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Are BTS a gay group?

Those boys look very fem.

by Anonymousreply 143November 16, 2020 3:44 PM

OP that "look" of theirs seems to be quite popular with the young girls in South Korea and now others around the world. Plus most if not all the members of the group have had some form of plastic surgery.

If one of the members were gay I don't think their label would allow them to come out. There was a scandal in the industry when it was found out that one guy from some different K-Pop boy band was secretly dating a girl who was in a K-Pop girl group. It at first led to their respective labels to deny that their was a relationship going on. Before eventually firing them both from their respective boy band and girl group and dropping them from their labels.

by Anonymousreply 1August 21, 2020 1:02 PM

New single "Dynamite" released today.

First single where they sing totally in English.

by Anonymousreply 2August 21, 2020 10:41 PM

bumperoo

by Anonymousreply 3August 25, 2020 1:37 AM

[quote] First single where they sing totally in English.

It's about time. When they finally broke into the US market is when they started making serious money. Other K-Pop groups have released English-speaking songs. I also think it's their attempt to be recognized as legitimate artists by the American Music industry. They've achieved great success in their concerts, album sales, etc but the Grammy eludes them. I think the single is okay, it's not their best work.

by Anonymousreply 4August 25, 2020 2:02 AM

I have to say, Taehyung looks good in that green 1970's suit.

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by Anonymousreply 5August 25, 2020 2:09 AM

Not fem, just Asian.

by Anonymousreply 6August 25, 2020 2:12 AM

Femme and Asian. Not gay.

by Anonymousreply 7August 25, 2020 5:24 AM

They are talented and adorable.

by Anonymousreply 8August 25, 2020 5:41 AM

All I know is their fans did good with that Trump/Tulsa rally ticket thing and they also are awesome at flooding any hashtag parasitic supremacists try to spread on Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 9August 25, 2020 6:23 AM

The plastic surgery on some of these guys are Kris Jenner levels of scary

by Anonymousreply 10August 25, 2020 7:51 AM

South Korea is fighting with Brazil for Queen of the plastic surgery world. The femme look is big right now for a large segment of the younger population in South Korea right now, hence the look. Weird because South Korea is also deeply conservative in a lot of ways, it seems.

I do think at least two members of BTS are gay, but they haven't sucked MY dick, so...

by Anonymousreply 11August 25, 2020 8:19 AM

They have toddlers haircuts.

Toddlers haircuts on grown-ass men.

Ick.

by Anonymousreply 12August 25, 2020 8:20 AM

They creep me out.

by Anonymousreply 13August 25, 2020 8:26 AM

I love that one one of them is called "Jungkook". Lol. 🙎‍♂️🍆

by Anonymousreply 14August 25, 2020 8:42 AM

There was a thread posted here yesterday about the record breaking views on their new video and I have to admit that I thought they were all gay when I first saw them. R11 was it your thread?

They are all very feminine and have had such a lot of plastic surgery that they are creepy looking. They are also very effeminate in their gestures and movement. Apparently that's what Asian girls like.

To me - they all look like massive flamers. If most of the aren't gay then I would be very surprised.

*Bowl cuts R12. Very unattractive.

by Anonymousreply 15August 25, 2020 8:56 AM

My clit shrinks and turns into a second vag hole by just looking at them. Such a turn-off.

by Anonymousreply 16August 25, 2020 9:09 AM

First South Korea have good plastic surgery for elder gays? Asking for a friend.

by Anonymousreply 17August 25, 2020 9:10 AM

[quote] Apparently that's what Asian girls like.

They've captured the Western market so I don't think it's just Asian girls. Even a lot in the Black community likes them.

by Anonymousreply 18August 25, 2020 9:15 AM

I like the name Jungkook-- its cute. If I get a dog, that's what I'll name it.

by Anonymousreply 19August 25, 2020 9:16 AM

Jungkook may mean pussy.

by Anonymousreply 20August 25, 2020 11:09 AM

Oh please, some of them look exactly like the twinks a lot of you post except these guys are Asian. Same body type and fem features.

by Anonymousreply 21August 25, 2020 1:33 PM

They're not allowed to be in sexual relationships.

by Anonymousreply 22August 25, 2020 2:20 PM

I don't like the way they all wear cheap colored contacts and you can still see big chunks of brown iris. It makes them look like aliens. Clothes wise at the moment, they're cosplaying Harry Styles' 70s looks.

