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Bonnie Franklin does not mean as much to kids today as she did to those even a generation ago

Bonnie Franklin doesn't mean as much to kids today as she did to those even a generation ago I'm an Xer. As a teen in the late 1970s, I loved Bonnie Franklin. Practically all my peers did as well. I suppose I grew up with her because as a child in the 1980s television would play sitcoms from I Love Lucy onward. But even among all the other sitcoms we were exposed to from the 50s on, One Day at a Time stood out - not necessarily the best, but certainly interesting and special.

With Netflix and Hulu streaming emerging in the teens, she dropped off almost immediately from those lofty heights. Of her contemporaries, the jazzy scatting improvisations and brand of kitsch provided by Linda Lavin are more popular. Certainly Mary Tyler Moore is much cooler. Cloris Leachman more experimental. Sandy Duncan and Charlotte Rae joked more hilariously.

Then we move on to the sitcom stars who came of age in the 80s and they are less twee, more weary, more glam. Less of Bonnie's Broadway influence, that's for sure.

I think the reason Bonnie Franklin meant a lot to me in the 70s is that she was available. And still marketable. So cute and witty. Wild in a controlled way. Rebellious in an acceptable way.

The performances stand up. The wisecracks are beautiful, shrillness peerless, slapping startling. She is still hugely influential. But I would say Lucille Ball means more to people younger than me than Bonnie Franklin does. I think Lucy's sexual heat, and Bonnie's relative lackthereof, may be a reason.

I'm just spitballing here. But I am surprised her popularity waned to this extent.

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by Anonymousreply 105October 18, 2022 10:40 PM

huh?

by Anonymousreply 1August 8, 2020 1:13 AM

Dammit, OP!

by Anonymousreply 2August 8, 2020 1:18 AM

I think Bonnie is getting the recognition she deserves.

That is, none at all.

by Anonymousreply 3August 8, 2020 1:19 AM

The dowdy intro is awful

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by Anonymousreply 4August 8, 2020 1:21 AM

I know she’s tapping in heaven right now...

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by Anonymousreply 5August 8, 2020 1:25 AM

She’s no longer a gypsy.

by Anonymousreply 6August 8, 2020 1:28 AM

She was no Ann Miller, that's for sure.

Where was the glamour? Where was the mystique?

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by Anonymousreply 7August 8, 2020 1:32 AM

OP, get with it! The new crop of LGBTQIA kids are totes into Marilu Henner and TAXI!

They groove on Elaine Nardo's aspirational late-disco era New Yawk glamour stylings and camp bitchiness. They have all her better routines committed to memory and are doing Tik-Tok homage mash-ups even as I type.

by Anonymousreply 8August 8, 2020 1:34 AM

“Hold me David, I’m scared!”

by Anonymousreply 9August 8, 2020 1:34 AM

She’s wearing suspenders to keep her saggy tits from flopping around

by Anonymousreply 10August 8, 2020 1:34 AM

This seriously cracked me up - good one, OP

by Anonymousreply 11August 8, 2020 1:36 AM

If you truly loved her OP you’d buy this sweater.

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by Anonymousreply 12August 8, 2020 1:37 AM

Her costars remember her fondly.

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by Anonymousreply 13August 8, 2020 2:01 AM

R12 here she is wearing that sweater with no bra

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by Anonymousreply 14August 8, 2020 2:02 AM

She looked like Mason Reese.

Not a compliment.

by Anonymousreply 15August 8, 2020 2:11 AM

Bonnie Franklin was one of the luckiest moderate talents in the history of show Biz.

by Anonymousreply 16August 8, 2020 2:27 AM

Oooohhh myyyyy goodddd!

by Anonymousreply 17August 8, 2020 2:35 AM
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by Anonymousreply 18August 8, 2020 2:35 AM

She did it for...applause, applause! Cavorting around the stage in her striped bell-bottoms!

(The pic OP used makes me LOL.)

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by Anonymousreply 19August 8, 2020 2:37 AM

SHUT your LYIN' hooker MOUTH. OP!

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by Anonymousreply 20August 8, 2020 2:40 AM

I was just thinking about this the other day when I was sitting on the toilet constipated.

by Anonymousreply 21August 8, 2020 2:42 AM

How come the mushroom haircut never came back in?

by Anonymousreply 22August 8, 2020 2:45 AM

Clearly, DL has not done enough. Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.

by Anonymousreply 23August 8, 2020 2:49 AM

r19 Hard to believe, but she got a Tony nomination for that travesty.

by Anonymousreply 24August 8, 2020 3:05 AM

Well I never in all my life.

