Kamala Harris calls Pete Buttigieg "naive" for comparing black, LGBTQ struggles

Not voting for her!

R1

Troll.

R2' Fuck you.

We don’t like fags no how, anyways. They keep stealing our good mens and giving em tha AIDS.

Now the trolls are using this to say she’s homophobic when she’s anything but.

Don’t fall for the trap.

[quote] What he did on the stage, it's just not productive

Kamala please tell me how this is productive?

She and Biden are made for each other. Both are homophobes.

OP = Troll

R1 = Troll and asshole

These trolls are trying to influence the election and make you white gays not vote Dem. Don’t fall for it

Kamala is ok but she is a 20 th century neoliberal. She got to where she is because of identity politics. Of course it's to her interest to keep previous progressive allies in their different and separate corners.

What Pete is saying is more for building a unity of interests based on shared struggles. The time of his generation will come because Kamala and her ilk will not be able to deal with the working and lower middle class deplorables they fostered in the first place.

R8' Aren't you goning to call me racist and sexist too?

R1 that's fine, just vote for Biden. Otherwise, you're voting for Trump.

OH! Of course OP and R1 and others of this dead thread are all the same troll.

Nice try, Boris Tucker. Now eat shit and go the way of Trump's waist and Russian democracy.

As in:

Kamala Harris calls Pete Buttigieg "naive" for comparing black, LGBTQ struggles "ATLANTA — At a breakfast Thursday morning for black women activists in Atlanta, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., called South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg "naive" for comparing the struggles of black Americans to those in the LGBTQ community during the Democratic primary debate Wednesday night.

“What he did on the stage, it's just not productive,” Harris said to the room of about 200 mostly black women, after explaining that “those of us who've been involved in civil rights for a long time, we know that it is important that we not compare struggles.”

NBC News asked Buttigieg to respond to Harris calling him “naïve” for drawing parallels between being black and being gay. Buttigieg replied that he was not trying to parallel the two experiences

There’s no equating those two experiences. And some people, by the way, live at the intersection of those two experiences," Buttigieg said. "Last night I shared some of my sources for motivation, includes my personal experience, my governing experience and my personal faith.”

The back-and-forth began because of a debate question directed at Harris regarding a stock photo of a Kenyan woman the Buttigieg campaign used while promoting the mayor's Douglass Plan — Buttigieg has since apologized for its use. The plan is aimed at empowering black communities.

During the debate, Harris answered the question by saying some in the Democratic Party have taken the black community’s vote for granted which Buttigieg agreed with. The mayor went on to say that while he has not experienced racial discrimination, he knows the feeling of being an outsider because of his sexuality.

“While I do not have the experience of ever having been discriminated against because of the color of my skin, I do have the experience of sometimes feeling like a stranger in my own country,” Buttigieg said.

In an interview Wednesday night, Harris called comparing the struggles of marginalized groups “misguided."

“So we’re going to now say that my pain is worse [more]

Kamala Harris calls Pete Buttigieg "naive" for comparing black, LGBTQ struggles Not voting for her!

Kamala Harris calls Pete Buttigieg "naive" for comparing black, LGBTQ struggles R2' Fuck you.

Kamala Harris calls Pete Buttigieg "naive" for comparing black, LGBTQ struggles She and Biden are made for each other. Both are homophobes.

R12, i'm not voting for Biden as long as she's on the ticket. No ma'am.

She’s not Trump and Pence. That’s enough to me.

FF OP

Ban OP from DL

R11 also is the OP.

Enough of this crap. It's a racist, homophobic gay creature who posts how everyone loves Dolly Parton but then drops this turd.

K*ll it with fire, troll.

R17, Ban me for posting what she said? You guys are no different from Trump cultists.

The US deserve the leader it gets.

And so it begins. Throw the gay community under the bus. I'll still vote for Biden, but I'm sick of this. And "banning OP' doesn't make the issue go away.

R18, Ive never posted anything about Dolly Parton.

The Democratic debates were over many months ago. A rehashed old article.

