Is there a shift in DL culture ?

Adorable Dan Levy show? F U, OP. A majority find that show repulsive and Danny to be the ugliest turd alive.

Frenchie, you are fucking annoying.

R1 I don't think so. Personally I've discovered him here on DL, thanks to the numerous threads about him and/or the show, and most people find him HOT and talented.

R2 no I'm not dear. I am generally perceived to be sexy and charming. Now, enough with the insults, back to the topic please.

Not sure. I have not seen any drastic shift in DL culture .

May be some of very elder gays have died due to old age or corona so there may be slight less threads about those actresses and singer of 1930s.40s

Looks like you’re not looking for a gay discussion board and instead just pictures of hot guys. Try Reddit.

Wow R5... That's dry. Well at least there's a silver lining to the covid crises then. Because THAT was fucking annoying. I am sure most gay men care more about pictures of ' hot daddies in porn' than' 'lucy conquers broadway-1947'. I know I do...

I'm not seeing all the threads about hot guys!

Or more likely, DLers are sex starved and thirsty in quarantine.

Possibly R9. R6 thanks for the tip but I need to practice my english and also many posters are hilarious and I find myself LOL a lot on this site. Some people here are REALLY witty.

[quote]Looks like you’re not looking for a gay discussion board and instead just pictures of hot guys. Try Reddit.

Exactely. Those threads are just pictures and people who can't think of anything else to post than 'he's hot' or 'YUM'

[quote]Is there a shift in DL culture ?

Just the Metamucil kicking in.

Like R12 for instance. Thanks R12

I haven't noticed a substantial difference recently, no. But I think a younger demographic has been slowly infiltrating for at least a few years now, and the veterans are sadly starting to die off.

I'm not sure what brings younger gays here though, when we should be a relatively uncool board, particularly for the under 30 crowd.

And I hate to break it to you but the vast majority of the REALLY witty posters you speak of are most likely the older ones who you're complaining about. The horny twinks generally stick to tired stan twitter lingo, a couple of emojis, and call it a day.

[quote]Not sure. I have not seen any drastic shift in DL culture .

Same. There are still plenty of the threads OP dislikes, and no noticeable uptick in the porn level. Maybe OP just got new glasses.

[quote]And I hate to break it to you but the vast majority of the REALLY witty posters you speak of are most likely the older ones who you're complaining about.

This is true. Without the elders of DL, it would be just another board. Wishing them dead is vile.

[quote]Is there a shift in DL culture ?

Maybe I've been here too long, but the words DL and culture are not words I would think of putting together.

R14 that May be a valid point, but I didn't criticized posters for their age, but their internalized homophobia. Humour and wit are qualities that are mostly inborn, I don't see why younger people wouldn't be funny, and I find this board very cool ans well informed. I always catch the news here first.

I have not noticed a shift and I certainly don’t think what’s happening on DL reflects any kind of broader shift in American culture (which would hardly be apparent in a matter of a few months).

You seem really dumb and have yet to post anything worth reading ; sorry you “joined” so we’ll all get to hear you bitch when you feel you’re not getting your dollar a month’s worth.

Didn't criticize sorry. Autocorrect.

I just don’t understand all the Golden Girls and Froy and Madden threads. I mean, what else is there to say on these subjects that haven’t been said over and over again. A nekid behind is a refreshing change for me.

R18, that post doesn't reflect well on you. You can do better, I'm sure. Bitterness and nastiness not a good look.

Frenchie, I'm so glad you're here to let all know the errors of our ways. We were lost but now we are found!

r20 Oh, eldergays aren't the ones shitting up the board with those Froy and Madden threads. It's a mixture of obsessed twinks and fanfraus.

And well... the fraus are a completely different ballgame.

R22 I 've been to the states once, and it was NYC, but reading DL these past few years, one would have thought that gay men were the people who were attracted to bedridden ladies. I just thought it was cool to see a change.

I assumed that a certain number of them were posted by the naked men and/or their minders. Like the "hot doctors" and cowboys and that shit. Promotional posts.

I’ll be sure to take your advice when I decide my “look” on an anonymous message board is of any importance whatsoever, Frenchie.

R20, the endless fascination with Golden Girls and Lucy is a mystery to me, but god knows it shows no sign of dissipating.

If there is any change it is a bit more of the usual ageism and a whole bunch of masc 4 masc tools.

This reeks of a.

I'm not interested in coming here for pics. I like the discussions of old Hollywood. It's called being a varied and interesting person.

R26 that 's more pleasant. Just because it's anonymous doesn't mean gratuituous insults are required. That's another side of DL that needs to be adressed.

Don’t be idiots. New poster, loves to come on and antagonize the older set. Likes to point out things that older people (he is actually one of those “older” people himself) do. Hits the regular DL trigger points.

