Meghan Markle looks like Octomom and is complaining about toxicity in the media

Markle is a pain in the arse. She's like the Kardashians...famous for being famous and doing nothing.

I hate you Meghan Markle fraus but she does look like Octomom.

Her hair is way too long. She needs a (gay) hairstylist to help her.

She's a modern-day version of those lecherous, predatory women that terrorized Michael Douglas back in the 80s and 90s.

How long until she pins a halo to her head ?

Insufferable, tiresome, cunt. How long is she going to milk the toxic bullshit?

Yes!! Octomom

We see right through you Meghan.

Right. Through. You.

Two insane nutters arrested for cyberstalking sugars. And it's only just begun. One journalist discovered on a hate thread.

What laws did they allegedly violate?

What the fuck is a "sugar"?

I'm not jive to your hep slang terms.

Holy crap you're right. Now I can't unsee it Damn you OP!

Despite having expensive stylists, she always looks crappy because she has no taste or style.

Gross cunt

She's complaining about toxicity in media, he's pontificating about kindness online....and meanwhile they actually called one of their fans to thank it for fundraising.

Trouble is, the fan happens to be one of the more vile presences on twitter, and is always threatening people and calling the Queen, Kate and Will various disgusting names, starting horrible rumours about them, etc etc. The posts are so bad that the stan is now claiming that her account was hacked and that it wasn't her, although she's been the 'head Sussex stan' for years now and Omid Scobie even had her on his podcast to talk about her super stanning. Name is Dani Tin or something.

Klan Granny thread. You crazies will be headed for jail soon.

For what? @R16

These threads are always a good indicator of who to block.

r16 is upset at being outed in the article at r15

1) Morticia Addams wig

2) Octomom resemblance

3) caterpillar lips

4) vocal fry

5) braindead

OMG ! Shut the fuck up. People are dying from Covid, racist police and being poor. Our presidential election is in jeopardy and she's doing this

They are that fucking self involved that they only think of themselves

Welcome to America, bitch!

What an annoying cunt. I heard 43 seconds of her speech and I still can’t tell you what she was bloviating about. Her whole look is stuck in the early 2000s, and it looks pathetic. She just doesn’t know when to stop.

Good lord, Meghan looks like a caricature - the Morticia Addams hair has become utterly ridiculous, and what did she to her lips?! She had perfectly nice lips - it's like she's trying to outdo Kim Kardashian.

No wonder Meghan belongs there - it's all about surface and show, and never mind about substance.

As for her bullshit about the toxicity of the media - she just published a book (let us face it, it IS her book) reeking with hate and jealousy of her husband's family, especially his higher ranking older brother and his wife, threw a working-class Scouse and one of the Queen's best friends under the bus to excuse Meghan's high-handed expectation of being able to order the peasants about on demand, and containing outright lies about what the media did and didn't say.

She is borderline delusional, and everything about her - the hair, the newly filled out lips, the house, the constant bloviating about social issues that she herself and her rabid stans contribute to - it all reeks of someone who is "on" from the moment she wakes up to the moment she falls asleep.

There isn't an authentic, natural bone in her body, and it shows. It is a testament to how stupid most people are that any attention is paid to her at all. And if she hadn't shoe-horned herself into the "toxic" environs of the British royal family, no one would be paying attention to her now.

You can see the irony, lies, and hypocrisy from outer space.

Harry has always been really tacky.

He’s just not cut from the same cloth as the rest of his family.

Maybe the rumors are true.

We don't care about them. Stop creating posts about them. Super boring.

Every time she speaks you realize how stupid he must be. And she does look like Octomom. Good choice, moron,

If only she'd stuck with Jessica Mulroney. She could have styled her into a hot, blow up sex doll kind of Octomom.

R26 - If they're so boring, why do so many of them fill up with hundreds of posts?

And if they bore YOU, what are you doing here?

Some of us are bored witless by the endless Richard Madden & Froylan threads, the Italians Aren't White threads, the Sam Heughan threads, the dozens of ice-skating threads . . .

You don't like the thread, ignore it and move on.

Meghan, just be very quiet and stay out of all media. You can’t seek out publicity and limit it to only good stuff. Just like you can’t buy stocks but only accept the ones that go up.

Gutter snipe.

When do you think her collapse will be complete? I give it 6 more months

WOW... This hypocritical cunt was marketizing herself around back then for a Brit husband!!! So gross and vile.

The royal couple met on a blind date in London in 2016 during an extended visit Meghan was taking, packed full of meetings, both business and pleasure. However, just days before she was supposed to be seeing Harry, Meghan spotted her crush while she was at the Wimbledon tennis tournament. ‘Finding Freedom’ by Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand exposed how Meghan used to fancy British actor Dominic Cooper, best known for his roles in Preacher, Mamma Mia! and as Howard Stark in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Meghan’s speeches lack coherent thoughts and ideas. The speeches are nothing but a collection of trite buzz words that people use when they want to fake being capable or intelligent. There are no logical platforms from which interesting views and ideas spring forth. Instead, the underlying basis for her speeches is self-promotion. I, myself, and me feature prominently as reasons why she feels aggrieved enough to lend her valuable voice to help us, the unwashed and ignorant masses. Now she gets to play Plastic octo-mother Terrsa from atop her mansion amongst white, rich 1%. The smugness dripping with faux concern and sincerity.

Meghan's speeches are hashtaggy wordsalad .

Lover her or hate her, she does look less dead eyed than back in the UK. A little rehab I think

Why does Meghan straighten her hair?

It’s official. Meghan’s stans, #SussexSquad, are vile and BSC in attacking people accusing them of racism without basis. This is an article from McLeans, not a tabloid.

What was Harry saying the other day?

