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Is anyone watching this on PBS?
|by Anonymous||reply 288||June 30, 2022 9:32 PM|
I like Shaun Evans a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||August 10, 2020 3:38 AM|
I always enjoy it.
That and Metamucil.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||August 10, 2020 3:40 AM|
R1, Then you must watch "The Take"! (Stars Tom Hardy)
|by Anonymous||reply 3||August 10, 2020 4:03 AM|
Tom Hardy bugs me
|by Anonymous||reply 4||August 10, 2020 4:42 PM|
But Shaun Evans is wonderful in "The Take," and his final scene is worth it.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||August 10, 2020 5:06 PM|
Endeavor was the least loved of all the space shuttles.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||August 10, 2020 5:13 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 7||August 10, 2020 6:38 PM|
Endeavour the space shuttle must try harder.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||August 10, 2020 6:40 PM|
R3... I actually very much enjoyed Endeavour, though not Morse. Shaun Evans is terrific.
I know I am an eldergay or at least a premature eldergay as I watch pretty much nothing but PBS from conventional broadcast television.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||August 10, 2020 6:41 PM|
I love Shaun Evans
|by Anonymous||reply 10||August 10, 2020 7:57 PM|
I love it and watch it mainly for Shaun Evans and Roger Allam.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||August 10, 2020 9:04 PM|
Yes, love the stories
|by Anonymous||reply 12||August 10, 2020 9:33 PM|
Roger Allam is a gem.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||August 10, 2020 10:02 PM|
Roger Allam is a hot daddy.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||August 10, 2020 10:14 PM|
I went crawling back to "Endeavor" last night in spite of my mid-series boycott (WHET to the lovely nurse love-interest??!!); there's no resisting the allure of Shaun Evans's cheekbones.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||August 10, 2020 10:23 PM|
^ The love story subplots always feel misplaced to me. They need to work on that.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||August 10, 2020 11:12 PM|
Those Shaun Evans' groupies must watch The Last Weekend in which he and Rupert Penry-Jones present dongs.
Endeavour was good until season 4 or 5, then the stupid romantic subplots kinda ruined it.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||August 10, 2020 11:17 PM|
Oh, they are with this new episode, r16! The ending might explain the otherwise inexplicable insistence of Ludo to have Morse as a best bud. I mean, attending Oxford can't be that big a connection.....in Oxford.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||August 10, 2020 11:18 PM|
It was a slow burn for me, took me awhile to get into the series. I got PBS Passport this past year and caught up to the latest season. This season is set in 1970, that's not that far off from the mid 80's John Thaw Morse timeline. Will Endeavour make an effort to reconcile its Morse with that one?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||August 10, 2020 11:19 PM|
^ The way that Ludo was all buddy-buddy with Morse after not having spoken to him in years made me wonder if he was going to hit on Morse
|by Anonymous||reply 20||August 10, 2020 11:20 PM|
R20, I totally thought we were going to get a gay storyline!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||August 10, 2020 11:23 PM|
Much better than the latest series of Grantchester.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||August 10, 2020 11:28 PM|
R20, That was what I was intimating: a three-some, attempted by Ludo after his wife told him of her Little Death in Venice.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||August 10, 2020 11:41 PM|
I wanted to like it because I love Inspector Morse. But I found it pretentious and extremely boring.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||August 10, 2020 11:43 PM|
R24, Shaun Evans is certainly attractive, but to me John Thaw was more interesting to watch. And the original had better plots, and better writers (like Anthony Minghella) and directors (like Danny Boyle).
|by Anonymous||reply 25||August 10, 2020 11:50 PM|
Checking Wiki, I found that Thaw was only 45 when Morse debut in 1987. And was only 60 when he died in 2002. He was like Wilford Brimley--they looked and acted much older than they were. I was shocked when Brimley died last month, I thought he had died in the early 2000's. I was surprised to learn he played 20 years older in Cocoon. I thought he was in his 70's in the 80's, how the hell did he live until 2020!
|by Anonymous||reply 26||August 11, 2020 2:21 AM|
R16: You should use the thread number you are referring to instead of using up arrows. We typically use ^^ at the beginning of a post to indicate edits to our own preceding comment.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||August 11, 2020 2:54 AM|
Fun fact: Roger Allam was the first ever Javert in Les Mis... created the role in 1985.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||August 11, 2020 5:19 AM|
Allam looks like he was in Claudius but he's actually one of the few older venerable British actors who wasn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||August 11, 2020 1:31 PM|
Love Allam and like Shane a lot. However, it could be called "Inspectors" or any other name, because other than being set in Oxford and the fact that Morse is a cop who loves classical music, I can't find that Shane is anything like Morse. I just don't get that vibe at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||August 13, 2020 4:13 AM|
Roger Allam is in the later episodes of the satiric "The Thick of It" and he's sexy and funny and caustic. Very impressed.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||August 13, 2020 4:24 AM|
I love Roger Allam as an actor, but I get very sick of Fred Thursday as a character. He's always dragging Morse down. I did like for once, though, that his wife Win was part of the actual story. I like the character and I like the woman who plays her.
The Italian woman Morse fell for seems like Cecily Strong playing a stereotype of an Italian woman on SNL.
From what I've read, the whistling serial killer will thread as a storyline through all three episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||August 13, 2020 4:34 AM|
As soon as these last two episodes air, I'm going back and bingewatching Endeavour. It's available on Amazon Prime and PBS Passport.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||August 13, 2020 9:49 AM|
I absolutely love Endeavour and I never liked or watched Morse. There was so much foreshadowing in the early seasons that every finale I expected Thursday to be killed off but this time they’ve already announced an 8th series. Shaun Evans is fine but I watch it to see Roger Allam and lately for Anton Bright as well. His character has really grown. I’ve rewatched most of the seasons. It’s very dark though.
Re the current season, this Ludo guy...it’s a set up, right? He’s out for revenge because Morse slept with his wife or he’s an international crook or both.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||August 13, 2020 10:56 AM|
Also in the PBS thread several months ago someone recommended watching the 2nd series of The Missing because I liked Baptiste so much. I am watching it now and it is fantastic. (Dropped out of the 1st season after ten minutes because it involved a kidnapped kid; can’t watch that, too realistic). Baptiste is a lovely character.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||August 13, 2020 11:05 AM|
A younger Roger Allam is in "Midsomer Murders," Season 1, Episode 4: "Faithful Unto Death."
|by Anonymous||reply 36||August 13, 2020 7:22 PM|
Holy shit R36 Joyce actually had some volume in her hair!
|by Anonymous||reply 37||August 13, 2020 8:04 PM|
Rewatched it last night because I’d fallen asleep last week. I’d missed the whole confession scene by the head scientist guy but I’m still confused, did he confess to killing the bar maid too? Was she blackmailing him? That was kind of rushed.
Ludo No Last Name is def a bad ‘un. “Hello old chum...er...” “Morse” “Right, we were up together, I was in College X and you were in College...” “College Y” “That’s right. How have you been?”
|by Anonymous||reply 38||August 16, 2020 11:41 AM|
R2 - if you accompany that with a douche and wash, marry me ;-)
|by Anonymous||reply 39||August 16, 2020 11:44 AM|
[quote]Roger Allam is in the later episodes of the satiric "The Thick of It" and he's sexy and funny and caustic. Very impressed.
Allam played a pedophile in one of "The Missing" series on STARZ. Not sure if it was the 1st or 2nd season.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||August 16, 2020 1:11 PM|
my fave show on pbs. along with vera .....the storys are complex and lots o fun seein them solve the crime. best actors around. shaun evaans is HOT
|by Anonymous||reply 41||August 16, 2020 1:51 PM|
"I’d missed the whole confession scene by the head scientist guy but I’m still confused, did he confess to killing the bar maid too? Was she blackmailing him? That was kind of rushed."
No, it was implied that the real killer of the barmaid is still out there
|by Anonymous||reply 42||August 16, 2020 5:28 PM|
I just finished watching that r40, season 2. He wasn’t a pedophile but he covered up for one due to some misguided army rah-rah buddy b.s. which was somehow the fault of the woman commanding officer.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||August 16, 2020 5:53 PM|
[quote]I just finished watching that [R40], season 2. He wasn’t a pedophile but he covered up for one due to some misguided army rah-rah buddy b.s. which was somehow the fault of the woman commanding officer.