I can only recognise Jimin (tiny and fey), Namjoon (mule faced) and Fugkook.

by Anonymousreply 23August 25, 2020 2:24 PM

They are a lot prettier and more wholesome than the current Western musicians we have today.

by Anonymousreply 24August 25, 2020 8:03 PM

When they all turn 30, they'll be replaced with much younger lookalikes and retired.

by Anonymousreply 25August 25, 2020 8:52 PM

As a gay man, I don't understand why girls would find them attractive. I mean, we all know there are plenty of hot Korean guys (there's been plenty of threads on DL about it...), but this??

Why don't they find guys like in the pic below sexy over there? Put him and guys like him in a k-pop group!

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by Anonymousreply 26August 25, 2020 8:56 PM

This is not some new phenomenon. Very young girls like fem boys because they're non-threatening. Like Bieber when he started out. Look at N'Sync in the early days. Why do you think Justin was the most popular?

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by Anonymousreply 27August 25, 2020 9:06 PM

And Joey was the most popular NKOTB. You're telling me these guys are more "masculine" than K-Pop?:

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by Anonymousreply 28August 25, 2020 9:08 PM

Teenage girls have always gone after cute, non-threatening masculine but pretty boys. A lot of the preteen/ mid-teenage girls of all races love BTS. When I worked with kids at an elementary school that was over 70% Latino/ Black, I met a lot of girls who were into BTS.

by Anonymousreply 29August 25, 2020 9:10 PM

Ehhh... the whole pretty boy craze does have historic precedent now that you all mention it, and it makes sense that some preteen girl who hasn't even gone through puberty would prefer some prepubescent boy who is "non-threatening" as you guys say.

Obviously, I'm not the demographic. These k-pop groups seem like the perfect corporate commercial construct to appeal to teeny boppers. Tailored and scrubbed clean for mass appeal. Quite the feat when it's successful.

I'll settle for older sexy Korean men who I don't find threatening at all....

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by Anonymousreply 30August 25, 2020 9:21 PM

They have dancer's bodies-- lean but muscular. They practice their dance sequences 8 hours a day, 6 days straight and they wouldn't be be limber if they looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

by Anonymousreply 31August 26, 2020 1:22 AM

Everybody sing.

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by Anonymousreply 32August 26, 2020 1:47 AM

Gay? Hmmmm.

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by Anonymousreply 33August 26, 2020 1:55 AM

One of them is going to the army this year and the others will soon follow. When they turn 28, they will be drafted into the military and be gone for 2 years so BigHit has created another boy group to take their place-- TXT who are just as talented and cute.

Unlike BTS, this boy group speaks English and there's one who is half-American. It's like they've already manufactured some younger BTS clones.

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by Anonymousreply 34August 26, 2020 3:10 AM

That guy is super hot R26.

by Anonymousreply 35August 26, 2020 3:23 AM

Why wait til 28 to draft into army?

by Anonymousreply 36August 26, 2020 3:28 AM

Not a penis between them...

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by Anonymousreply 37August 26, 2020 3:30 AM

Those TXT boys look like 12 year old guys.

by Anonymousreply 38August 26, 2020 9:00 AM

This ain't talent, this a byproduct of a ruthless industry killing lots of boys and girls for personal gain, and most of them are fucking gay, don't be delusional.

by Anonymousreply 39August 26, 2020 10:08 AM

Fans always liked femme Harry Styles best too.

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by Anonymousreply 40August 26, 2020 11:10 AM

I'm glad I'm 48 and no idea who they are. But they look and sound fucking awful.

by Anonymousreply 41August 26, 2020 11:19 AM

I think 60 Minutes should do an expose of these Entertainment Companies in South Korea. They put youngsters as young as 13 into these training facilities where they live in dorms, away from families. They still live in dorms even if they become a well-known group. Only a few successful groups like BTS can get their own place and live apart from each other. They treat their female Idols worse. Red Velvet has been a girl band for years but I heard they still in dorms with each other. It makes you wonder what percentage of the profits they receive from their hard work, if any.

by Anonymousreply 42August 26, 2020 8:09 PM

Looky at all the gay experts on teenage girls. WTH.

by Anonymousreply 43August 27, 2020 6:39 AM

What 'hard work' R42?

Do they write their own material? Direct and choreograph their videos?

