||September 3, 2020 11:30 PM|
[quote]he was screwing veterans
|by Anonymous||reply 20||September 3, 2020 11:30 PM|
Fact: Deplorables love Trump for one reason and one reason only:
Trump hates the same people they do: niggers, spics, fags, chinks, gooks and Jews.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||September 3, 2020 11:30 PM|
I'm thinking about changing the name of Veterans Day to "Loser Day"
I think it has a nice ring to it
|by Anonymous||reply 22||September 3, 2020 11:35 PM|
Well they did lose - their lives. Suckers is a little harder to defend. Were they suckers for being inducted into the military? No.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||September 3, 2020 11:59 PM|
[quote] The man could slice the throat of an infant on stage, and his worshippers would figure out a way to still defend him.
Yes but didn’t God ask the same of Abraham??
|by Anonymous||reply 24||September 3, 2020 11:59 PM|
I’m sure they’d find a way to whataboutism it.
You libs like killing babies so why should you care?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||September 4, 2020 12:05 AM|
There was a Military Times poll conducted this summer (late July/early August) that showed Trump losing to Biden among active service members. Trump was at 37.4 percent, Biden at 41.3. His unfavorables were higher among officers (59%) than enlisted troops (47%).
His sociopathcally contemptuous attitude isn't winning him anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||September 4, 2020 12:12 AM|
Right after I saw this I checked in to see what the conservatives on my social media accounts are talking about. And they are all OUTRAGED that nobody is giving the US Marshals credit for saving 39 children in Georgia and Ohio this week!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||September 4, 2020 12:21 AM|
Republican Voters Against Trump
|by Anonymous||reply 28||September 4, 2020 12:36 AM|
Post that everywhere. Trump is losing the military vote to Biden.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||September 4, 2020 12:45 AM|
He called my dad, a loser ? My dad ? 😡😡😡
|by Anonymous||reply 30||September 4, 2020 12:51 AM|
Isn't a lot of voting by military personnel done by post?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||September 4, 2020 12:56 AM|
All the more reason for him to want to stop vote by mail, R31.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||September 4, 2020 12:59 AM|
November 11 shall be known as Suckers and Losers day!
|by Anonymous||reply 33||September 4, 2020 1:14 AM|
Arlington National Cemetery will now be known as Loserville
|by Anonymous||reply 34||September 4, 2020 1:16 AM|
Rachel Maddow just read the entire article aloud.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||September 4, 2020 1:19 AM|
LOL, he should hold a press conference tomorrow to clarify and elaborate on these remarks.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||September 4, 2020 1:21 AM|
Has there ever been a president who so obviously and viciously hates the very country he is supposed to serve and protect? It's astounding.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||September 4, 2020 1:21 AM|
Biden needs to make a formal military speech calling Trump out on his contempt for those who serve.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||September 4, 2020 1:22 AM|
You all are full of shit!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||September 4, 2020 1:24 AM|
This is repellant. Trump won the veteran's vote 2-1 even after disparaging a Gold Star family as well as the service of POW Sen. John McCain! Fuck them! Fuck veterans, they really are "losers" and shit for brains for overwhelmingly electing Donald Trump.
If vets are so degraded why do we have to pretend to ever give a fuck about them again? I certainly do not. Maybe they can earn my respect someday, but I still won't really give a shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||September 4, 2020 1:28 AM|
Clearly, this man doesn't think, "karma" applies to him.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||September 4, 2020 1:46 AM|
This is the point at which I can no longer read stories about Trump. This is beyond appalling.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||September 4, 2020 1:47 AM|
Why aren't all armed services people outraged by this?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||September 4, 2020 1:51 AM|
This is causing outrage across the nation.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||September 4, 2020 1:53 AM|
He's such a fucking piece of lousy shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 4, 2020 1:54 AM|
actual former soldiers are on Twitter defending trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 4, 2020 1:55 AM|
r43, the ones who are deplorables are
|by Anonymous||reply 47||September 4, 2020 1:56 AM|
Sorry, that should be "the ones who AREN'T deplorables are"
|by Anonymous||reply 48||September 4, 2020 1:57 AM|
I get sick of seeing this fucker salute the marines when he stumbles off Marine One. I'd also like to hear what Tammy Duckworth thinks about this draft dodging dope denigrating vets.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||September 4, 2020 2:00 AM|
Miss Hogan Gidley says "Stop lying about my man!"
|by Anonymous||reply 50||September 4, 2020 2:05 AM|
Perhaps Pig Man will be finally taken down by his own filthy mouth.
I think there are lots of people in D.C. and beyond who have been saving up dirt on Trump. The next two months could be very difficult for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||September 4, 2020 2:06 AM|
Trump didn't want to honor slain American soldiers in France because the rain might ruin his hairpiece.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||September 4, 2020 2:07 AM|
This is the kind of shit we need recordings of him saying.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||September 4, 2020 2:09 AM|
We now need John Kelly to come out and condemn Trump and endorse Biden.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||September 4, 2020 2:11 AM|
O'Donnell is shaken in his show right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||September 4, 2020 2:13 AM|
Watch this clip from the Rachel Maddow show this week. It's made by VoteVets.org against trump. I immediately went online and donated to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||September 4, 2020 2:16 AM|
Everyone on O'Donnell is SHAKEN
|by Anonymous||reply 57||September 4, 2020 2:16 AM|
Check out VoteVets.org, donate if you can, they're putting ads on TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||September 4, 2020 2:16 AM|
Well they just got GOLD for ads for the next 2 months.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||September 4, 2020 2:17 AM|
Biden needs to get in front of wounded vets ASAP
|by Anonymous||reply 60||September 4, 2020 2:21 AM|
Has Joni weighed in?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||September 4, 2020 2:28 AM|
Firing squad by the military seems an apt punishment. Or Secret Service turns their backs on him. I can dream.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||September 4, 2020 2:35 AM|
R62 I can imagine him doing a Ceausescu saying he is the father of the nation etc, Put the whole family in front of a firing squad. You guys need to shoot some leaders to put manners on the rest.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||September 4, 2020 2:38 AM|
More sources are confirming the story
|by Anonymous||reply 64||September 4, 2020 2:39 AM|
The story is convincing not just because it has multiple sources who agree, but because all it does is fill in some backstory to the facts that were out there the whole time: the outrageous thing he said about McCain, his refusal to go to the WWI cemetery, his whole contemptuous demeanor, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||September 4, 2020 2:46 AM|
Needs to be a Biden ad. the sort of thing Clinton was too inept to exploit in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||September 4, 2020 2:49 AM|
NY Times hasn't picked this up yet. It is inflammatory so I guess they are waiting to do their own investigating?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||September 4, 2020 2:50 AM|
When McCain died...Trump told sr staff, according to 3 sources... “We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral” ...he became furious...when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. “What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser.”
|by Anonymous||reply 68||September 4, 2020 2:55 AM|
R65 He also called Bush Sr a "loser" for being shot down during WW2.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||September 4, 2020 2:55 AM|
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 19m I was never a big fan of John McCain, disagreed with him on many things including ridiculous endless wars and the lack of success he had in dealing with the VA and our great Vets, but the lowering of our Nations American Flags, and the first class funeral he was given by our.... Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
19m Country, had to be approved by me, as President, & I did so without hesitation or complaint. Quite the contrary, I felt it was well deserved. I even sent Air Force One to bring his body, in casket, from Arizona to Washington. It was my honor to do so. Also, I never called.. Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
20m ....John a loser and swear on whatever, or whoever, I was asked to swear on, that I never called our great fallen soldiers anything other than HEROES. This is more made up Fake News given by disgusting & jealous failures in a disgraceful attempt to influence the 2020 Election!
|by Anonymous||reply 70||September 4, 2020 2:58 AM|
He can't even use the word (or remember the word) "bible??"
"I like guys who weren't captured."
|by Anonymous||reply 71||September 4, 2020 3:00 AM|
Anyone who continues to support him after this is either an idiot or a psychopath like him. No excuses. Punch and delete.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||September 4, 2020 3:17 AM|
Ooh somebody's PISSED
|by Anonymous||reply 73||September 4, 2020 3:19 AM|
Mary Trump said he threatened to disown Don Jr. if he joined the military
|by Anonymous||reply 74||September 4, 2020 3:20 AM|
Andrea Mitchell @mitchellreports The AP has confirmed the accuracy of this extraordinary article. The White House has denied it. It could shatter perceptions of the President among the military. A recent Army Times poll showed declining support for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||September 4, 2020 3:21 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 76||September 4, 2020 3:21 AM|
This is for real.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||September 4, 2020 3:21 AM|
It is times like this that made my waiting in 100 degree weather for an hour after working all night in order to give this asshole the finger and yell "Go to hell, traitor!" especially rewarding.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||September 4, 2020 3:23 AM|
What a fucking piece of shit. My father is a Vietnam veteran who hates Trump and he said recently that he lot respect for fellow vets who support Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||September 4, 2020 3:24 AM|
From presidential historian Michael Beschloss
|by Anonymous||reply 80||September 4, 2020 3:25 AM|
Biden response 1/2
|by Anonymous||reply 81||September 4, 2020 3:26 AM|
Biden response 2/2
|by Anonymous||reply 82||September 4, 2020 3:27 AM|
This is unbelievable and unacceptable even for this piece of s***!!!
He needs to resign!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 83||September 4, 2020 3:28 AM|
The deplorables are going burn all their maga crap made in China.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||September 4, 2020 3:29 AM|
Obama did not let rain stop him from his Memorial Day duty.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||September 4, 2020 3:29 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 86||September 4, 2020 3:30 AM|
Twitter is burning up. I think it’s going to crash.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||September 4, 2020 3:31 AM|
I FUCKING TOLD YOU!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 88||September 4, 2020 3:31 AM|
Republicans are so depraved they would willingly vote for a admitted pedophile as long as he was a Republican.
They’re all like that. What a politician does doesn’t matter. As long as they have that magic R behind their name all of their unacceptable behavior is of absolved.
It’s more important to be republican than a good person
|by Anonymous||reply 89||September 4, 2020 3:32 AM|
On tape calling John McCain a "loser"
|by Anonymous||reply 90||September 4, 2020 3:33 AM|
Surely this will make republican senators speak out.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||September 4, 2020 3:33 AM|
When he denies calling McCain a loser, but there is VIDEO of it, and a TWEET from Trump himself in 2015 about his McCain remarks, how can anyone trust him in his denial of the rest of the story?
How can Hogan fucking Gidley or any other deplorable pretend that this doesn’t track with everyone else he’s said and done? When will people wake the FUCK up? I am so sick of these morons.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||September 4, 2020 3:36 AM|
I wish Biden would do a joint appearance with Tammy Duckworth within the next 2 days to address this story. This is beyond the pale even for Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||September 4, 2020 3:37 AM|
I've been watching some of those Republicans Voters Against Trump videos for the past month and there was one a video of a guy who said that Trump's comments about John McCain was the reason he didn't support Trump in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||September 4, 2020 3:38 AM|
These veterans get kicked around enough.
It would be nice to see them stand up to this in huge numbers.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||September 4, 2020 3:39 AM|
[quote]When he denies calling McCain a loser, but there is VIDEO of it, and a TWEET from Trump himself in 2015 about his McCain remarks, how can anyone trust him in his denial of the rest of the story?
FAKE NEWS! DEEPFAKES! I HAVE TO GO DOOKIE!
|by Anonymous||reply 96||September 4, 2020 3:39 AM|
R95 Some of them won't.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||September 4, 2020 3:39 AM|
This never stops being incredibly painful, triggering, and it rips off new layers of grief that wreak havoc on my life. I wouldn't wish any of it on my worst enemy. I truly pray for peace for my family, our grief, and for this country.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||September 4, 2020 3:45 AM|
But yet she still supports him? ^
Isn’t that the definition of an abusive relationship?
Her husband is a real piece of work too. Does she ever have black eyes at work? Wear heavy sunglasses?
She is way to quick to apologize for an abuser.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||September 4, 2020 3:47 AM|
They ones who are alive are suckers and losers for being Trump supporters, that's for damned sure
|by Anonymous||reply 100||September 4, 2020 3:47 AM|
Speaking of Mooghan McCain
|by Anonymous||reply 101||September 4, 2020 3:49 AM|
It doesn't matter whether it's true or not (I absolutely believe it's true).
The son of a bitch had to deny it and it's got legs. It's the news cycle tomorrow and into the weekend.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||September 4, 2020 3:54 AM|
It should dominate the news cycle from now til November. Why shouldn’t it? The Commander-in-Chief has contempt for service members. What the fuck!?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||September 4, 2020 3:56 AM|
r101 But her husband is all over Twitter defending Trump saying he has sources in the White House who say this isn't true at all. They're such a weird couple.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||September 4, 2020 4:00 AM|
Not just any service members, r103, he has contempt for our wounded veterans and for our veterans who sacrificed their lives on the battlefield. He is disgusting and will be rejected by all decent Americans.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||September 4, 2020 4:00 AM|
Someone kill him already, easier that block all the threads about this POS.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||September 4, 2020 4:01 AM|
r101 Sorry. I couldn't get that Twitter link to work at first. I see now that you were talking about Ben.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||September 4, 2020 4:01 AM|
At least he didn't send anyone to war. That was Joe "War Criminal" Biden.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||September 4, 2020 4:02 AM|
I think this article, along with his stunt of forcefully clearing out a public space just so he could hold a Bible upside-down on camera, have done a lot of damage to him among people who might otherwise be inclined to vote for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||September 4, 2020 4:04 AM|
My great grandfather Theodore Roosevelt jr (and his brother) are buried in Normandy.
Even as sons of a president, born into privilege, they understood they had an equal obligation to serve this great nation.
There is a “loser” here, but it is not anyone buried in Normandy.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||September 4, 2020 4:06 AM|
[quote] actual Russian trollbots posing as former soldiers are on Twitter defending trump.
Fixed it for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||September 4, 2020 4:06 AM|
We just love Trump to death, and even if he ate a live baby on national TV we would love him even more and donate to his fund!
|by Anonymous||reply 112||September 4, 2020 4:07 AM|
Keep reaching, R108, you ridiculous piece of shit
|by Anonymous||reply 113||September 4, 2020 4:07 AM|
[quote] 20m ....John a loser and swear on whatever, or whoever, I was asked to swear on, that I never called our great fallen soldiers anything other than HEROES. This is more made up Fake News given by disgusting & jealous failures in a disgraceful attempt to influence the 2020 Election!
Let's see him swear on the lives of any of his children not named Don, Eric, Tiffany, or Barron.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||September 4, 2020 4:09 AM|
“I am not a crook”
Shades of Nixon’s last political days going on here.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||September 4, 2020 4:12 AM|
[quote] Let's see him swear on the lives of any of his children not named Don, Eric, Tiffany, or Barron.
I've seen speculation that the category you're referring to isn't quite as small as he wants you to believe it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||September 4, 2020 4:14 AM|
Is he wandering the halls of the White House, talking to the portraits?
If he asks Pompeo and Barr to kneel and pray with him, we'll know it's almost over.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||September 4, 2020 4:15 AM|
I see desperate wagon-circling
|by Anonymous||reply 118||September 4, 2020 4:17 AM|
R114, I like that you think he wouldn't throw his own kids under the bus considering he literally brought his whore on the family vacation and fucking around when Barron was born.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||September 4, 2020 4:18 AM|
Guess what our favorite Southern Belle said about Trump in 2015
|by Anonymous||reply 120||September 4, 2020 4:22 AM|
When he’s kneeling, R117, here’s hoping the Secret Service tells him to “look at the flowers.”
If you don’t get the reference, just ask Carol from The Walking Dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||September 4, 2020 4:23 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 122||September 4, 2020 4:25 AM|
Well, that’s encouraging
|by Anonymous||reply 123||September 4, 2020 4:25 AM|
[quote]We now need John Kelly to come out and condemn Trump and endorse Biden.
Somebody on msnbc said he has refused to comment, the weasel.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||September 4, 2020 4:28 AM|
from a new, separate WaPo story:
"the president told senior advisers that he didn’t understand why the U.S. gov't placed such value on finding soldiers missing in action because they had performed poorly gotten caught & deserved what they got"
|by Anonymous||reply 125||September 4, 2020 4:30 AM|
I hope that when Trump gets voted out of office in November that millions of Americans show up outside of the WH gates and chant "LOSER!" at the top of their lungs for the entire day and on into the night. And then come back in January when he makes his official exit.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||September 4, 2020 4:31 AM|
General Kelly may not confirm it but the Atlantic article had four sources for it. FOUR.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||September 4, 2020 4:33 AM|
He opens his mouth and the shit just flies. I'm surprised everyone around him doesn't wear a wire. Imagine the money they could make selling the recordings.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||September 4, 2020 4:36 AM|
[quote]20m ....John a loser and swear on whatever, or whoever, I was asked to swear on, that I never called our great fallen soldiers anything other than HEROES. This is more made up Fake News given by disgusting & jealous failures in a disgraceful attempt to influence the 2020 Election!