Are you sure about that? Wasn't there the scene where his character's collection of kiddie porn tapes was found on his boat? In fact, Allam's character lead the other person to the collection.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||August 16, 2020 7:57 PM|
How did the quietly sexy Endeavour character morph into the desperate pathetic pussy chaser Morse? Old man Morse seemed to hit on every female he encountered, even wildly inappropriate ones like major suspects in active cases. I watched the Endeavour series first and loved it, but Inspector Morse was less enjoyable for that reason. I'm going to start Inspector Lewis, and see how he adapts to being the old-timer in a working relationship.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||August 16, 2020 8:55 PM|
HOW EXCITING,,,new shows now, season openers, the plots so inscrutable......the delightful and said to be hung like a bull, shaun evans.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||August 17, 2020 10:51 AM|
Sometimes i have to watch the same episode several times to get the plot......the one with the tiger was my fave, man eating tigers in UK !
|by Anonymous||reply 47||August 17, 2020 10:54 AM|
[quote]said to be hung like a bull, shaun evans.
Said by whom, where? On display for all to view?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||August 17, 2020 11:26 AM|
I don’t remember a boat r44. Allam’s character and the black friend (who was thought to have later committed suicide) covered up for the pedo soldier because they were all army buddies. In doing so they killed the girl’s father and (accidentally) the younger sister. So then the pedo soldier was able to blackmail them into helping him with the sick kidnapped girl. By then Allam was a brigadier general with more to lose.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||August 17, 2020 12:03 PM|
They didn’t seem to spend much time trying to figure out who murdered the cook/towpath flasher. Thursday is still on about the pub waitress and her boyfriend. Morse is mooning over Ludo’s wife. Bright is worried about his wife. They’re all working on the Indian restaurant plot.
There was a clip afterwards discussing the changes this season and how the characters are “growing”. Ugh, I hate the petty sniping between Morse and Thursday. It’s beneath them. I never watched the original Morse except for two or three episodes, enough to know I didn’t care for it. Crabby guy yelling at his subordinate. The show runner feels compelled to steer Endeavour in that direction but it’s a shame. The relationship between young Morse and Thursday is much better written and to twist it to conform with the earlier series is going to be a predictable and regrettable mistake. Endeavour is a victim of its success.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||August 17, 2020 12:27 PM|
it was on reddit, some guy saw on at an on set urinal. thick ten, figures, skinny vanilla guys like that have big weenies. ide go for his smooth pink fukhole and tear it up
|by Anonymous||reply 51||August 17, 2020 3:22 PM|
Thank you so much, r51. It doesn't take much for me to consider Shaun Evans' dong numerous times during each episode. Now my imaginings shall be out of control.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||August 17, 2020 3:49 PM|
A few shots on the show sometimes show it hanging down there like jon hamm's mancock.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||August 17, 2020 5:07 PM|
[quote]I just finished watching that [[R40]], season 2. He wasn’t a pedophile but he covered up for one due to some misguided army rah-rah buddy b.s. which was somehow the fault of the woman commanding officer.
Are you sure you're not confusing 'The Missing" with 'Baptiste'? Wasn't the Dutch woman commanding police officer, who Baptiste had the son with but didn't know he did, hiding something important about the case Baptiste was working on?
Guess I have to re-watch all these series.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||August 18, 2020 4:57 AM|
[quote]A few shots on the show sometimes show it hanging down there like jon hamm's mancock.
There are nudes of Shaun Evans out there, his cock isn't that big.
You guys are hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||August 18, 2020 4:58 AM|
The nudes i saw, it hung to his knees.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||August 18, 2020 11:20 AM|
r55 r56 Pics?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||August 18, 2020 11:25 AM|
I am not loving this season. Far too soap opera -y. I am not against knowing the main character's personal life per se, but this season seem really forced.
Bright and his wife seems like an after school special/very special episode. Anton Lesser is a fantastic actor, but the material is beneath him.
The Ludo/Violetta subplot is like a bad romance novel with all of the tatty trapping: mansions, fabulous parties, exotic locations/decor, chic clothing. I expect to see Pia Zadora any minute. Also far too clever in a sophomoric way. I get the references to The Talented Mr Ripley (Ludo does have a surname- "Talenti"), but it seems rather high school clever.
In fact, the name dropping (Fanny to his Johnny, etc.) is really annoying. It is as if the writers are saying, "See we did our research! We can name all of these people/things/ events from the period!"
|by Anonymous||reply 58||August 18, 2020 11:49 AM|
R58, I watched the entire season, you're not wrong...The end is ripe, very, very ripe. I'm not saying it watchable but my eyeballs couldn't stop rolling.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||August 18, 2020 12:26 PM|
I'm liking this season more than any other. I love it when he gets all opera-y, even soap opera-y. Of course, I am a contributor to the Midwestern Marvels threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||August 18, 2020 12:56 PM|
R60, you'll be happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||August 18, 2020 2:20 PM|
first 2 episodes have been let doown.....earlier ones were complex scripts and fun...bring in some new hot men
|by Anonymous||reply 62||August 18, 2020 2:22 PM|
[quote]I expect to see Pia Zadora any minute.
Doable. Very, very doable.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||August 18, 2020 2:26 PM|
His lips and eyes make me drop to my knees in desirous veneration, ide be his sugar mommy in a second, if he is good titty torturer. and piss giver.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||August 18, 2020 5:52 PM|
There was a coup in Mali today. (I’m watching season 2 of Deep State so this is relevant to me)
Okay r54, The Missing Season 2: No, the only pedo was the Army public affairs officer who helped Keely Hawes and husband deal with the reappearance/death of their “daughter”. Twenty years previously, in Iraq he had been molesting a local girl, her father caught and tortured him, and Allam’s character and the black guy went AWOL, rescued him, killing the father and a younger sister in the process. Their reasoning was, they were just looking out for each other because their commanding officer (the blonde woman) was undisciplined, weak, yadda yadda, it was all her fault. (Yeah, not really a valid plot point)
Later on, when one of the kidnapped girls got sick, the pedo blackmailed Allam (now a general) and the black guy (the only one who actually had a conscience) into helping him by threatening to tell what happened in Iraq. The sick girl had seen their faces so she could identify them also. But they had no connection with the girls otherwise.
Good role for Roger Allam, take-charge brigadier general and then man losing his mind to dementia.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||August 19, 2020 4:08 AM|
looooooove roger allam, ICON
|by Anonymous||reply 66||August 19, 2020 11:38 AM|
My fantasia is allam sitting his fat hot ass on my face, and shaun sitting on my hard cock, and the fug daughter who ran away from home (she looks like she could be shauns momma) must stand by with that forelorn face: man she is a drag: weird casting huh
|by Anonymous||reply 67||August 19, 2020 11:49 AM|
Shaun Evans looks just like my dad when he was that age. Makes it a weird experience.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||August 19, 2020 1:55 PM|
Don't get the Shaun or Roger lust here, both men are average in the looks department.
I'm not talking about their acting, I'm talking about the posts here drooling over their looks. This is a very odd thread, neither man would be considered extremely good looking.
Shaun is too thin, maybe if he put on some weight, he'd be more attractive. Shaun looks like one of my goofy awkward young cousins.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||August 20, 2020 12:46 PM|
takes all kinds mary, u should now dat by now
|by Anonymous||reply 70||August 21, 2020 5:44 AM|
I knew there was something weird about the "friend" and his wife
|by Anonymous||reply 71||August 24, 2020 2:34 AM|
Ugh, this romance between Morse and Violetta was too cliched and predictable. OTOH, the relationship between Bright and his wife was touching. (Not sure why the reporter would’ve learned of her accident before the police or her husband coming home to find her)
BUT THE BIGGEST ERROR IS HOW THEY ARE TWISTING ENDEAVOUR TO FIT INTO THE MORSE CHARACTER. Just stop it. Acknowledge that the student has surpassed the master and let Endeavour, Thursday, Bright and Strange get along and solve crimes together. It’s a mistake to break up a winning team because of what happened on a series that ran thirty fricking years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||August 24, 2020 2:50 AM|
Where are the Shaun Evans nudes?!
|by Anonymous||reply 73||August 24, 2020 4:04 AM|
How did Bright ever get such a beautiful wife, even if she has been constantly dying for two seasons?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||August 24, 2020 4:46 AM|
"Endeavour"'s season ended so ridiculously i cannot believe it.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||August 24, 2020 5:38 AM|
What a fucking joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||August 24, 2020 6:30 AM|
I just realized this afternoon that there was a seventh season, and I attempted to catch up starting with s 7 ep 01, but I quit it about 20 minutes in. I'm dreadfully tired of all the moping, from everyone, but especially from Morse.