R38 - Contrary to our very own dear KGT, very possibly a/k/a Dani Trin, it is the Sussex Squad threatening violence, retribution, judicial pursuit, etc., in their rabid obsession with Meghan Markle. In fact, if you visit LSA's Meghan Markle: Unpopular Opinions Part 2, you'll find that they are the ones outing the persecution the SS (and how apt an insignia, eh?) and putting up posts of the toxic hate speech they direct to everyone in the BRF, the names they call Kate and William (you'll recognise our own KGY's voice and lingo immediately), their threats, and their psychopathic worship of Meghan Markle.

It isn't posters on LSA or DL who are going to be in trouble soon. If any net is "closing in", it's the exposure, finally, of the organised terrorism the Sussex Squad is guilty of, and thinks itself entitled to enact, because Meghan Markle's Mum is black.

The irony of their rabid defence of a "black woman" who isn't, really, as she doesn't see herself as black, has done all she could to turn into a rich white privileged woman, complete with straightened hair, surgically narrowed nose, two white husbands, and almost all-white besties, now living by choice in one of the least diverse, whitest communities to be found anywhere, is staggering.

If you've been wondering how the fuck someone as moronic as Trump could get into the White House, wonder no more. The pathological virulence of the Sussex Squad's worship of a woman who, in reality, is everything they accuse others of being - unearned privilege, reverse racism in her rejection of black heritage, preference for all things white, hypocrisy, double dealing, materialism, narcissism = tells you everything you need to know.

It's the capacity for denial and compartmenalisation of the human mind. The Sussex Squad and its self-chosen mission to destroy anyone who doesn't think Meghan Markle God's gift to humanity, including if necessary through physical annihilation, are Exhibit A.

Good on LSA for exposing them. LSA has also put up the articles exposing the purchase of Russian bots by Meghan's PR.

If our KGT isn't named Dani, she is likely named Natasha.

The lie told by the KGT/ Dani Trin that the disgusting posts she made were actually made by others who have a password to her twitter feed makes no sense.

The lunatic Megstans always claim they are a huge group and that the people who criticise Meghan are the outliers (who will all be arrested soon -LOL), so you're telling me that those same stans would consolidate under one twitter ID that looks like a single person? No way - they'd sooner set up multiple accounts in an attempt to bulk up the visible stan numbers.

It's also really telling that Dani Trin is denying she made those comments. The screenshots shown in the Sun are pretty tame by Sussex Squad standards (usually they post FAR more disgusting stuff and issue threats regularly), and even these tame comments are ones that Dani has shown she KNOWS are wrong.

The Stans are obviously aware that they are behaving disgustingly, but they justify it by their racist belief that Meghan's 1/3 black skin colour makes it all alright - until they're caught, that is.

But for Harry and Meghan to be in touch with their leader Dani - who not was called on the phone by them but has been in regular contact with Scobie, even going on his podcast. The Harkles clearly approve of what Dani and her ilk are putting up on social media, but then have the gall to criticise people for rudeness on social media? They clearly only mean people who speak against them. Their hypocrisy, as in all things, is jaw-dropping.

I'm calling it now. She'll be up the duff again soon, and then everyone who criticises her will be accused of harassing a pregnant woman.

Yes. And this time she *will* use a surrogate, since she definitely does not want to put her body through that again, and because she's away from the BRF so she doesn't need to do it in the straightforward way that they seem to insist upon.

Here's the head Sussex Squad troll on Omid Scobie's podcast a few months ago. Their discussion indicates she was in regular contact with the Sussex's staff while she was posting disgusting stuff about the rest of the BRF.

This will probably go like that nutter who plagued Princess Mary of Denmark years ago. The troll eventually repented (and gave up) because she was identified and because, when called on her antics she knew she'd been behaving improperly all along. It sounds like this troll knows it too. And certainly if the tabloids are onto her, she's fucked. If she thinks for a minute the Daily Mail isn't working to trump the card the Sun played, she is in for a rude awakening to accompany the turning over of her rock. Maybe even the mainstream publications. With cyberbullying being such a thing, and royalty always selling newspapers, there's a basis. And even if a few of them won't give up the fight, if they become the story, much of their support will melt away out of embarrassment and fear of scrutiny. There's always a hard core centre and then a gang around them that give it mass... until the going gets tough.

The fierceness and intensity of their fixation (and the lengths they go to in service of it) reminds of that small band of ghouls who haunted the McCanns years ago. In the end they too became tabloid targets and one committed suicide after being exposed, which suggests she had other difficulties (that drove the behaviour?) Anyway, this just entered a weird new phase. They better be up for it because the tide has turned if the tabs are writing about them.

Here is a short clip in which the KGT/Dani Trin troll tells Omid Scobie that Meghan's staff called the troll up(!) to ask her what she was planning on doing for Meghan's birthday. She says she wasn't intending to do anything until they called to suggest it, and this is how the troll started the fundraising campaign, which the staff then used for Meghan's PR.

So, this vicious troll was not only on Meghan's radar, she was on her staff's callsheet. Meghan and Harry cannot pretend that the Harkles don't hate the Queen and the Cambridges when this level of cooperative involvement with an internet troll who spent every waking moment disparaging the Queen and the BRF.

Also interesting to note that Meghan can't even rely on her psycho trolls to do PR things for her without suggesting it herself.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Apparently the so-called #SussexSquad -Meghan's vile only fans - have made a PDF illustrating "Sussex Core Values", mostly political causes and fridge magnet philosophy, and asking "How can we uphold Sussex values?"

I nearly pissed myself laughing at this. When they're not wishing death on the Queen and the Cambridge family, this is the delusional shit they get up to.

So fucking insane.

From R47's link -

Sparkle and Ivanka!!! Ivanka was one of her "female idols".

[quote]In his largely adoring 2018 biography of Meghan, Andrew Morton revealed that after launching Tig in 2013, Meghan got in touch with Ivanka Trump, who was 'one of her female idols'.

[quote] Meghan was 'thrilled when she accepted her invitation to meet for drinks and dinner the next time Meghan was in New York'.

[quote]And so began a bout of vigorous back-scratching. 'Don't get me started on her jewellery collection: the late-night 'window shopping' I have done on my computer, snuggled up in bed with a glass of wine, staring longingly at her beautiful designs,' wrote Meghan of Ivanka.