This denial might have been vaguely believable about a thousand lies ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||September 4, 2020 4:49 AM|
[quote] Anyone check on Susan Collins? She usually faints on nights like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||September 4, 2020 4:50 AM|
[quote]Has there ever been a president who so obviously and viciously hates the very country he is supposed to serve and protect? It's astounding.
The absurdity of it all is impossible to grasp!
|by Anonymous||reply 131||September 4, 2020 4:52 AM|
[quote]Let's see him swear on the lives of any of his children not named Don, Eric, Tiffany, or Barron.
His psychopathy leaves him with no conscience and no intervening sense of obligation to anyone but himself, so none of his children are exempt from an eventual betrayal.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||September 4, 2020 4:54 AM|
He would disown Junior Mint if he ever joined the service. You know damn well if someone came after him with an AK-47 and Jr. was by his side, Trump would duck behind him so his son would get shot.
I commented before about his saluting the marine when his gets off Marine One. That really pisses me off to no end. How dare he?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||September 4, 2020 5:03 AM|
R126 I love that. That idea should float around Twitter to make it a reality.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||September 4, 2020 5:05 AM|
His deplorable base won't care though. That's the sad unfortunate depressing part of this whole thing. To them Trump can't do any wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||September 4, 2020 5:07 AM|
[quote]This denial might have been vaguely believable about a thousand lies ago.
Meh, not to me. I've said it before without the slightest exaggeration: If on 9/11 -as the towers were coming down and it was known Bin Laden had done it- the Bin Laden family came to Trump with a real estate deal and no one would find out, he'd do it without even a second's hesitation.
He attempted to do business in Cuba during the embargo, his "modeling" agency used to teach foreign girls how to skirt US immigration laws and much of his money laundered through foreign countries or he launders it for them. Make him anything but a white male and his treachery would disqualify him from even being a citizen let alone hold political office.
He's an absolute shit who is the personification of white privilege, affirmative action and entitlement.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||September 4, 2020 5:09 AM|
His fat ass would've been cowering in the bunker on 9-11.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||September 4, 2020 5:12 AM|
Trump IS the Martin Sheen character in The Dead Zone
|by Anonymous||reply 138||September 4, 2020 5:14 AM|
R135, there are veterans who lost their brothers in arms during one of our many wars.
Donald can deny it all he wants, we can all hear him in those quotes. We all saw and heard him denigrate John McCain.
Where's Moogan McCain or is she staying quiet at home with he Nazi-wanna-be husband?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||September 4, 2020 5:15 AM|
R139 see R98 and R101
|by Anonymous||reply 140||September 4, 2020 5:22 AM|
This couldn't more in line with who Trump is and his parasitic supporters are saying it's not true, but I'm damned sure that if they were made to bet their lives that it wasn't true, they wouldn't take that bet.
They should probably start working on their low-life excuses -as they always do- when it's officially confirmed.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||September 4, 2020 5:24 AM|
OK, it's not a nice thing to say, but Nancy got a haircut, so,... both sides.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||September 4, 2020 5:25 AM|
[quote]Has Joni weighed in?
r61, Joni Ernst's head is so far up Trump's ass you can see the soles of her shoes.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||September 4, 2020 5:28 AM|
[quote] Joni Ernst's head is so far up Trump's ass you can see the soles of her shoes.
It will be fascinating to see how Ernst, Crenshaw and Cotton dance around. I'm guessing they go with straight gaslighting and claim he didn't say those things that we all have heard him say...
|by Anonymous||reply 144||September 4, 2020 5:50 AM|
[quote] For the first time in your life be brave: Resign and face the consequences.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||September 4, 2020 5:51 AM|
It really is time for him to just resign.
It’s the best thing for everybody.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||September 4, 2020 5:53 AM|
How long will it be before the MAGAs start offering up daughters and granddaughters to him?
The only good thing about trumps presidency is ends the Republican party’s claim of being being morally superior political party.
I wonder who will be the next standard bearer of the republican party?
It’s too bad Ted Bundy is dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||September 4, 2020 5:55 AM|
I love this old guy:
|by Anonymous||reply 148||September 4, 2020 6:08 AM|
From Retired Major General Paul Eaton
|by Anonymous||reply 149||September 4, 2020 6:37 AM|
All symptoms of Anti-Social Personality Disorder.
Trump is a sociopath.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||September 4, 2020 7:24 AM|
Why would anyone not believe he said these ugly things about the military? He claims he knows more than the generals, trashed the Gold Star Khan family, shit on John McCain, claimed STD's of the 70's in NYC were his "personal Viet Nam, destroyed or tried to destroy the reputations of the Vindman brothers, and on and on. Plus he sneaks off and calls Pooty poot Vlad in secret for pillow talk and advice on election strategy.
Joe Biden better get a food and beverage taster or he'll end up like that Russian guy in the German hospital -Novolny? Christ he cannot get away with this-keep pounding on the mangehead -he's about to start counting flowers on the wall...
|by Anonymous||reply 151||September 4, 2020 8:09 AM|
Military "hawk" Lindsey, who praises Trump daily, says nothing about Pootie's bounty on U.S. soldiers. Nor has LG responded to Trump's comments about WW troops fallen in combat.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||September 4, 2020 8:43 AM|
Trump didn't want to get his hair wet in the rain.
Yet, all the pee pee girls.....
|by Anonymous||reply 153||September 4, 2020 9:23 AM|
Fact: Deplorables love Trump for one reason and one reason only:
Trump hates the same people they do: niggers, spics, fags, chinks, gooks and Jews.
You forgot women (or uppity women, that is); other than that, you're spot on
I realize he's probably on the board of some government contractor and won't do it, but General Mattis needs to give an interview with someone tough like Chris Wallace and tell the world exactly who Dump is. It won't convince everyone, but it will peal enough off, particularly with the military vote.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||September 4, 2020 9:50 AM|
[quote] It will be fascinating to see how Ernst, Crenshaw and Cotton dance around. I'm guessing they go with straight gaslighting and claim he didn't say those things that we all have heard him say...
They’ll just say they haven’t read the article/didn’t hear about it. The same thing they all do when trump tweets something really offensive or outrageous.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||September 4, 2020 10:39 AM|
He's already losing with the military and this new piece in the Atlantic will drive his support there through the floor.
He's born to lose and he's going to lose.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||September 4, 2020 10:40 AM|
As a native New Yorker I knew this about him before he ran for president. The fact that conservatives, patriots and military and vets would support him and stand by him depsite all him obvious distdain and lack of respect for military service and war heroes always intrigued me.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||September 4, 2020 10:51 AM|
It's fascinating to see Trumpsters claim this isn't true, because my own father, a WWII veteran, was pretty much just like this. He was so committed to owning the libs (or the 1990s Rush Limbaugh version of it) that he routinely said terrible things about veterans if it helped his far-right cause of the moment.
He benefited from the GI Bill and other veteran's benefits, yet routinely said vets at the VA hospital were leeches stealing his tax dollars. Vets made ill at Bikini Atoll were just whiners, any vet who voted Democratic was a traitorous scumbag who should be executed, etc. He was an awful man. Trumpsters today (and Tea Partiers of a few years ago) remind me of him so much, it's terrifying how many people like him actually exist.
And like a lot of others on this thread, I would bet most of those saying Trump never said such a thing actually agree with the horrible things he said.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||September 4, 2020 11:05 AM|
I mean he said the same thing about McCain and there is a tweet and a video of it. So what are they going to say, that is was doctored?
|by Anonymous||reply 159||September 4, 2020 11:35 AM|
[quote] I mean he said the same thing about McCain and there is a tweet and a video of it. So what are they going to say, that is was doctored?
Some are saying he was too nice in in comments on traitor McCaiin.
And there are White House officials on the record saying the anonymous sources are lying.
And one of the minority stakeholders in The Atlantic is a Democratic donor.
Basically, they are just showing out anything they can and will run with whatever catches on.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||September 4, 2020 11:40 AM|
Yeah but most of Merica will believe it..about 35% will not.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||September 4, 2020 11:42 AM|
[quote] And there are White House officials on the record saying the anonymous sources are lying.
They're probably the same ones who leaked the info!
All of this report is just too convincing. It's just connecting the dots between what we already could see, or adding more dots. It appallingly fills in the background of T-Rump's being totally okay with the Kremlin paying terrorists to kill American servicemen.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||September 4, 2020 12:03 PM|
He really thrives on hate, he's the scum of the earth.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||September 4, 2020 12:16 PM|
What a blessing that we do not have to be confronted with Kellyanne Conway this morning, denying all of the statements in the Atlantic reporting and asking "what about" Nancy's dye job, Hillary's emails and Obama's tan suit.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||September 4, 2020 12:20 PM|
It's only early September and THIS comes out? What even the fuck is being worked on for the "October surprise"? I pray the N-word audio/video tapes are in guarded vaults in multiple locations and ready for dispatch. This slimy motherfucker needs to either die or go down in epic fashion.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||September 4, 2020 12:37 PM|
Rachel Maddow had a woman veteran on her show the other night, talking about Trump's disrespect of the military and veterans. I wasn't sure if she chose a woman to make some kind of point, or she simply couldn't find a single military man to speak badly about Trump in public.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||September 4, 2020 12:51 PM|
Why are people always trying to destroy people who are out doing the work of the Lord, like President Trump and us.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||September 4, 2020 12:55 PM|
He’s a scourge
|by Anonymous||reply 168||September 4, 2020 1:05 PM|
[quote]Trump hates the same people they do: niggers, spics, fags, chinks, gooks and Jews.
Why'd you leave out Muslims who are actually his target and have been from day one while Jews are actually his closest advisers including his own son-in-law and Israel loves Trump?
|by Anonymous||reply 169||September 4, 2020 1:05 PM|
People need to grow some balls and start going on the record. The cloak and dagger routine is getting old. Why are people so afraid to speak out against this guy, like he’s Tony Soprano or something. Why hasn’t John Kelly gone on the record with this stuff? We all know Trump is bad, but his enablers are even worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||September 4, 2020 1:09 PM|
Can you image the republican majority senate standing down and ignoring the Russian's bounty on American troops if Obama was president? We hear cricket s chirping when that topic comes up about Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||September 4, 2020 1:10 PM|
Uh R169 republicans, including trump, don’t like Jews. The “love” Israel because they think it fulfills some nonsense theory about Jesus coming back to earth or some shit. Trump is anti-Semitic. “People in dark shadows” are controlling the protestors? What he wanted to say was JEWS.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||September 4, 2020 1:11 PM|
Because, R170, then the White House sources close to the President wouldn't have the access anymore to give out this information, let alone the ability to rein in his crazier notions!
|by Anonymous||reply 173||September 4, 2020 1:11 PM|
R173, John Kelly and Jim Mattis both resigned over a year and a half ago.
Many other have come and gone during this Administration. Each and every one of them should be publicly telling what they know about Donald Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||September 4, 2020 1:16 PM|
The legacy media continue to destroy their credibility.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||September 4, 2020 1:17 PM|
I don't understand how Twitter works, but the top replies to the Atlantic's tweets about this story are all licking Trump's asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||September 4, 2020 1:20 PM|
R174, I was being sarcastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||September 4, 2020 1:21 PM|
A nation can survive its fools & even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||September 4, 2020 1:25 PM|
R176, I find Twitter sorts the most controversial tweets to the top. They're doing it deliberately, because hate equals engagement.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||September 4, 2020 1:37 PM|
[quote]some nonsense theory about Jesus coming back to earth
Never gonna happen.
[quote]or some shit
Perhaps DL icon Erna can help us with that bit.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||September 4, 2020 1:41 PM|
Quite a speech there, Cicero, especially since you'd been dead since 43 BC.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||September 4, 2020 1:49 PM|
There's always a tweet:
|by Anonymous||reply 182||September 4, 2020 2:29 PM|
He is on the record calling John McCain - who most think was a war hero - a loser. So why the hell wouldn't he be saying that about everyone else that was either captured or killed. Logic is not a standout quality of his deplorable base.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||September 4, 2020 3:08 PM|
R182 no, he definitely did call John McCain a loser (which he was right about.) Nobody is denying that. That isn’t the same as calling all soldiers losers. The media are lying. I swear, the National Enquirer is more trustworthy at this rate.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||September 4, 2020 3:27 PM|
I've seen a few people musing on this idea:
[quote] this really wasn't about the military at all. trump is a cowardly moron who is terrified of his own mortality, so he's built up this myth in his own mind that he will live forever. for this myth to work, people who die must be pathetic losers.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||September 4, 2020 3:31 PM|
[quote] Petty Officer Taylor Morris was presented with a Purple Heart by President Obama. A quadruple amputee wounded in Afghanistan, he is fitted with prosthetics that allow him to walk and a motorized hand. Green Room of the White House, July 26, 2012. Trump hates heroes like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||September 4, 2020 3:35 PM|
Doesn't matter what he says. Cops and military love him, and most of them are right wingers nowadays. They thrive on authoritarianism, so nothing he says or does will change their minds.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||September 4, 2020 3:39 PM|
Can you imagine the outrage if Obama had said something like this? The whole Obama clan would have been lynched in the White House grounds.
And yet entitled white racists will claim there is no such thing as white privilege in America.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||September 4, 2020 3:45 PM|
[quote]no, he definitely did call John McCain a loser (which he was right about.) Nobody is denying that.
Except Trump who specifically said last night he never called McCain a loser (even though it is a record of it, but that has never stopped him denying things before).
|by Anonymous||reply 189||September 4, 2020 3:48 PM|
R184 yeah believe a man who lies with impunity. You are a moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||September 4, 2020 3:48 PM|
I live in Connecticut and when they put this story up on my local news site I read the reactions on Twitter and almost all of them were from Trump supporters who said they didn’t believe the story and that it was fake news. It seems no matter what horrible things this man does the people that follow him don’t believe he can do anything wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||September 4, 2020 3:52 PM|
Lumpy's supporters won't believe it. They need to catch him on a hot mic saying this shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||September 4, 2020 3:55 PM|
Trump supporters are the lowest form of shit on the earth.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||September 4, 2020 3:56 PM|
R193 That is the result of cult of personality politics. In Nazi Germany regardless of what the Germany people heard, read, or saw with their own eyes, they would still support Hitler and either deny all the horrible crimes against humanity, or claim it was for the better good of the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||September 4, 2020 3:59 PM|
NEW: Trump orders the military's legendary independent newspaper Stars and Stripes to shut down
|by Anonymous||reply 195||September 4, 2020 4:03 PM|
Trump says awful things about all kinds of people, so why the outrage over his comments about veterans?
|by Anonymous||reply 196||September 4, 2020 4:05 PM|
[quote] Fact: Deplorables love Trump for one reason and one reason only: Trump hates the same people they do: niggers, spics, fags, chinks, gooks and Jews.
While this is true for most Deps, they seem able to overlook the fact that Trump's beloved daughter and son-in-law are Jewish, as is Mnuchin, many of Trump's best pals and largest donors. Oh, and Barr is a mischling.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||September 4, 2020 4:08 PM|
Jim Beaver; Actor, writer, father, Marine Vietnam vet, liberal, romantic idjit. Author of memoir Life’s That Way:
In Marine Corps boot camp, we were taught a lot of things, most surprisingly a good deal of history. Marine Corps history. The Marines are proud of their history, justifiably, and they drummed it into us. Half a century later, I recall in detail much of what I was taught.
When I pass Basilone Road on the 5 freeway midway between L.A. and San Diego, it's not just a road sign, but a memorial to Medal of Honor and Navy Cross awardee John Basilone, who died on Iwo Jima.
I know where the halls of Montezuma and the shores of Tripoli were and why Marines were there. I know the story of how the Marines got the nickname "Devil Dogs" from the Germans at a place called Belleau Wood in France.
I've been to Belleau Wood, because no self-respecting Marine with the opportunity would pass up the chance to pay tribute to the Marines who fell in one of World War I's most bloody and decisive battles. These men marched across open fields in full view of German machine gunners hidden in the woods. They spent days in hand-to-hand fighting within that tangled forest. The American cemetery there holds 2,289 graves, and one would have to have a heart of granite, or no heart at all, not to be moved in their presence. So I was disturbed at initial (and well-sourced) reports that, on a state visit to the area,
the current occupant of the White House refused to attend a scheduled memorial service at Belleau Wood because he worried that bad weather would muss his hair. Disturbed I was, but not surprised in this era where shocking behavior has become commonplace.