I can see, though, how they're evolving his character into the older Inspector Morse of the earlier series. He's definitely gone from a melancholy and somewhat callow guy to the sour, pathetic skirt-chaser John Thaw portrayed. Not my cup of tea, though. It's sad to see the fairly attractive young character inexorably become what we know he's going to become.
One thing I've always wondered, though. What TF is his beef with Joan Thursday and, eventually, with Fred Thursday, too? The writing is so goddam elliptical that I can't see any real reason for all the animosity. On the other hand, I may have missed something, since all the seasons blur for me into a long, depressing mess.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||August 24, 2020 6:56 AM|
Of course, I know that there was a brief possibility of romance between Morse and Joan, and he was more into it than she was, but, man, he really dwelled on that and was disproportionately bitter about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||August 24, 2020 6:58 AM|
I keep harping on the subject I know, but it’s so ridiculous that the writers have their hands tied because of an ancient albeit beloved show. In the first season of Endeavour, practically the first episode featured the love story of “the one that got away” according to the 90s series Morse, which turned him into a bitter crank. It was a tiny blip in this series. Since neither Fred Thursday nor his daughter was mentioned on Morse although other current characters are, the writers have to conjure up ridiculous ways for them to be on the outs.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||August 24, 2020 11:56 AM|
I’ve never met a man called Thursday.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||August 24, 2020 4:47 PM|
Excellent show. Watched the Season & finale last night and loved it!
The show gets better with each season
|by Anonymous||reply 81||August 24, 2020 4:51 PM|
There's going to be an eighth season, too, apparently. i do enjoy the mysteries but I am so sick of the constant problems between Morse and the Thursdays I've grown sick of that part of it.
The best character in the whole show has been Anton Lesser's complex Chief inspector Bright. Lesser is a superb actor (one of the very best in the UK) and he's brought so many layers to his part. He started out as a hardass, but as the show has gone through its seasons you see that bright is essentially a deeply kind man underneath his crustiness, and though he can be silly sometimes (and he's not as smart as Morse or thursday) and also can be hurt, he's surprisingly resilient. When he played Harold Macmillan in the first two seasons of The Crown he really amazed me because even though both Bright and Macmillan are quite similar in some ways (they are well-placed stuffed shirts), he put in enough shadings to both characterizations that they were really quite different: Lesser's Macmillan, despite being more highly placed and better educated and wealthier, was not as resilient as his Bright.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||August 24, 2020 5:01 PM|
You loved that absurd plot? SMH.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||August 24, 2020 5:24 PM|
R83, Smell My Hole??????
|by Anonymous||reply 84||August 24, 2020 5:29 PM|
R83 - Yes I did. Sometimes it is not what it is about but how it goes about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||August 24, 2020 5:30 PM|
Anton Lesser in Wolf Hall! He reminds me of Anton Walbrook a lot, the precision in speaking.
This series gave DS Strange more to do, foreshadowing his rise to DCS in Morse.
This season’s mystery was okay with the towpath murderer/ pub orphan storyline but the jogger /hit by car guy was a complete clanger (oh, he’s just a copycat because that’s what jogging will do to you) The love triangle story was predictable. Setting the denouement in Venice was ludicrous. Thursday jumping on a train to follow Endeavour because of a letter to Joan? And arriving just in time to stop Ludo from shooting him? And then the soap opera dying scene while Thursday is left to chase after Ludo and shoot him? Think next season will start with Thursday in an Italian jail? Or is Ludo going to become a Moriarity uber arch criminal character if there is no body?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||August 24, 2020 6:26 PM|
Are we supposed to believe that the original affair in Venice was a fantastic coincidence or that it was somehow part of Ludo’s plot and the tension over his wife’s affair with Morse was all fake because . . .
Also, what good did having a “stupid police friend” really do for Ludo, and if one wanted a stupid policeman, was Morse the best choice?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||August 24, 2020 6:37 PM|
R87 - I think there will be more to come in Season 8.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||August 24, 2020 6:44 PM|
I'll tell you what, besides truck-sized plot holes, I didn't care for so basically skipped:
The epilogue of showing us the camera work. No!! Allow me (us) the suspension of disbelief!
|by Anonymous||reply 89||August 25, 2020 2:03 AM|
[quote] Thursday jumping on a train to follow Endeavour because of a letter to Joan?
I wasn't watching as closely as I should have but didn't the letter have all the evidence that kinked Ludo to the crimes?
I agree, that back and forth with the opera was just pretentious to me. What was the point? We know Morse likes opera but his life is not an opera.
I don't mind some of the other issues. That's what happens in fiction - someone does show up to shoot the villain at the right moment. LOL!
I think Bright has turned into a fascinating character. Starting with us learning his history in India during the war and his shooting the tiger and saving Morse's life. The newer story revolving around his wife's illness further brought a humanity to him. So we know he is a man of principles in the most trying of circumstances (refusing to be corrupted with a bribe that could help save his wife's life) extremely competent in stressful situations and brave. Lesser does a stellar job of turning a stereotype on its head.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||August 25, 2020 2:33 AM|
Wouldn't the insurance company be suspicious of a guy cashing in policies for people he isn't related to?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||August 25, 2020 2:53 AM|
hard to believe, but each episode is more boring thatn the previous, in tthe new season
|by Anonymous||reply 92||August 25, 2020 7:20 AM|
Worst season of ENDEAVOR, ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||August 25, 2020 12:22 PM|
I liked it more than most seasons. The last two episodes were better than most, and I think I've seen them all.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||August 25, 2020 12:24 PM|
"Wouldn't the insurance company be suspicious of a guy cashing in policies for people he isn't related to?"
Buying people's insurance policies for a fraction of their worth is legitimate. You see ads on TV for this all the time.
If the insurance companies does not suspect murder by the beneficiary , because it is not on the death certificate as cause of death, then the payout is almost immediate like within 30 days in most states in the USA.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||August 25, 2020 1:32 PM|
R90 - Bright has definitely become the most interesting character due entirely to Anton Lesser.
I was surprised at highly stylish his wife was as compared to the other WAGs on the show. It was clear that Bright and his wife were very much in love.
I am willing to bet we find out in future seasons she came from a lower-level aristocratic or moderately wealthy landed gentry background.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||August 25, 2020 1:38 PM|
R90, yes the letter to Joan had all the evidence but it was such a clumsy plot device. What if Mrs Thursday hadn’t opened it when it arrived—it was addressed to Joan, she should have just forwarded it. Then Thursday would’ve arrived too late. Also, the apology about his behavior, I mean just send it directly to the man ffs.
The entire last act could’ve been set in England and been more believable.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||August 25, 2020 1:42 PM|
R97 - Of course Mrs. Thursday open Joan's letter. Mrs. Thursday is a Nosy Nelly and a good plot device.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||August 25, 2020 1:49 PM|
[quote]The entire last act could’ve been set in England and been more believable.
And yet, I liked looking at Venice. I found it entirely believable, what's more, that Morse would have gone there for New Year's. I liked it so much, I'm willing to forgive the plot structure that brought Thursday to Venice Just in the Nick of Time.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||August 25, 2020 1:53 PM|
Oh don’t get me wrong, I love Endeavour, it’s one of my favorite shows. I just wish the writers spent a bit more time working out the plots. The acting and the art direction/production design is always fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||August 25, 2020 2:09 PM|
I think we're supposed to believe that Morse and Violetta met by accident. Then Ludo and Morse met, and at their first meal together, Ludo started feeling Morse out, to see if he was corruptible. It makes sense that Ludo might want a useful idiot at the police, and the fact that Morse left evidence hanging around at his place, where Ludo could see it, at least makes it worth Ludo's time to cultivate this potential asset.
I don't think Ludo was supposed to know about the affair, because they went to the trouble of showing us how he called the house trying to reach Morse and instead reached Violetta.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||August 25, 2020 2:12 PM|
R101 - Never understood why Morse "left" the phone number of his love shack with his department.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||August 25, 2020 2:46 PM|
Because he needs to be reachable 24/7 and there are no cell phones.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||August 25, 2020 3:10 PM|
R103 - I realize there are no cell phones. Was he living there with her or did they just use the place for rolls in the hay.