Troll thread.

Every country gets the leadership it deserves.

Still voting for her but this is more of her tin ear for politics. Idiotic for her to go near it. She’s damn lucky Trump is that bad if she’s going to keep putting her foot in it. But it’s not really the best thing for a long-term presidential campaign, when people voted for you the first time because they had to.

R23, A lot of things are getting rehashed since she's now the VP pick. Whats your problem?

R19, we are voting Biden-Harris, donating money to them, and gonna make sure our friends and family do the same. Anyone who is not with our goal is our enemy. You are not welcome here or amongst the LGBT community. Begone!

Kamalas media sycophants were extremely homophobic. Zerlina Maxwell, Joy Reid, Jason Johnson, etc. I hate to see them winning.

*Joy Reid likes this*

R27, You're complete dumbass- lgbt people are votes to them and nothing else.

R10: She got to where she is by fucking her way to the top.

I never liked Kamala. She is a snake. She is only out for herself and the blacks. Can you imagine if Pete has said he is only going to help LGBTQ people get homes?? She might be a better option than the orange ass wipe, but that doesn’t make her a good choice.

R28

Fuck off troll.

Well since she’s not perfect, let’s just have Trump win! 🤡

This is from November 2019. The world was different. If she says it again, let's discuss it then.

Rightwing trolldar on this thread. Easy to FF and ban them en masse!

Buttigieg endorsed Harris for VP. Biden even consulted with Buttigeig before naming Harris as VP choice. Harris & Buttigieg aren't having a fuss about anything. The fight is with Trump-Pence, not Buttigieg.

Its lowdown for Kamala to use the gay issue to try to clown Buttigieg. Defenitely not voting for her.

This is from November 2019. The world was different. If she says it again, then discuss it.

OP is named Lyudmila and likes her borscht ice cold!

He had to compare them because that was the basis of angry denunciations of him by South Bend civil rights leaders. She's just twitmayer judging someone she doesn't know and sounding pretty stupid in the bargain. In that respect, she's a good fit for Biden. They are both mediocrities.

Sorry. She's got my vote.

Did anyone see Buttigieg on Real Time tonight?

This is from November 2019. The world was different. If she says it again, then discuss it.

We see you OP.

Theres more anger at me for peosting what she said than at Kamala for actually saying it.

You guys arent cultists at all.

Kamala always wants to sound so smart...until you realize she isn't. Still better than Trump by far.

Here's real news for you, Boris. A good troll is up-to-date on Caitlyn and the Kardashians.

R48, Hon you're the one who's real impressed with Kamala Fuckin' Harris. The kardasians are right up up our alley

R46

Go to sleep!

10 bucks days r48 thinks Cardi B's WAP is a an impressive work of art celebrating blacks womens' sexualities.

OP is vile

R49 R51

R52, Am J vile for posting hat she said or is she vile for saying it or is Joe Biden vile for picking someone whose said what she said?

yes, ff and i mean fist fuck all these trolls.

Exactly. We are not going to alllow them To thrive on an LGBT forum. Come here and get outted and clowned.

R55, Stop right there. Not everyone who doesnt like Harris or Biden are trolls or like Trump. Some people see all career politicians as corrupt or are progressives. They are entitles to their opinions and to voice them.

Your immature, Peter Pan mindset at a time such as this is just as dangerous as being a Trumper. The fact that you don’t seeing beating Trump and his followers as the most important goal of our time speaks volumes about you, and how you are not one who shares our best interest.

This was when they were running against each other. Bygones.

R58, Nah. It doesnt matter ir Biden or Trump is in office. Nothing ever changes. Both are corrupt and evil and only exist to serve the rich.

Thats why good candidates like Bernie got shafted by the dnc.

Kamala is A drunk. Her poor husband

Bernie isn’t a democrat R60. Why wouldn’t the DNC protect the Democratic Party from someone who isn’t a member of the party?

R62, thats true you have to be a soulless corporate asshole who is beholen to billionaires to be a good democrat

The future of the Democratic Party is Kamala Harris. The Republican Party is in a tailspin, really. It's a mess.

