Trump Executive Orders will win 2020

Sure. Boris. You changed my mind. I’m voting for Zenu.

[quote]Defer Payroll Tax Collection — Here Trump is doing at least two things. First, he’s a Republican lowering taxes on the poor and middle class.

You're leaving out the fact that they would have to PAY THAT MONEY BACK ALL AT ONCE.

Not bothering to read any further.

His EOs are a failure

OP, you forgot to add that Payroll taxes fund Social Security and Medicare----two very popular programs. The seniors who voted Trump in would not like that.

spare us the nonsense. TIA.

I dont know if it will win him the election, but Biden should be ready to hear him go on and on about these orders for the next three months and during all the debates.

The executive order doesn't actually keep evictions from happening, just says for agencies to "consider" not doing evictions. People will figure that out before November as more and more people lose their homes in the next 2 months.

R4

Social Security is funded out of the general tax fund anyway, so suspending payroll taxes would have a negligible effect on the finances.

WTF are you talking about, R8? Read the Social Security site that says

[quote] Social Security is financed through a dedicated payroll tax. Employers and employees each pay 6.2 percent of wages up to the taxable maximum of $137,700 (in 2020), while the self-employed pay 12.4 percent.

And the nominees for Boldest Political Slander of 2020 are:

[quote] This is a direct attack on the DNC’s plan to see the banks throwing millions of people out of their homes during the height of the election campaign.

Like the Democrats haven’t been working tooth and nail to pass eviction bans the Constitutional way. They did it in April.

The Dems have only threatened to sue over the payroll tax cut, because Trump and Republican scum want to make it a permanent cut and “direct attack” on Social Security like they always have.

The bigger question is: why can’t Trump pass everything through the Congress like he’s supposed to?

And the answer is REPUBLICANS. This is “a direct attack” on the poor from the filthy rich AGAIN during a pandemic which the Republicans can’t be bothered to solve and Republicans are going to lose more senators over it. The GOP needs Trump’s Deplorable base of white trash swamp people supporting them to stay in power but McConnell chooses power grabs and defense systems for the filthy rich instead. BYE, GURL!

And anyone who says “Social Security is irrelevant to everyone except Boomers” is a lying idiot and deplorable shitstain for suggesting Millennials shouldn’t care about their retirement and dotage.

-1,000,000/10, BORIS!

It’s the Republican SENATORS who are trying to stop both eviction protections AND unemployment funding that’s going to “throw millions of people out of their homes” while the rich get bailouts, corporate welfare and Trump’s cronies like Kodak and YRC Trucking get fraudulent capital and make out like bandits.

To spin it as anybody’s fault but the GOP is Nazi-level propaganda.

R9

Like Al Gore’s “Lockbox”?

As soon as that money comes to the treasury it is immediately converted to treasuries and the actual funds are spent on current retirement benefits.

The Social Security retirement fund is comprised of nothing but IOUs from the treasury department.

R10

The fact that opposing it will be politically suicidal is not changed by your Russia Russia Russia hysteria.

R11

Some Republicans will be the only people opposing these Executive Orders.

Democrats don’t have the constitutional knowledge or fortitude to oppose them on principled grounds.

It’s not hysteria, r13.

Donald Trump is the paid puppet of Russian mafiarchs who want to destroy NATO and U.S. sanctions against their criminal country.

Trump has been laundering money for Russian mafiarchs for decades and his campaign was paid for by Russians, from the Mercers to Breitbart to Milo Snuffaluffagus to the NRA.

Anyone who votes for Republicans in 2020 is a traitor to the United States and a Russian pawn.

These are facts, not hysteria.

When is Mitch McConnell going to be punished for opposing Trump?

The Democrats oppose one Executive Order, but Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republicans oppose all of them.

When is Mitch McConnell going to be held accountable for opposing Donald Trump’s selfless crusade for the poor and liberal conservatism?

Dems don't need to fight anything as not only they won't do anything to improve the current situation but also most of these orders are already laws. Dems should just keep ridiculing them and pointing the obvious "legislative plagiarism". The ones fighting them are Republicans.

So to come back to this - has anyone actually seen this happen?

I work for a huge company (Fortune 10) and they are not deferring the payroll tax. My student loan provider just sent me an e-mail saying payments will resume in October. Wondering if it is just me. I know the legality of these orders were questioned

[quote] I work for a huge company (Fortune 10) and they are not deferring the payroll tax.

The expectation is that most companies aren’t going to actually defer it. And yes, if they did, you’d have to pay it all back in one lump sum.

OP, where does this “sobering analysis” come from? Interesting that you didn’t post a link.

You can tell this site is fucked up when OP and the ones who followed through to R18 do not mention the following: MEDICARE FOR ALL.

You can tell this she is also fucked up when OP and the ones who followed through to R18 do not mention the following: UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.

What are you talking about, R21. Neither of those things pertain to the topic at hand.

There was only one EO. The rest were memos.

There was only one EO. The rest were memos.

That ship has sailed, OP.

Nobody paid him any mind then, and even fewer know what the hell was in those useless political EOs now. People actually caught on that the payroll tax relief is a crypto Defund Social Security and Medicare assault, and they don't like it at all.

R25

They will get challenged in court, and lose.

The problem is that a ALL OF THEM are popular. Populist, if you may.

Will losing actually be winning?

I know that this is a very unpopular opinion, but Trump is not stupid. He knows how to “work the system” like a savant.

R26 here

When I defend orange man bad I always try to clarify my position by saying that he is one of the worst presidents ever.

I still believe that he is going to destroy Biden in November.

I honestly believed that the DNC would demand that he step aside for a candidate that was virtually unknown, but that could attract moderate voters. Cuomo was my choice.

Only a complete fool would trust Trump to get the tax delay made permanent, he won't care if he get reelected and all the tax money will be due next year.

A monarch has a proprietary interest in the functionality of his kingdom three generations down the road.

A democracy always devolves into a system where office holders and bureaucrats enrich themselves at the expense of the kingdom, because they know that it is fundamentally unsustainable, so GET THAT MONEY!

why did you have that weird and silly fantasy r27?

It's a racist right-wing conspiracy theory that Biden will be asked to step aside for a black person.

R30

Because Joe Biden has a one in 100 chance of winning in November.

Well, no not really r32, but also do you imagine the DNC just steps in and tells the winner of the primaries to just stand aside so some rando can be the nominee. Do you understand how any of this works?

R33

If the DNC understood how to win, they would’ve dumped Joe.

Democrats in general don’t like him, and enthusiastic Democrats hate him as the candidate.

That is not a winning strategy.

Democrats voted for him over the other primary candidates. Are you a fallen away Bernie Bro? Do you live in a fever dream where the candidate you like is automatically the preferred candidate of all other Democrats and it's up to the DNC to accept and promote your fantasies?

R27 is living in Fairyland. There's a greater motivation for an anti-Trump vote in this country. The only way Trump will win is if cheats and steals the election which he is currently trying to do.

I’m voting for Kodos!