The true nature of the living arrangement was not quite clear to me from the episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||August 25, 2020 4:14 PM|
He was not living there, but would be there long enough, probably at a regular time.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||August 25, 2020 4:21 PM|
R105 - Thanks!
After all the wonderful and insightful posts on this thread, I plan to re-watch the episode tonight for the third time.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||August 25, 2020 4:31 PM|
Endeavor meeting Violetta / Ludo kind of reminds me of Oedipus meeting a lovely woman, having an affair and then oops - he finds out she's his mother. It's all very heavy-handed Greek tragedy, down to the deus ex machina of Fred Thursday arriving at precisely the right moment to save the hero while the woman dies in the hero's arms. Ludo even talks about how he left his murders up to fate.
But maybe I'm overthinking it.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||August 25, 2020 9:11 PM|
I thought it was way too much of a coincidence that she turned up in Oxford....so I assume they were planning the scam from the beginning
|by Anonymous||reply 108||August 25, 2020 9:22 PM|
R103: I thought their love nest belonged to Violetta's dancer friend who was away on-tour. But didn't she turn up dead? Aye! So many characters and I am confused. Will take a third viewing by week's end: three is the charm.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||August 25, 2020 11:20 PM|
My R109 is in response to R104. Oops.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||August 25, 2020 11:22 PM|
R109, yes, the "friend" ended up a life insurance victim of Ludo and Violetta.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||August 25, 2020 11:38 PM|
I think the friend, Petra, was intended to be a victim of Ludo/Violetta, but copycat towpath killer (the one the women caught) killed Petra first.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||August 26, 2020 12:40 AM|
Was the mansion they were living in really theirs, or were they squatting in the home of one of their victims, just like with the dancer?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||August 26, 2020 3:56 AM|
There was no discussion about the mansion Ludo and Violetta were living in, so I guess that's up to the viewer. They were living there quite visibly to the local community, so it's more likely they had the legal right to be there, as part of their facade.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||August 26, 2020 4:28 AM|
The actress who played the Italian woman, Stephanie Leonidas, her younger sister is also an actress, a better actress and much prettier, Georgina Leonidas.
Georgina was very good in the short, "Baghdad Express", I think she was in a Harry Potter film but I've never seen one.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||August 26, 2020 12:41 PM|
Was Ludo ever a student at Oxford? Must have been right? He can't have faked that in Oxford without anyone questioning it?
|by Anonymous||reply 116||August 26, 2020 4:33 PM|
Ludo recognized Morse from their university days. He could have been lying about that, but if Ludo never attended Oxford at all, I think Morse would have seen through that. I vaguely remember an Inspector Morse story where Morse was able to spot someone who lied about attending the university - Morse was kind of smug about spotting the clues.
Also, at their first meal together, Ludo made a vague comment that made it seem like his wife had left him. That would have resonated with Morse, who was dumped by his fiancee during their university years. If Ludo was in Oxford at that time, he might have remembered the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||August 26, 2020 4:43 PM|
Really interested to see what Morse does with the "crack shack" house he bought.
I hope it is done up decently as I am interested in seeing what the set designers do with the interiors of a newly renovated historic house in 1971.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||August 26, 2020 4:50 PM|
That’s another big plot hole as far as I’m concerned. Morse would have been very skeptical of someone quite memorable, whom he did not recall claiming to remember him from Oxford, and would have wondered why this jet-setting, fabulously rich man was so intent on being his BFF. The ridiculous coincidence of the wife would only amplify his suspicions. Anyone would be curious about his new friend’s source of wealth, but Morse is not shown to have given it any thought.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||August 26, 2020 5:19 PM|
R119 - Maybe Morse was just blinded by the wife's hole. Lust can do strange things to people.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||August 26, 2020 5:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 121||August 26, 2020 5:54 PM|
R107, Oedipus didn't simply "meet a lovely woman...." He was married to (the recently-widowed by him unwittingly) Queen Jocasta for saving her realm from the Sphinx.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||August 27, 2020 8:33 AM|
If the story extends to the next season—I hope so—because they didn’t show a body and Thursday as a British policeman carrying a gun and shooting someone in Italy has to be a complicated international incident at least, I think it will be proved that Ludo didn’t attend Oxford. C’mon, he was a conman. If future Morse is good at detecting fakes, then this is when he learned to do it. Remember at their initial meeting, Morse was the one who offered up his name and college name. It was right after he was chasing the guy who picked his pocket so he was distracted, later he would’ve been wary of leading questions like that.
One thing, opera in Venice, sure but wouldn’t a true buff go to La Scala?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||August 27, 2020 1:54 PM|
R123, forgot about the pickpocket. It was a setup for Ludo to "meet" Morse.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||August 27, 2020 2:47 PM|
R123 - Per an interview I read today online at PBS Masterpiece with Shaun Evans, Season 7 story line is over and done.
Season 8 will return to a stand-alone episode format. The interview is worth reading and shooting in Venice is much discussed.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||August 27, 2020 3:01 PM|
Worth reading, but not worth linking?
|by Anonymous||reply 126||August 27, 2020 4:07 PM|
Good thing for Morse that Thursday came to his aid, instead of investigating some stolen-auto incident. Heh.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||August 27, 2020 4:14 PM|
R126 - Not sure I know how to post a link but I will try.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||August 27, 2020 6:59 PM|
I was wondering why the opera was not at all familiar. They wrote it for Endeavor.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||August 27, 2020 8:00 PM|
No kidding! I didn’t recognize it but I know very little about opera so I figured it was my ignorance.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||August 28, 2020 4:51 AM|
man i love this show, the first 3 seasons damn fine. but this season is worst of the lot....simple simon...
yes anton lesser is fab! he a very well respected actor in england...done fab stage work
gettin weary of poor ole morse never findin love
may as well be a pitiful closet case..
|by Anonymous||reply 131||August 29, 2020 1:57 AM|
R131, Best not watch the "Inspector Morse" series then.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||August 29, 2020 10:46 PM|
i looove insp morse, awesome scripts, i love endeavor but this last season was amateurs ville hun
the new writers sucked
|by Anonymous||reply 133||August 31, 2020 1:43 AM|
There will be a Season 8:
"Intrepid British detective Endeavour Morse may have just returned to our screens for the seventh season of beloved British crime drama Endeavour but for fans who are still hungry for more mystery, there's good news: the show, inspired by the novels of Colin Dexter—has been officially renewed for an eighth season."
|by Anonymous||reply 134||September 1, 2020 4:15 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 135||September 1, 2020 4:27 AM|
after this season, my hunger is no mo
|by Anonymous||reply 136||September 2, 2020 2:15 AM|
I found the Italian couple storyline to be very soap opera-ish. I also found it bizarre that such an intelligent man as Endeavour fell for that fake plastic Italian femme fatale. Sure, he was horny, but c'mon.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||September 2, 2020 6:18 AM|
R137, The story line was intended to be opera. I get what they were trying to do, but the result was far too twee. Also, the operatic story line was jarringly inconsistent with the tone of the series.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||September 2, 2020 12:11 PM|
R137 - It was not the best season of the Endeavour series but compared to other TV shows I think it was very much above average.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||September 2, 2020 12:25 PM|
I liked this season more than most. The opera was silly, and very, very [italic]deus[/italic] , but I like looking at that part of Morse's character.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||September 2, 2020 12:44 PM|
R140 - Did not mean to imply I did not like Season 7. I loved it. I was just comparing Season 7 to previous seasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||September 2, 2020 1:37 PM|
I was just comparing it to other seasons, too, r141. I have mostly enjoyed Endeavour, though I do get bogged down sometimes in the mystery part of an episode. This did not happen as frequently this season.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||September 2, 2020 1:40 PM|
I thought the best "mystery" episode was last season when a young girl turned up dead and it ended up she was ran over by a car of an owner of a horse farm driven by his wife. That was a really good episode IMPO.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||September 2, 2020 3:48 PM|
A bit OT, but anyone watching 'DELICIOUS' on PBS? The series is with Iain Glen, Dawn French and Emelia Fox. One night, it was listed OnDemand at the PBS channel, then, when I went to watch the episode I missed before the last one, the entire OnDemand listing was gone. Where I live this show is aired Fridays on PBS. ENDEAVOUR is still listed in the OnDemand line-up, but not DELICIOUS.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||September 3, 2020 1:26 AM|
I haven’t heard of that r144 but my local station has been very weird this summer. It randomly started airing the finales of the Great British Baking Show. Not full seasons, just the finales. It’s also been showing European police detectives series—Swedish, Belgian, Italian— but it ended the Italian one at the beginning of a new season.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||September 3, 2020 12:22 PM|
R145, DELICIOUS is pretty good, a comedy/drama, with lots of twists. BBCAmerica has also been airing some AMC and PBS series, so I have no idea what's going on with that.