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by Anonymousreply 25August 8, 2020 3:14 AM

I'm a Gen X'er and Bonnie meant shit to me.

Joan Van Ark, however...

by Anonymousreply 26August 8, 2020 3:24 AM

Its too stupid to even bother voting.

Bonnie Franklin means nothing to anyone with even minimal intelligence.

OP types OLD

by Anonymousreply 27August 8, 2020 3:27 AM

R25 that photo of Bonnie rocking a Joe Dirt wig is epic

by Anonymousreply 28August 8, 2020 6:53 AM

Hey OP, fuck you for the idiotic way you have of asking a poll question. It’s not even a question with all the added on info.

by Anonymousreply 29August 8, 2020 6:58 AM

If Bonnie were here, she'd slap the hell out of OP.

by Anonymousreply 30August 8, 2020 7:00 AM

Dammit DL!!!

by Anonymousreply 31August 8, 2020 7:06 AM

No idea who that is.

by Anonymousreply 32August 8, 2020 7:09 AM

Get out, r32.

by Anonymousreply 33August 8, 2020 7:12 AM

Her show must’ve lasted nine years due to sheer force of will.

by Anonymousreply 34August 8, 2020 7:21 AM

Is she like a Bonnie Raitt? Bonnie Hunt? Is there anyone under 50 named Bonnie?

by Anonymousreply 35August 8, 2020 7:26 AM

Me!

by Anonymousreply 36August 8, 2020 7:31 AM

Schneider, DAMMMIT!!

Julie, DAMMMIT!!!

by Anonymousreply 37August 8, 2020 10:33 PM

Dammit!

by Anonymousreply 38August 11, 2020 9:35 AM

She reakly set the stage for acceptance of divorced mothers from Logansport through her critical work.

Think of where we'd be without it.

by Anonymousreply 39August 11, 2020 9:53 AM

This thread is a parody of that Beatles post/poll isn't it?

It's quite clever OP. Nicely done. Not sure how many others have picked it up.

by Anonymousreply 40August 11, 2020 10:33 AM

The show sucked when it aired and it doesn’t wear well now.

by Anonymousreply 41August 11, 2020 11:21 AM

She's no Linda Lavin.

by Anonymousreply 42August 12, 2020 10:14 AM

The worst episode had to be the one where she turned thirty-six. It was obviously written as Emmy-bait; and her performance was hammy and contrived. The second consisted mostly of Ann giving an interminable monologue to the mirror, so lengthy it’s unimaginable today, while she had locked herself in her bedroom.

by Anonymousreply 43August 12, 2020 5:22 PM

What is significant about 36 compared to 37 or 38? Seems random.

by Anonymousreply 44August 12, 2020 5:28 PM

‘Over 35’ was considered more of a landmark term in the ‘70s.

by Anonymousreply 45August 12, 2020 5:33 PM

Ah ok. It just seemed like a strange number.

by Anonymousreply 46August 12, 2020 5:34 PM

I think Bonnie lost interest in ODAAT as it ran on. During the early seasons she was constantly haranguing the producers to write more dramatic Very Special Episodes for her; there were fewer of those in the later seasons.

Interestingly, many fans seem to enjoy the final season.

by Anonymousreply 47August 12, 2020 5:39 PM

Is it normal for tap dancers to die before the age of 70?

by Anonymousreply 48August 12, 2020 5:47 PM

She got pancreatic cancer. Which is a death sentence.

Her mother outlived her and died only a few years ago at 103.

by Anonymousreply 49August 12, 2020 5:49 PM

She hated exercising (and wearing a bra) but loved to tap.

by Anonymousreply 50August 12, 2020 6:08 PM

She was one of the most annoying actresses in television history. Why she got the lead in a sitcom, of all things, is bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 51August 12, 2020 6:11 PM

You don’t think Linda Lavin was more annoying?

by Anonymousreply 52August 12, 2020 6:13 PM

[quote] Her mother outlived her

As did her sister Connie.