But today, new reports suggest that the current occupant of the White House not only could not bear to get his hair wet, but could not bear to be a respectful, decent human being.
Defense Department officials have confirmed that the man who ostensibly commands all Marines, soldiers, sailors, and air personnel referred to the American cemetery at Belleau Wood as being filled with "suckers" and "losers." I posted yesterday about this man's remarks about prisoners of war being losers and failures. I have not posted anything about his refusal to address confirmed Russian bounties paid for the killing of American troops.
I have not posted anything about his comparing his (presumably successful) avoidance of venereal disease to service in Vietnam. I have not posted anything about his denigration of a soldier's death in the middle east because that soldier happened to be Muslim.
I have not posted about his decision to exclude wounded veterans from military parades. I have not posted about his ongoing efforts to privatize for profit the Veterans Administration. I will not comment on them, but merely list them.
All I can say is that I still hold my oath to defend the Constitution against "all enemies foreign and domestic." There are no "former Marines," no "ex-Marines." I am a Marine. I stand for my comrades, my Corps, my country, and my country's constitution.
I consider the current occupant of the White House a domestic enemy, and I call upon all American veterans of every branch to repudiate him. Death before dishonor. Semper Fidelis.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||September 4, 2020 4:08 PM|
Why is he shutting down a miltary newspaper? Why do the Washington establishment allow a fake billionaire reality show host, to just whatever the fuck he wants? He's not even a real public servant/politican.
Why have they surrendered all power to Trump? Trump is dumb as shit. I don't get it, thus is some insane shit we're witnessing.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||September 4, 2020 4:09 PM|
I've actually met Jim Beaver (briefly). Great guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||September 4, 2020 4:11 PM|
[quote] this really wasn't about the military at all. trump is a cowardly moron who is terrified of his own mortality, so he's built up this myth in his own mind that he will live forever. for this myth to work, people who die must be pathetic losers.
This may get his pyschology right, but it's STILL about the military—his total disrespect for people who put their life on the line to serve the country.
[quote]Cops and military love him
The Military Times poll taken this summer (linked upthread) shows that active service people prefer Biden to Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||September 4, 2020 4:15 PM|
I really don't give a shit that Trump said what he said. A lot of military people are right wing assholes who go on to become asshole police officers and go into Republican politics. So I really don't give a shit, I don't even pretend to care about military people like most people in America do (we know it's true) but I do hope this hurts Trump in the upcoming election.
I really want him to lose the election.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||September 4, 2020 4:16 PM|
R199, who are these "Washington establishment" folks you mention? Please be specific, because that will let us evaluate the power they hold to "allow" the President of the United States to do... well, anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||September 4, 2020 4:16 PM|
R203 When I say Washington establishment, I'm talking about the senators and the powerbrokers in and around DC. I'm talking about the donors who fund the political powers that run the federal government. The people who truly have the power to remove Trump from office. Why don't they check his behavior and his presidency and keep in check for the sake of the country and our standing on the world stage?
I can't wrap my head around why they won't stop his irresponsible behavior, and give him some type of backroom talk about how to conduct himself. He just gets away with everything. If they really wanted to they could absolutely put a stop to this madness, but for whatever reason choose not to so.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||September 4, 2020 4:25 PM|
Anusmouth is shuttering the S&S as punishment to our Armed Forces because they like Joe better than they like him. He's a petty, vindictive, revenge-seeking, small dicked, morbidly obese LOSER.
He can't punish them into loving him. He can't force them OR THEIR FAMILIES OR THEIR FRIENDS to vote for him.
He is chipping away at his own base. With things like this and densely packed, maskless rallys at Latrobe, PA. With the insanity pouring out of the prolapsed asshole looking mouth he has, like diarrhea from dysentery. His Goebbels, Kellyanne, is gone.
Approximately 60 days left. Long enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||September 4, 2020 4:27 PM|
Bottom Line: While hardcore MAGAts will scream "Fake News! Anonymous Sources!"--while continuing to believe that some freak on 8-Chan is validly claiming that Trump was sent by Jesus to save us from Child Eating Clintons--the remaining 70% of the population knows he said it and that he's a scumbag
|by Anonymous||reply 206||September 4, 2020 4:31 PM|
Biden's ad is quite powerful.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||September 4, 2020 4:33 PM|
[quote]I can't wrap my head around why they won't stop his irresponsible behavior....
Because the hard right of the GOP voters loves his provocative behavior and the elected officials will not do anything to anger them. They do not want to be primaried from the Right because those voters will always vote in a bloc and favor the candidate farthest to the right. Rather than fight for principles and accept the challenge of being primaried, they cave. The GOP has mistakenly identified these hard right votes as their base. In fact, they are rot and not a suitable base on which to build anything. That is starting to be clear to some of them.
Their base should be military veterans, law enforcement, soccer moms, small business people, etc. That's where they should build. But they chose to try to build on crazy. And now they are stuck with crazy.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||September 4, 2020 4:34 PM|
R206 is right, but a number of those who know how awful he is don't care, because they see him as a tool to get what they want: high-income tax cuts, right-wing judges, anti-abortion laws, anti-gay laws, or whatever. Just like they didn't see his pussy-grabbing as a threat to themselves, just a distasteful personality flaw. They don't want him in their living room, but they want him in the Executive Branch.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||September 4, 2020 4:36 PM|
You also don't need to be Freud to figure out WHY he thinks it.
Trump's father pulled strings to get him out of Vietnam and likely told him that anyone who did go was a "sucker" or a "loser" who didn't have the pull to avoid serving.
Trump just extended this to anyone who every joined the army.
(He also, as per The Atlantic, was confused as to why we joined WWI on the side of the allies)
|by Anonymous||reply 210||September 4, 2020 4:36 PM|
This is all about Trump and his insecurities. He knows he's not anything special, and he wouldn't have what he does have in life if it wasn't for his father.
Trump is a Bitch and deep down inside he knows it's true. This is about his insecurities and not being able to ever step outside of his over privileged bubble of wealth luxury comfort and convenience, which was given to him by his father. Trump has never accomplished anything on his own and he knows he's a loser. Just like the large majority of people in his administration.
Not of them got to where they are on personal merit. It was all trust funds and family money. None of these people are respectable people, not one.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||September 4, 2020 4:38 PM|
That last thing, R210, might have come through Trump's father from *his* father, the Bavarian draft-dodger Frederick Trump, who died of Spanish flu a few months before the armistice, when Fred Trump was 12. He probably spent the whole previous year sputtering over the family dinner table about how Wilson should have allied with the Kaiser.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||September 4, 2020 4:40 PM|
Whatever minuscule momentum Trump got coming out of his convention is now gone after this story came out. This one is going to stick.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||September 4, 2020 4:40 PM|
[quote] they see him as a tool to get what they want: high-income tax cuts, right-wing judges, anti-abortion laws, anti-gay laws, or whatever. Just like they didn't see his pussy-grabbing as a threat to themselves, just a distasteful personality flaw.
That would make them hard-core MAGAts, friend. Part of that 30%-35% who will vote for Trump no matter what.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||September 4, 2020 4:41 PM|
I'm intuitively agreeing, R213, but why will this stick when so much hasn't made a difference, including stories of this very kind (e.g. his tweets about John McCain, his refusal to criticize Putin's bounties on US troops, etc.)? Has there been some tipping point? Is it because he's already running behind and a "loser" narrative is building around him?
|by Anonymous||reply 215||September 4, 2020 4:42 PM|
They say that people start paying attention to the election come Labor Day, and this is the BIG story going into the Labor Day weekend.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||September 4, 2020 4:44 PM|
I'm making a distinction, R214, from the hard-core MAGATs who positively delight in his obnoxiousness and flouting of moral and legal standards. There's another 10-15% who agree he's a rotten person but one who gets them their policies.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||September 4, 2020 4:44 PM|
I guess R217. Point being they still don't add up to more than 35%
So 20% hard-core and 15% Christians
|by Anonymous||reply 218||September 4, 2020 4:46 PM|
He a useful idiot. Has been his whole life. He is useful to Putin/Russia, he is useful to greedy fucks who don't give a damn about anything but their wallets. He is indeed an idiot but a useful one.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||September 4, 2020 4:47 PM|
Because DL Fave Hillary Clinton can't keep her fucking mouth shut and does not understand how toxic she is and how easily she riles up Trump's base and beyond, Charlie Kirk and Friends have "Benghazi" trending as a response to Trump's comments.
Never mind that you can't compare 4 deaths to hundreds of thousands or that multiple investigations turned up nothing.
Hillary:MAGAts = Jews:Nazis
|by Anonymous||reply 220||September 4, 2020 4:47 PM|
Did Joe and Mika talk about this on their show this morning?
|by Anonymous||reply 221||September 4, 2020 4:50 PM|
What has surprised me in the Trump administration is how many generals are spineless cowards who see this man openly attacking democracy and committing treason right in front of their eyes and they refuse to defend the country and tell the truth.
Before Trump, I always thought generals were very patriotic and put the country above all. Now I see they care nothing about the country and are happy to see it destroyed as long as they can keep their money and make more over democracy’s corpse.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||September 4, 2020 4:53 PM|
[quote] So 20% hard-core and 15% Christians
Some are in neither category!
|by Anonymous||reply 223||September 4, 2020 4:53 PM|
For our Flyoverstani Friends who may need to take this up with family members and co-workers
|by Anonymous||reply 224||September 4, 2020 4:56 PM|
All the Democrats must hammer away at Trump’s disdain for the military. Don’t let up!
|by Anonymous||reply 225||September 4, 2020 5:05 PM|
Biden just went after him saying it is disgusting if true, and then repeated what he did say about McCain, implying he thinks it is true.
- and now is blasting him for COVID - more cops have died from COVID than on patrol this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||September 4, 2020 5:10 PM|
Yessss, Joe! Drag his fat, orange ass!
|by Anonymous||reply 227||September 4, 2020 5:13 PM|
R184, Trump literally just lied and said he never called McCain a loser. It's in the tweet thread at R182. So he is literally denying that. You need a new talking point, Boris.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||September 4, 2020 5:21 PM|
Trump has the personality of a serial killer. No remorse after being caught.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||September 4, 2020 5:41 PM|
Shows what a solipsist he is that he would speak such thoughts to “his generals.”
|by Anonymous||reply 230||September 4, 2020 5:45 PM|
Why do the right-wingers attack this reporter after he has followed every journalism protocol in seeking multiple sources? I believe the Orangeman made these disgusting comments. He is unAmerican. Why would anyone in the military support this narcissist leader?
|by Anonymous||reply 231||September 4, 2020 5:48 PM|
Of course the story is true.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||September 4, 2020 5:51 PM|
You can't say "nobody is denying that," R184, when Trump himself *is* denying it. Just another lie on top of the thousands of others...
|by Anonymous||reply 233||September 4, 2020 5:59 PM|
I'm seeing stories on Twitter about active members and veterans taking down their Trump signs. You know what? Fuck off. They stood by him while he mocked and caused serious harm to others. They can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. Good that they're not voting for him, but they're still assholes nonetheless. No sympathy for them whatsoever especially since a great many of the Trump supporting nutcases that join the military are indeed losers.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||September 4, 2020 5:59 PM|
R231, they're just making their way through the stages of deplorable grief:
1. He didn't say it. Everyone else is lying.
2. [After indisputable evidence he did in fact say it:] He was only joking, You're so stupid for not realizing that.
3. [After Trump says he was totally serious:] Obama said it first. You didn't care when Obama said it.
4. [After indisputable evidence Obama didn't say it:] What Trump said was totally correct. He tells it like it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||September 4, 2020 6:04 PM|
How is anyone just realizing this now, after the Atlantic article? We've been hearing these stories for years. I guess it's just a critical mass of deplorability coming out at once, plus the fact that it's an election year and Trump's opponent is beating him in the polls. Abandon ship!
|by Anonymous||reply 236||September 4, 2020 6:07 PM|
Trump's deplorable Facebook page is awfully quiet about Trump's disdain for the military. I've been hammering away at them about what Trump said and not one of those vile idiots has disputed my posts.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||September 4, 2020 6:10 PM|
R234 That's exactly why most Americans pretend to care about military people. But the real truth is that most people really don't give a shit about service people. Most people know that elwhen they're overseas, they do a lot of immoral inhumane shit to civilians in other war torn countries.
A lot if military people are not respectable individuals in the least bit. It's just socially responsible and politically correct to act as though you care, because no one wants to deal with the fall out of not "supporting our troops." I know it sounds bad, but it's the truth. Especially with right wing assholes. They definitely don't care about them, they just use them as political pawns to help themselves politically.
The very fact that some of them still support Trump, a rich kid who disrespected John McCain, one of their own. And still stuck by him supported him and voted for Trump, is good enough reason to not care about them anyway. If they don't care, why should the rest of us care?
|by Anonymous||reply 238||September 4, 2020 6:10 PM|
Two senior Administration officials, one in the Defense Department, have confirmed that, yes, Trump made these remarks.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||September 4, 2020 6:11 PM|
R236, I think part of it is the frustration that the press has done such a poor job of covering Trump and his corruption, unfitness, and horrid behavior. They couch so much coverage in both-siderism, strategic pandering to the base, and concern trolling that when a straightforward "this is what he is/does" piece like this comes along, we just jump all over it for faint resemblance of real journalism.
Ironically, Jeff Goldberg is an absolute tool and usually an example of the worst kind of political journalism. He's getting all this attention now for doing the barest minimum of his job.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||September 4, 2020 6:15 PM|
By contrast, look at what the access fraud journalists at the NYTimes are doing to spin Trump's response:
|by Anonymous||reply 241||September 4, 2020 6:19 PM|
John McCain's mother is still alive at 100+. This must be reopening old wound for her. I hope she snaps and pulls a Czolgosz on Trump in a receiving line someday soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||September 4, 2020 6:19 PM|
Jonathan Alter: “ Why is Trump's military "suckers" and "losers" line taking root? Because it's planted in fertile soil. He has said this kind of thing so often in the past that his denials aren't landing--and no matter how vehement, they never will.”
|by Anonymous||reply 243||September 4, 2020 6:29 PM|
The emperor has no clothes!
|by Anonymous||reply 244||September 4, 2020 6:30 PM|
R12, That is indeed what they are inundating Twitter with.
The anonymous sources need to put their patriotism where their words are, be Nathan Hales, and come forth!
We cannot survive more cowardly Muellers, afraid to reveal the truth!
|by Anonymous||reply 245||September 4, 2020 6:36 PM|
Damn, somehow this seems worse than his usual shittiness. I know he's paid no real price for four years, but somehow this seems worse. Been wrong before, of course, like so many, but I do think he might actually pay a price for going after the military like this, in such a foul and disgusting way. Even Joe McCarthy began to finally pay a price when he decided to bring his shitshow to the US Military.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||September 4, 2020 6:43 PM|
R246 Well let's hope so. Team Trump has gotten away with everything so far, without suffering any consequences for his ill behavior.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||September 4, 2020 6:50 PM|
Let's see what the polls look like next week.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||September 4, 2020 6:58 PM|
I thought Republicans loved the military and soldiers/veterans. They're always talking about how they're superheroes and always insist on everyone respecting and saluting the troops. So how are they still supporting someone who talks about them that way?
|by Anonymous||reply 249||September 4, 2020 7:22 PM|
Mary Trump weighs in.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||September 4, 2020 7:25 PM|
R249, the Republicans have betrayed everything they ever stood for, except tax breaks for the very wealthy.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||September 4, 2020 7:26 PM|
He denies saying it and we all know that Trump never lies.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||September 4, 2020 7:30 PM|
My worry is Trump is now scrambling on COVID, etc. to make some big announcements. The vaccine is especially worrisome because of the danger it might entail.
Shutting down the military newspaper a day after this broke was such a fucking unforced error..and a horrible look.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||September 4, 2020 7:32 PM|
Well, r247, this seems to shed a brighter light on the extent of his sociopathy. Zero Conscience, zero empathy. I guess we'll see. I can't imagine how those in the military can spin this in his favor outside of "fake news".
|by Anonymous||reply 254||September 4, 2020 7:34 PM|
I don't think as many vets as you think care that Dump dissed McCain. I work for a program that supports the Navy and some of the vets working on that program hated McCain because he was a RINO (Republican in Name Only). These people were AVID Fox News watchers, so it will be interesting to see how Fox spins this latest revelation. I think that will steer their opinion more than anything
|by Anonymous||reply 255||September 4, 2020 7:34 PM|
Howard Dean says "Fuck you" to Trump
|by Anonymous||reply 256||September 4, 2020 7:38 PM|
Ha ha I love it.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||September 4, 2020 7:45 PM|
Rump is unhinged.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||September 4, 2020 7:46 PM|
God, I love Howard Dean!
|by Anonymous||reply 259||September 4, 2020 7:49 PM|
How much politics has changed in the last decade and half. In 2004 when Howard Dean gave a hoarse Yeah! holler to his rally audience it was portrayed by the media to be unpresidential and unacceptable behavior by a candidate. But Trump has eviscerated any resemblance of norms of how a president would act or speak.