[quote]'When we have drinks, I will make sure I order whatever she does – because this woman seems to have the formula for success and happiness down pat.'

[quote]The authors of Finding Freedom conveniently airbrush Ivanka from the record, perhaps fearful that the Trump formula for success and happiness might jar against Harry and Meghan's new mission to 'build a humanitarian legacy that will make a profound difference in the world'.

So from that Twitter link, the Mirror is now on the scent.

Difficult questions coming for both the have nots and the haves.

This will be fun.

The Sussex Squad has been an under reported element to this story, even they are infamous across the internet for how vile and racist they are.

It's too delicious that after preaching about kindness online, the Harkles are caught red-handed actively contacting and encouraging their evil flying monkey squad. That move has them implicitly approving all the death threats, all the wishes for the Queen and Cambridges to die so Meghan can be queen, all the foul disgusting things they say about members of the BRF, including the kids, the nonstop bullying and vitriol coming from the Sussex Squad. The hypocrisy of the Harkles is in itself the Gift that Keeps on Giving.

[quote] so Meghan can be queen

Based on so far, Meghan Markle would be to that role what Donald Trump has been to the presidency.

Meghan Markle would lunch with Medea if she thought it would get her somewhere.

The Sussexes are going to be shocked how quickly any earned income dries up. Meghan knows better but she has lost her marbles.

Did she ever lunch with Madea to thank her? I bet not.

The key word in all of R24 ‘s well-written rant is “borderline”.

R42 - Agree. The Next Thing is the Second Baby. She'll be 40 next August, they've got the home, the pandemic restraints means they can't do as much as they'd like PR-wise, she supposes it will get generate comfy twittery PR, and who knows, even Mr Justice Warby will fall for it. . .

and, anyway, now it's Harry who needs the anchor baby.

No brainer.

Yeah she’s gotta drop an American crotch fruit now.

How is Harry able to live (and work) in the US? I assume he’s on a B1/B2 tourist visa. And USCIS has basically shut down recently. It took years to get a spousal green card before Corona. Good luck!

Just to add too, it’s illegal to come to the US as a tourist with the intention of staying indefinitely so legally he can not adjust status because he came here with the intent to stay.

It's never been announced what kind of visa/status Harry has. There have been suggestions that he has a diplomatic passport.

R61 then he needs to hold a UK diplomatic position which he ran away from. You can’t have it both ways.

The problem with a diplomatic visa for Harry is that if he is still representing the Queen, he cannot go political, and he's already crossed that line several times, most notably with his deservedly jeered at Commonwealth interview.

He can retain his title, but not any formal designation of representing the Queen or the BRF whilst going full-on political. The Queen is Britain's Head of State. He's already treading a fine line that many think has already made it clear that he needs to resign his titles and style of HRH. He is, in fact, already having his cake and eating it, too.

Meghan is an American citizen. Harry is not. But even so, Meghan also remains a member of the BRF, but is obviously headed out the political "exit" door.

I suspect that this increasingly political stance of the couple will end up being the real issue for the Queen in allowing them to retain or resign their titles. Or rather, Harry doing so. Meghan has no power in this, the title isn't hers except as a courtesy: the title is Harry's, as is the HRH.

I wonder if the pair already know that they've been told that heir desire to go political is going to cost them their titles, and so are doing it while they can with the titles. After all, it would be the perfect solution for all concerned.

Harry is now only sixth in line, but he's still the next Sovereign's son. Charles cannot afford to have a son with an HRH and ducal title going political and America. The two things are totally incompatible. Sooner or later, either the Harkle's dial their political voice back, or they do the decent thing and announce that they are fully integrating themselves in their new-found "free" environment and believe that their titles are incompatible with their new lives and the future they envision for themselves.

If they don't, of course, they leave the Queen in the position of playing the Mean Spirited Gran again - the UK populace will get it, but not the Americans, because American's haven't much of a clue about what a constitutional monarchy is and how it has to function, and the importance of its political neutrality in public.

^*Harkles and Americans (not Harkle's and American's)

Difficult afternoon with the commas.

R63 and others, do you think they became more political when they weren’t getting the response they wanted from the BRF.

Would they have been content to lecture about human rights and promoting girl power but then they didn’t like how they treated in the media. They felt unsupported by the family so they lashed out by getting political?

Somebody suggested he's here on that unique talent visa... wrong name but you know what I mean.

I know, I know, but didn't our esteemed Varist Letty get in on one of those? I don't think it is a hard bar. Probably invented so the great and the good can take care of their friends from other lands.

^^^Good god, I’m oh dearing myself. I shouldn’t be typing in my iPhone when I’m tired. I tried to edit.

The first statement above should end with a ‘?’ And the second sentence should read ‘how they were treated’

I'd love to see polling on these two, to understand how the American public feels about them. I am pretty sure the majority would be a big yawn. Through bad luck and worse judgment they haven't been able to achieve anything except spending money. They are irrelevant. Remember reading a few weeks back some in the entertainment industry were worried they weren't marketable given... everything. They're really irrelevant if they're worthless. He can always go back to a life he knows and understands and earn affection again with a nice second wife, back to Invictus and the royal routine. She's never going back and wouldn't if she could, would be my guess.

R66 Do you need to be sponsored by a prospective employer for that visa?

R69 I don’t think so but it’s very difficult to obtain. Melanoma came over on a tourist visa and was working illegally until she married Dump and he must’ve sponsored her spousal visa. USCIS has pretty much shut down at the moment so I don’t see them processing any visa for Harry in a rush. But who knows...

R65 - How they "felt" about the response of the BRF begs the question of their expectations, which Harry, at least, should have been not only been well aware of, but conveyed to his bride to be.