That was MONTHS ago during the debates. They all say shit to each other during debates - your even saw Biden and Harris do it to each other.

FUCK her. And I do mean FUCK her. She drilled her worn out puss to get to where she is. Buttigiege worked his ass off, served the country and is still treated like the town faggot.

Fuck this high yellow, fake Afro-proud bitch. And fuck her being Vice President! Now come for me cunts. I don’t care.

this web forum will run riot with trolls

Just FF and BLOCK these fucking trolls. God am I sick of them. FUCK OFF TROLLS!!!!

Black women will vote in huge turnout numbers! Indian Americans and Asians in general will turnout in great numbers to vote in Biden due to her being on the ticket. Republicans wanna play the margins? Biden blocked the fucker

This was thoroughly discussed last year, when it happened. It was disingenuous, yes, as Pete was very careful to state that he was NOT comparing the two, but she was hardly the only one to state this, and some were far more nasty about it.

In primary season the candidates deliberately paint what their opponents say in the worst light. It happens every time. Kamala isn't talking about Pete now, and really has no reason to, at least until such time as an administration position for him is announced.

This is a feeble attempt at a purity test, and an attempt to push people away from voting for Biden/Harris.

Not voting for this bitch! Hate the homophobia that she and her supporters partake in and represent.

Not to mention the guy shes running with has one of the most anti gay records in congressional history.

Hideous, fat Division Troll and her ugly, cunty mom are trying too hard these days.

Well, then I say FUCK THEM. And hope they gag and die soon.

Pete needs to get a job and prove he has helped solve real issues. Saving an old automobile warehouse is not enough. South Bend is a fuckin mess.

R73, He should lock up more blacks and send parents to jail for their kids truancy.

Not to mention that Kamala Harris is one of the biggest proponents of the gay community and has been for at least over a decade. She is likely a bigger fan of Mayor Pete than most of the other primary candidates (and a FAR bigger fan than any GOP scumbags). So again - FF, BLOCK and FUCK OFF OP troll.

Thanks, OP. After becoming aware of this, I've decided to not vote this year. It's not like Trump will appoint judges/justices with life tenure that will vote on gay rights.. I just don't see the point anymore.

I love Kamala!

It really is insensitive for a heterosexual woman to police what a gay man can say and what kind of analogies we can draw regarding our own history.

I don’t care.

Then you're a homophobe, OP.

R79, Then keep scrolling. This thread is for folks that dont like politicians using homophobia for political gain.

Pete was way ahead of the curve on pot legalization.

[quote]FUCK her. And I do mean FUCK her. She drilled her worn out puss to get to where she is.

Stop! No more mean comments about LadyG.

I don't get the gay men on here calling the OP a troll because he is upset that Kamala said something quite insensitive about the gay experience. Don't get me wrong, I am voting for Biden, I hate Trump and Pence and I object to calling her names or racism but I also object to a non-gay person somehow saying my struggle is not "as good" as her struggle. C'mon, a beautiful heterosexual, highly educated, light skinned woman from a privileged background cannot honestly sit there and say she knows the struggle of poorer African-Americans AND then come with some preachy comparison to mine.

R84, you are easily distracted dude

This has me so riled up I almost spilled Postum on my weekend caftan.

R84 - maybe I misunderstood but I just don't like people, and especially women with privilege, claiming to understand the gay experience. I love to read about and try my best to understand the African-American experience and I know I I can't because I am a gay white man. I want the same from my elected officials. And yes, I will be voting for her and Biden because a misstep is much less disgusting than what the religious right does. If I am not getting it, call me stupid, but don't claim to know my experience.

R7 Biden an homophobe? The same Biden that was in favour of gay marriage before Obama is an homophobe? good one

Precisely bro

R88, Yeah being a month ahead of Obama on gay marriage excuses decades of homophobia on his congressional record.

[quote]I don't get the gay men on here calling the OP a troll because he is upset that Kamala said something quite insensitive about the gay experience.

