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Why did Topher Grace's career go straight down the shitter?

Did he really date Ivanka?

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by Anonymousreply 10210 hours ago

Did it? I saw him as David Duke in Black Klansman not long ago.

by Anonymousreply 1Last Saturday at 8:20 AM

Why kind of name is Topher?

by Anonymousreply 2Last Saturday at 8:21 AM

ChrisTopher.

by Anonymousreply 3Last Saturday at 8:21 AM

He can always get a good steady job at Fatso Burger.

by Anonymousreply 4Last Saturday at 8:22 AM

I’m sure he’s mellowed out but he definitely thought he was hot shit in the mid-2000s

by Anonymousreply 5Last Saturday at 8:24 AM

it's very difficult for men with boyish faces to last long term in that industry. they can't exactly portray Big Man in Authoritah while looking like a 14y.o.

there are too many examples to name, but think about all of these "young" men who have looked like children more than half of their lives.

the only one i can think of who has been able to run with it is mr. doogie howser.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Saturday at 8:29 AM

He HAS lasted long term.

He's actually the kind of actor who may do his most high profile work after age 45. He could clean up playing nemesis type characters, like the principal in a Ferris Bueller remake.

by Anonymousreply 7Last Saturday at 8:31 AM

Timmy did it right. Let the audiences worship your lithe, beauty in a dreamy, (what was) indie film. Then you are seared into the public’s eye as a sex object, eternally youthful and elegant.

Topher just tried to be a wise guy in shitty comedies, thrillers and horror films. He’s never been elegant a day in his life. He probably turned down or ignored hundreds of gay roles.

by Anonymousreply 8Last Saturday at 8:44 AM

R8 true, Topher I believe is gay or bi. He always turned away gay roles for Aspie cool guy roles.

by Anonymousreply 9Last Saturday at 8:45 AM

Topher Grace does not project sex. I don't know why you'd compare him to someone like Chalamet.

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by Anonymousreply 10Last Saturday at 8:46 AM

Because he isn't a very good actor, he just mugs and does schtick.

by Anonymousreply 11Last Saturday at 8:50 AM

He has a fairly large penis.

by Anonymousreply 12Last Saturday at 8:52 AM

r12 I do remember a great scene from That 70s show where he's running towards the camera wearing a speedo.

by Anonymousreply 13Last Saturday at 9:01 AM

You’d see a lot more of him if he had joined Scientology with me.

by Anonymousreply 14Last Saturday at 9:07 AM

A waste of twink beauty.

by Anonymousreply 15Last Saturday at 9:22 AM

R12, to be honest, I’ve never seen a hint of a penis in his pants.

by Anonymousreply 16Last Saturday at 9:26 AM

He would have played Trans well in his younger days.

Toni Tennille haircut

John Denver glasses

Taupe turtleneck

You get the picture

by Anonymousreply 17Last Saturday at 9:32 AM

He;'s never been the same since Buddy (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) kissed him on That 70's Show.

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by Anonymousreply 18Last Saturday at 9:32 AM

He is a poor man's Tobey MaGuire

by Anonymousreply 19Last Saturday at 9:42 AM

Ugly

by Anonymousreply 20Last Saturday at 9:49 AM

[Quote] I’ve never seen a hint of a penis in his pants.

The same was said of Froy but we've seen his nudes, so...

by Anonymousreply 21Last Saturday at 9:50 AM

He's good at playing wasps.

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by Anonymousreply 22Last Saturday at 10:03 AM

His scrawniness precluded him from ever becoming any sort of conventional leading man.

by Anonymousreply 23Last Saturday at 10:06 AM

Too boyish looking, ask Tobey and Elijah how that worked for their careers.

by Anonymousreply 24Last Saturday at 10:19 AM

I always saw his 70s Show character as sort of a Shaggy/Jughead type. But maybe he was an Archie (pre-CW). Either way, not a sex symbol.

He could have been a Joseph Gordon-Levitt type. Their agents probably sent them on a lot of the same casting calls. But you can tell just from R18 that Levitt is a more interesting performer. He gets a little bit of color and nuance into a minor scene and Grace is just a generic sitcom type despite having the starring role.

by Anonymousreply 25Last Saturday at 10:20 AM

He's from money. Hopefully he invested well. Like a lot of people, he fit a particular time and appeal and then it was over.

by Anonymousreply 26Last Saturday at 10:21 AM

I can't imagine Grace as a rentboy. Levitt played that role well.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Saturday at 10:24 AM

[quote] Timmy did it right. Let the audiences worship your lithe, beauty in a dreamy, (what was) indie film. Then you are seared into the public’s eye as a sex object, eternally youthful and elegant.

