Are Doctor of Education (EdD) degrees a joke?

I dunno for sure but I've known borderlines and narcissists with that specific degree.

Yes, OP.

Probably a cruel joke for an uneducated troll like OP.

Yes, Bill Cosby has one.

Jill Biden has earned two Masters, one of them while working and raising children.

Does that answer your trolling, OP?

OP, at my university, the graduate school made a rule that PhD students had to wait a minimum of seven months between filing their prospectus and defending their dissertation. This rule was implemented largely because students in education were defending their dissertation in two or three months. (And no, my university is not a for-profit diploma mill.)

No dissertation of any caliber is produced in 2-3 months.

I'm less familiar with the EdD vs. a PhD in education, but I assume most of the students seeking these degrees are school administrators looking for a professional promotion.

More broadly, the whole discipline of "education" is a joke. In ten years of teaching undergraduates, the most vacuous students, without fail, are education majors. As a professor friend once commented, "They made a discipline about teaching and ... ruined teaching."

I believe this answers your question.

The dissertation would make a great doorstop. In the education field, it's good for a raise to a different pay band, usually.

Granted, it's been a while since I've dealt with more than the occasional EdD, but I've never met one that could provide additional credible uses for said degree.

Go to bed, Melania.

I am ARKYTEXT.

r8 this is a legitimate question. Geez. Not everything is a right-wing attack.

A friend of mine has an Ed.D and would correct people who said she had a PhD. An honest Catholic girl.

Wait ... I just saw the Jill Biden thread. In that context, I see the real motivation for this thread.

I stand corrected at r10.

R5 I didn't know Jill Biden had a Doctor of Education degree until today. I thought she had a PhD, because people on Twitter, Reddit, etc. always say that. But, you're right, she has a EdD degree.

R12 I missed the Jill Biden thread. I'm the OP and my question wasn't meant to be political.

Next time I'll just ask on Reddit.

You do that, doll.

Ok, I found the "DOCTOR Jill Biden" thread. I did NOT post it. My thread is unrelated and I plan on voting for Joe Biden. Since it was only posted a few hours ago, I understand why people thought it was me.

Not criticizing, OP/r16. What prompted you post this thread? Genuinely curious.

Just because Jill Biden has one doesn't mean it's sudden;y prestigious.

Ed.D. degrees vary in quality, based largely on the quality of the doctoral program you're in and the doctoral faculty you work with. One person getting an Ed.D. could have had excellent training, while another could have had mediocre training. The same, of course, is true of a Ph.D., but typically the requirements of an Ed.D. are less rigorous than those of a Ph.D. However, it's not as simple as which degree you have; it's more about the quality of the training.

R17 Someone on a gossip site linked an old People article mentioning how Bill Cosby got credit for his TV work, and dismissing his degree. I always thought that while his degree was a joke, the degree generally isn't.

It's public knowledge that Bill Cosby's dissertation was written largely by his wife r20.

Interestingly, Cosby's dissertation director was a woman.

Why don’t you get one & tell us, OP?

Not as much as a fake degree in architecture.

Troll thread aimed at dissing Jill Biden.

I have friends with PhDs and they are always putting down EdD people.

R25 They sound like nice people.

Plis I hev degree in Arkytekchure & Desine.

I crattuated at top of PH Masters class.

Here's my PhD

PhD's are research degrees and are geared towards teaching. EdD's are less rigorous and do not require original research. My dissertation advisor has an EdD. When we present at conferences overseas, he is listed as Mr. while I am listed as Dr. due to my PhD.

Doctorates that aren't PhDs are usually geared toward applied practice in a field (e.g., MDs, DDS as obvious exaples, DrPHs in public health). Outside of medicine, there's usually some sort of scholarship that's required for one of these applied doctorates, whereas PhD requirements in most field involve an original research and some departments won't confer the PhD until the dissertation is published either as a monograph (in some fields) or (more typically) in a peer reviewed journal.

R19 and R30 Thank you for answering.

R25 I did a search before I asked here and mostly found bitchy academics saying that, but they all seemed super petty.

OP types fat, lazy, stupid and certainly trying to stir up a hornet's nest.

Education is no joke, unless, of course, you are anti-intellectual, cunt OP.

I know plenty of intellectuals who pooh-pooh education degrees, r32

Why? Are they self-taught?

The vast majority of academics do not hold degrees in education, r34.

The best professors I had during undergrad and grad school had never stepped foot in an higher education course.

R35 That's fine, but why knock someone who does have it?

I don't think the criticisms are so much about the people who hold EdDs, but about the discipline itself.

[quote]I know plenty of intellectuals who pooh-pooh education degrees.

Should I fucking care about people you know in your imagination? Go talk to them in your dark corner, psycho. Intellectuals, my ass.

You are oddly and aggressively invested in this argument, r38.

Oh, and you also seem like a troll.

Even working at ACT, which administers the ACT testing programs, it seemed the Ed.D.s weren’t very well thought of, in general. We also had Ph.D.s from various subject areas consulting, but the whole College of Education lost its accreditation at one point. They also offered substance abuse education courses that were mostly taught by incredibly stupid spouses of certain recuited faculty members; this was used simply as a further enticement to get them to come to this cow town. That’s gone now, too. It was a joke.

OP didn't get through high school so yes and EdD is a big deal

It means she's smart and very experiences with education issues

There are many ways humans have devised to demonstrate their superiority.

This is one of them.

Are they and the people who proudly hold them better or worse than those with equivalent degrees in theater? Please give reasons but be gentle. Asking for a friend...

[quote] There are many ways humans have devised to demonstrate their superiority.

No, it just shows someone has studied a long time in that one area.

Friend of mine was a professor at Teachers College (at Columbia U) for a number of years. Even though that's one of the country's top-ranked education schools, she described that faculty was tasked with pushing these people through the process, and she needed to do basic grammar fixing and the like on her students' dissertations to get them through. Typically, the students pursuing the degree have no plans on using it for a research-based career, but instead need the credential in order to be taken semi-seriously by the educational institutions that employ them.