Pete's #1 supporter and black guy here. I'm not saying that my thinking is correct, but this is how I see it. White gay men have the cloak of whiteness to insulate them from a lot of shit. Now, our more flamboyant white compadres may not enjoy that benefit, but your average everyday white gay isn't experiencing discrimination on the same level as a visible minority.

Pete, whom I adore, can walk though life and never have to deal with certain aspects of being an other until he makes it known that he's an other. And I am not saying that the types of discrimination that all gays face isn't awful, but the type of discrimination that comes just from being a different color can be soul crushing.

If you’re gay and even considering thinking of voting for her and Biden, Don’t. They’re going to push for the transing of gay kids. Don’t fall for heir BS!

All discrimination in any form shares similarities in the reasons for the discrimination, the way in which it manifests itself, and how it impacts the targets of that discrimination.

For instance, discrimination against women is the same in all those aspects all over the world. It makes no difference if it is in a white, black, Asian or whatever dominated or majority society, culture or country.

Having said that there are also different aspects to discrimination and its effects depending on the form of discrimination.

Acknowledging similarities and differences should never be used as a weapon. Discussions of those similarities and differences should never be censored.

A 268-day article? You can do better then that, Vlad.

My cross is bigger than your cross!

[quote] If you’re gay and even considering thinking of voting for her and Biden, Don’t. They’re going to push for the transing of gay kids. Don’t fall for heir BS!

Not if the truth comes out. When sane people learn of what transing kids really does to them and the reasons why this has been kept hidden they usually wake up and oppose it. That's why you cannot speak too often or loudly enough about this very recent phenomenon of transing kids and trying to lower the age for sexually related decisions.

The UK is beginning to wake up and some action is being taken to reverse or stop it.

Hey, teachers, leave those kids alone!!

All the people who threws dirt on gays during the primary will win if Kamala and Biden win the elction I was going to vote for her and Joe until I started look online and this article as one of the first things i saw. All these people care about is trannys anyways' gays are just useful idiots for them.

I had forgotten how kamala's (and then Warren's) media sycophants threw the race card around to to destroy the first opnely gay candidate.

R91, I'm from the UK so don't really understand the situation in the US. From what you say it sounds like black people in the US are constantly discriminated against every single day and their lives are a huge struggle because of racism. Is this true or is it exaggeration?

[R96] I know you watched the Biden townhall. He reiterated his support for trans.

I'm around Pete's age and I used to think the same thing. I thought because both gays and blacks have known what it is like to be treated like absolute shit, that there was a sort of minorities club. While our experiences are very different, that they were also quite similar. I don't agree with Kamala's statements and I believe people like AOC and her squad feel similarly. I realized this when Prop * passed, voted in primarily by blacks. Jesse Jackson telling us we didn't do enough to educate the black community and churches. Fuck that. It's going to be all about minorities and POC. Fuck that "cloak of whiteness" that another poster referenced - that statement is a huge a problem for me. That cloak didn't save gay men from dying of AIDS in the 80's or get them the help that they needed. It didn't save kids like Matthew Shephard or the countless gay youth that have killed themselves in middle school due to extreme bullying or been kicked out of there homes with no places to go.

Pete was in the top 2 and was even leading to a point in the primaries, but was not even given a shot in SC because of the homophobia and black resistance. If Pete had told Kamala to stop playing the race card with he whole "that little girl was me trope", when she grew up more privileged than he, all hell would have broke loose.

To quote Kevin Hart but substituting black for gay: "I have nothing against black people, but I am not an ally." Also, every now and again, LGBT rights will get trotted out in talking points in Biden/Harris campaign when convenient like with the Barrett nomination, but this election is all about blacks and brown minorities. Actually the whole election is really centered around black people period. We had to have a black woman as VP, must get the black vote, mustn't discourage the looting and rioting. They get a pass. That doesn't benefit me in any way. LGBTQ is often not mentioned in the dialogue. We are simply just votes, but neither party gaf about gay men.