Meghan Markle was given access to advisors, just as Diana was, and just as Diana did, rejected them. Just ask Lady Susan Hussey how well Diana responded to efforts to integrate her into the fabric that holds the BRF together with the UK government. It keeps escaping the notice of others, especially Americans, that the UK government makes full use of the BRF - but it can't if the BRF goes political - there's a point to Parliament and a point to Buckingham Palace, but they only play well together if each knows his lane and stays in it.

If they "expected" to be allowed by an institution whose very existence depends upon that observance of lanes, especially amongst those members high up on the public payroll to do as they liked, to be protected even from stories that were true (let us face it, Tiaragate occurred before the wedding), then they were either delusional or deliberately already carving out the victim narrative for themselves.

It still amounts to wanting to have one's cake and eat it, too.

Harry should have known better, but even that expectation seemed too much for him. It has to be remembered that this is a great-grant grandson of George V, so like the last Tsar of Russia that he could have passed as his twin brother, who said he didn't know he was related to the Romanovs.

The BRF is not a bed of roses - well, it is in some respects, but publicly it really is a hot kitchen. Either you can take it or you can't. There is really little the BRF can do to change that.

Both of them were either completely dishonest with the Queen and the UK public, or completely delusional about the landscape they inhabited.

^*great-great (not grant-great)

He may be here on the diplomatic until it’s contested and then he’ll shift. If he were smarter , he’d go back to the U.K. every once in a while.

R71 Their expectations were unrealistic. She made demands and he jumped to her side without considering.

I guess what I mean is...was this political turn unplanned but done out of anger?

R69, no idea. Another factor is his individual resources. He is no threat to the state in terms of public funds (yet, LOL. His days as bum on the street corner could be coming...) If you can demonstrate you are self sufficient that's a factor in visas outside tourist. As I recall their filings have made reference to entertainment production so is entirely possible between his money and the movies a case was made for granting. Even for assholes in the pampered class, it's pretty easy for them to get most of what they want.

Their getting political is a mistake on several levels:

First, it alienates them further from the family, who need to remain neutral as a prerequisite to their entire point of existence. Since they still rely on the family financially, this is a stupid move on their part.

Second, it is ludicrous to be lectured on 'equality' by two people who refuse to relinquish their hereditary titles. Titles are the ultimate in hierarchy and inequality. If they truly believe in equality, then the first thing they would do would be to give up their titles, as Labour politician Tony Benn (formerly Viscount Stansgate) did when he entered left-wing politics.

Third: It paints them into a corner. If they are activists in terms of colour, then ideally they should hire people of colour for their executive positions and white people to be their gardeners. But you know that by and large, it is the other way around and will stay that way for financial reasons. Another example, if they go to a sporting event and everyone is kneeling during the national anthem, Harry kneeling too will have very negative diplomatic ramifications - but of course he has already set himself up in such a way that now he will *have* to kneel, no matter what the UK Ambassador the US and the Queen will have to deal with as a result.

It's just a mess. They should have stuck to Animal conservation, which is a charitable endeavour that is both useful and a-political, and which everyone can get behind. Branching off into race, feminism, and other equality issues - while still titled - is so obviously setting them up for stepping on multiple social and cultural landmines.

I'm sure they've been told by UK advisers that it makes them look like completely hypocritical, bumbling fools. It's a shame they are too stupid and thirsty to listen to that advice.

More ambition than brains, but that has been evident for a long time.

They’re arrogant too.

Visits back to the UK are likely, as Travelyst's HQ is in London.

So is Meghan's one high prestige "royal" patronage, the National Theatre.

That last is a problem: in a royal patronage (that is, one gifted by the Queen), the patron represents the Queen in activities associated with that entity. You can't do that if you've gone political.

The National Theatre was Meghan's only really high profile royal patronage. In February 2020, after the Harkles exit announcement, Rufus Norris made a statement that "nothing had changed" and the Duchess remained "deeply engaged" and "substantive projects" were in the works.

But that was before their endgame in California became clear, before Meghan lost the right to use HRH publicly, and before the pandemic. I find it hard to believe Meghan c continue to present herself as royal patron of the NT, given her now deep unpopularity in Britain and the lost HRH - the NT would find her more of a controversial liability than an asset.

A check of the "Who's Who" section of the NT, where you see the Board and the important "names", shows not a single mention of Meghan. The only two mentions are the original announcement of her appointment as patron by the Queen, and Norris's February 2020 statement.

Effectively, without the Queen having to announce removal of Meghan as a patron, that patronage has simply died a natural death of attrition.

So, visits to the UK will likely involve engagement with Travelyst, Sentebale, and the Invictus Games on Harry's part, and perhaps Meghan and her Hub Kitchen group and a couple of visits to schools. I wonder if she'll even be that interested any longer. Remember, the loss of Sussex Royal and HRH didn't occur until April, after they'd left the country.

The military stuff is gone for Harry, as well. So I think any visits to the UK will be carefully handled as both visible but quiet.

Are we taking wagers that they will show up for Remembrance Day, complete with poppies?

R80 How can she face them with all of this going on? That would be so awkward for all.

That’s less than 2 and a half months away, right? That would take a lot of chutzpah.

I don't think Meghan cares about getting political anymore.

She nothing but political, and clearly doesn't want to live as privately as she previously claimed, as that instagram post proves, r82

I don't think she's brave enough to back to the UK. At worst she might get hissed, but she's afraid of it. She knows what she's done. Besides the UK has nothing she wants. Anymore.

They'll both get booed if they return. And they must kow it, because Private Eye mentioned that there was a rumour has it that the London police designated an unusually wide security area at the Commonwealth ceremony, keeping the public unusually far away from the entrance, because the courtiers wanted to ensure that if there was booing it wouldn't be picked up by the cameras. I don't know if there was in fact any booing, but I'm certain that now, there would be.

I'd quite like to see Prince Edward upstage the Sussexes by finally coming out as gay

Except he's not gay, but we'll allow you your delusions...