Yes, I also noticed the foreign police shows, I tried to get into them, but you cannot turn away for a second because you need to read the subtitles. That's why I stopped watching the Italian series on HBO, the show about the two Italian friends. I speak and understand some Italian, but I'm not completely fluent. It just became a major chore trying to watch it.
I did enjoy The Tunnel, despite so much of the dialog being in French.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||September 3, 2020 5:21 PM|
they put no energy into this season
scripts were mickey mouse compared to previous seasons
|by Anonymous||reply 147||September 3, 2020 10:54 PM|
Watched season one episode one, again....alwys have to masturbate to the hot son of the shopkeeper, he in white shirt with ciggy in mouth: hot lad...i dream of suckin out his ass lips
|by Anonymous||reply 148||September 4, 2020 12:08 PM|
In season 2, loving it. Stands on its own. Hard connecting this Morse to the later Morse except for the brooding, alcohol consumption and problems with women. The solutions of the crimes are convoluted. Like Agatha Christey parodies but I take that is intentional and a bit camp and enjoy them for that reason. Hathaway in Lewis is meant to be the Morse type and young Morse is much like Hathaway. While Thursday is much like Lewis. Thursday says, in an aside, that his grandmother was from the north of England. Lewis is a Geordie. The crestors of Endeavor might be saying that's one reason Morse is so fond of Lewis as he reminds him of his mentor.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||September 4, 2020 12:27 PM|
[quote]hot son of the shopkeeper,
Who? Link please. There was not one remotely "hot' person in this series. Even the Italian femme fatale was not much to look at. Shaun Evans would be much more attractive if he wasn't so thin, he's not ugly, but he's sickly looking.
These days, the bar for what passes as "hot" is always so damn low.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||September 4, 2020 6:59 PM|
yea, young morse such a tee totaling bore, older morse was big drinker and skirt lover...
|by Anonymous||reply 151||September 6, 2020 2:17 AM|
R151 He drinks quite a bit in the pilot, then goes dry for a few seasons, then drinks again throughout the rest of the series.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||September 6, 2020 5:22 AM|
NEVER seen young morse remotely drunk, he needs 2 be, liven him up a bit
|by Anonymous||reply 153||September 6, 2020 10:44 AM|
He got drunk in the pilot. Thursday pinned a note on his suit (while passed out on his bed) saying he had to report in at 8 a.m. in the morning.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||September 7, 2020 12:14 AM|
The main skill evidenced by Shaun Evans is his adopting an Oxford accent. In interviews he speaks with his natural Liverpool one!
|by Anonymous||reply 155||September 7, 2020 9:47 AM|
only 3 episodes in this season 7??? the third was announced as the finale.....odd....other seasons had twice as tht many or more.
nice to see him smoke a cig for a sec in this one, butches the lad up a bit..
|by Anonymous||reply 156||September 8, 2020 6:48 AM|
That 3rd episode is ridiculous writing.....but ah venice....the smell of it
|by Anonymous||reply 157||September 8, 2020 7:56 AM|
R155 - Shaun Evans may have been raised in Liverpool but his immediate family is from Ireland.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||September 8, 2020 5:17 PM|
R158, You know, I actually thought his accent is Irish, but then figured I was wrong because of Google!
|by Anonymous||reply 159||September 9, 2020 4:59 AM|
[quote] A bit OT, but anyone watching 'DELICIOUS' on PBS?
Tried, but it was just too awful. Very much like the lottery winners series. Short term soaps as opposed to East Enders-length soaps. Can’t sit through ‘em. Characters & plots are too predictable.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||September 10, 2020 12:14 AM|
is this 3rd episode the final one of the season?
|by Anonymous||reply 161||September 10, 2020 12:17 AM|
Yes, r161. That was it.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||September 10, 2020 12:24 AM|
So the flat in Venice turned out to be the flat of Violetta’s friend who happened to be in England and was murdered on the towpath by a sadistic psychopath, but Morse managed to link her to Violetta & Ludo and a life insurance murder ring?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||September 10, 2020 12:30 AM|
Was there an homage to Silence of the Lambs in this episode? Strange happened to be investigating a different case & unexpectedly found a sadistic psychopathic killer living in the house of a recently deceased person and heard something while looking at a business card in the kitchen.
In SoL, Clarice is investigating Fredericka Bimmel’s murder & finds a psychopathic killer living in the house of a recently deceased person and sees something when the killer is in the kitchen going though business cards.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||September 10, 2020 12:37 AM|
[quote] He started out as a hardass, but as the show has gone through its seasons you see that bright is essentially a deeply kind man underneath his crustiness, and though he can be silly sometimes (and he's not as smart as Morse or thursday) and also can be hurt, he's surprisingly resilient.
I think his role/character was expanded in this series because he was in Game of Thrones. He is a reliably well known actor in the UK but wasn’t known much in the US until he played Maester Qyburn in GoT. I think that got the attention of channel surfers in the US (“hey...that’s evil old Qyburn playing a cop! What show is this?”) and regular Masterpiece Mystery watchers, so they expanded his character & made him more noble in order to sho what a versatile actor he is.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||September 10, 2020 12:50 AM|
Anyone else catch the reference to Cousin Kevin? From The Who’s “Tommy”?
We’re on our own, cousin.
All alone, cousin.
Let’s think of a game to play
Now the grownups have all gone away
You won’t be much fun being blind, deaf & dumb but I’ve no one to play with today.
Do you know how to play hide & seek? To find me it will take you a week.
But tied to that chair you won’t go anywhere
There’s a lot I can do with a freak
How would you feel if I turned on the bath
Ducked your head under and started to laugh?
What would you do if I shut you outside
To stand in the rain and catch cold til you died? .
|by Anonymous||reply 166||September 10, 2020 1:13 AM|
No. What was the episode's allusion? Because if it was simply the word "cousin".....
|by Anonymous||reply 167||September 10, 2020 1:28 AM|
Fucked up season, went off the rails, in a boring way......earlier seasons had such delightful thick plots, not this one, . weak
|by Anonymous||reply 168||September 10, 2020 2:54 AM|
[quote]Tried, but it was just too awful. Very much like the lottery winners series. Short term soaps as opposed to East Enders-length soaps. Can’t sit through ‘em. Characters & plots are too predictable.
I like the main performers, so I'm sticking with it. I agree, it's been predictable, especially the plot with Emila Fox's new BF ending up in bed with some guest at the old woman's party. I saw that coming a mile away. Emila Fox was good in "Slient Witiness", that series was on for one season on BBC America, it never returned. Think Emila is the only remaining original character on that show, the others are gone.
BBC America was so good when it first came on, now its endless repeats of Star Trek and nature shows. Which are fine, if you missed them, but they are endlessly repeated.
"Line of Duty", which has been on AMC, is an excellent cop/detective series. You don't know who the good or bad guys are, it really keeps you guessing, there are so many twists and turns. Keeley Hawes was excellent in it. This series featured some of her best dramatic acting. Currently, I think there are three or four seasons of the series OnDemand on AMC.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||September 10, 2020 6:24 AM|
[quote] Because if it was simply the word "cousin".....
Umm, no it’s not. Johnny was the bad boy who tormented animals & his sister. But almost as an afterthought Endeavor adds “But there was a nasty Cousin Kevin who was even worse...”
No reason to add Cousin Kevin to the mix except as a shout out. The show often references 60s & 70s pop music. She’s Leaving Home (Joan Thursday), Good News candies (Creme Tangerine, Ginger Sling, Pineapple Tart, Coffee Dessert, Savoy Truffle).
They also reference 60s UK & sometimes US movies, tv & literature/events as well. David Nixon, Dont Look Now, Talented Mr Ripley. an idyllic village called "Chigton Green". This name runs together the titles of three animated TV programs for children which were popular on British television in the 1960s: Chigley (1969), Trumpton (1967), and Camberwick Green. We see a Thunderbirds-type kiddy show.
The names of famous science fiction writers are used liberally throughout the series
|by Anonymous||reply 170||September 10, 2020 6:43 AM|
a few seasons had 6 episodes, many had 5....a few had 4
this had 3....wtf???? lazy acors?
|by Anonymous||reply 171||September 10, 2020 9:52 AM|
R170, Um, I was only asking.