Or do they just have their photo taken a lot and spend hours in make up?

If that's 'hard work' I'm a Russian bot.

by Anonymousreply 44August 27, 2020 9:02 AM

You are a Russian bot, then.

They work on their vocal, dance and performance skills. If there are 9 members in a group, all of them have to be in perfect sync. They have to learn different dance moves for each song and sometimes they're up to 15 songs in a concert tour. Some of these dance moves are difficult and require practice.

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by Anonymousreply 45August 27, 2020 9:36 AM

^^^Plus they have to rap and sing while dancing.

by Anonymousreply 46August 27, 2020 9:45 AM

They train for several hours a day to keep those lithe super skinny bodies. There's no room for a lard ass like Niall Horan or Lewis Capaldi in KPop. If they do put on weight, their label prescribes them Dexadrine or Phentermine.

by Anonymousreply 47August 27, 2020 10:02 AM

R40 - there is literally no comparison of Harry Styles and these "things" with their heavy makeup, plastic surgery, contact lenses, strangely bowl cuts who all look like their penises have been surgically removed.

No comparison.

by Anonymousreply 48August 27, 2020 10:18 AM

That's racist, R48

by Anonymousreply 49August 27, 2020 10:19 AM

What exactly is racist about my post R49?

by Anonymousreply 50August 27, 2020 10:22 AM

Why are there 9? What magic ingredient do each of the 9 bring to the project?

by Anonymousreply 51August 27, 2020 1:54 PM

Why are you saying Niall and Lewis Capaldi are fat

by Anonymousreply 52August 27, 2020 2:47 PM

Twitter kicked out a bunch of Fake Twitter bots claiming to be Black Americans voting for Trump. LOL

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by Anonymousreply 53August 30, 2020 9:35 PM

sorry, wrong thread. (my computer is acting jumpy!)

by Anonymousreply 54August 30, 2020 9:40 PM

BTS becomes the first K-Pop band to reach no. 1 on Billboard chart. Their song Dynamite is the 46 th song to reach no. 1 at its debut in Billboard history.

They also won 4 awards at the MTV VMA awards - Best Pop Video, Best Group, Best Choreography and Best K-Pop Group

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by Anonymousreply 55September 2, 2020 5:38 AM

And they still look gay as hell to me.

by Anonymousreply 56September 2, 2020 5:39 AM

Has the guy at R5 had eyelid surgery?🧐

by Anonymousreply 57September 2, 2020 5:41 AM

They all have and a lot more than just eyelid surgery R57.

by Anonymousreply 58September 2, 2020 5:43 AM

Their best collab.

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by Anonymousreply 59September 2, 2020 5:45 AM

The navy suit is the best dancer.

by Anonymousreply 60September 2, 2020 5:46 AM

He may have had eyelid surgery. I think he had nose job to make it look thinner.

by Anonymousreply 61September 2, 2020 6:59 AM

Are members of BTS de-Asianing themselves?

by Anonymousreply 62September 3, 2020 3:59 AM

No American group could pull off the precision of their routines, especially starting at 3:09. Their staging is brilliant.

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by Anonymousreply 63November 13, 2020 1:07 PM

I’ve really started to listen to them a lot. They seem like sweet, responsible boys.

by Anonymousreply 64November 13, 2020 1:15 PM

Nop, straight and queerbaiting. It's just fanservice.

by Anonymousreply 65November 13, 2020 1:18 PM

R25 been there done that.

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by Anonymousreply 66November 13, 2020 1:23 PM

They're styled by "stylist noonas" ("noona" means "older 'sister'"). They're styled to appeal to young girls, mostly. It's not like they enjoy looking pretty. This sociology professor explains.

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by Anonymousreply 67November 13, 2020 1:25 PM

Clearly gay

by Anonymousreply 68November 13, 2020 2:17 PM

The '70s had a lot of girly-looking teen idols. Leif Garrett and David and Shaun Cassidy, to list a few. My parents were teens in that decade and they recall many adults bemoaning the emasculation of boys. My father came from a strict, religious household and was not allowed to grow out his hair like many boys at the time. In retrospect, he looks a lot better and masculine in the pictures than they do.