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by Anonymousreply 53August 12, 2020 6:17 PM

Linda Lavin had a more annoying voice than Bonnie Franklin, certainly. But although the character of Alice Hyatt may have been a bit of a weenie, she was basically a nice person, and her character made sense. Ann Romano's character was deeply annoying, and she made no sense. Why was she so angry all the time and yelling at her daughters when it just made her relations with them worse? Why did she get a nice job in advertising with no background or skills, and yet never move out of that crappy apartment with the sleazy superintendent lingering around her teenage daughters all the time? Why did she take up all that space in the huge alcove with hanging plants? Why was she on a sitcom and yet never delivered a single joke?

by Anonymousreply 54August 12, 2020 6:20 PM

The problems with ODAAT then and now begin and end with Norman Lear's closet misogyny.

by Anonymousreply 55August 12, 2020 6:21 PM

OP, I find your notion bizarre and inconceivable.

by Anonymousreply 56August 12, 2020 6:23 PM

OP. I am not sure if your post is the summary of a Phd Thesis or you need to go outside and talk a walk see the world outside of DL for at least a quarter of an hour.

by Anonymousreply 57August 12, 2020 6:28 PM

Did Schneider ever diddle with either of the daughters or did he just use his pass key to come in while they were at school sniff their panties and wank off in their beds?

by Anonymousreply 58August 12, 2020 6:32 PM

^^Probably both.

by Anonymousreply 59August 12, 2020 6:39 PM

For r56 and r57:

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by Anonymousreply 60August 12, 2020 6:41 PM

I was the first to say "this is it!" They owe me royalties.

by Anonymousreply 61August 12, 2020 6:44 PM

I wish Linda and Bonnie had performed together:. Linda Sings/Bonnie Taps. It would be an hour of show tunes with Linda at the piano - and a single spotlight with Bonnie tapping away to each song tediously sung by Ms Lavin.

by Anonymousreply 62August 12, 2020 6:44 PM

Mary Louise Wilson hated ODAAT and Bonnie Franklin so much she asked to be released from her contract.

by Anonymousreply 63August 12, 2020 6:45 PM

Linda coud turn "Tap Your Troubles Away" into a slow-paced torch song.

by Anonymousreply 64August 12, 2020 6:46 PM

I think Bonnie cunted her off the show

by Anonymousreply 65August 12, 2020 6:46 PM

Linda and Bonnie In an homage to Lady Day in:

Lady Taps The Blues

by Anonymousreply 66August 12, 2020 6:48 PM

I'd rather take my chances with either of them than sit through anything Judith Light is in. Talk about overrated.

by Anonymousreply 67August 12, 2020 6:49 PM

Thanks to DL, "fried egg titties" entered my vocabulary.

by Anonymousreply 68August 12, 2020 6:51 PM

We just want to clarify that our product does not smell like her when not washed.

by Anonymousreply 69August 12, 2020 6:51 PM

Her middle name was Gail.

by Anonymousreply 70August 12, 2020 6:54 PM

R60, yes, I know. I thought my reaction was over-the-top enough to make it clear that I was playing along with the joke.

by Anonymousreply 71August 12, 2020 7:35 PM

[quote]Why was she so angry all the time and yelling at her daughters when it just made her relations with them worse?

DAMNIT R54!!! I'M THIRTY FIVE YEARS OLD AND DIVORCED WITH TWO DAUGHTERS!!! DAMNIT!!!

by Anonymousreply 72August 21, 2020 9:43 PM

Bonnie does Shirley Valentine!

In a British/Irish accent!

It's a shame she didn't do more theater.

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by Anonymousreply 73April 8, 2021 10:05 PM

Bonnie was one of the most wannabe triple threats ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she had a good 'dammit!', which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with her struggles and she theirs.

by Anonymousreply 74April 8, 2021 10:07 PM

I often remember Bonnie as the poor man's me. Of course, for many reasons I am in a position to do that, not least of which is that I'm alive.

by Anonymousreply 75April 8, 2021 10:08 PM

I love R3

by Anonymousreply 76April 8, 2021 10:11 PM

[quote] How come the mushroom haircut never came back in?

The only reason it was the thing was because the recession made haircuts more expensive along with everything else.

by Anonymousreply 77April 8, 2021 10:12 PM

[quote] Hey OP, fuck you for the idiotic way you have of asking a poll question. It’s not even a question with all the added on info.

This was a parody of another post from the time this was first posted, you blithering gormless idiot. It was obviously not meant to be a real poll.

by Anonymousreply 78April 8, 2021 10:12 PM

She didn’t mean a thing to me. Then, or now.

by Anonymousreply 79April 8, 2021 10:12 PM

This is the original thread this thread parodied.

Look at the wording of the poll question.