BTW, we did the whole "Chigton Green and Wikipedia" thing a while ago.
Not every TV show set in Venice references every movie set in Venice. (OTOH, there was "Death in Venice".....)
And SOR-REE if American viewers in 2020 don't catch all the 1960s British entertainment allusions! Personally, I'm waiting for Endeavour to say "Gear!" And "Fab!" And for Joan to sport some Mary Quant! *sarcasm*
|by Anonymous||reply 172||September 10, 2020 10:21 AM|
"I think there are three or four seasons of the series OnDemand on AMC"
R169 - Line of Duty is also available on AcornTV.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||September 10, 2020 12:30 PM|
[quote]Line of Duty is also available on AcornTV.
I guess Acorn has all the Brit series mentioned here, on one channel? I don't get the point of subscribing to Acorn when you can find most of these Brit series airing on basic cable channels. I have Spectrum, Acorn is considered a premium channel.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||September 10, 2020 7:59 PM|
There are a lot of similarities between series 7 endeavor & Don’t Look Now, R172 & I’m not the only one who thinks so.
“Cinematic references to Don’t Look Now abound, and not just in the use of Venice as a location. The supernatural element is conveyed with a frisson of genuine horror worthy of M. R. James”
There’s a female clairvoyant warning people of danger & murder.
There’s a serial killer on the loose
Accidental deaths & murders takes place near canals (in Venice and Oxford).
A man is murdered by having his throat cut
The color red is associated with female characters & death in both dramas. In Dont Look Now, it’s the red cape of a female child/dwarf. The child dies in her red cape, the dwarf murders in her red cape. In Endeavor, red the color of Violetta’s bedding, curtains, doorway of her apartment, much of her wardrobe & of the opera house.
Also, there are echoes of Dario Argento’s Deep Red in the series.
Kind of a mishmash, like this 7th series itself.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||September 10, 2020 8:47 PM|
That Ludo sure was a genius to pick out all those people to murder in towns that spelled out his name ...managing to get all of them to sell their insurance policies to him .... joining a fundamentalist brotherhood of prayer warriors in order to convince Mrs Bright to sell him her policy so she could go to America for treatment .... How could he know she would survive long enough so he could electrocute her at Christmas?
Why did he need two idiot policemen? That was a bit chancey, don’t you think? He already had Mrs Bright in his power. Bright was a better idiot policeman. He never suspected. Morse, on the other hand, was smart enough to figure out the insurance scheme while Bright refused to believe it when presented with evidence.
Lots of cats, rats & birds....
|by Anonymous||reply 176||September 11, 2020 3:35 AM|
R169 I watched seasons 1-5 of "Line of Duty" on Amazon. The current season is only available on Acorn.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||September 11, 2020 4:45 AM|
Endeavor isn’t on Britbox
|by Anonymous||reply 178||September 11, 2020 4:38 PM|
R178 - See link for Britbox US
|by Anonymous||reply 179||September 11, 2020 5:29 PM|
R178 - Tried to post the Link for Endeavor on Britbox US and was not successful. I guess Muriel does not like Btitbox US.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||September 11, 2020 5:31 PM|
I HAVE Britbox USA. Endeavor is not on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||September 11, 2020 5:38 PM|
R181 - Sorry I just went to Britbox US online and found it.
I know I have it at home some it be on Amazon Prime. I know it is NOT on AcornTV or Netflix.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||September 11, 2020 6:15 PM|
I have Britbox. "Endeavour" is not on it. It is on PBS Masterpiece and Amazon.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||September 11, 2020 8:53 PM|
[quote]Personally, I'm waiting for Endeavour to say "Gear!" And "Fab!" And for Joan to sport some Mary Quant! *sarcasm*
I just finished watching s5/ep3 and thought you might be tickled to know there actually was a Mary Quant reference!
|by Anonymous||reply 184||September 13, 2020 3:31 AM|
R184, I just re-watched, and right you are! Haha!
It's about an hour in, when the boutique owner is being questioned at the police station. He's asked where he's worked and mentions "Mary Quant"!
Good catch of a quick moment!
|by Anonymous||reply 185||September 13, 2020 1:53 PM|
[quote] Sorry I just went to Britbox US online and found it
No you didn’t
I wish there were more episodes. I can’t deal with the subtitled Masterpiece Mysteries. I can’t sit for that long & read. I have things to do - make dinner, clean up, pee, immediately flush solid bits from cat litter, let dog out, let dog in, get texts, get weather alerts, catch spider & put it outside, negotiate with cat how long until next treat/feeding, break up cat/dog disagreement, get distracted by neighbors making too much noise near my property while I’m trying to watch tv, pee again. These shows are too long with no intermission.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||September 14, 2020 1:03 AM|
Stephanie Leonidas is in one episode of the new Masterpiece mystery series 'Van Der Valk". I recognized her immediately. Thankfully, she's using her real accent, no fake Italian femme fatale voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||September 14, 2020 1:28 AM|
R186 - I went to Britbox website and selected "shows". Endeavour was listed. I am sorry if I caused anyone any trouble.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||September 14, 2020 2:36 PM|
R188, How stupid ARE you?!
|by Anonymous||reply 189||September 14, 2020 11:24 PM|
Any favourite episodes? Mine is from season 5, episode 3 Passenger. I knew from the beginning something was amiss. A very satisfying episode.
The first episode I ever watched was from season 2, episode 3 Sway. "Le minou noir" (that was fun!)... I thought the actress playing Luisa, Thursday's former "comrade" in Italy, was excellent. The actress is French, incidentally, Cécile Paoli - although she plays Italian very convingly. She's not well-known in France. And she does Julianne Moore's voice! In the French dubbed versions: Big Lebowski, The Hours... Seriously.
I thought the pilot was excellent.
My favourite season is season five, by a mile.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||September 15, 2020 10:39 AM|
My favorite episode, not for the “mystery” part because the explanation was very bad, but for the ambience was the Gatsby-esque one, the mysterious wealthy guy with the mansion and the parties. It was the season opener after a very traumatic previous season finale and Morse was living in a kind of semi derelict cottage in the woods. All the acting was fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||September 15, 2020 11:55 AM|
R191 I loved that episode too! The atmosphere, and even the character "Bixby"... Opener for season 3. Might be my second favourite.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||September 15, 2020 12:16 PM|
Most stories are extremely convoluted though. I love the art direction and the music.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||September 15, 2020 12:17 PM|
I have just finished season 6, where Morse went undercover, was dumped by his girllfriend, Thursday lost his life savings, George died, and the station closed. I love stories like this and couldn't love anybody more than Mr. Evans at the moment.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||September 15, 2020 12:37 PM|
^^I am bingeing on Prime.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||September 15, 2020 12:38 PM|
The whole arc with the station closing (starting in season 5?) is very good.
Thursday being placed in that untenable position with his brother, and ending up losing his and his wife's lifesavings... I thought that was a particularly poignant situation, and very relatable.
No doubt about it, season 5 is my favourite.
I can't watch season 6 because Morse sports a moustache.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||September 15, 2020 12:44 PM|
Very different, but I've been watching the 4-episode miniseries Fleming, with Dominic Cooper. Very enjoyable. With Anna Chancellor!
|by Anonymous||reply 197||September 15, 2020 12:45 PM|
R194, very dark in that episode. A real turn toward darkness and loss.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||September 15, 2020 12:52 PM|
My issue with George Fancy is that his death drove a lot of motivation for the next two seasons and he had barely been on the show before he was killed off. I could never remember what he looked like or anything he did that was noteworthy. DS Jakes, now I remember him. He was openly antagonistic to Morse and I couldn’t tell if he was bent. Then he had that bizarre send off where he became engaged to the daughter of a wealthy rancher and moved to Canada? the US? to be a cowboy. Him, I remember.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||September 15, 2020 12:54 PM|
Both Jakes and Fancy were hawt skinny boys. Hawter than Morse.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||September 15, 2020 12:57 PM|
I remember both, actually. I thought Fancy was pretty well-made as a character, always putting his foot in his mouth and being told off by Morse, who then ended up himself berated by Thursday for not giving "the young chap a chance" (not a direct quote). I enjoyed Fancy's pretty looks, and his youthful enthusiasm (coupled with real inefficiency/incompetence, typical of inexperience). He was starting to get there, precisely when he was killed. Starting to do things right.