Timothy Chalamet is no sex object to anyone with eyes and taste.

by Anonymousreply 28Last Saturday at 10:26 AM

R14 I went to high school with laura, she is naturally blonde. Sad that she is a clam now.

by Anonymousreply 29Last Saturday at 10:27 AM

Chalamet is not for me (that pancake ass!) but he reads as a sexual being.

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by Anonymousreply 30Last Saturday at 10:29 AM

He has the most beautiful eyes.

by Anonymousreply 31Last Saturday at 10:31 AM

So is she!

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by Anonymousreply 32Last Saturday at 10:33 AM

R15 I thought he was adorable, or adorkable when he was that doe-eyed young man in OP's pic. He sadly didn't remain cute. It's as if his eyes shrunk. I think he might be better if he put on a little weight.

by Anonymousreply 33Last Saturday at 10:34 AM

I much preferred Lucas Neff of "Raising Hope" (later) and he also seemed to disappear. But I just saw he has moved from show to show since so guess he is doing fine. He was genuinely talented and cute -- before he went ugly with long hair and beard, thankfully gone now.

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by Anonymousreply 34Last Saturday at 10:36 AM

Topher needs to be more present on social media.

Trust me, that's how leading man careers get made nowadays!

by Anonymousreply 35Last Saturday at 10:41 AM

Jesus Christ, do you find Josepha Mazello a twunk too?

by Anonymousreply 36Last Saturday at 10:44 AM

r25

JLG's Asian eyes helped him.

by Anonymousreply 37Last Saturday at 10:53 AM

Didn't he reveal a much more muscled up physique several months back? Is he still a hunk?

Personally I think he's exceptionally handsome.

by Anonymousreply 38Last Saturday at 10:56 AM

re R30

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by Anonymousreply 39Last Saturday at 11:01 AM

Topher gave birth to his 2nd child today.

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by Anonymousreply 40Last Saturday at 12:50 PM

Whatever his personal beliefs are... his looks increasingly suggest scary, white-supremacist, right-wing types. Kind of a narrow niche.

by Anonymousreply 41Last Saturday at 12:54 PM

He looks very waspy.

by Anonymousreply 42Last Saturday at 12:58 PM

R41 He vaguely resembles Jared Kushner, post-undertaker makeover.

by Anonymousreply 43Last Saturday at 1:13 PM

That 70's Porn

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by Anonymousreply 44Last Saturday at 1:16 PM

R8 He should take on a gay role. It certainly has helped Timothee Chalamet, Tobey Maguire and Jonathan Gordon Levitt with their careers.

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by Anonymousreply 45Last Saturday at 1:31 PM

What gay role would you suggest? The title role in The Jim Parsons Story?

by Anonymousreply 46Last Saturday at 1:34 PM

Do I still have a career?

by Anonymousreply 47Last Saturday at 1:35 PM

[quote] He would have played Trans well in his younger days. Toni Tennille haircut. John Denver glasses. Taupe turtleneck. You get the picture.

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by Anonymousreply 48Last Saturday at 1:53 PM

He could play a hot, gay nerd or a role in Will and Grace.

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by Anonymousreply 49Last Saturday at 1:58 PM

r49 Not so much anymore.

by Anonymousreply 50Last Saturday at 2:03 PM

r40 He looks like Freddie Prinze Jr there, another actor who was hot for fifteen minutes.

by Anonymousreply 51Yesterday at 2:27 AM

R36 not really.

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by Anonymousreply 52Yesterday at 3:39 AM

I think OP has it backwards. The real question is how he's actually made so much out of relatively little. This guy is not a major talent, and not a stunning looker, though he has some charm, so the fact that he's been in as many major movies and shows over the years, and is still regularly working, is pretty impressive.

by Anonymousreply 53Yesterday at 4:13 AM

Timothee Chalamet will follow in the footsteps of Topher and Tobey once his twinkish looks are gone.

by Anonymousreply 54Yesterday at 6:36 AM

[quote]his looks increasingly suggest scary, white-supremacist, right-wing types. Kind of a narrow niche.