Edward had some early bumps in the road, with his foray into documentary making, but he got past that and now he's turned out to be a valuable member of the BRF. And his wife, who also had problems at the start with her PR company, is now very respected and liked. They just quietly get on with small openings, cutting ribbons and other boring stuff, are always cheery and never complain. They're admired because they just unobtrusively get on with doing their jobs with zero fanfare.

Who kneels for the national anthem, r77?

Nowadays, nearly every sports star in America, r89

Courtesy by guests who stand for a host country's anthems is routine. No one kneels for anthems unless they're doing the trendy "taking a knee bullshit".

As an American citizen, Meghan has a perfect right to participate in activities connected to national elections in her home country.

What she doesn't have a right to do is expect to retain the perks of someone representing a foreign government and its Head of State whilst doing so.

It's the old "lane" business again.

The Harkles want to occupy two lanes simultaneously. And just as on the road, it's a bad idea because it leads to wrecks.

She’s great, the US needs all the revenue it can get to stay afloat. And who better to fund us than the BRF?

How much she will bring to the California tourism/entertainment industry? $2 billion?

R93 she’s front page news nonstop. She should work with the DM instead of suing but maybe she is and the lawsuits are a ruse.

In her video of August 19th, Lady C describes Meghan's new hair as making her look like Morticia Adams and comments that "she's done something to her face"..

Also replies to a question about the revised explanation of Tiaragate in the FF book.

I think she's a cunt. She fell for prince of simpler mind than she has. She wanted all that fairy take stuff and got it and immediately was ungracious about a lot of that. If she really loved harry, and he loved her, they should have found in their love a way to make a really nice life within the royal family and with their duties. They could have lived an entire life with no financial concerns, in some of the most luxurious estates in the world, and have had connections to anyone who could help them with projects they might like to pursue. Now, they are just spinning straight down the shitter. The future looks bleak for these two. The self-sabotage of it all is mind boggling. They are a perfect storm of self sabotage.

I don't think it's a revision. I believe there were two tiaragates. The first reported by Charles' authorized biographer in his Charles at 70 book about the tiara with emeralds and now this.

The Spectator (US edition) has a piece up called "Meghan Markle, Voting Rights Activist", which contains these priceless bits:

" . . . . Now, after very publicly withdrawing from one Western democracy, Meghan is very publicly butting back into another. In her interview with the 19th, the Duchess mentioned that her husband has never been able to vote, citing it as an example of why no one should ever take the right to vote for granted. If a PR consultant devised that talking point, they should probably be fired. In the US, voter disenfranchisement remains an enormous problem, from draconian state measures that strip felons who have served their time of the right to vote for life, to misinformation campaigns that attempt to convince certain blocs of voters to stay home. The Duchess of Sussex’s husband can’t vote because he was born into money, castles, corgis, and the overwhelming burden of showing up at a lot of charity balls. There is zero comparison.

. . . . Harry and Meghan’s refusal to fully cut their ties to the royal family — a fundamentally undemocratic institution — means that the Duchess of Sussex encouraging American women to vote seems to come with an elephant in the room. Or, in her case, a corgi in the room. If you’re going to lecture the former colonies on how they should vote, maybe at least start by dropping the imperial title. Being committed to democracy and voting rights ought to be more than just a personal branding ploy."

AMEN, r98

From the Harry Markle blog:

[quote] Just before I was about to hit ‘publish’ it was announced that MM will make another surprise appearance at another summit, the ‘When all Women Vote’ couch party on 20 August, 2020, which is tomorrow. Yes, we all know she wanted privacy, but it seems MM has been very busy ‘reaching out’ to appear wherever she can, and she’s milking that title bone dry still

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't members of the BRF supposed to stay neutral when it comes to politics? ...

There were TWO Tiaragates? This is the War and Peace of tiara-related anecdotes.

R101 - Fortunately, you can access the crib notes version right here on DL.

Now the Losers are sucking up the queen again. Meghan Says she wants to continue her legacy.

Meghan may have some credibility issues to work through.

They spit on the Queen and her family, mixed up the Commonwealth with the British Empire and phoned people who want key members of the Royal Family dead. They should not be allowed anywhere near the Queen's Commonwealth Trust.

Strip them of all royal patronages and any titles you can, Queenie. They are not on your side.

The way they are carrying on (the choices they are making to realize their truth, for the delicate) suggests to me that when there's that review in a year, there will be a further realignment of their position on the org chart.

They were so disrespectful to the Queen that they announced their intentions to carve out a "progressive new role" in the BRF without even notifying her first, putting her in a very awkward position. Now they're banging on about wanting to continue her legacy.

If I were HM, then when Harry phoned me to demand Meghan get access to her chosen tiara, I would have said, "I'll send you a fiver, love, I hear there's a sale on at Claire's."

r47's Daily Mail book review makes Meghan seem extremely materialistic and status-obsessed. Not a good image.

Really! That's shocking! Who would have imagined!

Another hypocritical stunt from sMEG!

GOING DUCH Royal fans criticise Meghan Markle for using Sussex title during US political campaign with Michelle Obama

MEGHAN Markle is appearing in Michelle Obama’s virtual summit tonight being held to encourage voting participation.

Her presence at the When All Vote event has been introduced as “Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex” - and the use of her title in a political capacity appears to have upset a few royal fans.

^ The poster for the Disney elephant documentary said "Narrated by Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex" as well.

Meghan's narration was awful in that Disney documentary, non-stop upspeak.

Cunt is so unloved. hahahahahahaha

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are reportedly already facing some teething troubles after just six weeks living in their new California home, with trusted staff members said to be mocking the Duchess’ mixed accent in private.

The Express is reporting that new members of staff employed to work for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex at their just-purchased sprawling Santa Barbara estate “do impressions” of Meghan’s Britishisms — likely the result of her two years spent living in the U.K. with husband Harry.

“Meghan was the all-American girl before she met Harry, but since living in the UK she’s adopted certain phrases,” a source told The Sun.

The sudden "continue her legacy" in my view is a direct response to how bad they came off looking by throwing the Queen's dresser and friend under the bus.