I didn't like Jakes. Leave my boy Morse alone!
|by Anonymous||reply 201||September 15, 2020 12:59 PM|
The actor playing George Fancy had a very pretty face. Lewis Peek, if he ever shows up in anything else.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||September 15, 2020 1:01 PM|
We are given the backstory about Jakes to make him more sympathetic, childhood physical and sexual abuse. He grows more friendly toward Morse as time goes on.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||September 15, 2020 1:07 PM|
He does, but still. I never knew that backstory, must have missed that episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||September 15, 2020 1:09 PM|
Was Jakes one of the orphans in that town councilor pedo plot that ended up with Thursday getting shot? That was the most tense episode. I really was afraid they were killing Thursday off.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||September 15, 2020 1:24 PM|
Any episode featuring the Sheldonian is fine by me.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||September 15, 2020 1:40 PM|
On the trail of Endeavour's Oxford:
|by Anonymous||reply 207||September 15, 2020 1:45 PM|
Yes, Jake was one of the orphans, the youngest. "Little Pete."
|by Anonymous||reply 208||September 15, 2020 1:48 PM|
Right, thanks r208.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||September 15, 2020 2:51 PM|
I’m a lunger
|by Anonymous||reply 210||September 15, 2020 4:57 PM|
We're City Men.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||September 16, 2020 1:44 AM|
I have no idea why Morse is obsessed with my bug-eyed self.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||September 16, 2020 2:58 PM|
Is there any more explanation into the circumstances of Thursday's brother losing the life savings? I'd like to see sweet Thursday get a little retribution and recompense.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||September 17, 2020 1:55 AM|
That was a real left-field story arc, Thursday’s brother. One look at him told you he was a spiv, yet Thursday knew him his whole life but never noticed?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||September 17, 2020 2:28 AM|
I've not watched every episode with rapt attention--so forgive if I missed the obvious. I thought Thursday had some terminal disease and he was resigned to it?
|by Anonymous||reply 215||September 17, 2020 3:40 PM|
R213 Isn't it something like the brother bet money on a scheme, or "invested" as the word goes? Something like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||September 17, 2020 3:49 PM|
Thursday had shrapnel in his lung. There's a scene where he coughs it up.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||September 17, 2020 4:30 PM|
It was a bullet. Don’t know why Thursday didn’t have an X-ray showing the metal in his lung.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||September 17, 2020 5:03 PM|
Thanks...definitely missed the scene where he coughed up a bullet...
|by Anonymous||reply 219||September 17, 2020 5:54 PM|
He coughed it into the sink in the washroom at work
|by Anonymous||reply 220||September 17, 2020 6:01 PM|
R220 - It was a great episode ending scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||September 17, 2020 7:32 PM|
I just watched an episode about an aristocratic fascist, who danced with Hitler at her wedding, somewhat subtly called “Charity Mudford”, heheh.
Also there is a photographer called “Farridge” who was murdered by a racist.
Gotta love Endeavour.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||June 11, 2021 3:22 AM|
R222 - “Charity Mudford” was based on the real life sisters Diane & Unity Mitford. Both Diane & Unity were disgusting fascists.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||June 11, 2021 3:43 PM|
"It was a bullet. Don’t know why Thursday didn’t have an X-ray showing the metal in his lung."
R218 - Thursday did medical treatment but the way the bullet was lodged made it inoperable.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||June 11, 2021 3:45 PM|
I don't want to read through the entire thread because I've just started watching and don't want to get spoiled. (I just finished all of "Inspector Morse."
Is there some reason the pilot episode is not available (except for purchase) on either Britbox or Amazon Prime/PBS? I started watching what they showed as Season 1/Episode 1, but it's actually the SECOND episode ("Girl.")
Another "Morse"-related question -- Britbox shows that Season 1 of "Inspector Lewis" (aka "Lewis") is available, but they only have the first episode. It appears the only other way to watch is to subscribe to yet another service (PBS/Masterpiece.)
|by Anonymous||reply 225||June 11, 2021 4:44 PM|
R225 - I watched the pilot of Endeavour on the PBS app purchased through Amazon Prime about four months ago.
John Light was in it playing a British spy and it was great
|by Anonymous||reply 226||June 11, 2021 5:13 PM|
r226 Yes, but as I said, you had to BUY it. I'm looking for a way to see it for free, since I already subscribe to Amazon Prime AND Britbox. (And Netflix, Disney+, and HBOMax.)
|by Anonymous||reply 227||June 11, 2021 5:16 PM|
"Britbox shows that Season 1 of "Inspector Lewis" (aka "Lewis") is available, but they only have the first episode. It appears the only other way to watch is to subscribe to yet another service (PBS/Masterpiece.)"
R225 - The same thing is true for "Vera" as only half of the seasons are available on BritBox and the other half of the Seasons are available only on AcornTV.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||June 11, 2021 5:16 PM|
I found the pilot on DailyMotion. Not the best quality, and probably no captions, but better than nothing.
I guess I'll give up on "Lewis" for now.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||June 11, 2021 5:34 PM|
R229 - I always have "Closed Caption" on when I watch British shows as I cannot always understand what the actors are saying. This is especially true with "Vera", "Marcella" , "Line of Duty" and sometimes Morse-Lewis-Endeavor.
I love the way the Brits pronounce "St. John"!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 230||June 11, 2021 5:42 PM|
R227 - Sorry! I did not read your full comment.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||June 11, 2021 5:43 PM|
I really hope we meet Morse’s post-Thursday mentor McNutt, as per The Masonic Mysteries. Also I hope we see the Mary Lapsley case as per Second Time Around which featured a Baby Christopher Eccleston, Oliver Ford Davies and an excellent Kenneth Colley.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||June 12, 2021 9:23 PM|
[quote]I love the way the Brits pronounce "St. John"!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 233||June 13, 2021 7:24 PM|
[quote]Fun Fact: Some evidence exists that #Unity_Mitford & #Diana_Mitford arranged orgies for Third Reich's high command.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||June 15, 2021 3:04 AM|
An orgy, maybe. The Third Reich's high command, NO!
|by Anonymous||reply 235||June 15, 2021 12:04 PM|
I've got a question about Inspector Morse's John Shaw - what was wrong with his right leg? He's got a strange prancing gait where he places his foot down oddly on the ball of the foot, as if tiptoeing. Quite distracting once you notice it.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||June 15, 2021 1:25 PM|
John Thaw’s limp is why Endeavour was shot in the first episode of the first season and Max said he may develop a limp in middle age.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||June 21, 2021 9:28 AM|
Ah, I missed that since I watched Endeavour before Inspector Morse. Thanks, R237.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||June 21, 2021 1:03 PM|
I had an intense sex dream about Shaun Evans last night. He had a thick cock and a sensitive pink hole and fucked for hours. Roger Allam watched us go at it through a window.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||June 29, 2021 9:11 AM|
[QUOTE]Roger Allam watched us go at it through a window.
I've been hot for Allam since he did that Radio 4 aviation sitcom with Benedict Cumberbatch. Mr Golden Tonsils.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||June 29, 2021 4:02 PM|
Refresh my memory - who in Endeavour apart from Jim Strange is a Mason? Specifically, is Game Of Thrones' Own Reginald Bright a Mason? I want to figure out who is stealing the evidence.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||July 2, 2021 3:08 PM|
^can’t help you r241 but I just watched an episode with David Oakes as a rich guy called Joss Bixby, who calls everyone “old man”, hangs with gamblers and bought a massive country pile next door to his unhappily married ex whose best friend is a professional female golfer.
It’s almost as shameless as the aforementioned Charity Mudford. Gotta love Endeavour.