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by Anonymousreply 69November 13, 2020 3:02 PM

R42, how is it any different from Olympic sports in America? Gymnasts, swimmers, etc.?

by Anonymousreply 70November 13, 2020 3:04 PM

The thing with K-pop stars is that they look nothing like average Koreans. When I spent a couple of months in Seoul around 5 years ago, it was weird to see literally whole streets literally dotted with plastic surgery offices, some of the surgery centers had their own buildings. That’s how fucking insane it is over there. Then you see average Koreans on the streets and subway trains, they look nothing like Korean celebrities, pop stars, and actors, all of whom have had extensive plastic surgeries.

by Anonymousreply 71November 13, 2020 6:16 PM

[quote] The thing with K-pop stars is that they look nothing like average Koreans.

The BTS boys without makeup look very much like average Koreans their ages, actually.

by Anonymousreply 72November 13, 2020 6:18 PM

Soobin of TXT, BTS's little-brother group, predebut.

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by Anonymousreply 73November 13, 2020 6:24 PM

Soobin after debut, with makeup.

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by Anonymousreply 74November 13, 2020 6:25 PM

[quote] The thing with K-pop stars is that they look nothing like average Koreans.

The thing about Hollywood stars is that they look nothing like average Americans.

That's the point.

Lesbians, man. Clueless about styling and makeup.

by Anonymousreply 75November 13, 2020 6:36 PM

R75 No, I’m talking about remotely like average Koreans. Here we see attractive people on the streets and it’s not out of the norm. In S. Korea it’s not as prevalent, in fact it’s unusual.

by Anonymousreply 76November 13, 2020 6:50 PM

You're nuts, R76,

by Anonymousreply 77November 13, 2020 7:10 PM

Some of them are up for mandatory military service very soon. If you were the South Korean Govt., would you make an exception in their case, considering the publicity and good will they are bringing to your country, not to mention the money? Or would they be able to serve out their obligation doing USO-type shows?

by Anonymousreply 78November 13, 2020 8:59 PM

BTS makes billions for the South Korean economy so if they go to the military, the money would dry up. The oldest one will be signing up this year but he's really inconsequential. He's not that great a singer or dancer or has the charisma as the others.

by Anonymousreply 79November 14, 2020 1:24 AM

The Jin guy in BTS has been given permission by the government to postpone it for a year.

by Anonymousreply 80November 14, 2020 1:34 AM

This band contains the ugliest guy in pop - NAMJOON,

What a fug face.

by Anonymousreply 81November 14, 2020 1:35 AM

Oh, I doubt that Namjoon is the ugliest guy in pop.

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by Anonymousreply 82November 14, 2020 1:37 AM

R79, that’s Jin, and he’s beloved. He’s the leader and the only one who’s always funny.

They decided no exceptions for pop stars, no matter how famous and/or their contributions to the economy.

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by Anonymousreply 83November 14, 2020 1:38 AM

'Why are you saying Niall and Lewis Capaldi are fat'

Because they are fat, esp Lewis. Two alcoholic lard whores.

by Anonymousreply 84November 14, 2020 1:39 AM

I always going Namjoon so cute. He also has a very high IQ.

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by Anonymousreply 85November 14, 2020 1:40 AM

The only ones I recognise are Fugkook, Jimin and Namjoon. Try as I might, the other three are interchangeable. I could tell the One Direction boys apart straight away.

by Anonymousreply 86November 14, 2020 1:41 AM

always *found

by Anonymousreply 87November 14, 2020 1:41 AM

Love Jungkook.

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by Anonymousreply 88November 14, 2020 1:43 AM

"The only ones I recognise are Fugkook, Jimin and Namjoon. Try as I might, the other three are interchangeable. I could tell the One Direction boys apart straight away."

They all look the same, eh?

by Anonymousreply 89November 14, 2020 1:49 AM

Of course....all Asians look the same.

by Anonymousreply 90November 14, 2020 1:49 AM

My favorite live performance of theirs.

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by Anonymousreply 91November 14, 2020 1:50 AM

They all have whiter than white skin, brown eyes and the same silky brown hair. All about the same height. All have small eyes with the lid removed to make them look bigger. Of course it's hard to tell them apart.

by Anonymousreply 92November 14, 2020 1:59 AM

They don't stand still very much.

by Anonymousreply 93November 14, 2020 2:12 AM

Here you go.