I agree with Howard Dean, fuck you Donald Trump, and all your whole facking family too.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||September 4, 2020 7:50 PM|
But his spokeswhores say he lurves the military almost as much as he loves ... umm ... who's that loser in the Bible, oh yeah, Jesus.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||September 4, 2020 8:02 PM|
[quote]the Republicans have betrayed everything they ever stood for, except tax breaks for the very wealthy.
And white supremacy.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||September 4, 2020 8:04 PM|
I like Howard Dean, but with all due respect, mentioning his brother being killed in Laos and giving the impression he was in the military is like that ep. of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" when someone mentioned their brother died on 9/11...only it was in LA.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||September 4, 2020 8:05 PM|
As R1 wrote, nothing is surprising about this racist, sexist, irresponsible imbecile anymore.
Still, how can any one person be so self-absorbed and completing lacking in generosity?
|by Anonymous||reply 264||September 4, 2020 8:09 PM|
Sorry, R263, although he was a civilian at the time of his capture, the US Government classified Charlie Dean as a Prison of War.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||September 4, 2020 8:10 PM|
Don't forget to vote in our poll for the proper terminology for a treasonous President.
Every vote matters!
|by Anonymous||reply 266||September 4, 2020 8:12 PM|
Because this is Datalounge, Home of the Gullible™ I feel the need to point out that the Babylon Bee, linked to at R258, is a satirical publication in the spirit of the Onion.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||September 4, 2020 8:13 PM|
I believe this story 100%
I also believe he has raped women and underaged girls.
If he wins a second term, it will be due to Putin + Republicans stealing it straight it.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||September 4, 2020 8:18 PM|
Atlantic story confirmed again—this time by FOX NEWS.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||September 4, 2020 8:32 PM|
I just love her name is Heinrich and she works for FOX....
|by Anonymous||reply 270||September 4, 2020 8:37 PM|
Now it totally makes sense why Trump didn’t care that Putin was paying for the Taliban to kill American soldiers
|by Anonymous||reply 271||September 4, 2020 8:37 PM|
Fox News confirms the story via their National Security Correspondent.
Read full tweet thread
|by Anonymous||reply 272||September 4, 2020 8:38 PM|
Is this the October Surprise in September?
|by Anonymous||reply 273||September 4, 2020 8:38 PM|
R271, you mean it didn't make sense before now considering that he couldn't give a shit about ANYONE but himself? EVERYONE is expendable to him - family included.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||September 4, 2020 8:44 PM|
that's really interesting r272. Is Fox News finally splitting? Are they sensing this is real blood in the water? Has everyone started heading for the lifeboats, cause there ain't room for everyone and there are going to be some real knife fights then.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||September 4, 2020 8:54 PM|
Attention Datalounge, your boyfriend has something to say:
[quote] Now I get why @realDonaldTrump won’t stand up to Putin for bounties on our troops. Does Trump act as a Russia agent? Yes. But, Trump also thinks any US troops killed by Russia bounties are “suckers” or “losers.” He hasn’t defended them. He never will.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||September 4, 2020 8:57 PM|
Trumptards losing it on FB trying to defend Trump...
[quote]Kelly Hutchins Glidewell - Right and he also had several mini strokes and a heart attack! That didn’t work so now let’s say he was bad mouthing the military and the democrats fall for it every time!
[quote]Robert Glenn - Remember when john Kerry said marines were terrorist? Pepperidge farms remembers. Only the Democrats hate the military and there is plenty of proof.
[quote]Patty Cave Hughes - A made up rumor and you all are running with it. I know that the man has the upmost respect for our military and would have never said this. Shame on you all
[quote]Paul Sandy - People who were there said this wasn’t true, even Bolten. You continue to try and stir up hatred for our President. It’s really sad!
[quote]Donna Sauls - Media is disappointing no one backs the military like he does Try reporting the truth it would be good for your souls
[quote]Anastasia L Leidy - Any of you who think that the president said something like this about our military needs to have their head examined
[quote]Janice Rowe - That is Bull s—- He has always respected the military. He has paid a lot of military funerals
[quote]Louise Cooper Lee - He's always been a friend and advocate for our military
[quote]Kevin Rockwell - Yea. I don't think it Trump that said it , but he pointed out what was already reported by other POW's who were with McCain that he was in fact a cheese eating snitch who used his rich white privilege to carry favor with his captors. Word is he got a couple of them killed.
[quote]Malcolm Xavier - Trump is right!! They are SUCKERS fighting for government interest!!! What has the deaths of service members in Afghanistan, Iraq, Gulf War, Vietnam mattered in the grand scheme of things? Trump calling it as he sees!!
[quote]Penny Fulton - This story is a lie to cover up Pelosi new hair doo. I call bs on this story
[quote]Jenny-Lynn Maddox - Lord everyone knows trump has always and I mean ALWAYS. Supported our vet's and army.
[quote]Beth Kenny - John McCain.... SONGBIRD...was a traitor! I don't really care where the flags were flying.
[quote]Mary Guarino Crouch - Any one that believes this Must be a supporter of, Nancy Pisslosi and All of her most Gracious gang!
[quote]Tammy Shows - Our president is 100% pro America!!! He helps the people and that drives the left crazy, because they want to have total control over our whole country, and they can't. ❤❤🇺🇸Trump 2020🇺🇸❤❤
[quote]David Harper - This is a BS. Everyone knows Trump polls far better with military and veterans than Biden. Media just trying to erode that standing.
[quote]Ed Boehm - What a bs story. It came from the atlantic. Realize the source for god sake.
[quote]Mary Alsup - More fake news... I don’t know why such a great President has to waste valuable time answering these liars stupid accusations...
[quote]Brian Jones - Dems losing in the polls. Hey, let's put out a lie to take the heat off Pelosi and Biden.
[quote]Todd Bishop - Im sorry, but if you believe this bulls**t then you're just a f***ing moron....
[quote]MJ Matthews - "numerous sources"...JUST STOP!! He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans. He issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life. He also signed the VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care. He supports our troops, past and present! #Trump2020 #VoteRed
|by Anonymous||reply 277||September 4, 2020 9:14 PM|
Well if you can't believe a bunch of whores, grifters, and Cult members ...
|by Anonymous||reply 278||September 4, 2020 9:15 PM|
There is no help for any of those people R277.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||September 4, 2020 9:16 PM|
R279 Perhaps prune juice?
|by Anonymous||reply 280||September 4, 2020 9:30 PM|
Wow this story is exploding and has gained much traction. How is he going to work this in the end of the month debate. Trump is getting flayed alive. And it couldn't happen to a nicer person.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||September 4, 2020 9:30 PM|
Fox fucking News. Fox fucking News. People everywhere are getting sick to death of his shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||September 4, 2020 9:36 PM|
We’ll see if this actually sticks, but I seriously doubt it. His administration is currently overseeing the deaths of literally hundreds of thousands and no one really seems to give a fuck, so... yeah, I don’t think this story is going to be the thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||September 4, 2020 9:37 PM|
Cult of personality overrules all for his base. It won't matter for them even if it is true, and even if they have a killed or wounded military family member. Only for those small number of Trump supporters who may have been on the fence already may abandon him.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||September 4, 2020 9:42 PM|
When Michael Cohen was testifying, didn't he say that Trump bragged about lying to get out of the Vietnam draft?
|by Anonymous||reply 285||September 4, 2020 9:43 PM|
It is galvanizing his opposition causing a lot of negative press for him and seriously impacting undecided and independents. It is bad, bad, bad for Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||September 4, 2020 9:50 PM|
Uh, let's get back to the most important disrespect of the US:
President Donald Trump has repeatedly called on the NFL to punish players who kneel on the field in protest of racial inequality and police violence.
Now, in the wake of the NFL’s new policy that all players must “stand and show respect” during the national anthem, Trump has suggested that players who kneel don’t belong in the US.
“You have to stand proudly for the national anthem or you shouldn’t be playing, you shouldn’t be there. Maybe you shouldn’t be in the country,” Trump said in an interview with Fox & Friends that aired on Thursday.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||September 4, 2020 9:53 PM|
r285 Think Cohen referenced this in tweet today
|by Anonymous||reply 288||September 4, 2020 9:55 PM|
Will Mattis and Kelly remain pussy ass bitch cowards and cover for Trump?
|by Anonymous||reply 289||September 4, 2020 9:57 PM|
Fox News reporters is one thing. If the prime time commentators turn on him, it would be big. Still, it will be harder for them to simply dismiss the story as fake news, not that it’s out of the question. They will probably try to ignore it.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||September 4, 2020 10:58 PM|
Mattis and Kelly are likely among the sources. They are not covering for Trump. Their public silence is confirmation.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||September 4, 2020 11:00 PM|
NY Times finally has this as top headline.
Biden calls remarks disgusting
Trump forced to reverse his decision to close down Stars and Stripes newspaper (duh!)
Shit is hitting hard and fast.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||September 4, 2020 11:01 PM|
Kelly's not a source; the article said he wouldn't speak to them. I forget if it said that about Mattis.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||September 4, 2020 11:06 PM|
[quote]Still, how can any one person be so self-absorbed and completing lacking in generosity?
R264, It seems to me that this type of person displays nearly all the markers of a psychopath. Because so many of us receive what little information we get regarding psychopaths and sociopaths from television and movies, we tend to think that all psychopaths are killers and torturers of innocent victims, devoid of empathy or even the slightest degree of compassion for others. This is true of many, but not all. Trump has demonstrated, at least to me, that like all psychopaths, he has no conscience at all. Sociopaths, on the other hand, generally have, however meager, some semblance of a conscience, though it often goes unheeded. There are many other features Trump has displayed which, to me, leave little doubt that he has more in common with psychopaths than sociopaths. I know that you are fully aware of the enormities of his diseased mind and the existential mayhem he is capable of inflicting on mankind.
My hope is that those who see only this ridiculous buffoon, with his laughable mangling of the English language, his astonishing level of stupidity in so many areas, and his general "can this clown be real?" demeanor will realize that this is all as nothing compared to the festering evil that [bold]IS[/bold]Donald Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||September 4, 2020 11:07 PM|
I wonder if Pence is behind the leak and he is hoping to get Trump to resign so he can President for just a few months.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||September 4, 2020 11:25 PM|
Trump and NY Times don’t agree with you, R293:
President Trump lashed out on Friday at the former White House chief of staff, John F. Kelly, at a briefing with reporters, disparaging him as “unable to function” in the final months on the job after a blistering report by The Atlantic detailed Mr. Trump’s disregard for military service.
“I know John Kelly, he was with me, didn’t do a good job, had no temperament,” Mr. Trump said, calling him “exhausted and beaten up in this world.”
“Now he goes out and bad-mouths” the president, Mr. Trump said.
Mr. Kelly, a decorated veteran who lost his son, Robert, in combat, has not, in fact, bad-mouthed Mr. Trump publicly.
The Atlantic piece, which cited four unidentified sources, focused on statements by Mr. Trump that Mr. Kelly was privy to. According to the story, Mr. Trump had said he did not want to attend a memorial at a U.S. military cemetery in France because it was filled with “losers” and “suckers.”
|by Anonymous||reply 296||September 4, 2020 11:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 297||September 4, 2020 11:43 PM|
I'm still stunned. Didn't think I could be, but I'm still stunned by this whole thing. And yes, everyone knows he said exactly what he is quoted as saying. Skip it, spokeswhores, nobody believes you when you pretend Trump wouldn't say anything like this. of course he would, and of course he did.
Aside from how disgusting it is, politically it's just so crazy. It just is one of those things I'm sure no campaign manager thinks they'd ever have to explain to a candidate: by the way, don't be a huge fucking asshole about service members, okay? But of course anything remotely human has to be carefully explained to this jackass.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||September 5, 2020 12:09 AM|
The Hardcore Trumpists are like the hardcore Nazis.
Even as the Russians were at the outskirts of Berlin, a sizable percentage of the German people fervently believed that Hitler would turn things around.
They are hopeless.
They are also maybe 30% of the population.
If this shifts independents to Biden, gets Democrats who never bother to vote to actually show up, and peels away even 1% or 2% of "leaning Trump" voters, it is a huge win.
Plus, rather than actually talk about Biden or his plans, Trump is going to have to spend the next week defending this.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||September 5, 2020 12:11 AM|
Was talking to a friend who works for a member of Congress (D) and she was saying that (a) no one actually doubts he said this, it's in line with everything he's said about the military thus gar and (b) at this point even the Republicans (nutjobs like Nestor's Dad and Gym excepted) are hoping he loses. I'll quote her "Even McConnell and Cruz have got to be sick of waking up every morning wondering what new insanity they are going to have to explain away or defend and going to sleep at night contemplating how much of their soul they sold to remain in power."
|by Anonymous||reply 300||September 5, 2020 12:15 AM|
Republicans like war because it's profitable. They don't like the military.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||September 5, 2020 12:15 AM|
But our TROOPS!!! AND FLAG PINS!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 302||September 5, 2020 12:24 AM|
These anonymous sources are COWARDS who should come out and say on the record what they know.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||September 5, 2020 12:30 AM|
Trump commented today "It's a hoax." Of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||September 5, 2020 12:34 AM|
With less than 2 months to go until the election this shit bag will have all sorts of gaffes to help bury himself. Go on Donnie, keep talking, the country is on to you.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||September 5, 2020 12:38 AM|
YOU CAN NEVER TRUST ANONYMOUS SOURCES!!111!!
scream millions of Republicans who believe in QAnon.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||September 5, 2020 12:38 AM|
R306, not to mention those "people" Trump always says are "saying."
We've never actually seen any of those "people" saying anything that Trump says they're saying.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||September 5, 2020 12:44 AM|
Veterans are dragging Trump up one side of the internet and down the other.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||September 5, 2020 12:50 AM|
Or his "Sir" stories, where he always says someone came up to him with tears in their eyes and said "Sir, why are you so amazing?" (or similar)
Always: tears in their eyes coupled with "Sir"
|by Anonymous||reply 309||September 5, 2020 12:50 AM|
Yes, it's all tears in the eyes and "sir" now. After Jan 20th it'll be all spit in his face and "Die you fat treasonous whore" everywhere he goes.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||September 5, 2020 12:57 AM|
If any military person supports him, then they are in fact suckers and losers.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||September 5, 2020 12:59 AM|
I'm trying to think if there is anyone that I could stan for as much as the Trumpsters stan for Trump. And I can't think of anyone. At some point you would think they would ask themselves how is it possible that everyone is lying. How all news is fake. How all republicans against Trump are RINOs. And how the "libs" are controlling everything to bring down Trump. At some point you would think they would have connected the dots. Oh well.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||September 5, 2020 1:14 AM|
Any support from the military that he had, he just lost most of it.
This drew blood, well done Atlantic Monthly.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||September 5, 2020 1:17 AM|
Plus the support from the families of the vets he insulted.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||September 5, 2020 1:19 AM|
Oh, look, Vairst Letty is calling this a lie!
(As a birther, she'd know a thing or two about fake stories)
|by Anonymous||reply 315||September 5, 2020 1:20 AM|
He's the loser!!! Fuck trump!!
|by Anonymous||reply 316||September 5, 2020 1:20 AM|
Mayor Pete is on Fox News hammering Trump
|by Anonymous||reply 317||September 5, 2020 1:22 AM|
Vairst Leddeez can't help him, he has seriously FUCKED UP.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||September 5, 2020 1:24 AM|
Rachel is absolutely skewering this miserable crook tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||September 5, 2020 1:25 AM|
Guess we now know the specific personality defect of this broken fucking toy that explains why he doesn’t give a shit about the Russian bounties on American soldiers.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||September 5, 2020 1:26 AM|
You know they waved her marriage contract in front of Melania's face and demanded she -- as the supposed face of empathy for the campaign -- write that tweet.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||September 5, 2020 1:26 AM|
they never learned the most basic lesson: once people think you are a liar, nobody will believe what you say. Nobody will believe anyone in this administration, including vairst lady, about anything. the reputation is baked in. sorry whores and grifters, it's just how it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||September 5, 2020 1:27 AM|
People just need to reply to her tweets with her porn photos.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||September 5, 2020 1:28 AM|
I hope the Republicans didn't plant some fake sources for the story. It will backfire on the Democrats bigly.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||September 5, 2020 1:28 AM|
Deplorables will throw out their football memorabilia, Goodyear tires, etc at an instant, but won’t ever abandon this fool no matter how much evidence there is of his disdain for most Americans.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||September 5, 2020 1:29 AM|
everyone knows he said what he said r324. It's who he is, always has been, always will be. It's too late, nobody believes Trump would never say anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||September 5, 2020 1:29 AM|
He is The Boy Who Cried Wolf
I mean that story earlier this week about how there was a planeload of "thugs" heading to Kenosha...
|by Anonymous||reply 327||September 5, 2020 1:30 AM|
[quote]This drew blood, well done Atlantic Monthly.