He is not your friend.

The only shift here is most of the paying people who can start threads aren’t gay and are right-wing or Russian trolls.

Block and ignore.

I don’t see much of a shift to be honest. Most of these threads are about failed actors/actresses and what age did you give up trying to find love.

The younger ones always want to come in and renovate and rearrange the furniture, regardless of who is already there.

R29 a little bit of old Hollywood is nice, but I would find it a bit weird if we had 1 gay board in France that were 98% filled with Édith Piaf, Michèle Morgan and Suzy Delair. Besides, I would have thought that ' Old Hollywood ' now refers to Dunaway /fonda/Farrow...

The wit here used to be off the charts. Laugh out loud funny quips and stories.

It is nothing like that anymore.

OP, there's definitely been a shift to include more political threads which is a refreshing change. I have to laugh at your indignation at some of the snarky comments aimed at you. Snarkiness, sarcasm, and bitchiness are the hallmark of this site! Defending yourself with anything but a witty comeback is a sign of weakness.

Fuck off, Frenchie at r30. As I noted before, you are a moron who has yet to contribute anything of value, so I hardly think anyone cares about your opinion on gratuitous insults—or anything else for that matter.

Frenchie's faux naïveté is very telling for someone who claims to have been here for years.

Yes R37. I've been here since almost the start and it was rapid fire back then. Tons of truly hilarious posts and fun posters. Blue Agave, Magdalene, Shinjuku baby,....I even miss the David Ehrenstein and Stewart Swerdlow types just for giggles.

Give it a rest, Jacques.

[quote] I am generally perceived to be sexy and charming.

Could have fooled me.

R38 yes I have noticed all the political threads, they are mostly very interesting. I can't comment on them because as I said, I have just visited the US once, and what we perceive of the situation here is probably deformed and lost in translation. Our political systems are vastly different. (I don't mean to defend myself against anonymous cowardice, especially with a ' witty' comeback)

I like a nice combination of old people topics and hot naked man sluts. If anything DL has become more political than ever because of the times we have been in in the past several years. I like politics but sometimes its too much, and a lot of people here are completely out of touch. The site used to be more about celebrity gossip, but DL rarely spills tea on young celebrities anymore because people here got old. I like Ben Affleck, but he was hot like 20 years ago.

America here — thanks for inquiring, OP. I’ve definitely changed. I’m all up in the HOT men with HOT bods & completely ignoring old people subjects. They are dying of covid, so I’m no longer allowing their remnants to try & have an influence on society. The good old days of white male supremacy are gone.

[quote]the endless fascination with Golden Girls and Lucy is a mystery to me, but god knows it shows no sign of dissipating.

Oh, it'll die out (for want of a better phrase).

I thought the French were supposed to be charming.

OH OH....someone is TRIGGERED. How do you think YOUR contribution is worth reading, freak ?

Posts by ignored poster 3 Is there a shift in DL culture ? I have not noticed a shift and I certainly don’t think what’s happening on DL reflects any kind of broader shift in American culture (which would hardly be apparent in a matter of a few months).

You seem really dumb and have yet to post anything worth reading ; sorry you “joined” so we’ll all get to hear you bitch when you feel you’re not getting your dollar a month’s worth. I’ll be sure to take your advice when I decide my “look” on an anonymous message board is of any importance whatsoever, Frenchie. R20, the endless fascination with Golden Girls and Lucy is a mystery to me, but god knows it shows no sign of dissipating. Fuck off, Frenchie at r30. As I noted before, you are a moron who has yet to contribute anything of value, so I hardly think anyone cares about your opinion on gratuitous insults—or anything else for that matter.

Flesh has always been part of DL culture - American culture too, for that matter.

You can have a great time at DL if you know how to navigate it.

I mean, anyone can look at comments with a critical eye and decide for themselves whether a comment (even a pointless bitchy one) contributes to the thread or tries to sabotage the discussion by steering it into a totally different direction or just plain shits on the topic and / or the comments trying to kill the discussion. And for that case DL has the great ignore feature where you can put a poster ID on ignore.

"Golden Girls." Lucy. Vivian Vance! "We Bought A Zoo!"

Colton Haynes. Armie Hammer. Henry Cavill. And most especially, lately, Richard Fucking Madden and Froy Cocksucking Gutierrez, whoever THEY are.

Each and every one of them about as relevant / interesting as a hangnail. And yet, they're all that some of the pathetic dipshits who post here can post about. And do.

Zat Frencheee! Hee eez - how you say - a shallow, compleeet EEEDEEEUHT, no?

Frenchie, re R49, your sangfroid appears to be sagging.

People always bitch about what they don't like.....