Ivanka has a type.

by Anonymousreply 55Yesterday at 6:40 AM

He's one of those guys that would probably look better with short, full beard.

by Anonymousreply 56Yesterday at 6:47 AM

Because he shortened “Christopher” to “Topher.”

by Anonymousreply 57Yesterday at 6:49 AM

He was great on That 70s Show but I wasn't expecting much more out of him. A role on Stranger Things as some 80s geeky professor could suit him.

by Anonymousreply 58Yesterday at 7:04 AM

He had to focus on his giant penis.

by Anonymousreply 59Yesterday at 7:05 AM

[quote]This guy is not a major talent, and not a stunning looker, though he has some charm, so the fact that he's been in as many major movies and shows over the years, and is still regularly working, is pretty impressive.

I agree, but I'd also suggest that the vagaries of the industry have much to do with it. If Grace was a breakout sitcom star in the 70s or 80s, for example, he could have had a long, lucrative career of moving between one network sitcom, a cop show, a medical procedural, another sitcom, and a host of TV movies over the next 15-20 years. Lots and lots of guest spots on other shows. (Feature films, of course, probably wouldn't have touched him.) It was a smaller talent pool with more of a reliance on established, friendly faces.

TV is enormous now, but the game has changed. The Tony Danza and Kelsey Grammar types of TV stardom are becoming a thing of the past. (You may not care for either of those gentlemen, but they've both had insanely long and successful runs on different sitcoms spanning decades.)

by Anonymousreply 60Yesterday at 7:33 AM

He's moving into the types of roles Joshua Jackson and Jason Bateman have been doing.

by Anonymousreply 61Yesterday at 7:34 AM

I think Grace has had a better screen career than, say, Dennis Dugan (sp?) or even John Ritter.

by Anonymousreply 62Yesterday at 8:01 AM

He was cast in That 70s Show with literally nothing on his resume. He got the role because the daughter of the show's producers went to the same high school as Topher and they saw him in one of the high school's plays. That was the sum total of his acting experience before being cast in a major network sitcom. Talk about falling ass-backwards into good fortune.

Given those circumstances, he's done amazingly well.

by Anonymousreply 63Yesterday at 8:02 AM

But he was good on "That '70s Show." He wasn't Shelley Hack.

by Anonymousreply 64Yesterday at 8:09 AM

R63, he got the role because the producers saw him in a high school play and then he presented his hole to all of them, at once.

We’re sticklers for the facts here at Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 65Yesterday at 8:52 AM

When did he date Ivanka?

by Anonymousreply 66Yesterday at 8:54 AM

He gives the same nervous freakout as Courtney Cox and it’s what I expect when he is in a movie.

by Anonymousreply 67Yesterday at 9:11 AM

I like him. I think he's cute, even now. I follow ten actors on IG, and he's one of them. When I would watch That '70s Show, since I couldn't stick my hands down his pants, I'd stick them down my own.

Who's got the receipts on his long dong?

by Anonymousreply 68Yesterday at 10:16 AM

R68, who are the other nine actors you follow?

by Anonymousreply 69Yesterday at 10:18 AM

Tanya Roberts, Debra Jo Rupp, Jackie, Kelso, Fez...

by Anonymousreply 70Yesterday at 10:20 AM

R70 is funny. The others, r69, are Julian Morris, Aaron Tveit, James Cusati Moyer, Ryan Phillippe, Tim O'Tay, Giorgio Cantarini, Daveed Mazooz, Jake Gyllenhaal, and Mark Grossman.

Ryan, Giorgio, and Daveed are on again/off again. Ryan is often annoying-to-unbearable in his smug, superannuated state, Daveed hangs out too often with nasty bitch Cameron Kasky, and relentlessly heterosexual Giorgio is there only because I rewatched Life Is Beautiful last month (he played Josué). I often drop Timmy because of his annoying posters.

In any case, that puts Topher in my top six, not just my top ten, actors.

by Anonymousreply 71Yesterday at 10:39 AM

Quite a few unconfirmed gays on your list.

by Anonymousreply 72Yesterday at 10:40 AM

R71, I like your taste in guys. I’m a little surprised you don’t follow my future husband Logan Lerman.

by Anonymousreply 73Yesterday at 10:40 AM

And why would it be any other way, r72?

by Anonymousreply 74Yesterday at 10:41 AM

[Quote] And why would it be any other way, [R72]?

If they come out, will you stop following them?

by Anonymousreply 75Yesterday at 10:41 AM

Logan hasn't been in much that I've seen, r74, until recently with that Nazi drama on Netflix. Or was it Prime?

Oh, God, no, r75. That would make me like them even more. I am not your typical Datalounge gayhater.

by Anonymousreply 76Yesterday at 10:43 AM

In 2006, r66.