It's also an attempt at walking back what jackasses they made of themselves in their previous Commonwealth "interviews" with "young Commonwealth leaders" when they confused with the long gone Empire the modern Commonwealth that came into existence at the end of her father's and the beginning of the Queen's reign.

They also know full well that they are being viewed as having been disrespectful, not to say contemptuous of Britain's Head of State who is still Harry's Sovereign and Commander in Chief.

This is PR Damage Control and won't fool anyone, least of all HM.

I wonder if the BRF's publicly silent reaction to the drivel that FF gushed was somewhat less silent behind the scenes, and Harry and Meghan got some politely murmured warnings about the risk to their titles of "politicisation" and reminders that those titles were still only theirs through the Queen's continued good will - not to mention several recent UK polls that clearly showed the public thought they should be stripped of those titles.

All of which is to say, the Kelly fracas may have been the last straw for the Queen, who made it every so elegantly known to the couple.

And suddenly, here they are, a day after their mouthpiece, Scooby Doo, started talking about how they planned to "continue their charity work in the UK, including their royal patronages", talking about "continuing the Queen's legacy" . . .

Why, it's almost as if they woke up and realised that they still had something to lose!

I'll just bet Meghan does want to continue the Queen's legacy - the legacy being "Duchess of Sussex" for Meghan for the rest of her life, and her son keeping the title he actually does have, Earl Dumbarton, and able to succeed to his father's title, Duke of Sussex, and the HRH that goes with it.

Suddenly, the Ghost of Letters Patent Future must have floated into Meg's dreams.

Can you credit it?! They flee the country as it's hit with one of the worst crises in recent years, living in luxury a continent away, from which distance they authorise a concerted attack on the country's royal family and future Sovereigns, drop leaks about how happy Meghan is to be "home" and making it clear how much she hates Britain and how toxic she found the "royal" environment . . . .

and suddenly she's talking about continuing her "charity work" in that very country.

You couldn't make it up.

The Queen and the BRF have a major problem here: they've left the line between between the BRF and the Harkles too murky. It can't go on like this. The BRF, the monarchy, if it wants to save itself, has to clarify those lines one way or the other.

Harry and Meghan can't take up their old life as senior working royals again. They burned too many bridges. The Cambridges would probably revolt - does anyone see Kate and Meghan ever sharing a room again except at the Queen's funeral?!

Meghan can't pretend that the UK desperately needs her little bits of charity grandstanding, or that the BRF needs her "glamour". They need her like they need piles.

Her mouthings are absurd in light of how she's behaved.

No one wants her back.

The Queen has to know who Meghan really is now: the scorpion on the back of the turtle in the fable.

If HM doesn't clarify these lines the monarchy deserves to drown.

I put a lot of stock into the review in a year's time.

We've seen now it takes the RF a long time to move but when they do, watch your head if they move against you.

Still the sense I get is one of the rules is that revenge (or reaction) is a dish best served cold. So by the year mark they will have made an assessment about the longevity of the marriage. I think there's no coming back them as a couple... quite apart from anything else they missed the disaster of the year and the Cambridges owned it. The question will be what to do about Harry. If they wager he'll be home, divorced, soon enough, they'll be gentle. If they wager he's got Stockholm syndrome I predict a further distancing of the Sussexes in terms of any official links to the Crown. They won't like her getting involved in politics one bit. They may ride it out, gambling the Democrats are coming. But it will be part of what they think about before the year in review.

Meghan referring to the Queen “your grandmother” is non-U.

Princess Margaret would get all pissy when people referred to "your sister," "your mother" or "your father" when speaking to her.

I've lost track of all the Harkle threads, but has the Klan Granny troll backed off? Nothing to do with the outing of that Sussex Squad troublemaker?

I haven't seen it since that matter surfaced.

Northwestern must be so embarrassed they ever let her in.

Granted, she had a “ retard” major, but still...

She became a glorified hooker. Congrats on your twat...I guess ?!

Well, Meghan is the living definition of Non-U, r118. She's tackiness personified.

We could never expect someone like her to know -or to have learned - that the only way for her to refer to the Queen is as "The Queen" or "Her Majesty". Out of the two of them only Harry could ever refer to the Queen as "my grandmother' and only then in very limited circumstances. He should mainly refer to her as "The Queen" or "my grandmother the Queen". He knows that. The showgirl doesn't.

Also, she "wants to carry on the Queen's legacy with the Commonwealth" while simultaneously publicly carrying on about American politics and her - and Harry's - right to vote?

Fuck off Meghan. And take Harry with you.

How can we miss her when she just won't go away?

R120, the loon is still here, crying RACIST!!! and for Muriel.

In the H&M’s new home in Santa Barbara/Montecito Part 2 thread, that is.

R120 - Oh, you will find Miss Trin alive and well on the Santa Barbara Home Part 2 thread, still uttering threats and wishing death and harm on people who don't like Meghan, supporting arson against people with opinions she doesn't like, and generally exposing her mental health issues.

The comments on Meghan's incredibly but predictably tone-deaf references to "your grandmother" and continuing Gran's legacy in their latest Zoom conference with Young Commonwealth Leaders are brutal beyond belief, even for the DM.

No matter what she does, everything Meghan touches turns to shit. She hasn't a clue - she just doesn't have a fucking clue how she looks and sounds, especially to the UK public.

If you can't stand watching the video, Harry Markle Wordpress has excerpts up. Sick-making doesn't begin to cover it.

One can only wonder what the Cambridges, Cornwalls, and the Queen must have made of her fluttery intimations about coming back to the UK and her sudden support for the Queen whose institution she labelled toxic, whose country she despised, whose future Sovereign she slung mud at, and whose taxpayers she defrauded.

In my view, this issue of whether they're in or out, still hanging on to that Commonwealth gig despite living in California, their mouthpiece talking about their continued work for their "royal" patronages, should prompt the Queen to realise that this can't go on. Does HM really think that they can waltz back in and start taking Sovereign Grant monies for work representing the Queen, which is what working for Royal Patronages means? Did Omid Scobie give a thought to what the UK public would think about the Sussexes going back on the payroll for working with royal patronages again - without being able to use their HRHs in public?