Then don't read the thread, you fat whore!!!

Pay for access and create the threads you want to see! But don't cry that every thread you cast your eyes upon is not perfectly to your liking and does not meet your every whim. Nobody has time for that shit.

Again.. My post wasn't a critic of old people, I don't see why younger people wouldn't like Bette Davis, Vivien Leigh or Natalie Wood, they were good actresses and obviously the world loved them, and on the other end I am sure eldergays appreciate a bubble butt as much as gen Z's. As for ' Richard and Froy', I have no idea who they are and I don't feel that I am missing much. It's just the general tone of the board that I find less stable, sexier and more assuming.

Less stale. Again autocorrect. To all the posters who are melting down over my post and telling me to stop bitching about what's not to my taste... Self awareness much ?

[quote]OP, there's definitely been a shift to include more political threads which is a refreshing change.

"More political threads" is the opposite of "a refreshing change." You type "posts incessant Trumpics."

One of the oddest things about DL, Frenchie, though it's what makes it so charming, is that many of the Eldergays don't seem to realize that the trip they took to Rome in 1974 happened almost 50 years ago.

Their endless obsessions with status and class are also deeply rooted in the social mores of midcentury America and the 100% do not get that it would be like discussing the social mores of the Roaring 20s during the 1980s. ("Rich college boys ALWAYS sport raccoon coats")

But again, that's what makes DL so charming.

I have not noticed any actual let up in Golden Girls threads--the fact that Eldergays can remember minute details of TV shows and movies they have not seen in 30 or 40 years is astounding.

Similarly, no real let up in Obsessed Fan Frau threads -- William O'Connor, an obscure travel editor for a website, is still going strong.

And food threads of the sort you'd find on a Mommy blog "What's your special light and delicious summer meal?" remain a DL favorite, as I assume for many, food has replaced sex.

Plus ça change, mon ami....

Wouldn't the Richard and Froy threads be part of the younger demographic though? Some people consider them hot guys. I guess it's like the "Prancing Pony" threads that we had aeons ago.

[quote] I am generally perceived to be sexy and charming.

I hate deluded narcissists like this.

[quote]I am generally perceived to be sexy and charming.

I'd need to see the data.

R58 Voilà ! That is a very interesting post and explanation about American gay culture. Thank you. I didn't realize that most values discussed here are mid-century middle class values. It's like the thread count on sheets... These threads are particularly disturbing. Why would gay men be obsessed by the thread count in their sheets ? It seems so odd

"DL used to be better"

and

"DL just needs me to make it better"

are the two most dog eared, worn messages in the history of ever.

Frenchie: I think the advent on endless NAKED Insta HUNKS is the least interesting thing to ever happen to DL.

Those threads manage to be even more boring than the millionth Golden Girls thread.

They do have Golden Girls on the interweb tubes, R58.

[quote]To all the posters who are melting down over my post and telling me to stop bitching about what's not to my taste... Self awareness much ?

Classic. I can say what [italic]I[/italic] like but unless you agree, you are wrong. So typical.

r58 You forgot to bitch about us Oh, Dears failing to recognize typos as the new, cellphone norm, OurMillennialCuntslice. Do Keep Up!

R67 I find the ' Oh dear's funny.

[quote] OH OH....someone is TRIGGERED.

Yup, you.

[quote] How do you think YOUR contribution is worth reading, freak?

LOL, most of the time, I don't. I post here because I'm bored and have some to kill, not because I've deluded myself that I'm guiding the other posters out of the 80s television wilderness or some shit.

^ Time to kill.

So Frenchie, what do French/European gay men talk about online? What are considered bourgeoisie values there?

Bourgeois values, R71. Spell check won't save you there...

I am delighted that the TASTEFUL FRIENDS threads have popped up again with great homes to be picked apart. Maybe the same thing can happen with the NY Social Diary threads when the high society of melting faces will gather again after Covid-19?

I love the NY social diary threads

All I am saying is that, even though it's great to have access to a board like this one, it seems to me that until a few years ago, you guys were better accepted , or less marginalized and oppressed , if you pretended that sex is disgusting, that the naked male body is gross, and that you actually prefer to focus on your exquisite sensibility and pretend to adore some cross-eyed hag who belts ' cats' and' ' rainbow whatnot' ' over the hills, to the point that some of you are really convinced that they actually find male parts gross, and that they can' t live without ' lucy at carnegie hall- the rage of 1952'. And I find it sad and unhealthy. There's is a real difference visible on DL and I for one have noticed. It's a good thing.

I will take any opportunity to post about Miss Patricia Neal, winner of the first Tony award for Best Actress, winner of an Oscar, opposite Paul Newman in Hud. Bedded Gary Cooper when he was hot, married the terrible but talented Roald Dahl. Gorgeous!