I am also told it has references to The Prestige.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||July 2, 2021 4:18 PM|
I love that they use Oxford locations so well. It makes me nostalgic for visiting there.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||July 2, 2021 11:55 PM|
I hate how the producers are trying to make Endeavour and Joan Thursday a thing. Shaun Evans pushed for it. She was a really unlikeable and “come and get me boys!” in the first 4 seasons but more to the point they have no chemistry. I preferred him with Monica or any other the women he’s been with, TBH.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||July 12, 2021 11:07 AM|
my fave tv series. the new season on yet??? hope it goes on for yrs....very well done. altho joan his bosses daughter and the young mans gf, looks like his older aunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||July 12, 2021 3:19 PM|
Best Scripts ive seen in a long time, expertly and lovingly done.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||July 12, 2021 3:22 PM|
I'm almost all caught up! In the past two months, I've finished all of Morse, all of Lewis, and I have only two episodes of Endeavour to go! Then what do I watch?
|by Anonymous||reply 247||July 12, 2021 4:58 PM|
Van Der Valk!
|by Anonymous||reply 248||July 12, 2021 5:05 PM|
luv to see the stars cock and manhole. yumsssss
|by Anonymous||reply 249||July 22, 2021 12:32 PM|
Who has sucked or rimmed the young star?
|by Anonymous||reply 250||July 28, 2021 8:35 PM|
[quote]I'm almost all caught up! In the past two months, I've finished all of Morse, all of Lewis, and I have only two episodes of Endeavour to go! Then what do I watch?
Updating my previous post: I finished Endeavour, and now am now starting on the last season of "Line of Duty" (I finished the first four.) I have also started on "Pie in the Sky," but it seems awfully dated --more so than "A Touch of Frost," which is from roughly the same time.
I've seen all of Midsomer, George Gently, Criminal-UK, all the Agatha Christies, Agatha Raisin, Fr. Brown, DCI Banks, Hetty Wainthropp, Miss Fisher (but not the reboot), Death in Paradise. What next?
|by Anonymous||reply 251||July 28, 2021 10:33 PM|
Forgotten Vera New Tricks The Sweeney (John Thaw's 1st cop show)
|by Anonymous||reply 252||July 28, 2021 11:10 PM|
I enjoyed Thaw in Kavanaugh Q.C. quite a bit.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||July 29, 2021 5:12 AM|
R251 - Shetland! It is on BritBox/Amazon Prime.
The Miss Fisher reboot "Ms. Fisher" is not bad. I have watched many of the same shows you watched and enjoyed them. Like you, I found "Pie in the Sky" dated. I really enjoy Murdoch Mysteries which is still in production.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||July 29, 2021 3:18 PM|
I finished all of "Shetland" and the two new episodes of "Vera." Now I'm watching "The Coroner" (only has two seasons) and "New Tricks," which is fun.
I do have a question for my UK friends: why do so many episodes of these British detective/procedural/mystery shows feature a BASEBALL BAT as a weapon? Is it common for British homes to have one at the ready? I'm surprised they are even sold in the UK--does anyone actually use them for baseball? Wouldn't a cricket bat be more common?
|by Anonymous||reply 255||September 21, 2021 1:50 AM|
Ms. Fisher had to grow on me. It hit his groove in Season 2. I am disappointed that Frankie Drake was cancelled.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||September 21, 2021 2:22 AM|
Joan Thursday was annoying as hell. I preferred the fun nurse.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||September 21, 2021 2:53 AM|
Has anyone in the UK seen the first episode of the new Endeavour season (series in the UK)? I think it is titled "Striker"
|by Anonymous||reply 258||September 21, 2021 12:24 PM|
I like and have watched most of the shows mentioned here. Ashamed to admit that I have seen ALL of Midsomer Murders' 22 seasons (mostly during my covid shutdown). Have to specifically note "Shetland" because ... Doug Henshaw. Unbelievably sexy and not just because of the voice/accent. He was on a Midsomer Murders episode and blew me away (sadly only figuratively) with his performance - sad and intelligent and snarky and emotional, all at once.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||September 21, 2021 4:13 PM|
"Ashamed to admit that I have seen ALL of Midsomer Murders' 22 seasons"
So have I!!!! You need to check out Murdock Mysteries on AcornTV.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||September 21, 2021 5:36 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 261||September 21, 2021 5:38 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 262||September 21, 2021 5:39 PM|
I’ve started the new season of Grantchester. It’s funny how they keep trying to butch up the new guy. Trying to make him into a James Dean/Marlon Brando type. He has a bit of sex appeal but the face just doesn’t scream “Hot!”
|by Anonymous||reply 263||September 21, 2021 5:44 PM|
r260 I saw on another thread that Midsomer Season "22B" is coming out on Acorn on 9/27 (see link.)
No one wants to chime in on my baseball bat question?
|by Anonymous||reply 264||September 21, 2021 5:56 PM|
R264 - Cannot wait to see Midsomer Murders Season 22B!
|by Anonymous||reply 265||September 21, 2021 6:25 PM|
Since Barrington Pheloung died, the music doesn’t have that same, classic Morse feel
|by Anonymous||reply 266||September 22, 2021 6:28 AM|
I didn't know Barrington Pheloung died. Sad. His beautiful and haunting music for Morse and Lewis is what he's known for, but there is much more out there to listen to and enjoy.
While searching Barrington Pheloung I found these tidbits:
(Barrington Pheloung ) "He became known for hiding clues and red herrings in the score for the TV show, occasionally revealing the killer's identity in morse code. The hypnotic title song also included a motif based on the letters M.O.R.S.E."
"John Thaw has the limp which was caused in a car accident when he was a boy and it damaged a nerve causing his foot to drag."
Thought I'd share those.
They're setting us up for Fred Thursday's demise. He does not appear in Morse, and Strange is the CS on Morse.
One last opinion - Anton Lesser is never less than brilliant in any role he is in, but as Chief Superintendent Reginald Bright, he deserves an award.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||September 22, 2021 10:48 AM|
I like Anton Lesser, too
|by Anonymous||reply 268||September 22, 2021 3:12 PM|
I just saw an episode of Morse featuring Simon Callow cast as a lady killer. It should be laughable but he just about pulls it off.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||September 25, 2021 2:03 PM|
Weird how his growing a beard makes him look very different in Vigil.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||September 25, 2021 2:36 PM|
I’ve dreaded the finale of every season of Endeavour because it’s always hinting at killing off Thursday. I don’t think the producers anticipated how popular the show would be or how long the actors would want to continue. It helps that the seasons are very short, almost a miniseries. But they are approaching the time period of the original Morse series. 😬
At first, viewers were thinking Morse never mentioned Thursday due to some scandal. I hope they are past that now and it’s just ‘Morse never mentioned Thursday (shrug)’.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||September 29, 2021 12:22 PM|
GOD I HOPE IT GOES ON FOR MORE SEASONS.....BEST THING ON TEE VEE
|by Anonymous||reply 272||October 1, 2021 8:02 AM|
The joking references to past and current events are fun. Apart from the aforementioned Charity Mudford and Farridge there is a sleazy school employee with a “Make Britain Greater” badge.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||November 30, 2021 6:11 AM|
R273 - Love it when "they" complain about not being admitted to the European Common Market.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||November 30, 2021 11:50 AM|
ANTON RIMS THE STAR?
|by Anonymous||reply 275||January 14, 2022 9:10 AM|
whts the bootleg channel on u tube to watch new episodes of it???
|by Anonymous||reply 276||January 14, 2022 9:13 AM|
Season/Series 8 has not yet aired in the US.
UK DLers who have seen Season/Series 8, is it any good?
|by Anonymous||reply 277||January 20, 2022 3:59 PM|
R277 I thought it was great, as always. It was only three episodes, though.
It was shown here in September so I'm sure you'll get it soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||January 20, 2022 4:36 PM|
R278 - PBS begins airing Season 8 March 2022, I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||January 20, 2022 5:10 PM|
twas on u tube for a bit, got taken down.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||January 22, 2022 7:45 AM|
Holy crap — didn’t recognize Strange. Bit of a weight loss there. And maybe a face tightening? You have to click the link to see Strange’s photo and his new face.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||June 21, 2022 1:36 AM|
I thought Jim Strange looked great!
|by Anonymous||reply 282||June 21, 2022 1:08 PM|
lady who plays joan looks like their older aunt. ..... weird casting
|by Anonymous||reply 283||June 23, 2022 8:47 AM|
Morse's transformation into a bitter alcoholic is complete.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||June 29, 2022 8:45 AM|
Series 8, Episode 2 ("Scherzo") features a gay subplot with two handsome actors, Nicholas Shaw and Joe Gallina.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||June 29, 2022 1:23 PM|
Joan Thursday is kind of creepy. She looks like a puppet…could’ve been a character in the Neighborhood of Make Believe
|by Anonymous||reply 286||June 30, 2022 6:10 PM|
Anton Lesser's daughter Lily is in Endeavour as Ravenna Mackenzie
|by Anonymous||reply 287||June 30, 2022 8:45 PM|
[quote]Morse's transformation into a bitter alcoholic is complete.
Oh, it's just getting started.
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