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by Anonymousreply 80April 8, 2021 10:15 PM

She means much more to me than the eternally overrated Judith Lightweight.

by Anonymousreply 81April 8, 2021 10:18 PM

Even as I was cracking up at this post, which for some reason I missed last year, I knew this had to be a parody of something, so thanks to R40, R78, R80 and everyone else. I do recall the original, but the parody is hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 82April 8, 2021 10:23 PM

So long as she didn't sing, I could tolerate her.

by Anonymousreply 83April 9, 2021 12:27 AM

OP, I would love if you started more threads.

by Anonymousreply 84April 9, 2021 12:44 AM

We all aspired to be Ann Romano, back in that golden age. Some gaylings even got the mushroom head.

by Anonymousreply 85December 22, 2021 12:35 PM

Nancy Dussault stole her thunder.

by Anonymousreply 86December 22, 2021 12:55 PM

Mrs. Garrett was a better role model. At least she wasn't in a state of blind rage all the time.

by Anonymousreply 87December 22, 2021 12:57 PM

A gift for you

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by Anonymousreply 88December 22, 2021 1:29 PM

Did she ever mean much?

by Anonymousreply 89December 22, 2021 3:37 PM

How was Hal in The Rothschilds?

by Anonymousreply 90December 22, 2021 10:10 PM
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by Anonymousreply 91December 23, 2021 11:20 AM

After Bonnie's performance of Applause on the Tonys, didn't most Americans forget the Beatles and became rabid Bonnie Franklin fans?

by Anonymousreply 92December 23, 2021 11:21 AM
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by Anonymousreply 93December 23, 2021 11:29 AM
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by Anonymousreply 94December 23, 2021 11:39 AM

It is a good thing DLers have such great memories

by Anonymousreply 95December 23, 2021 11:42 AM

I think most Millenials and Gen Z are aware of ODAAT.

by Anonymousreply 96December 23, 2021 1:00 PM

I remember reading an interview with Norman Lear shortly after Franklin passed away. He said back in 1977, he had written a script that had 'Ann Romano' alone in her apartment, ready to go to a 36th birthday party being given for her at a restaurant by her daughters, when a rapist breaks into the apartment and attempts to rape her. It was to be a two-part episode and in the second episode she manages to escape him unharmed. Franklin loved the idea - thought it would be perfect for her character and really tell a story to the fans of the show.

At the same time, he wrote a script for Edith Bunker's 50th birthday, where Edith locks herself in her bedroom and doesn't want to come out to the party her daughter and son-in-law are having for her - contemplating on what she had done in her life for the past 50 years, and what the future held for her now that she was an 'old lady'.

Somewhere along the lines, before production started on the episodes, it was suggested the scripts get switched - ODAT would have the birthday girl locked in her room, and AITF would have the attempted rape. The idea was that fans would be more disturbed yet have more compassion for the sweet 'Edith Bunker' than 'Ann Romano'. Not sure who suggested the switch (he never said) but it seemed to work out for the best.

by Anonymousreply 97October 17, 2022 2:40 AM

I was born in 69 and she held no interest among anyone I knew. The show had some fans but no one ever singled her out. It was all about Valerie Bertanelli.

by Anonymousreply 98October 17, 2022 3:06 AM

Yeah she was made out to be some big feminist hero. She was ok.

by Anonymousreply 99October 17, 2022 3:11 AM

In 1980 the only name bigger than Bonnie Franklin was Terri Gibbs.

by Anonymousreply 100October 17, 2022 3:27 AM

Kathleen Beller was a huge star, too !

by Anonymousreply 101October 18, 2022 5:05 PM

I'm Gen X and was 7 years old when the show debuted. We watched the show more for the characters of Julie and Barbara. Most kids I knew could not stand Bonnie Franklin as Ann Romano. We'd always laugh that they tried to present Ann as some sexy lady and Julie as some hot teen when Valerie Bertinelli was the only attractive woman on the show. I watched an old episode a few months ago and had the same reaction.

by Anonymousreply 102October 18, 2022 5:26 PM

The few times I watched ODAAT, the superintendent character played by Pat Harrington, always tapped danced on my last nerve.

by Anonymousreply 103October 18, 2022 5:40 PM

Bonnie got to kiss a lot of guest stars. Bonnie got to slap a lot of people. She lived a full life.

by Anonymousreply 104October 18, 2022 10:01 PM

OP Does you Does an Does Idiot?

by Anonymousreply 105October 18, 2022 10:40 PM
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