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by Anonymousreply 94November 14, 2020 2:13 AM

Plus their hair color changes daily.

by Anonymousreply 95November 14, 2020 2:14 AM

BTS won WSJ Music Innovator Award 2020

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by Anonymousreply 96November 14, 2020 2:28 AM

Casting a band is really only the beginning! It's a rasslin' match between the boys, and the muse of dance.

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by Anonymousreply 97November 14, 2020 2:44 AM

Streamed earlier today. Jin is the one closest to the camera on the right. So cute.

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by Anonymousreply 98November 14, 2020 2:50 AM

OP, it's apparently racist to point out they look like girls. Many a twitter account have been brigaded for making this very obvious point.

by Anonymousreply 99November 14, 2020 2:55 AM

Seventeen, anyone? Same company now.

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by Anonymousreply 100November 14, 2020 2:55 AM

R34, only the oldest, Yeonjun, speaks English well. The half-German one actually doesn’t.

Unrelated but funny.

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by Anonymousreply 101November 14, 2020 3:06 AM

The flyover Boomers in this thread are such cunts. 😂

by Anonymousreply 102November 14, 2020 3:09 AM

I actually prefer NCT127 to BTS. NCT is more innovative, vocally superior and has the most talented idol in the genre--Taeyong (in blue). . IMO, BTS is overrated when you compare them to other Kpop groups, they're just popular because of the huge following they built.

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by Anonymousreply 103November 14, 2020 4:30 AM

R103, I like both. This is my favorite NCT 127 song. Their music is pretty unique; they have a distinctive sound, don’t they?

Doyoung’s my favorite. I love his voice.

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by Anonymousreply 104November 14, 2020 5:27 AM

R103. This was very cute.

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by Anonymousreply 105November 14, 2020 5:28 AM

[quote] Those boys look very fem.

Oh dear, OP.

by Anonymousreply 106November 14, 2020 5:29 AM

I dunno why elders are complaining about their androgyny when femmes like Boy George and Prince were popular back then.

by Anonymousreply 107November 14, 2020 7:24 AM

Even going back to the silent film era of the 1920s, there was sex symbol Rudolph Valentino who was beloved by women for his 'sensitivity' and ridiculed by men for his 'femininity.' The action star Douglas Fairbanks was seen as the epitome of masculinity and Valentino a threat to it.

by Anonymousreply 108November 14, 2020 8:10 AM

The only decent tall, good looking one is Kai from EXO.

by Anonymousreply 109November 14, 2020 9:38 AM

The younger pop artists and male heart throbs have always been a little feminine than their older peers,,...Justin Bieber, Leo DiCaprio in his early 20's, and Timothee Chalamet. The older they get, the more masculine.

by Anonymousreply 110November 14, 2020 11:14 AM

Among most of the haters here the issue isn’t actually their supposed femininity. That’s a ruse. It’s their ethnicity.

by Anonymousreply 111November 14, 2020 1:09 PM

They've all had plastic surgery to widen their eyes like most South Koreans. Their fantasy consists of 12 year old hormonal bitches.

by Anonymousreply 112November 14, 2020 1:40 PM

Wow, what an indictment, R112. So articulate.

by Anonymousreply 113November 14, 2020 1:44 PM

Is BTS anything like BTK?

by Anonymousreply 114November 14, 2020 2:06 PM

Gross. I like my teen idols to look like Nelson.

by Anonymousreply 115November 14, 2020 2:08 PM

Soobin is #1.

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by Anonymousreply 116November 14, 2020 2:44 PM

R69/R107 a-HEM?

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by Anonymousreply 117November 14, 2020 3:40 PM

R63 oh, that is so...cute.

Yi-yi-yi-yippee-yi-yay, kiddos.

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by Anonymousreply 118November 14, 2020 3:53 PM

i like BTS but I think EXO is superior in almost all aspects: songs, choreography, hotter members. I guess its because they are more sexualized that it's more threatening to some.

by Anonymousreply 119November 14, 2020 4:20 PM

I’m on to fourth generation groups.

TXT, The Boyz, Treasure, Stray Kids, Ateez

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by Anonymousreply 120November 14, 2020 4:25 PM

I think River Phoenix -- especially in RUNNING ON EMPTY -- is what these K-Pop boy groups are trying to look like.

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by Anonymousreply 121November 14, 2020 4:41 PM

We don't want them.

by Anonymousreply 122November 14, 2020 4:52 PM

f(x) were pretty damn gay, and edging toward GNC in Amber's case.