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by Anonymousreply 77Yesterday at 10:43 AM

A friend of a friend worked on the show. Apparently Topher didn't hang out much with the other cast members.

by Anonymousreply 78Yesterday at 10:46 AM

Do you blame him? Cradle snatcher Wilmer Valderama? No one secure falls prey to Scientology (Prepon, Masterson)... His TV sister joined Faces of Meth...

by Anonymousreply 79Yesterday at 10:49 AM

Or the most successful Ashtor Kutsher and Mila?

by Anonymousreply 80Yesterday at 12:31 PM

Ashton Kutcher was "dating" a hooker who got murdered back in the day. Grace probably has a good set of parents, like NPH.

by Anonymousreply 81Yesterday at 12:32 PM

He's definitely straight, but he could have attempted to give the impression that he's glass-closeted. It's been a career boost to a lot of genuine glass-closeted homosexuals.

by Anonymousreply 82a day ago

I’m adding Mila to my Tina Fey registry which puts them both just under Dolly Parton and our Tina Turner.

Regarding Topher, he kind of appeared as “normal non-threatening young actor” fully formed. I predicted he’d go Rick Schroeder and join a police SVU show. I’m impressed he has done so well.

by Anonymousreply 8318 hours ago

I remember enjoying his performance in Traffic and thought that made a nice departure from the whackiness of That '70s Show.

by Anonymousreply 8418 hours ago

He always played a smug little creep, which worked well for when he was young but has been harder as he got older. He's not that handsome facially, so when he worked out and got a more buff physique it didn't really go anywhere for him professionally.

What could happen for him, if he works at losing the smirk, is to become a character actor the way Timothy Hutton and Henry Thomas did. Neither of them are that handsome, but they are good actors (Thomas grew into becoming one), and though they've not been big stars, they've worked very steadily since they first appeared on the scene. He would be good playing district attorneys or paper-pushers, or even dads in teen comedies. but he does have to work at losing the smirk he had when he was younger.

by Anonymousreply 8518 hours ago

I used to get him mixed up with Joshua Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 8618 hours ago

He did tons of movies during the that 70s Show days. I bet the rest of the cast was jealous of him and Ashton.

by Anonymousreply 8717 hours ago

Hes bland as milquetoast . not ugly by any means,but not sexy . You dont want to fuck him so watching him isnt that appealing either.

by Anonymousreply 8817 hours ago

Because he was a little shit who thought he was better than everyone else on That 70’s Show. Given what we now know about what sleazes Danny (rapist) Masterson is and Wilmer Valderama dating underage girls....not to mention Ashton Kutcher and his orgies, the woman who played Eric’s sister was a junkie..... I can see why he didn’t want to hang out with any of these people except for Laura Prepon (Donna).

by Anonymousreply 8917 hours ago

[quote] not to mention Ashton Kutcher and his orgies,

What's wrong with orgies -- especially orgies involving Ashton Kutcher?

by Anonymousreply 9017 hours ago

R90 they involved skeletal Demi Moore and female whores. I don’t want no big silicone tiddies in my face.

by Anonymousreply 9117 hours ago

His latest pic. I’ll do it

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by Anonymousreply 9217 hours ago

R91, oh I see your point now. I saw that Demi Moore beaver shot and I still have not yet recovered.

by Anonymousreply 9317 hours ago

Yes. Demi has more hair on snatch than on her head. She could fucking braid it.

by Anonymousreply 9417 hours ago

It's that a Jesus cameo at r92

by Anonymousreply 9517 hours ago

Topher is cornier than Demi’s feet, but those great tits raise his photo to the level of sexy for me.

by Anonymousreply 9617 hours ago

I agree that he’s not really leading man material, but I suspect that as he ages he’ll have as prolific a below-the-line career as wants. I thought he was quite good in “In Good Company”.

by Anonymousreply 9717 hours ago

He was good in PS with Laura Linney.

by Anonymousreply 9816 hours ago

R3, Well, that's just stupid. It's like calling oneself Than because....JonaThan.

by Anonymousreply 9915 hours ago

R98 True, I had forgotten about that one. Good movie.

by Anonymousreply 10015 hours ago

Asshole and closet case doesn't work in Hollywood.

JK! Look at me!!

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by Anonymousreply 10115 hours ago

Ugh, that tat! He could play JC Chasez in Mother, May I Sleep With Lou?

by Anonymousreply 10210 hours ago
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