I'm glad they've confirmed exactly what people like me have said for years. This man who is worshiped by people who hate Hollywood elitists, will never accept that he'd prefer the company of those Hollywood elitists over any military vet, any farmer, any steel worker, any police officer.
The fact that they think Biden or Obama are "elitists," but Trump is not, shows how deranged and in denial his supporters truly are.
I'd also like to give an example of how stupid military people are when they vote Republican: Years back during Obama, the Dems put forth a vet jobs bill which passed the HoR. It failed in the Senate under McConnell. Know why? They wanted to add bellicose language against Iran. A fucking jobs bill for Vets being used to push ANOTHER Neocon war and when Dems refused, Reps voted against it.
So when you military people stupidly vote for the GOP, remember who is actually looking out for you where it counts and you ignore it to vote for whatever bullshit you tell yourself when you vote GOP.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||September 5, 2020 1:30 AM|
Hey, we resent that comparison R320.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||September 5, 2020 1:31 AM|
Again R325, the Germans believed in Hitler until he shot himself and the Russians entered Berlin and raped all their wives and daughters. Multiple times a day for months.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||September 5, 2020 1:31 AM|
It is clearly true. Trump like many rich bastards has no respect for anyone who isn’t rich.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||September 5, 2020 1:31 AM|
Multiple news outlets have confirmed the meat of this story by the writing of this post.
It is true.
And it has teeth and lasting damage.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||September 5, 2020 1:31 AM|
Even Fox fucking Noise is confirming that he said it.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||September 5, 2020 1:33 AM|
But R331 and R328 -- to his supporters, Trump does not judge them for not having gone to college, He doesn't use words they don't understand.
He is Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack and he's conned them into thinking he's one of them.
Sort of like Ivy League Bush The Younger saying "noo-cue-ler" and somehow they believed he was a Texas good old boy X 1000000000000000000
|by Anonymous||reply 334||September 5, 2020 1:34 AM|
also too, shut the fuck up First Whore, nobody cares. Take the money and run bitch, save what you can, this ship is going down fast.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||September 5, 2020 1:35 AM|
Hahahahahaha, they put the First Whore out there denying it on Twitter while Fux Noise confirms he said it.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||September 5, 2020 1:37 AM|
[quote]You know they waved her marriage contract in front of Melania's face and demanded she -- as the supposed face of empathy for the campaign -- write that tweet.
Nah, Melania didn't write that tweet. Whoever's in charge of her official twitter wrote it under orders from the campaign / WH comms office.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||September 5, 2020 1:47 AM|
R324, you scared? Shit. I didn’t even think this story would amount to much as we all know Trump is a grade a shitstain, but seems like this has him rattled but good.
And I’m ignoring this poster. Time to take out the trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||September 5, 2020 1:49 AM|
[quote]I hope the Republicans didn't plant some fake sources for the story. It will backfire on the Democrats bigly.
Have you paid attention at all to his PUBLIC behavior which mirrors this?
|by Anonymous||reply 339||September 5, 2020 1:51 AM|
Virtually every American has either served, is serving or has a family member, friend, co-worker, neighbor in the military, making this a direct insult from the individual who swore a sacred oath as Commander in Chief.
After four+ years of non-stop insanity, could this finally be Trump's 'bridge too far?' His personal 'Waterloo,' (pun intended.)
|by Anonymous||reply 340||September 5, 2020 2:22 AM|
maybe r340. I admit a lot of us feel completely disconnected from the military in our personal lives, but there is still something so ugly about denigrating men and women who actually do serve that just makes all of us cringe. it may be a throwback to a previous era, but it's still there. Even if you hate our wars, even if you don't like what we do around the world, attacking the men and women sent to actually carry out our nation's orders, yeah, that is just too damn ugly for most Americans.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||September 5, 2020 2:25 AM|
What does Lindsay Graham day about this?
Or any other elected Republican for that matter.
|by Anonymous||reply 342||September 5, 2020 2:27 AM|
Yeah, our Miss Lindz is an actual veteran. So, loser? Does she accept that?
|by Anonymous||reply 343||September 5, 2020 2:28 AM|
Another shoe drops:
Trump believes troops who go missing in action are not worth finding: Former administration official
|by Anonymous||reply 344||September 5, 2020 2:29 AM|
Another shoe drops:
Trump believes troops who go missing in action are not worth finding: Former administration official
|by Anonymous||reply 345||September 5, 2020 2:29 AM|
Trump believes troops who go missing in action are not worth finding: Former administration official
|by Anonymous||reply 346||September 5, 2020 2:30 AM|
Exactly, R341. When people do this, they (usually) get their asses beat and are (rightly) reviled by all who hear them say it.
And the more he tries to talk himself out of it, the worse he'll make it.
The press aren't going to let this one go. Joe is going to hammer him into paste during the debates on this. Kamala will bring it up during her speeches and debate with fuckwad Pence.
This gift and he's still done JACK SHIT about COVID.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||September 5, 2020 2:31 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 348||September 5, 2020 2:31 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 349||September 5, 2020 2:32 AM|
A significant portion of the military will remain Trumpsters no matter what.
|by Anonymous||reply 350||September 5, 2020 2:34 AM|
He might just lose Texas over this.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||September 5, 2020 2:36 AM|
You know who comes to mind with all of this?
Pastor Martin Niemöller
Many people ignored all of the other people Trump came for....
|by Anonymous||reply 352||September 5, 2020 2:46 AM|
The election is two months away. Don't put too much stock in this finally being the thing that is a bridge too far for enough people to matter. He is not the only person that believes this. Except for the old military families, many look at military service as either being 1) a step for future political office (and this is rare) or 2) for people who have nowhere else to be in society so they join the military to provide direction in their lives.
Look at the comments section of any deplorable website and you will find a lot of people agreeing with Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||September 5, 2020 3:00 AM|
Love Betty Bowers
|by Anonymous||reply 354||September 5, 2020 3:03 AM|
You ever think you'd ever see someone who looks and sounds like this talking shit about Trump?:
|by Anonymous||reply 355||September 5, 2020 3:06 AM|
Why does he like to embarrass and belittle the military? Is he trying to weaken it?
|by Anonymous||reply 356||September 5, 2020 3:06 AM|
Jesus fucking Christ, he lies more than he breathes:
Now Trump is saying he even phoned Melania back in Washington to say how disappointed he was that he couldn’t go to the military cemetery outside of Paris. In fact, Melania was with him in Paris. He just made up his alibi.
|by Anonymous||reply 357||September 5, 2020 3:07 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 358||September 5, 2020 3:09 AM|
John Bolton was there and says it’s bullshit or he would have devoted an entire chapter in his book.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||September 5, 2020 3:10 AM|
r359, he says he didn't hear Trump say it, but acknowledges that Trump could have said it when he wasn't around. Not exactly a ringing endorsement
|by Anonymous||reply 360||September 5, 2020 3:12 AM|
His alibi is the lady under contract to him? Heh heh heh.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||September 5, 2020 3:21 AM|
R359, you're too stupid to even comprehend what he even said. What you just said is NOT what he actually said.
And how fucking dumb are you that you think there isn't ample evidence of this being precisely who he is? We already fucking heard out loud how he feels about vets. BTW, he was attacking McCain's service as far back as 2000. He doesn't care about Russian bounties and it was confirmed he didn't see the point in looking for "losers" who were MIA. He shit on Gold Star families, he couldn't even retain th name of fallen soldier who died in Niger when he was speaking to his widow and even his comments to her were fucking gross. FUCK. YOU. We all know who he is, shit-for-brains.
Funny how SUDDENLY, Bolton is believable to right-wing morons. I didn't even give a shit about his book. Anyone with basic human decency knows what Trump has always been. We don't need an asshole like Bolton saying anything one way or the other.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||September 5, 2020 3:22 AM|
Now he's done it. he don' lost Sully (who is a Republican):
|by Anonymous||reply 363||September 5, 2020 3:28 AM|
Man, I thought "I like people who weren't captured" was just a joke at McCain's expense. I even thought it was kind of funny in an irreverent way. But now I realize he doesn't have a sense of humor and and sincerely doesn't respect the military or their sacrifices. Deplorables are suckers and losers if they think he believes in anything but himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||September 5, 2020 3:29 AM|
To the morons saying Trump has "witnesses" who say it isn't true. Guess who one of the "witnesses" is? Stephen Miller
|by Anonymous||reply 365||September 5, 2020 3:32 AM|
Of course he said it. There is no question about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||September 5, 2020 3:37 AM|
Where are all the other republicans in this?
They are not as invincible?
What about Susan Collins?
|by Anonymous||reply 367||September 5, 2020 3:38 AM|
How could anyone hear a denial coming from the WH or a former WH official and say, “well, that settles it, Trump never said it.” The sheer fucking stupidity of Trump die-hards is the most irritating and confounding thing I’ve ever witnessed in this country.
As others have said, he’s made plenty of similar comments on the record, and there have been reports all along of him saying similar things privately, that NOTHING in The Atlantic article should be difficult for people to believe. How do these idiots not see the pattern? I want to grab them by their fucking empty heads and slam them against the wall.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||September 5, 2020 3:39 AM|
[quote]What about Susan Collins?
Oh, you know she's con....
|by Anonymous||reply 369||September 5, 2020 3:39 AM|
Who cares about Susan Collins? She’s on her way out, she’s gonna lose re-election like she deserves. In the meantime, the “concerned” jokes are seriously played out.
|by Anonymous||reply 370||September 5, 2020 3:41 AM|
What about these people?
|by Anonymous||reply 371||September 5, 2020 3:44 AM|
No comment from those people?
Some of them are military friendly states.
I don’t get it. Why don’t they speak out against Plump. He’s a sinking ship.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||September 5, 2020 3:45 AM|
They’ll wait until they see the new polling, R372. Even then they’ll probably circle the wagons.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||September 5, 2020 3:47 AM|
Not true, r353, go look at dl fave the Daily Fail. He's really shitting his pants this time.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||September 5, 2020 3:47 AM|
[quote]He's really shitting his pants this time.
If the drug stories are true, he was before.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||September 5, 2020 3:49 AM|
[quote]A significant portion of the military will remain Trumpsters no matter what.
Sad, but true.
|by Anonymous||reply 376||September 5, 2020 3:50 AM|
We shall see, r376, because he's also going to lose a significant portion of that vote.
Donald and his big fat fucking mouth.
I look forward to his sweaty, panicked, diarrhea-tweeting this weekend. I don't mean to actually bother reading it myself. I just want him freaked out, ranting and raving and deciding that [italic] he alone can fix it [/italic] so he'll go off-script.
I love watching him twisting in the wind.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||September 5, 2020 4:04 AM|
This is the kind of event that depresses turnout among Republicans and persuades undecided Independents to vote for Biden.
This feels like the Comey letter in 2016. I remember when that happened and it so demoralized Hillary supporters that many of them stayed home. This feels like the same thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||September 5, 2020 4:53 AM|
Oh lordy, R378, I hope so.
|by Anonymous||reply 379||September 5, 2020 5:33 AM|
I’m waiting for John Kelly to refute it. He was clearly there. If he doesn’t refute it, then there’s our answer - it’s true.
|by Anonymous||reply 380||September 5, 2020 5:41 AM|
Kelly has stayed silent, and Trump lashed out at him today (friday)
|by Anonymous||reply 381||September 5, 2020 5:47 AM|
I love how the First Whore was forced oh sorry I mean felt the need to tweet how untrue it was based on anonymous sources. So rich coming from the whore who married someone who begins nearly every claim he makes with "many people say" and "I hear". Sources are only required when it's about him. Were there no pussy grabbing tapes he woulda denied that too.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||September 5, 2020 5:47 AM|
So Trump is now infuriating carefully trained snipers with access to automatic weapons?
I'd call that a good day!
|by Anonymous||reply 383||September 5, 2020 5:59 AM|
R383, like you'd even need some specially-trained sniper for that fat fuck target.
|by Anonymous||reply 384||September 5, 2020 6:09 AM|
[quote] This feels like the Comey letter in 2016. I remember when that happened and it so demoralized Hillary supporters that many of them stayed home. This feels like the same thing.
It also feels like the Access Hollywood tape. How’d that work out?
|by Anonymous||reply 385||September 5, 2020 6:47 AM|
R385 It is different. These were slams against fallen and injured soldiers made while he is in office.
|by Anonymous||reply 386||September 5, 2020 6:57 AM|
Yes, it’s different, but I remember how everyone felt when the Access Hollywood tape came out. Rather like now.
|by Anonymous||reply 387||September 5, 2020 7:00 AM|
Fat Donnie’s defense boils down to “some people [italic] Didn’t [/italic] hear him say It.”
|by Anonymous||reply 388||September 5, 2020 9:55 AM|
Every RWNJ who finds an excuse to stay home (or not file by mail) on election day over this helps Biden/Harris immensely. I have stopped believing that many if any GOP cult members can be flipped - but knowing that a few might decide to stay home and not vote works for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||September 5, 2020 10:01 AM|
Remember how in ‘16, when, asked about polls showing him doing so well among uneducated people, Trump said, “I love the poorly educated” (what, btw, you’d expect a flim flam man to at least think, if not verbalize)?! You know that he thinks of these souls - the ones who cannot afford to pay someone smarter to get themselves into college - also as “losers.”
|by Anonymous||reply 390||September 5, 2020 11:14 AM|
Unlike so many of his other scandals — and there are so very many of them — this one appears to have legs. It could be because it is so easy to hear these words coming from tRump’s mouth. Or because so many news agencies rushed in with articles confirming the accuracy of the statements. Or because his denials are riddled with falsehoods — like the phone call back to Melamine in the States expressing his deep disappointment in being unable to attend the WWII commemoration — when, in fact, the Slovenian Whore was on the trip with him.
Whatever the reason, good. Take. This. Fucker. Down.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||September 5, 2020 11:33 AM|
The problem is the latest BLM protest/riot will overshadow this. So protests in Kentucky and Rochester are today’s number one story.
If there is a protest at the Kentucky Derby this becomes old news. Smart civil rights leaders in the past would try to help Biden but today that doesn’t exist,
|by Anonymous||reply 392||September 5, 2020 11:42 AM|
The military is requesting absentee ballots right about now.
Those losers and suckers are voting you out
|by Anonymous||reply 393||September 5, 2020 11:52 AM|
When they have to trot out Melania to tweet, you know they’re feeling the heat
|by Anonymous||reply 394||September 5, 2020 11:53 AM|
It guess it’s easier to ignore Putin paying bounties for Russian soldiers if you think theyre losers
|by Anonymous||reply 395||September 5, 2020 11:54 AM|
Miles Taylor, the former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security, says President Trump’s attacks on John Kelly are “reprehensible.”