But as they aren't male and are only 50% SK native, guess the racists & misogynists on this board won't care.

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by Anonymousreply 123November 14, 2020 4:57 PM

It's wierd that if a male K-Pop idol is seen talking to a female K-Pop idol or found to be secretly dating, it will be become a major scandal. They will get fan hate and their companies will force them to break up. But if two male idols within the same group are affectionate with each other and act gay, it's okay with the fans, even though homosexuality is looked down upon in South Korea. I wouldn't doubt over 50% of the male idols in Kpop are gay.

The biggest ship is between Taehyung and Jungkook. The fans love those two together. But when there was a candid picture of JK embracing a girl, fans ready to commit murder. Their fandom is huge but sickest on the internet.

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by Anonymousreply 124November 14, 2020 7:26 PM

Kai and Sehun in front.

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by Anonymousreply 125November 15, 2020 12:05 AM

Taekook is the new Larry and the boys play up to it.

by Anonymousreply 126November 15, 2020 1:33 AM

What do the BTS boys do for sex? Are they allowed to have discreet hook ups or does their management have a stable of strictly vetted and std tested escorts to service them?

by Anonymousreply 127November 15, 2020 2:16 AM

Do they masturbate in Korea?

by Anonymousreply 128November 15, 2020 2:17 AM

If anyone wants to go to the next KCON in NYC or LA, let me know.

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by Anonymousreply 129November 15, 2020 5:25 AM

R124 I'm so sorry but who is supposed to be the top? They both look like they're about to whip out a fan and bitch about how they can never find their fave foundation at the drug store.

by Anonymousreply 130November 15, 2020 11:12 AM

Just looking at the videos, I can see why it was inevitable that far east Asia would dominate boybander pop one day. The little girls that consume that genre seek out unthreatening masculinity. Well, it doesn't get less threatening than this. Next stop, drag king boybands.

by Anonymousreply 131November 15, 2020 11:25 AM

R130 the SK cohort make J-pop idols looks butch and alpha.

Gackt (basically the Japanese Bowie) no doubt disapproves. Even in the world of glam and the world of gay, he is vocal in his insistence that men should dominate and prioritise confidence, guts, and all that macho jazz.

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by Anonymousreply 132November 15, 2020 11:28 AM

Shawn Mendes admits that the BTS boys are beautiful. At 4:34

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by Anonymousreply 133November 15, 2020 4:12 PM

The plurality here are surprisingly naive. They’re not femme in real life. It’s all an act—one that’s, shock of all shocks, not for Western eldergays. It’s for girls around the world who are spending real money on albums, merchandise, fan clubs, and concerts.

They show their average-day real selves on VLIVE and WeVerse. Some are jerky boys. Some are nerdy. Very few are femme. They don’t show the cursing, drinking, smoking, and discreet girl-chasing, however, but those things leak out now and then.

It’s all makeup, styling, and years (~3–5) of training to put on an act while suppressing the urge to cringe at their “gayest” behavior.

You’re rubes.

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by Anonymousreply 134November 15, 2020 4:29 PM

Jimin of BTS is overwhelmed by Shawn's beauty. Those two need to get a room.

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by Anonymousreply 135November 15, 2020 8:36 PM

You know, if given the opportunity, those two would hook up.

by Anonymousreply 136November 15, 2020 8:39 PM

Shawn would have to stand in line.

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by Anonymousreply 137November 15, 2020 8:42 PM

Just started learning this on piano — Magic Shop

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by Anonymousreply 138November 16, 2020 12:21 AM

R79, that’s Jin.

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by Anonymousreply 139November 16, 2020 12:55 AM

Jimin is the only gay one. Cute and little.

by Anonymousreply 140November 16, 2020 9:50 AM

R137 yes, Jimin is a darling little mai-ko.

But he won't outdo my legacy. He can't. Hah!

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by Anonymousreply 141November 16, 2020 10:12 AM

Yeah, Jimin's the only one who seems in any way gay. The other guys seem very conventionally straight in real life. Jin can be very homely without makeup and styling, but whatever. I like his looks a lot.

I just really wish that he hadn't made sugar gliders a popular pet, globally now. So many are being poached and stuffed in luggage and shipped overseas.

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by Anonymousreply 142November 16, 2020 1:46 PM

From today.

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by Anonymousreply 143November 16, 2020 3:44 PM
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