She gave the most famous supporting performance by an actress of all time.
Did the Academy not think it was serious acting?
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She gave the most famous supporting performance by an actress of all time.
Did the Academy not think it was serious acting?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | August 16, 2020 10:55 PM |
As much as people try to claim The Wizard Of Oz was loved by young and old alike (which it was), it was still very much seen as a kids movie. And even back then, movies aimed at children weren't typically honored by the Oscars, at least not for their acting.
Not to mention Margaret was an older, less attractive woman. Even today actresses who aren't 20-something year old models have a difficult time getting awards, imagine what it must have been like in a time where every woman in Hollywood was encouraged to look like Lana Turner. It's not surprising she wasn't recognized when most people back then thought the sum of a female actress's talent was the size of her bust.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 15, 2020 6:35 PM |
Weren’t the Academy Awards less of a big deal in 1939? I’m sure it was always extremely flattering and probably helped with income somewhat to win Oscars, but the awards show wasn’t even broadcast on TV until 1953, and there were no red carpets and no real awards show pop culture thing at the time...or so I thought.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 15, 2020 6:45 PM |
Mo’Nique, Allison Janney, Octavia Spencer, Judi Dench, Viola Davis, Melissa Leo, Marcia Gay Harden, and Dianne Wiest beg to differ R1.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 15, 2020 6:54 PM |
R1 - the first "20-something year old models"' as you call them, to win the Oscar in the best supporting actress category was, well, Theressa Wright? Not really. Ann Baxter? Eve Marie Saint? Maybe Dorothy Malone? This category was formed to honour less glamorous' often more "matured" actresses - and the majority of the winner in this category, then and now, as R3 indicated, indeed were. But yes the winner the year Hamilton failed to get a nod was indeed a 20-something year old model named Hattie McDaniel.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 15, 2020 7:10 PM |
People forget WOZ wasn't a big hit when first released. That certainly worked against Hamilton.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 15, 2020 7:23 PM |
The movie was a critical and commercial success in 1939, which many believe to be the greatest year ever for American film.
It was nominated for best picture as well as three other Oscars. Of course, it won best song.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 15, 2020 7:32 PM |
Miss Hamilton tried to win Oscar votes with offers of sex, but no takers. Well, she tried.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 15, 2020 7:35 PM |
It wasn't seen as a "serious" performance
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 15, 2020 7:37 PM |
Gilbert Adrian should have won an Oscar for the costumes. But I don't think there even was an Oscar for Best Costume Design in those days.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 15, 2020 7:38 PM |
She’s never been given her dues as an actress.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 15, 2020 7:57 PM |
[quote] Not to mention Margaret was an older, less attractive woman. Even today actresses who aren't 20-something year old models have a difficult time getting awards, imagine what it must have been like in a time where every woman in Hollywood was encouraged to look like Lana Turner.
It didn’t stop me, honey!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | August 15, 2020 8:04 PM |
It’s a truly iconic performance. Maybe it’s partially because the witch seems to enjoy being evil.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 16, 2020 5:11 AM |
Margaret was a national treasure.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 16, 2020 5:54 AM |
She wasn't in Trail of the Lonesome Pine, so don't you forget it.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 16, 2020 7:26 AM |
Judy did win a special Juvenile Oscar for her work in OZ. So the Academy did acknowledge what an amazing performance she gave.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 16, 2020 8:12 AM |
She didn’t blow the right dick.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 16, 2020 8:21 AM |
Billie Burke's Glinda the Good Witch was just as deserving as Hamilton. Norma Shearer wanted to do the Glinda role as a lark but her schedule filming The Women wouldn't allow it.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 16, 2020 8:21 AM |
Judy was dreadful.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 16, 2020 8:24 AM |
The Academy Awards were totally corrupt at the beginning and were created as a marketing tool to sell tickets. Hattie McDaniel won, so idea that Margaret wasn't pretty enough is bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 16, 2020 8:47 AM |
I think The Wizard of Oz was simply not taken as seriously as a great work of art as it is nowadays. Now it's considered one of the greatest--possibly the greatest--movie musicals ever made.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 16, 2020 8:52 AM |
First of all, I'd say Hattie McDaniel's is as famous as Margaret Hamilton's, and was a sensation then, if the press of the time is any measure. Hamilton's performance is memorable and vivid. It's also pretty much one-note. And more people probably remember McDaniel's name than Hamilton.
You can't really believe Hamilton should've been nominated then because of its iconic status later and now especially if the film was seen as a child's film.
The list of Best Supporting Actress winners in the 70s and 80s is far more memorable for those actors' work.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 16, 2020 9:10 AM |
The Wizard of Oz was one of 10 films nominated for best picture in 1939. It received six nominations overall. Clearly, it was taken seriously by the Academy but perhaps less for its acting than how it looked and sounded.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 16, 2020 11:43 AM |
Villains hardly ever win at the Oscars. And they are in the minority to be nominated. Especially 80 years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 16, 2020 11:52 AM |
I agree, R9. But the first Oscar for Best Costume Design wasn't awarded until 1949. Although, I have a feeling that Walter Plunkett would've been awarded for GWTW. The period film almost always wins the Oscar.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 16, 2020 12:06 PM |
[quote] This category was formed to honour less glamorous' often more "matured" actresses
I remember reading once (cannot cite the source, sorry) that the Supporting Awards were instituted for the film year 1936 because in the previous year Franchot Tone was nominated for Best Actor. His was a smaller role, not really a lead, especially compared to his costars Clark Gable and Charles Laughton both of whom were also nominated. Having three nominees from the same film was deemed unfair so the supporting categories were created. This created its own problem of course when Walter Brennan won three times in five years because they allowed the extras to vote and Brennan came from their ranks.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | August 16, 2020 12:42 PM |
R16, Maggie was a full blown dyke. Bruce Vilanch tells a hilarious story about her appearing on a Paul Lynde Halloween special that he wrote.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 16, 2020 12:49 PM |
[quote] The period film almost always wins the Oscar.