“John Kelly has got more integrity and fortitude in his pinky finger than the President has in his whole body,” Taylor said.
|by Anonymous||reply 396||September 5, 2020 11:57 AM|
This is fake news! Remember, we should cares what’s it in heart; not what he says!
|by Anonymous||reply 397||September 5, 2020 12:00 PM|
The Bone Spurs Parade
|by Anonymous||reply 398||September 5, 2020 12:21 PM|
R371 All those traitorous scumbags are lying low hoping to remain below the radar until after election day.
|by Anonymous||reply 399||September 5, 2020 12:27 PM|
I love his defense on attacking the military and fallen soldiers is to attack John Kelly a four star General and military man with a dead son. Brilliant!
|by Anonymous||reply 400||September 5, 2020 12:42 PM|
If you're used to voting Republican, years from now your grandkids will ask what you did in this moment and you will have to tell them if you were a 'John McCain Republican' or 'Donald Trump Republican.'
|by Anonymous||reply 401||September 5, 2020 12:44 PM|
I posted this Atlantic article on facebook when it came out, and a couple of "deplorable" relatives have responded saying it's bs and I should be ashamed to spread news that so many eyewitnesses have denied. I'm not going to respond to their comments, I'll let the facts speak for themselves, but the key word there is "denied." Trump supporters have blind faith in him, and no amount of evidence or argument will change their minds that he's always right.
|by Anonymous||reply 402||September 5, 2020 12:47 PM|
I posted it too and glad that my deplorable friends ignored it or have already blocked me
|by Anonymous||reply 403||September 5, 2020 12:48 PM|
I haven’t been friends with deplorables since the 2016 election.
|by Anonymous||reply 404||September 5, 2020 12:49 PM|
[quote]Bolton says the visit was canceled because the rain complicated helicopter travel, and the drive would have taken too long. Of course this does not directly contradict Goldberg’s reporting. It is entirely possible that there were multiple reasons for the cancellation, or that weather forced the cancellation and Trump decided to justify it by dismissing the value of honoring fallen soldiers. But Bolton’s recollection does count as a point in Trump’s defense.=====On the other side, however, there are many pieces of supporting evidence. The Associated Press, New York Times, Fox News (!) and Washington Post quickly confirmed Goldberg’s reporting. The Post added several related details, in addition to Trump describing fallen soldiers as “losers.” “In one account, the president told senior advisers that he didn’t understand why the U.S. government placed such value on finding soldiers missing in action because they had performed poorly and gotten caught and deserved what they got, according to a person familiar with the discussion.”
|by Anonymous||reply 405||September 5, 2020 12:56 PM|
I remember at the time people thought the weather/helicopter excuse was just a cover because he did not want to go in the rain with his hair. The weather was not even that bad and I believe was actually sunny at the event, which all of the other leaders were somehow able to make despite the weather.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||September 5, 2020 1:00 PM|
I wish the other leaders being able to make it got emphasized more, r406.
|by Anonymous||reply 407||September 5, 2020 1:02 PM|
When are his stans going to realize he's just a spoiled, entitled rich boy who despises them? A rapist, cheat, liar, bigot, philanderer... who asked Russia to make him President?
|by Anonymous||reply 408||September 5, 2020 1:07 PM|
it was in liberal circles
|by Anonymous||reply 409||September 5, 2020 1:17 PM|
He’s literally the worst person in the world. But we already knew that, didn’t we?
|by Anonymous||reply 410||September 5, 2020 1:31 PM|
Well, the reporter at R272 was quoted as saying she could confirm *most* of the story, but not "the most salacious parts" - but still, for Fox News, that they even confirmed ANYTHING is worthy of note
Next up: pressure is building on John Kelly to speak up one way or the other; Dump, of course, launches a petty attack on him. If someone of note: Kelly...or even better, MATTIS, confirms this story on the record or even just lends credence ("yeah, he said shit like that all the time, so I'm not surprised"), shit could get interesting...
|by Anonymous||reply 411||September 5, 2020 1:38 PM|
All those other heads of state managed to get there but the US president's helicopter got tripped up by rain? What happened to making America great again?
|by Anonymous||reply 412||September 5, 2020 1:40 PM|
Kelly already stated it is not appropriate for a 4 star general to comment on this during the election. It might be my anti-Trump bias, but if he could have simply denied it he would have.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||September 5, 2020 1:42 PM|
"What happened to making America great again?"
The Republicans have decided that was too PC. They're going with "making America white and great again" for now.
|by Anonymous||reply 414||September 5, 2020 1:44 PM|
Remember: everyone thought the "grab the by the pussy" tape would be the end of Dump and it was just the beginning....
BUT: as other comments have noted, no matter how you feel about wars or the military, denigrating those who serve - and even worst, those who are killed or injured is just beyond the pale. And his words are consistent with shit he's said in the past, so it's not out of left field.
It will be interesting to see how Fox News plays this; not Chris Wallace, but those Fox & Friends dipshits. If he's lost them, he's screwed.
|by Anonymous||reply 415||September 5, 2020 1:46 PM|
Even if it's true, the myth of the Trump voter who is embarrassed to admit they are a MAGAt will have zero impact on the election.
Where and why would someone be afraid to admit they like Trump?
In a very blue state where everyone they know feels Trumpists are just Nazis once removed.
If you live in Oklahoma or Arkansas or some other major pro-Trump area, you are going to be proud to being a Trumpist.
Meaning that even if it is true, it just means Biden wins CT 60-40 instead of 65-35.
|by Anonymous||reply 416||September 5, 2020 1:47 PM|
^^proud to admit to being a Trumpist
|by Anonymous||reply 417||September 5, 2020 1:48 PM|
Trump survived the Access Hollywood tape, and other scandals in his first campaign, by not denying it. He brazened it out. He acted as if was just a joke. This time, though, he’s lying frantically, even when faced with taped evidence. He can’t pretend he’s just clowning around or that his sociopathy is “funny” because people now know how awful and incompetent he really is.
|by Anonymous||reply 418||September 5, 2020 1:51 PM|
Also R418 there was the verboten-to-mention-on-DL fact that many people assumed that his opponent's husband had made similar comments many times and so she had little standing with which to call him out on it.
No one thinks Joe Biden hates or mocks our troops.
|by Anonymous||reply 419||September 5, 2020 1:58 PM|
At this rate, I'm surprised Trump isn't forcing Barron, Tiffany, Eric and Traitor Tot Donnie Jr. at threat of disinheriting them, to ENLIST NOW!
|by Anonymous||reply 420||September 5, 2020 1:59 PM|
Just wait, Della. His family is so scummy one of them may bring up that “Daddy didn’t want us to enlist” and not know that’s bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 421||September 5, 2020 2:08 PM|
indeed, they consider themselves princes and princesses
|by Anonymous||reply 422||September 5, 2020 2:11 PM|
Pence is a military dad.
Somebody needs to get him on the record.
|by Anonymous||reply 423||September 5, 2020 2:13 PM|
Trump’s past is catching up with him, again.
cue Putin having Wikileaks and FOX dump internal DNC emails in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
|by Anonymous||reply 424||September 5, 2020 2:23 PM|
[quote]When are his stans going to realize he's just a spoiled, entitled rich boy who despises them? A rapist, cheat, liar, bigot, philanderer... who asked Russia to make him President?
Because they themselves are several of those things. Vile people support him.
[quote]At this rate, I'm surprised Trump isn't forcing Barron, Tiffany, Eric and Traitor Tot Donnie Jr. at threat of disinheriting them, to ENLIST NOW!
Which is funny considering he actually will disinherit them if they do
|by Anonymous||reply 425||September 5, 2020 2:34 PM|
What does Sarah Palin, mother of Pvt. Track (the sucker who was sent to war to avoid jail time for cutting school bus brakes), have to say? She's been eerily quiet lately.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||September 5, 2020 2:43 PM|
Pence isn't saying shit. Trump is the only reason Pence has any political relevancy now. Trump rescued him as he was about to be humiliated in his own red state reelection campaign.
|by Anonymous||reply 427||September 5, 2020 2:48 PM|
Let's not forget that Trump doesn't just need the vote of Trumpkin zombies to win. They are less than 25% of Americans. Then there's another 20% or so of people who aren't that political and trend toward Trump because there is that-or-that which they're basically satisfied with.
He needs that second batch of people, the undecideds, to win. They are not going to forgive him just because he's him, like the first group will.
Also some have said jokingly that Trump is going to force his family members to join the military to cover his ass for this, but that shows a misunderstanding of Trump. When he is criticized, he doesn't kowtow -- he does the opposite. When he is criticized, he does the thing he's been criticized for TWICE AS MUCH. And that "oh yeah? Well fuck you" attitude is what his fans adore and worship.
|by Anonymous||reply 428||September 5, 2020 3:24 PM|
If my son dies, then our leader is right -- he's a loser!
|by Anonymous||reply 429||September 5, 2020 3:26 PM|
The buried lede here is that Trump didn't want to go to the memorial because his carefully, immaculately coiffed 'do might be disrupted by prevailing meteorological conditions.
Is he secretly one of the girls after all?
|by Anonymous||reply 430||September 5, 2020 3:31 PM|
Not just lately, R426. She hadn’t really said much this entire administration. This would actually be a good time for them to haul her out since the McCain people have all been trashing her and also all now work for Project Lincoln.
She and Pence would both just lie and call it fake news, I’m sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 431||September 5, 2020 3:33 PM|
It's sticking because Kellyanne Goebbels isn't there to spin his sociopathy away. It's sticking because we've all heard him say disgusting things similar to this for almost four years straight. It's sticking because his disinterest and ineptitude has lead to the deaths of almost 190,000 Americans from COVID.
We don't need for it to stick with everyone. We only need it to stick with enough people to get him the fuck out of the White House. Those who see the truth need to VOTE BLUE!
|by Anonymous||reply 432||September 5, 2020 3:39 PM|
The difference between this and the Access Hollywood tape is simple.
[Warning: Unpopular Opinion] Only a select number of people were really outraged by the grab them by the pussy tape, and those people were already probably going to vote for Hillary anyway. And this is gonna sound harsh, but the types of women that Donald Trump fools with are the grab them by the pussy types, anyway. None of that was shocking.
The US Military, for better or worse, is sacred. The military, for the most part, is something that everyone can agree on. You just can't speak against the troops, that is just the bridge too far.
Now, let's be clear, his true supporters aren't going to abandon him over this. They will fake news this or twist themselves into pretzels to ignore it or try and rationalize it. "Oh you know Trump, he was just joking."
But who this may have strong affect on is the fence sitter. The independent. The family with a dead service member. The republican who always votes for republicans, but will sit this one out this time and vote for every candidate on the ballot, except president. That's who this will hit. And that's all we really need. Inches. The whole enchilada would be nice, but a race won by inches is still a race won.
|by Anonymous||reply 433||September 5, 2020 3:45 PM|
Another reason I think this hits harder than some of his other scandals is the sheer coincidence of timing. With COVID stil a concern and violence a concern , the White House spent an entire news cycle focusing on Nancy’s hair. Even Republicans who joined in felt it was petty. And then, as that was finally playing out, one of the bigger scandals of his tenure broke and they had just drained the well of good-will.
|by Anonymous||reply 434||September 5, 2020 3:55 PM|
R330, Poor Russians soldiers!
|by Anonymous||reply 435||September 5, 2020 4:01 PM|
[quote] Only a select number of people were really outraged by the grab them by the pussy tape, and those people were already probably going to vote for Hillary anyway. And this is gonna sound harsh, but the types of women that Donald Trump fools with are the grab them by the pussy types, anyway. None of that was shocking.
And again, R433, of the group of outraged voters, a large percentage also assumed it was likely that Bill Clinton had, at some point, also grabbed women by the pussy and bragged about it and thus it wasn't really something she could crucify Trump about... ESPECIALLY since Trump and the Clintons had been good social friends, B&H even serving as special guests at the Trump/Slovenian Whore wedding... leading many to assume that Bill and Don may well have engaged in joint pussy-grabbing activities along the way.
No one thinks Biden ever had anything other than high compliments and strong respect for the military, his son having served, and the tragedies of his life making him quite attuned to the tragedies of military deaths.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||September 5, 2020 4:01 PM|
R400, Insightful. Should be posted everywhere! Attacking Kelly proves Trump is quite capable of making and likely to have made all the remarks attributed to him on this topic.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||September 5, 2020 4:05 PM|
[quote]Next up: pressure is building on John Kelly to speak up one way or the other; Dump, of course, launches a petty attack on him. If someone of note: Kelly...or even better, MATTIS, confirms this story on the record or even just lends credence ("yeah, he said shit like that all the time, so I'm not surprised"), shit could get interesting...
Don't expect those 2 cowards to utter one word.
Remember... they are Republicans before they are Americans.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||September 5, 2020 4:07 PM|
Nimrata tweeted some false outrage about how Biden should take his posts down as everyone knows Trump loves the military and is getting skewered on Twitter for it, with many using "Nimrata" instead of Nikki to mock her.
|by Anonymous||reply 439||September 5, 2020 4:08 PM|
[quote] [Warning: Unpopular Opinion] Only a select number of people were really outraged by the grab them by the pussy tape,
Speak for yourself, my friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 440||September 5, 2020 4:11 PM|
I wonder if Kellyanne is the leaker.
|by Anonymous||reply 441||September 5, 2020 4:13 PM|
Who the fuck is advising Haley. She should have just stayed out of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||September 5, 2020 4:13 PM|
I don't understand why any military person thinks they are immune from Trump's disdain.
He values money, celebrity and himself. Recall when Mr. Khan asked the question of what sacrifices Trump has ever made and when George Stephanopoulos asked him that question, his answer was about his businesses/profits. He doesn't even understand what sacrifice means.He put it in his fucking will that he would cut off his kids if they joined the military or peace corps. If you do anything in your life that isn't about making tons of money, he isn't interested in you.
I mean people are forgetting another thing he said: When some general was briefing him, his response was "He's smart. Why did he join the military?" His fucking idiots supporters don't believe that one either? They think every single one of these stories is a lie? It's precisely who he fucking is. It's no shock at all. I was only shocked others were.
|by Anonymous||reply 443||September 5, 2020 4:15 PM|
OMG, Nimrata's ratio...
|by Anonymous||reply 444||September 5, 2020 4:16 PM|
Both Joe and Jill Biden have spent YEARS supporting military families and made it a huge priority since 2011 during their previous time in the White House.
Joe and Jill Biden are truly the opposite of Anusmouth in the best of ways.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||September 5, 2020 4:18 PM|
R402, just keep posting the videos of Trump denigrating McCain, the gold star families, making fun of the disabled journalist, etc. deplorable shit.
Hit your deplorable relatives with Trump's own words.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||September 5, 2020 4:21 PM|
R402 should also send this so when they HEAR the things Trump has said about POWs that can't be denied, they look at this man's face and hear his words..
|by Anonymous||reply 447||September 5, 2020 4:24 PM|
yeah, all these spokeswhores are fighting a losing battle. They're all just doing a rendition of the old Richard Pryor joke, "Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"
|by Anonymous||reply 448||September 5, 2020 4:25 PM|
The Murdochs will keep Fox and their other media behind Trump. Rupert & Pootie are tight also.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||September 5, 2020 4:25 PM|
R449, they will until he doesn’t make them money anymore. But yes, right now, he makes them money.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||September 5, 2020 4:31 PM|
I would argue that they would make even more money during a Biden administration.
|by Anonymous||reply 451||September 5, 2020 4:33 PM|
[quote]Rupert & Pootie are tight also
And I was tight with both of them!
|by Anonymous||reply 452||September 5, 2020 4:34 PM|
"...just keep posting the videos of Trump denigrating McCain, the gold star families, making fun of the disabled journalist, etc. deplorable shit.
Hit your deplorable relatives with Trump's own words."
Who sees these? Why are they not on NASCAR telecasts and at any event that Republicans and Independents watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||September 5, 2020 4:37 PM|
Kelly would have said something if the story were completely false.
Because it’s true, Kelly says that a former 4-star General should not comment during an election
|by Anonymous||reply 454||September 5, 2020 4:38 PM|
"And this is gonna sound harsh, but the types of women that Donald Trump fools with are the grab them by the pussy types, anyway."
Nice of you to blame the victims, you're not any better than Trump
|by Anonymous||reply 455||September 5, 2020 4:42 PM|
Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin responds to Trump’s tweet calling for her to be fired, over her reporting to confirm he disparaged U.S. troops.
“My sources are not anonymous to me, and I doubt they are anonymous to the president.”
Also, her sources are “unimpeachable.”
|by Anonymous||reply 456||September 5, 2020 4:46 PM|
Senatrice has "spoken" or...NOT.
|by Anonymous||reply 457||September 5, 2020 4:50 PM|
[quote]“My sources are not anonymous to me, and I doubt they are anonymous to the president.”
Also, her sources are “unimpeachable.”
The main source for the story has to be John Kelly.
|by Anonymous||reply 458||September 5, 2020 4:53 PM|
This is the best response to the Senatrice's tweet
"Have you tried driving to the White House and playing “In Your Eyes” on a boom box outside his window?"
|by Anonymous||reply 459||September 5, 2020 5:02 PM|
Their new talking points.....suck.
Daily Beast: “Trump aides, Republican operatives, and former and current friends of the president, several of them mounted a curious defense of Trump. Yes, they admitted, the commander in chief at times makes callous, tone-deaf comments about American military personnel behind closed doors. But it’s because he hates the wars they’re forced to fight, not the service members themselves.”