That "royal patronages" direction, and the sudden cooing over the Queen and her legacy, had to come from what must be an increasingly panicked Meghan: FF not only didn't set the record straight, but made her look like a shallow, thin-skinned, arrogant twat; money and jobs aren't rolling in (if they had to "pitch" their project all over town, it means they weren't getting lots of bites); and an angry Charles and possibly HM herself are beginning to make noises about politicisation and titles.

Meghan is an American citizen now participating in American election public activities. She has no business, therefore, "continuing the legacy" of Britain's Head of State, or holding on to "royal patronages".

It's almost as if she's reminding HM that Meghan is still a member of the BRF, still carries the title Duchess of Sussex, and technically hasn't been deprived of those patronages and title.

If the Queen hasn't figured out by now what sort Meghan is - if you cut her any slack at all she considers you an easy mark and will come back for more - then the Queen is endangering everything she's worked for over the last 65 years.

Those titles have to go, the Harkles have to be pulled up short, and the Queen has to make it clear that the door is closed. If she doesn't, she's a fool.

Yes, it's pretty obvious that the Sussexes are like children who make a big show of running away from home and then come slinking back few hours later, at dinner time.

Surprised she didn't refer to TQ as "your nan" or "your gran", or being American, "your grandma."

American here, and even I know the Queen should never be referred to as anything but Her Majesty the Queen, even when speaking with a direct relative of the Queen. I can't believe Meghan didn't know that.

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I wonder at what point William, Charles and the courtiers realised MM would be trouble? It isn't just her background; Autumn Philips is a lower middle class north American as well, and she fit in fine.

Well Charles nicknamed her "Tungsten" quite early on. It was reported as 'affectionate', and I'm sure Meghan believes that it is, but it sounds more British double-speak for communicating that he saw her as a 'hard woman' or 'pigheaded' type.

There is a rumor, can’t remember where I read it, that early on when Harry and Megs were visiting William and Kate in the getting-to-know-you stage, Megs stepped out to make a phone call or to use the loo. She had a brief moment, when one of the kids followed her, alone with Charlotte (?) and she snapped a picture on her iPhone. THAT, not the row over tights, is supposedly what caused Kate to flip her lid. This seems more plausible to me, now that I’ve witness the piss-poor judgement she has displayed in the past year.

That's reported in Lady C's book, r135. Creepy anecdote.

Apparently Victoria Beckham "feels incredibly torn between Kate and Meghan".

[quote] "Brooklyn is extremely close to his parents, and has always socialised with them and their friends. As a result, they will have a big input in the guest list, and all four – Posh, David, Nicola and Brooklyn – would love both sets of royals at the wedding.

[quote] "But Posh feels incredibly torn between Kate and Meghan, and is panicking about the prospect of them being the centre of attention instead of Nicola and Brooklyn. She dreads being dragged into a new crisis.

[quote] "This is a huge celebration and she doesn’t want any tension or bad atmosphere between high-profile guests spoiling it.”

I can only imagine one of the couples cares about being at that wedding.

Exactly, r138.

As if Kate would go to Brooklyn's wedding? She may like them very much, I have no idea, but there is no way she would ever go to that wedding.

On the other hand, the Douche and Douchess of Thirst are probably openly lobbying for an invite.

No comparison.

Can you believe that Meghan is nearly 40? She has a staggering immaturity without the sweetness of chronological youth.

[quote]Apparently Victoria Beckham "feels incredibly torn between Kate and Meghan".

Wow, humblebrag much Victoria?

I sincerely doubt that Kate & William would even consider attending.

One of my own cousins got married at Brooklyn's age. I skipped it because the odds of failure at that age is like 80%. I told my mom I'd be at his second wedding.

Getting married at that age is absurd.

Meanwhile, if MM thinks the tabs and social media were toxic before, she needs to take a peek at today's DM and see that it has, with breathtaking balls, lifted the "Finding Freebies" jeer from social media's reference to "Finding Freedom", and turned it into a huge headline (at least it was in the early edition, this afternoon it has moved down the page somewhat).

The DM in classic fashion used the naked PR op of the Harkles' visit to Baby-to-Baby visit (complete with their own photographer in case no one recognised them behind their masks), to point out that the Scobie book had buried within it proof that the Harkles themselves had been the recipients of a fair amount of "charity" (the DM elegantly referred to it as "largesse") from rich friends and contacts, both within and after they left the BRF.

And another PR charity op backfires on the Harkles.

Why they would even consider a return to Britain and the relentless determination of the UK press to pay the Harkles out for the press war the two feckless morons opened up, is beyond comprehension.

The Queen really needs to figure out the titles dilemma sooner rather than later and make it clear to the UK public that they don't have to worry about the Harkles returning as a couple and blithely taking up positions as senior members of the BRF because their money-making, Take Hollywood by Storm plans didn't work out.

The Queen doesn't have to rush anything, and won't. It took Diana's dead level instability to prompt swift and the Harkles aren't that. Generally when the royals chop off a head these days it's done with as little drama as possible. Look at Prince Andrew, he's been cut out, but cut out comparatively quietly. (Whether he should or shouldn't be pariah status a choice was made not to fuel the fire.)

At present, between Covid and the performance of the actual Royal Family, wrapping up the Sussex mess is a low priority. They make fools of themselves an ocean away but nobody blurs the line between them and the monarchy any longer. They have become the Windsors. Actually they've become less than the Windsors because the originals largely knew how to behave in exile.

Watch for six months after the year one review meeting. The Queen's go to is let's talk about it and then have a six month cooling off period. It may not be the best strategy in hindsight but that's what she does. She urged it all the way through the Charles and Diana implosion, just she never really understood or accepted their personalities wouldn't allow them to put duty before self. That's arguably true of the Californians, but their antics are Dollar Tree compared to Charles and Diana at war.