That's interesting and I went down the Wikipedia rabbit hole reading about that category. What is interesting is that the first 20-25 years of the category there were many "modern dress" winners and nominees alongside the costume dramas. All About Eve, Sabrina, An American in Paris, Roman Holiday, even West Side Story and (bizarrely, at least to me) Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Since 2000 it has all been period dramas, or fantasy films, or films set 30 years in the past. The only exceptions I saw were I Am Love and La La Land.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | August 16, 2020 12:50 PM |
She played Eileen Fulton's mother on As the World Turns.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | August 16, 2020 12:51 PM |
Why, she had a green face silly, and that nose!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | August 16, 2020 1:04 PM |
R27, what is the story?
by Anonymous | reply 31 | August 16, 2020 1:10 PM |
[quote] Maybe it’s partially because the witch seems to enjoy being evil.
Sounds like DL.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | August 16, 2020 1:10 PM |
[quote] She didn’t blow the right dick.
Or she did, and that's why she wasn't nominated.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | August 16, 2020 1:10 PM |
didn't she kill herself later in life?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | August 16, 2020 1:15 PM |
That was Auntie Em, R34.
A very sad scenario that was.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | August 16, 2020 1:32 PM |
I like the story Margaret Hamilton told about her agent calling her to tell her she was being offered the role of the witch and she was surprised. The agent said, what role did you think it would be?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | August 16, 2020 1:35 PM |
Do we have a Margaret Hamilton troll now?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | August 16, 2020 1:36 PM |
She didn't play a prostitute or nymphomaniac. Those roles are usually supporting actress gold.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | August 16, 2020 1:49 PM |
Here’s a clip of the interview R36 mentioned.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | August 16, 2020 2:50 PM |
r35, Mary Carr, the actress who played Auntie Em died at age 99 according to Wiki.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | August 16, 2020 3:31 PM |
Mary Carr was Aunt Em in the 1925 silent version of Oz, R40. It was Clara Blandick who played the part in the 1939 version, and later committed suicide in 1962 at age 85.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | August 16, 2020 3:41 PM |
At age 85?! Is it really "suicide" at that age?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | August 16, 2020 3:47 PM |
Didn’t Maggie bump pussies with Agnes Moorehead?
by Anonymous | reply 43 | August 16, 2020 4:16 PM |
Thank you, r41.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | August 16, 2020 6:12 PM |
"Throughout the 1950s, Blandick's health steadily began to deteriorate. Her eyesight began to fail and she was suffering from severe, painful arthritis. On April 15, 1962, she returned home from Palm Sunday services at her church. She began rearranging her room, placing her favorite photos and memorabilia in prominent places. She laid out her resume and a collection of press clippings from her lengthy career. She dressed immaculately in an elegant royal blue dressing gown, and with her hair properly styled, she took an overdose of sleeping pills. She lay down on a couch, covered herself with a gold blanket over her shoulders, and tied a plastic bag over her head. She left the following note: “I am now about to make the great adventure. I cannot endure this agonizing pain any longer. It is all over my body. Neither can I face the impending blindness. I pray the Lord my soul to take. Amen."
by Anonymous | reply 45 | August 16, 2020 6:15 PM |
[quote]She laid out her resume and a collection of press clippings from her lengthy career.
Did she think she had to apply to get into heaven?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | August 16, 2020 7:06 PM |
R45, that is truly really very sad. What don't these sorts of things happen to Lena Dunham?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | August 16, 2020 7:42 PM |
What's so sad is she wanted whoever found her to know who she was. She wanted to be remembered. Breaks my heart.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | August 16, 2020 7:54 PM |
R47 that made me howl with laughter, my flatmate thinks I'm nuts!
God rest her, I never knew that.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | August 16, 2020 7:56 PM |
Sorry I meant R46 I was shaking with laughter
by Anonymous | reply 50 | August 16, 2020 7:56 PM |
Well at least hers was actually a supporting performance.
The Academy members knew that my nomination in 1939 for Supporting Actress was so obviously a mistake that they couldn't vote for me. They knew that my performance should have been place in the Best Actress category.
I am so happy that I did not win - because after all I am NOT supporting. And the fact that Hettie won just reinforces the fact that I should never have been in that category at all. All of Hollywood was aghast at the mistake.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | August 16, 2020 8:03 PM |
R51 Livvie, how's the afterlife treating you? Didn't you say you stopped believing in God when you lost that award to "Hettie"?
How's that workin' out for you now gurl?
by Anonymous | reply 52 | August 16, 2020 8:07 PM |
Margaret Hamilton was not a lesbian.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | August 16, 2020 8:07 PM |
^^^And I am the man who can prove it!
by Anonymous | reply 54 | August 16, 2020 8:13 PM |
LOL r54 -- you got me~
by Anonymous | reply 55 | August 16, 2020 8:16 PM |
Some of the worst mistakes have been in this category
by Anonymous | reply 56 | August 16, 2020 8:20 PM |
Could not care less whether she won an Oscar- she was wonderful and remains as one of the many great characters in one of the most charming movies ever made. The WWW and the W of Oz transcend the Oscar as few films and stars do.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | August 16, 2020 9:56 PM |
R52 you will be pleased to know that I have been put in charge of the migratory habits of the killer bees. That takes up so much of my time, I haven't even been able to speak to my sister Joan yet.....but we'll see what happens.
I am on the watch for the world, my dear friends. What I miss most is my three wheeled bike, but I'm doing my best.
Kisses.
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