Said one senior administration official: “The president means no disrespect to our troops; it’s just that the way he speaks, he can sound like an asshole sometimes. That’s how he is when the cameras are off… It’s his style.”
|by Anonymous||reply 460||September 5, 2020 5:06 PM|
If you've ever known a real-life Trump, the self-made owner of a family business whose kids and associates spend most of their lives apologizing for him, that is exactly the sort of mental gymnastics they get themselves into.
"He gets frustrated when deals take a long time to happen, and he just takes it out on whoever is nearest. He's called all of us "lying, conniving assholes" and threatened to beat us to death with a shovel too!"
|by Anonymous||reply 461||September 5, 2020 5:09 PM|
If you donate money to MeidasTouch R453, they can be in all those places
But the networks who carry NASCAR events charge money to run ads during those events and so someone will need to buy the air time.
As it is, MT ads get millions of views on social media and thus plenty of exposure.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||September 5, 2020 5:12 PM|
[quote] Pence is a military dad.
He has a new fetish now??
|by Anonymous||reply 463||September 5, 2020 5:15 PM|
From what I saw in my morning paper, it seems the Pentagon has walked back shutting Stars and Stripes down.
|by Anonymous||reply 464||September 5, 2020 5:16 PM|
From what I saw in my morning paper, it seems the Pentagon has walked back shutting Stars and Stripes down.
|by Anonymous||reply 465||September 5, 2020 5:16 PM|
LOL, R459! i was about to post it here. OMG. Hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 466||September 5, 2020 5:19 PM|
I can totally see Daddy Pence in assless chaps now.
|by Anonymous||reply 467||September 5, 2020 5:25 PM|
He's saying that Vietnam vets didn't know how to "exploit the system"
|by Anonymous||reply 468||September 5, 2020 5:29 PM|
That's so weird, R463. I can't believe those two Fundies are going anywhere near Halloween.
They must be going under cover for Jesus. Posing as normal, when we all know they are not anywhere near any recognized norm.
|by Anonymous||reply 469||September 5, 2020 5:34 PM|
My interpretation of those comments, R460: “He hates democracy so much that he hates the people who defend it.”
|by Anonymous||reply 470||September 5, 2020 5:39 PM|
[quote] From what I saw in my morning paper,
Where it's always 1985
|by Anonymous||reply 471||September 5, 2020 5:41 PM|
It's sticking, alright. People are fucking mad.
This cunt didn't just slam in "the military" in a general sense. He specifically refused to set foot in Belleau Wood which is sacred ground to EVERY US Marine. He specifically attacked the Marine Corps by calling them losers and sucjerst.
Who in the actual fuck does something this goddam dumb?
Then he refused to visit the beaches at Normandy on the 75th anniversary of D-Day because he did want his rats nest to get wet?
Any other president, hell, any other American would be honored to represent and pay their respects to the men who died trying to break hitler's back in western europe. At the very least to respect General then President Eisenhower.
But this fool not only refused to go, he called all of these men, including the 191st and 82nd airborne divisions "losers".
No matter how you personally feel about our military, every boomer kid grew up watching war movies on TV. There were TV shows about WWII that boomer kids watched, probably with a parent who had served or a parent who had lost a spouse in WWII. The names of those places and those divisions are familiar to those boomer kids.
It's demoralized some of his older voters. It's demoralized his military supporters. This is a body blow to him and I doubt he recovers. These people aren't going to vote for him. They are just going to stay home in disgust.
That being said, WE still need to motivate and vote. Vote in a landslide. Vote to kick turtle in the cunt. Vote to restore respect to this country. Vote no matter what
|by Anonymous||reply 472||September 5, 2020 6:17 PM|
He isn't self-made, r461, and when have you ever heard his evil brats apologize for him?
|by Anonymous||reply 473||September 5, 2020 6:20 PM|
The Dump supporters are out in full force today defending Hair Fuhrer and denouncing this as all LIES!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 474||September 5, 2020 6:23 PM|
[quote] He put it in his fucking will that he would cut off his kids if they joined the military or peace corps
It was in his pre-nup with Marla, not his will.. It was specifying when Tiffany’s child support ended, not about disinheriting her. It applied when she got a job, joined the military or peace corps. That’s not unusual. In fact most child support ends at 18.
Mary Trump does say he threatened to disinherit Don Jr. if he joined the army, but I suspect he makes that threat about a great many things.
|by Anonymous||reply 475||September 5, 2020 6:24 PM|
Well, here's the answer to the question about how Fox News is handling this; they're hanging their own reporter, Jennifer Griffin, out to dry while broadcasting reporting from John Roberts (via Bolton - that shitstain!) that it isn't true. After that it's all propaganda, all the time. I thought this might be the thing causing Fox News to cut Dump loose, but apparently not. They are doubling down on their support of Cheetolini
|by Anonymous||reply 476||September 5, 2020 6:24 PM|
So mad I can't type
|by Anonymous||reply 477||September 5, 2020 6:35 PM|
It's interesting that Trump (or Fox or whoever) is using the term "most salacious" for the most damaging part of the Atlantic report; there's nothing literally salacious in the story, but that's the term the Democrats used to describe (and criticize) the Starr report about Clinton 20+ years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 478||September 5, 2020 6:38 PM|
What's amazing is how they're misinterpreting what that asshole Bolton even said. He said he didn't hear it, not that Trump never said it and he goes onto pretty much say "but I wouldn't be surprised if he did."
And the sources who are defending Trump are people like Stephen Miller and Kushner. You know that it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 479||September 5, 2020 6:39 PM|
Well it's not like they're going to admit it's true R479
"Lie, keep lying and enough people will believe you" has been Trump's MO for a while.
Even Pussygate, which is on camera--many of his supporters believe it was faked.
Ditto the affair with Stormy Daniels-- Fake News
|by Anonymous||reply 480||September 5, 2020 6:45 PM|
I honestly don't even hate Trump at this point. I hate his supporters and enablers - the ones who know it's fucking true and say nothing or defend him. It would be such a wonderful world if they all just fucking died. They are poison to humanity.
|by Anonymous||reply 481||September 5, 2020 6:48 PM|
Well, Corona and Trump himself are working on that, r481
|by Anonymous||reply 482||September 5, 2020 6:51 PM|
R457 Miss Lindz tweets:
"Well done, Mr. Oresident".
The kompromat must be immense.
|by Anonymous||reply 483||September 5, 2020 6:54 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 484||September 5, 2020 6:54 PM|
I think it's disingenuous for Kelly to say "well, I'm a 4 star & it's in appropriate for me to weigh in." Dude, - after what they did to Vindman (AND his brother) why would any junior level person speak out? - you're a retired old fuck with no left to lose; if you really believed that Dump is bad for the country (and I think you do), here's your opportunity to put a knife in his heart
|by Anonymous||reply 485||September 5, 2020 6:57 PM|
[quote] you're a retired old fuck with no left to lose;
Agreed, except political ostracism. Besides his book deal, that's the main reason Bolton is holding back now and why he didn't testify in the impeachment hearing.
Social and political Siberia is the last place these old guys want to be ; principles be damned.
And neither Bolton or Kelly know who will "win" the election, another reason they don't want to be courageous and out Trump on the record.
If Trump is re-installed, people like Colonel Vindman will have to watch out for their lives, money, and employment viability because there will be hell to pay. Kelly doesn't want that for himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 486||September 5, 2020 7:11 PM|
Ah yes, Trump "we should have seized all of Iraq's oil" was not disrespecting the troops, but just commenting in his own awkwardly blunt way about the horrors of war.
|by Anonymous||reply 487||September 5, 2020 7:29 PM|
Nothing new here, folks, he showed his cards long ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 488||September 5, 2020 7:34 PM|
The above actually IS a fake quote.
|by Anonymous||reply 489||September 5, 2020 7:35 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 490||September 5, 2020 7:38 PM|
He also said of the NAVY Seal commander from the OBL capture that he was a Hillary fan and that he should've caught OBL sooner.
General Draft Dodger, ladies and gentlemen.
|by Anonymous||reply 491||September 5, 2020 7:48 PM|
No one of political import is coming to Trump's defense. They will talk about other things, or stay silent. Unlike other crises, they are leaving him out to dry. Why? Because it is true. And they know it will used by The Dems to pummel him for the next 60 days. The Republicans are in full-blown crisis mode right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 492||September 5, 2020 8:09 PM|
Lindsey Graham, who has spent his political career as a "hawk", advocating for military intervention as a solution for most everything; and is a huge proponent of the military industrial complex, can't muster any courage to criticize Putin for putting a bounty on U.S. troops in Afganistan. And Graham is silence about Trump calling U.S. troops, killed in battle, as losers, is sickening. Graham's sycophantic behavior toward Trump and Putin, like a bitch in heat, is utterly disgusting.
|by Anonymous||reply 493||September 5, 2020 8:22 PM|
Bunker Trump needs to off himself
|by Anonymous||reply 494||September 5, 2020 8:59 PM|
Has Tiffany Trump weighed in yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 495||September 5, 2020 9:14 PM|
Yes R495 she has and came in at a slim185lbs but she was wearing clothes.
|by Anonymous||reply 496||September 5, 2020 9:18 PM|
Have we heard from Becki and Jerry Falwell yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 497||September 5, 2020 9:18 PM|
Jennifer Griffin is one of those people who always confused me when I'd see her on Fox. She seemed like she could have had a job with a legit news org.
|by Anonymous||reply 498||September 5, 2020 9:20 PM|
We should rename the big tomb in Arlington National Cemetery “Tomb of the Unknown Loser”.
|by Anonymous||reply 499||September 5, 2020 9:23 PM|
I am surprised they don't seem to have mounted a legitimate counter to all of this, especially going into the Sunday news shows. Maybe they're counting on the Labor Day holiday to give them some more time.
|by Anonymous||reply 500||September 5, 2020 9:33 PM|
The Stars and Stripes is a newspaper that's been around for decades. That said, it is doubtful most military service personnel read it often. The Internet, inclusive of social media, and TV news, are available to near all of them. Few, particularly younger people in the service, are interested in newspapers.
|by Anonymous||reply 501||September 5, 2020 9:58 PM|
What counter could there be? They’ve denied the story. The story is true. The best they can hope for is a new story to take attention away.
|by Anonymous||reply 502||September 5, 2020 9:59 PM|
If only someone had thought to build a website for Stars and Stripes R501
[Again-- Datalounge. Where it's always 1985]
|by Anonymous||reply 503||September 5, 2020 10:00 PM|
IT'S ALL GOOD; Fox News talking about the Kentucky Derby!
|by Anonymous||reply 504||September 5, 2020 10:08 PM|
Fabulous, R504! I hear Kellyanne Conway is a cinch to place!
|by Anonymous||reply 505||September 5, 2020 10:11 PM|
R504 They can ignore it, but they can't disprove it -- hell, they reinforced it themselves -- and it won't go away.
|by Anonymous||reply 506||September 5, 2020 10:15 PM|
Another sex scandal?
|by Anonymous||reply 507||September 5, 2020 10:22 PM|
R277, Who cares what random people think? I didn't before the Internet, and I decidedly do not now.
|by Anonymous||reply 508||September 5, 2020 10:32 PM|
I thought this would endear him to Democratic voters.
|by Anonymous||reply 509||September 5, 2020 10:44 PM|
For fuck's sake. I never paid much attention to mentions of Russian trolls on the site. But I smell troll daily now. Russian or otherwise. Gay sites are the wrong trees to bark at stupid fucks. You're shit is no good here. Be gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 510||September 5, 2020 10:56 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 511||September 5, 2020 10:59 PM|
cUnTs will be CUNTS
|by Anonymous||reply 512||September 5, 2020 11:00 PM|
CNN is now confirming the story. Along with Fox, Washington Post, AP....
|by Anonymous||reply 513||September 5, 2020 11:02 PM|
How can you verify a story with unnamed sources?
|by Anonymous||reply 514||September 5, 2020 11:06 PM|
R514, were you born today? The journalists themselves know who they are. Why are some of you acting as though there aren't countless stories all over the world by journalists who use unnamed sources? That's how you get scoops, dumbasses. It really is as though with the coming of Trump, stupidity is in the air and people have forgotten how the world actually works.
|by Anonymous||reply 515||September 5, 2020 11:09 PM|
Ask yourselves why Trump goes to court over everything, but won't over something this bad if it's untrue. His team knows it's true. It's only the demons who still surround him that claim it never happened because they lie about everything else, so this is a no-brainer. They have no conscience. They lie with impunity.
|by Anonymous||reply 516||September 5, 2020 11:14 PM|
Fox, CNN, Wash Post, AP....
Trump's worst weekend...
|by Anonymous||reply 517||September 5, 2020 11:37 PM|
I can't believe we still have nearly two months to go of this shit. What fucking horrible thing is Cheesy Poof going to unleash tomorrow?
|by Anonymous||reply 518||September 5, 2020 11:39 PM|
What fucking horrible thing is Cheesy Poof going to unleash tomorrow?
Someone wanted to unleash this info before early voting started...
|by Anonymous||reply 519||September 5, 2020 11:44 PM|
Republicans must be shitting their pants.
I wonder if there has been some discussion already of having Trump step down from re-election due to his (real) poor health? Pence might lose, but he might be able to help retain Senate seats?
Or will they just have to weather the storm?
|by Anonymous||reply 520||September 5, 2020 11:47 PM|
[quote] What fucking horrible thing is Cheesy Poof going to unleash tomorrow?
Possibilities are endless!
|by Anonymous||reply 521||September 5, 2020 11:49 PM|
Trump will say something crazy tomorrow or Monday so the media will forget this story and move quickly to something else.
He always plays the distraction game when feeling heat
|by Anonymous||reply 522||September 5, 2020 11:52 PM|
I wonder if there has been some discussion already of having Trump step down from re-election due to his (real) poor health? Pence might lose, but he might be able to help retain Senate seats?
The NYTimes had some story about how Dump was skimming off his re-election campaign to pay off his personal legal fees; he won't go without a BIG payout from the repigs
|by Anonymous||reply 523||September 5, 2020 11:53 PM|
You morons bitching about 'anonymous sources' are they same fuckstains who cite doctored youtube videos, airbrushed memes and QAnon as proof that Biden has dementia, Democrats and Tom Hanks eat babies and Donald Trump is playing 3-D chess.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||September 5, 2020 11:57 PM|
R524, as with everything else with those losers, they project. They have the audacity to mention Clinton-Epstein, meanwhile, there's a fucking photo album of Trump-Epstein-Maxwell. And no one would defend Clinton with a predator like Epstein, but boy do those "red pill" fuckers completely ignore every Trump allegation. Gee, it's almost as if their concern for children and teens being abused is limited to the political ideology of the predator. I guess that's why they go after Tom Hanks and not James Woods.
They're full of shit and hypocrisy. Total cunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 525||September 6, 2020 12:03 AM|
JUST IN: President Trump referred to Marines buried at a cemetery in France in crude and derogatory terms, a former senior administration official confirms to CNN
|by Anonymous||reply 526||September 6, 2020 12:10 AM|
R510 "I smell troll daily now. Russian or otherwise. Gay sites are the wrong trees to bark at stupid fucks. You're shit is no good here. Be gone."
They aren't focused on converting people to trumpism here. They're focused on sowing disenchantment with the democratic party, painting a 'both sides are equally awful' picture, encouraging skepticism/doubt about criticisms of republicans, and starting threads about divisive wedge issues to encourage in-fighting (e.g. 'cancel culture woke twitterati have gone too far again', 'protests gone wild', race-bait issues like 'cultural appropriation' and affirmative action, anything trans, etc.). Those strategies can work here to some extent.
The focus here isn't to create trump voters; the primary aim is to dampen democratic voter enthusiasm/turn-out...
One bizarre trend I've noticed lately is an over-abundance of threads started that praise the supposed 'hunkiness' of random republicans (this week alone: Ricky Schroder, Chad Wolf, Jared Kushner, Douglas Murray, probably more). I think they should really retire that strategy though. They clearly aren't quite aware of the level of pickiness among gay men, lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 527||September 6, 2020 12:13 AM|
Oh and I forgot one popular wedge issue they like to use to encourage in-fighting/disenchantment on the left. The age-old sh!t-stirring between center-left liberals and progressives.
|by Anonymous||reply 528||September 6, 2020 12:15 AM|
"President Trump referred to fallen US service members at the Aisne-Marne cemetery in crude and derogatory terms during a November 2018 trip to France to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the end of World War I" - former senior administration official confirms to @Acosta
|by Anonymous||reply 529||September 6, 2020 12:15 AM|
[quote] The focus here isn't to create trump voters; the primary aim is to dampen democratic voter enthusiasm/turn-out...