I see Harry unraveling within 6 months. Meghan is the more appalling and fascinating of the two. She is smarter, brutal, relentless, and strong. I think plans are underway to re-incorporate pitiful Harry alone back into the BRF after his separation from Meghan. Baby Archie will be the victim, of course, but children often are.

Meghan is insufferable on a good day. Can you imagine living with her when she's in a bad mood? Or merely disappointed about something? Or when she perceives she's been slighted? Or when you realize you see things differently?

Harry remains the spoiled prince, accustomed to the good graces of the British aristocracy -and all the young blonde pussy he wants. He's dumb as a rock, but even Harry will realize what growing middle-aged with Meghan will mean.

Spot on analysis, r145. Meghan is absolutely the tougher and smarter of the two. She is the type to always land on her feet. Harry on the other hand.....

Which would she want more: the child or the settlement? She has no interest in their system, so it's hard to see the child being valued as a lifelong bargaining chip. More of a risk: bad mother reporting, all that. I bet she'd give him the kid.

[quote]Meghan is insufferable on a good day. Can you imagine living with her when she's in a bad mood? Or merely disappointed about something? Or when she perceives she's been slighted? Or when you realize you see things differently?

One DLer said "Meghan is the cunt sister-in-law every family has" and that's the best description of her I've her heard.

The blogger From Berkshire to Buckingham has been reading and posting snarky excerpts from FF in case anyone is interested. You can read the good bits without putting any money in Scobie or Meghan’s bank account.

Her last entry is from June 18, r149. Are you referring to a different blog?

R149 - Odd, I wondered why that blog hadn't been updated since June. Where is Jane (I think that's her name?) putting up those snarky bits? What's the site called?

I'd love to read that r149. She's not posting on her blog though. Where is she posting?

I follow it in Instagram under the “Stories” button. She just put up some additional commentary a few hours ago.

What's her IG handle?

The latest from Scobie, discussing how poor Meghan felt unsupported by the no comment Royal Family: He said Meghan found this approach difficult to adjust to, adding: 'You need to lean on your new family for support and it just wasn't there often enough.'

It would be painful for her, given her long history of leaning on family for support. At the wedding the love and support on their faces was evident as they packed the seats allocated for her family.

This from a woman who ghosted her own family.

Could not find a "Stories' button on the blog site.

Neither could I, r157. Instagram is weirdly un-user-friendly.

What Meghan Markle knows about building family bridges could fit on a postage stamp.

What Meghan Markle knows about burning family bridges could fill the OED.

Scobie really is going all in on the BRF and digging a hole for himself isn't he? Every day its a new quote with the same angle: the BRF are all cold and unsupportive, they ignored and shunned poor Megs, they undercut her all the time. Like it wasn't her HUSBAND Harry's duty to teach her the ropes, since HE brought her into the firm, and had lived in it all his life? No, Meghan & Scobie have decided that was Kate's job.

R157 You have to follow “fromberkshiretobuckingham” on Instagram, not the blog.

This is very funny. It's technically satire, but everything he says is true:

"To hear that same-old moaning condescending voice ordering people how to think and do things makes people hate Meghan even more intensely than they already do. One only has to read the comments section of any news item where the ‘voice of the people’ has shat, and you will see the utter hatred for this narcissistic piece of detritus.

As for Harry, yes you keep telling us you have ‘mental’ problems. How about getting some private clinical help instead of constantly telling everyone about your mental illness. Try thinking for yourself as well sometimes and do not follow that old mangy ball wacker you were tricked into marrying without question or thought. Everyone knows you have mental problems, but damn it boy, have some fucking decorum."

She's the self-appointed expert on everything, yet has no real credentials. That's really annoying to people.

Bingo r163. That hit is on the nose for me. She's a moderately successful actress, who landed a British prince. Before her marriage she had minimal credentials in philanthropy and activism - you might say she dabbled in it a bit.

Nothing wrong with that, its more than most in her position ever do, but it hardly boosts a resume supporting the current intense amount of lecturing and preaching she and Harry are engaging in. With - I'm guessing - much more to come.

I can't help but think if she had some kind of real professional credentials in social activism, or education that supported her current activities: a doctorate in one of the social sciences or public health, and EdD (heck even a masters would be ok), some of this would land better. But she (and Harry) have none of this. Just the spotlight/money from being minor BRF members.

Yes, if she had the education or real-world experience in what she preaches, she'd have some credibility. As it is, she just comes off as a know-it-all dilettante.

This is the best description of all: "know-it-all dilettante".

R155 I just can't with this . Is Meghan the snwoflakiest snowflake that ever snowflaked and needed handholding to peel a banana or the strongest , most prepared feminist icon to ever marry into the royal family ? You can't have both narratives at the same time . And why is everyone and their royal corgie a "young mother" in need of protection except for Kate ?

She's too old to be a snowflake.

Don't tell her that!

Nobody can tell her anything... that's a big part of her problem.

Why aren't their PR people telling them to lay low? They are just digging themselves in deeper and deeper.

After all this and you still think they listen to their PR people, r171?

Besides they're back employing American publicists.... they people they are used to advising and the plans they execute don't lay low. Besides, at least 50% of them have big plans and can't see they've made any mistakes.

Where's that lamp with the genie in it?

One of my three wishes is to be a fly on the wall up at Balmoral during the "Meghan has gone too far" conference amongst HM, Charles, William, and perhaps levvel-headed Anne.

Oh to be in Scotland now that the Sussex shit has really hit the proverbial . . .

^*level-headed

r173. Can we have that in English please ?

Besides their adivsors are now American publicists.... the people those advisors are used to advising and the plans they execute put out for clients are high profile, not low profile. Besides, at least 50% of Harry and Meghan have big plans and can't recognize or understand that they've made mistakes already. They only want to hear what they want to hear.

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Mr Justice Warby looks a lot like Ryan Atkinson.

[quote]Harry has a new cropped hair style.

prepping for implants

Rowan