I'm already tired of this bitch.

Stop trying to be a fucking Cruise Director. And you'll hate this, but you are NO Julie. Except maybe Julie from Billing.

Or there are four porn trolls, either way, R75. Four butthole pics a day does not a summer make.

This queen is a troll. Ignore it. Read its posts on other threads. Look at its mean-spirited, directed and blatant thread opener here.

It's a waste of time.

Oh, and how impressive the cunt finally plunked down its tiny bit of coin so it can spread its bullshit even broader.

R80 she'll be banned in a week

Can’t believe y’all are Falling for this. An antagonizer who ridicules subjects he considers favs of the elder gays, yet constantly exposing himself as the oldest and most out of touch here.

What a pal.

Most of my friends Under 30 not only know about, but commonly obsess over thread count - even the bro’s. Add that to the new profile and you have an out of touch poser trying to project all his insecurities and shame on the board. Again.

Pretend your black next time. Or Asian. Just quit trying to play young. You don’t have the chops for it.

Okay you win. You're still a bunch of old farts, completely out of touch, who's best effort at contribution to a gay board is ' at what age did you give up on love'. Bravo.

Qui est cette cunt?

[quote] Most of my friends Under 30 not only know about, but commonly obsess over thread count - even the bro’s

How often are you all buying sheets?

R85 let it go, it's too ridiculous. ' even bros are obsessed with thread count'. RMAOTFLOL

I wanna theee loths and loths of cockths

[quote]The Patricia Neal Troll (now & forever)

Or at least until you're dead.

Crappy sheets can also have high thread count. There are other considerations. Also, yeah gimme some stinky butthole munching dingleberry moustache wearing ass lunch, boo yah!

Martha Stewart says you never need to go above 300 to get good soft sheets. And that old bitch has done time but doesn't speak French.

R20 Scientists have discovered that if the aids didn't kill ya, you'll spend the rest of your life going on and on about a horribly written series from 35 years ago with only one real star. Blame it on the aids.

Did your mother drop you on your head, R91?

r72, that is what my spell check corrected it to. "Merica!

R92 watch some more GGs, fuckhead.

That's my point, R93. Right spelling, wrong usage, comrade.

Op go jump in a toilet!

Go fuck off with your AIDS jokes, R94. DL doesn't want you.

I'm sorry, doesn't bourgeoise mean middle class? Because we were talking about American middle class values.

No, no, no, the point is that you were using a noun in the place of an adjective. Oh dear, etc.

As for definition, it technically means the capitalist class (as in Burg, urban mercantile types, originally), as against feudal types. It means middle class, but more the kind who attend the opera than the ones who stream it.

Really there are just rentiers and working class (wage earners) and capitalists (bourgeoisie). Middle class just makes people feel better even though they don't rate pensions anymore.

[quote] Scientists have discovered that if the aids didn't kill ya, you'll spend the rest of your life going on and on about a horribly written series from 35 years ago with only one real star. Blame it on the aids.

Or one could say that discussing Golden Girls prevents you from receiving a deadly STD and makes you live longer?

It's a known fact that owning a Golden Girls VHS boxset prevents HIV transmission.

R76. Sorry to break it to you, but Neal won Best FEATURED Actresd—Ingrid Bergman and Helen Hayes were the first winners of Best Actress.

(And I love Neal, but accuracy does count!)

The bourgeoisie are the people who have bourgeois values, r98.

Anyone calling people who use the ignore button fascists is a troll. No surprise I already had this one on ignore a long time ago. Only trolls care about being put on ignore.

Dan Levy's PR team must be on DL. Its a good platform for an out gay actor, I'll give them that. None find him hot and adorable otherwise.

R94 is a giant piece of shit.

Hmm, I had R94 on ignore already.

This has been one of the most active eldergay threads here for a couple of days. Is this the "wit" you all miss so dearly?

Love ya, Frenchie.

Re - thread count

Honestly, the thread count issue came out when I offered to buy some sheets for a FB who had just moved out from his boyfriend. I was kinda surprised when he asked for a very high thread count.

I brought it up in a group setting (not him, but the thread count) and was surprised by how many of the younger guys not only knew what it was, but also that real high ones were a ripoff. I don’t think I knew from thread count till later in life. But if your go to source for goods is amazon, I guess you have better product awareness.

Obvious troll post, probably meant to bring out the psychopath Dan Levy Hater Stalker with his 1000 sockpuppets. Sadly the "die of aids" troll also found the place.

Then again, knowing the psychos we get on here, they could both be the same person.

Well R113 the fact than Dan Levy is celebrated on DL IS in itself a cultural revolution. A young, handsome, successful out gay man gets some love on DL ? Groundbreaking !