Actually Ooze, as per Muriel themselves the purpose is to test out arguments and spins they will use on other, larger sites like Reddit and Facebook, where they actually will encounter people they can convert. They know that DL's Eldergays are both erudite and unsophisticated in the ways of the digital world and thus will argue with them endlessly.
|by Anonymous||reply 530||September 6, 2020 12:18 AM|
In addition to what Ooze said, they like to create divisive "identity politics" threads (which Bannon himself admitted was his favorite strategy to employ against the Left.) Then, they can link to some thread here and claim how gays hate minorities, women, the poor, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 531||September 6, 2020 12:21 AM|
MILES TAYLOR has been recruiting fellow ex-administration officials to go on record describing TRUMP’s behavior.
“In the coming days here, I am going to have some news for you in that regard ... we will have more folks attaching their names to direct criticism of the president.”
|by Anonymous||reply 532||September 6, 2020 12:25 AM|
No anonymous source needs to come forward. Forget Trump's cockroach flying monkeys. They are the equivalent of OJ defenders except I think a video would actually convince OJ defenders that he was guilty, but Trump's morons would excuse everything even with video proof. The fact that Trump has a history of calling McCain a "loser" with proof and still had the nerve to claim he never called him one, is all you need to know about the garbage he is and they are.
Normal people see who Trump is and have ample evidence of what kind of grotesque being he is, so why destroy yet another person's career by having them come forward? To whom must they prove what we all know about Trump? His garbage supporters? They aren't fit to be the shit on the bottom of Anonymous' shoes. Sources have nothing to prove to idiots who are already beneath contempt.
|by Anonymous||reply 533||September 6, 2020 12:26 AM|
The fact that Trump keeps using circumlocutions in saying he would "swear on anything" or "on whatever, whoever" makes him sound weirdly like some sort of Antichrist who's unable to utter the word "bible."
|by Anonymous||reply 534||September 6, 2020 12:29 AM|
Many MAGAts believe the Pussy Grabbing tape was not real, was a "deep fake" or something similar.
Trump could produce a tape and admit that he'd actually said it and they'd claim that Hillary or Pelosi had somehow secretly brainwashed him on China's orders.
|by Anonymous||reply 535||September 6, 2020 12:33 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 536||September 6, 2020 12:39 AM|
[quote] You morons bitching about 'anonymous sources' are they same fuckstains who cite doctored youtube videos, airbrushed memes and QAnon as proof that Biden has dementia, Democrats and Tom Hanks eat babies and Donald Trump is playing 3-D chess.
Yet those are the kind of things that are relegated to TMZ or Yahoo comment boards. I've never seen any one posting any of the above non critically. The anti liberal bias is mostly about trans and race issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 537||September 6, 2020 12:43 AM|
Agreed R537, but I have noticed that many DLers don't see past that, that if they see someone post a Q-Anon type thread and mock how ridiculous it is, they will call the poster a Boris and assume they are posting it with approval.
People, DLers in particular, don't read.
|by Anonymous||reply 538||September 6, 2020 12:46 AM|
More, r518. We have to get to January 20th.
|by Anonymous||reply 539||September 6, 2020 12:46 AM|
[quote]Alan! @o2bnobx It’s 2:45 am and the retired Marine who lives behind me just took his Trump sign down, walked it to the street and threw it in the garbage.
Again, I'm going to say what I've been saying from the moment this asshole chose to run: If you knew anything about the way he conducted his life both professionally and personally, if you listened to him repulsively attack so many people...what in hell made YOU think you were an exception to his disdain?
|by Anonymous||reply 540||September 6, 2020 1:11 AM|
R530 Oh yeah... I should have mentioned that. It's a pretty curious thing to me. I would be really interested in hearing from Muriel why she found that to be the case.
I would say though that Muriel made that post a bit earlier in the year. And I think that there's reason to believe that the focuses of the disinformation trolls shifted and logically would shift a little now that we're closer to the election... I'm not casting doubt on Muriel's comments about the disinformation trolls by saying that though and the trolls can, of course, pursue multiple goals at once...
Yeah, good point... Bannon, what a scumbag. He's like the greasier reincarnation of that weasel Frank Luntz.
[For curious folks, the Muriel thread that we're talking about is linked below. Her comments on disinformation trolls are at reply #12.]
|by Anonymous||reply 541||September 6, 2020 1:34 AM|
I listen to the Tom & Lorenzo podcast and they've talked about this. They run a niche website on fashion, but they said that they started noticing a lot of posts on their message board and in their comments sections from Russian IPs. Especially when the posts are about minorities. Apparently they have the same issue that DL has regarding anything on Meghan Markle.
And on another note, I have friend who works for the local paper who says they shut down their comments sections because of a lot of interest from IPs from Russia.
I don't know who is or isn't a Russian troll, but it's clear that you don't need to be a big player for them to target your site.
|by Anonymous||reply 542||September 6, 2020 1:52 AM|
They're all over the politics subforum at Lipstick Alley too. I lurk but don't post there (being a white guy and all, it's obviously not my 'space' so to speak).
They use a lot of very similar strategies there. And the black ladies' there are about as happy about it as we are here at DL.
I especially loved this time one disinformation troll referred to African Americans as "the blacks". And I was thinking, um black people don't refer to black people as "the blacks", lol. And sure enough, somebody called it out a couple posts later with a... "'The blacks'? Really? Okay, Boris."
|by Anonymous||reply 543||September 6, 2020 2:14 AM|
He will deflect and distract
|by Anonymous||reply 544||September 6, 2020 2:40 AM|
R540, I think a lot of people who voted for Trump probably convinced themselves that he was better than Hillary. Or that he was a moderate and wouldn't be so bad. Or that he was just that celebrity guy they knew from watching 'The Apprentice'.
|by Anonymous||reply 545||September 6, 2020 2:54 AM|
They were ignorant tools
|by Anonymous||reply 546||September 6, 2020 2:55 AM|
“The quotes were anonymous, but it has been an open secret in Washington that many prominent retired four-stars have regarded Trump with growing horror as he assaulted the traditions of discipline and professionalism that are bedrocks of military life.”
|by Anonymous||reply 547||September 6, 2020 3:32 AM|
I had two friends die in Iraq thanks to biden'a Iraq war vote.
I can't decide if Biden or Trump are worse for the miltary and the country in general.
|by Anonymous||reply 548||September 6, 2020 3:34 AM|
Fox's Jennifer Griffin: "My sources are not anonymous to me and I doubt they are anonymous [to] the president."
|by Anonymous||reply 549||September 6, 2020 3:36 AM|
They need to SPEAK UP! Our country's future is at stake, damn it. Open your fucking mouths and tell America what a fucking disgrace Anusmouth is!
These assholes would take a bullet to the balls but refuse to sack up and go on the record? WHAT THE FUCK?
|by Anonymous||reply 550||September 6, 2020 3:37 AM|
T550, Biden is every bit as disgraceful, Joy Reid
|by Anonymous||reply 551||September 6, 2020 3:38 AM|
“Trump berated his generals with language similar to that in the Atlantic.
“According to Rucker and Leonnig in ‘A Very Stable Genius,’ Trump said: ‘You’re all losers.’
“ ‘You don’t know how to win anymore
“ ‘I wouldn’t go to war w/you
“ ‘You’re a bunch of dopes and babies’ “
|by Anonymous||reply 552||September 6, 2020 3:39 AM|
Is Anonymous going to speak out?
|by Anonymous||reply 553||September 6, 2020 3:39 AM|
Eat shit on your way to jumping into a grease fire face first, R551
|by Anonymous||reply 554||September 6, 2020 3:40 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 555||September 6, 2020 3:47 AM|
Why am I not surprised I already had R548/R551 on ignore?
|by Anonymous||reply 556||September 6, 2020 3:50 AM|
R555, Belowvw it or not' somw of us don't live in liberal enclaves where we support democrtaic poloticians that claim they oppose war yet support them qhen it counts. Some of us have family members and friends that died in wars Biden passionately pushed for.
Fuck him and fuck the bigots that support him or Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 557||September 6, 2020 3:52 AM|
R5t6, Because you have a habit of ignoring anyone that doesn't recite DNC talking points? Just a guess.....
|by Anonymous||reply 558||September 6, 2020 3:55 AM|
Waste your vote then, R551/R557. Go for it, I guess.
|by Anonymous||reply 559||September 6, 2020 3:56 AM|
Why are we expected to believe that Biden doesn't think military men and women are "suckers" or "losers"?
He's the one who voted to send them off to die for oil.
|by Anonymous||reply 560||September 6, 2020 3:57 AM|
R560, because Biden has never spoken about military members in such a way. And his own son served.
|by Anonymous||reply 561||September 6, 2020 3:59 AM|
Yes, he did that all by his onesy, R560. Sent them all plus his favorite son, just for the oil and made himself a billionaire. Bought all those whores and houses!
Yep, sounds like Joe Biden. Damn. Now I'm not gonna vote, as after all. You've done God's work, R551/R560. God's work, buddy!
|by Anonymous||reply 562||September 6, 2020 4:02 AM|
R61, Actions speak louder than words. It doesnt sit right with me that someone's actions can lead to so much death and destruction and he can just shrug and say "My Bad".
|by Anonymous||reply 563||September 6, 2020 4:03 AM|
If you guys think Biden's son sidn't get special treatment and protection as a senator's son, I have a brige to sell you. It was all for show and apperances' sake. I feel the same way about republicans.
|by Anonymous||reply 564||September 6, 2020 4:05 AM|
I see the troll early morning shift has begun in Moscow.
|by Anonymous||reply 565||September 6, 2020 4:05 AM|
My boyfriend has the same problem after date night, buddy at R563. It's ok. You've done your work, hon. You've convinced us all 👍
|by Anonymous||reply 566||September 6, 2020 4:06 AM|
Ignore the non-entity troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 567||September 6, 2020 4:08 AM|
R566, i'm not rying to convince anyone of anything. Just stating my viewpoint. You ahould ask yourself why you get so triggered at someone not fellating Biden. It's trumpian on your part.
|by Anonymous||reply 568||September 6, 2020 4:08 AM|
Don't argue with trolls. Especially, the obvious ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 569||September 6, 2020 4:09 AM|
Biden would never send his son to Iraq if he thought he was in danger like the poor kids.
|by Anonymous||reply 570||September 6, 2020 4:10 AM|
They may not go on the record, but hopefully it erodes his support among the military enough that they fail to back him up if/when he decides to go full fascist. He really must have some sort of mental deficiency if he can't stop himself from petulantly insulting one of his key pillars of support.
|by Anonymous||reply 571||September 6, 2020 4:42 AM|
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|by Anonymous||reply 572||September 6, 2020 4:53 AM|
Does the troll at R548 etc. have ten thumbs? They can't seem to type for their life. Or maybe it's a symptom of their evident brain damage.
|by Anonymous||reply 573||September 6, 2020 11:37 AM|
Trump had ordered the Pentagon to have the Stars & Stripes shut down. Now that his hate of the military has gone public, he has reversed his order, but is trying to make it look as though tit was the Pentagon's idea to close the paper down, and that he has saved it. I'm sure that his devoted Trump supporters will believe him.
|by Anonymous||reply 574||September 6, 2020 12:16 PM|
Geez CNN's Dana Bash, your softball questions to Robert Wilkie, Secretary. of Veteran Affairs, couldn't be more accommodating. All he did was spin to anti-Obama rhetoric. Couldn't you counter that Obama has not been in office for nearly four years now? Why do you this with Trump Republicans you interview?
|by Anonymous||reply 575||September 6, 2020 2:02 PM|
R570, Biden didn’t “send” his son anywhere. He was a big boy and sent himself. He was in the Delaware National Guard and was called up and sent to Iraq.
Beau Biden was exposed for a long period to military “burn pits” where toxic chemicals were burned around the clock. There have been so many illnesses related to the unregulated burn pits that 126,000 soldiers were on a burn pit registry as of 2018. Their illnesses included rare cancers and neurological disorders.
Joe Biden has said the burn pit exposure might have led to his son‘s brain cancer. There were no formal records kept about what was burned, so we’ll never know exactly what soldiers were exposed to.
|by Anonymous||reply 576||September 6, 2020 2:07 PM|
R570 prefers rich guys who go shoot endangered animals and tweet their idiocy - those are REAL men
|by Anonymous||reply 577||September 6, 2020 3:00 PM|
Dana Bash just phones it in anymore. She appears to have given up her assumed dream of becoming a serious reporter. It’s like she finally realized CNN will only go so far so she just goes through the motions now.
|by Anonymous||reply 578||September 6, 2020 3:08 PM|
Trump is scrambling to find an effective nickname for Uncle Joe. Now he's trying out OBiden. I guess the intent is to throw in some Obama hate and scare into the ring.
But it's such weak sauce. It just looks like he missed the apostrophe in an Irish surname.
|by Anonymous||reply 579||September 6, 2020 3:23 PM|
OBiden? That’s beyond stupid. First, Obama/Biden won — twice. Barack is still very popular. Second, to try and make this into some kind of slur takes several leaps that most people just wont get.
He’s such an idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 580||September 6, 2020 4:24 PM|
LOL, just because his psychotically loser, morbidly obese, tiny dicked self is obsessed with Obama and thinks anything Obama-related is a put down, "OBiden" is the new insult for Joe?
Hilariously low energy and pathetic!
|by Anonymous||reply 581||September 6, 2020 4:29 PM|
Hah when I heard OBiden I didn’t even think about Obama. I thought it was an Irish reference. Very stupid on Dump’s part.
|by Anonymous||reply 582||September 6, 2020 4:57 PM|
Unlike the rest of his awful mistakes, this one seems to be lingering (most are replaced by a new atrocity the next day). People are still angry. Let's hope this last through the election.
|by Anonymous||reply 583||September 6, 2020 5:03 PM|
Soooo....have either McSally or Ernst commented?
|by Anonymous||reply 584||September 6, 2020 5:17 PM|
OBiden just reminds people that Biden was VP to a popular President most Democrats (and a lot of Republicans and Independents by now) would gladly vote for again. Biden is the first one that would say he’s proud of his relationship to Obama.
That’s like calling him Obamacare and saying, if you don’t vote for me you’ll have healthcare!
|by Anonymous||reply 585||September 6, 2020 5:21 PM|
OBiden? Lol Now it is just sad flailing.
This report has done well deserved grievous harm.
|by Anonymous||reply 586||September 6, 2020 5:52 PM|
Is this foofaraw showing up the polls yet? I'm just seeing them staying steady in the last week or so, with Biden between 7 and 8 points above Trump—not a bad thing, but I'd expect it to get wider based on the outrage of the last couple of days.
|by Anonymous||reply 587||September 6, 2020 5:53 PM|
We probably have to wait until after Labor Day holiday on the polling side.
|by Anonymous||reply 588||September 6, 2020 5:55 PM|
Triggered little yellow piss-stained snowflake. Fuck him with a rusty chainsaw.
|by Anonymous||reply 589||September 6, 2020 5:57 PM|
R587, I don't think any of the public polls reflect the events of the past few days.
|by Anonymous||reply 590||September 6, 2020 5:57 PM|
The story just started breaking Thursday night, for many, the start of a long, holiday weekend.
Who the hell conducts polls on major holiday weekends?
|by Anonymous||reply 591||September 6, 2020 6:04 PM|
So sue me, I'm impatient! I want to see a double-digit lead for Biden that lasts for two months and brings him over the top in all the swing states.
|by Anonymous||reply 592||September 6, 2020 6:32 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 593||September 6, 2020 6:53 PM|
oh me too r592, but there are still so many assholes in this country who see him as one of their own. Maybe a few veterans can start peeling away.
|by Anonymous||reply 594||September 6, 2020 7:18 PM|
R277, That one of those morons actually believes that Trump "paid for many military funerals" is proof enough of his supporters' complete insanity.
As a reader of political news and especially of Trump, I know that even as pure propaganda the Trump Administration never tried to pull off THAT risible lie!
How do I know? Because Trump never pays for anything not court-ordered!
|by Anonymous||reply 595||September 6, 2020 7:45 PM|
"OBiden" is a racist dog-whistle. Trump (Stephen Miller) so wants to call Joe a "n......-lover."
|by Anonymous||reply 596||September 6, 2020 7:50 PM|
Trump THINKS? That thing is pure thoughtlessness.
|by Anonymous||reply 597||September 6, 2020 7:52 PM|
The editor in chief at The Atlantic says their “suckers and losers” story is just the tip of the iceberg. There’s more to come apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 598||September 6, 2020 8:13 PM|
He will let n*gger slip on live camera before this is done.
|by Anonymous||reply 599||September 6, 2020 8:22 PM|
Where did you see that R598?
|by Anonymous||reply 600||September 6, 2020 8:24 PM|