Donald Sutherland’s snub for Ordinary People was particularly egregious. Mary Tyler Moore and Timothy Hutton received most of the attention, but Sutherland is heartbreaking and really just perfect in the role.
Great film performances that shockingly were not Oscar nominated
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We need to start The Datalounge Awards, for all those unheralded performances through the ages.
Here is my initial design for the statuette.
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Kathy Bates in Dolores Claiborne
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Totally agree with your assessment of Sutherland in Ordinary People, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||08/01/2020|
Björk - Dancer in the Dark
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Connie Francis in Looking For Love. A moving dramatic performance with comedic elements.
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R3 She's actually better in that, than in "Misery". It's one of my all-time favorite films. If they'd released it later in the year (instead of March), she absolutely would've been nominated.
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R5- Bjork WAS nominated for Dancer In The Dark
|by Anonymous||reply 8||08/01/2020|
R8, not for an acting Oscar, no.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||08/01/2020|
R8 for Best Original Song
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Anne Hathaway and Hugh Jackman took most of the press for Les Mis, but Eddie Redmayne should’ve received more acknowledgement as Marius. His rendition of “Empty Chairs...” wrecked me. I found it far more emotionally resonant than Hathaway’s number.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||08/01/2020|
I would give Donald Sutherland an Oscar every time he walked into a room. Brilliant actor. Also, thanks to poster above for giving Redmayne some long-delayed kudos; he's very good.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||08/01/2020|
Alberts Finney and Diane Keaton for Shoot the Moon. RIP Alan Parker.
Sissy Spacek and Whoopi Goldberg in The Long Walk Home.
Kathleen Turner in Body Heat, Crimes of Passion, and War of the Roses.
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|by Anonymous||reply 14||08/01/2020|
R13, Kathleen Turner for The War of the Roses is a great choice.
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Robert Shaw in Jaws
Cary Grant in The Awful Truth, Bringing Up Baby, Arsenic and Old Lace, North by Northwest (the Academy didn’t seem to like Cary Grant in a typical Cary Grant role)
|by Anonymous||reply 16||08/01/2020|
Buck would never have been snubbed!
Naomi Watts in Mulholland Drive. Gene Hackman in The Royal Tenenbaums.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||08/01/2020|
Richard Widmark in NIGHT AND THE CITY (1950) - a classic film noir anchored by Widmark's desperate, manic performance as a doomed hustler trying to organize a big ticket wrestling match.
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Jeremy Irons in Dead Ringers
any of the women in Cries and Whispers
Giancarlo Giannini in Seven Beauties
Chiwetel Ejiofor in Kinky Boots
Robert Walker in Strangers on a Train
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Gillian Anderson in The House of Mirth. It’s still one of my all-time favorite performances.
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[quote]Jeremy Irons in Dead Ringers
Definitely. Brilliant work. And while we're on a Cronenberg kick, can I add Jeff Goldblum in The Fly? I don't know that it's a "shocking" snub, given the Academy's distaste for genre films, but Goldblum was spectacular in it; arguably his best work ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||08/01/2020|
r18, totally agree with you on Widmark
Also: Susan Peters in Sign of the Ram
|by Anonymous||reply 22||08/01/2020|
Brian Cox in L.I.E
|by Anonymous||reply 23||08/01/2020|
John Savage for The Deer Hunter. He should have won BSA that year.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||08/01/2020|
John Savage for Inside Moves.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||08/01/2020|
Karen Black for The Day of the Locust.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||08/01/2020|
Donald Sutherland has never been nominated for an Oscar. Not for anything he's done.
He's great in Ordinary People, but he's even better in Day of the Locust.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||08/01/2020|
Cary Grant in "An Affair to Remember" -- His scene where he sees his painting on the wall and figures out what's happened to Deborah Kerr is quite heartbreaking.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||08/01/2020|
[quote] Jeremy Irons in Dead Ringers
You mean Bette Davis.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||08/01/2020|
R27 I think there was a degree of political backlash against Donald for his staunch liberal politics. The Academy has always skewed conservative.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||08/01/2020|
[R29] Bette's a hoot in that! A master class in hammy star acting. She certainly knew what she was doing.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||08/01/2020|
[R30] They've "skewed conservative" in what world? You must joking. They didn't seem to be bothered by Jane Fonda in that regard. You're making an assumption out of thin air.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||08/01/2020|
R30 is correct and the one thin exception offered by R32 proves nothing.
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Apropos of nothing, I have always found Donald Sutherland incredibly sexy
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R13 fun fact: Albert Finney has never bothered to show up to an Oscar ceremony, even when he was nominated. A lot of actors pretend not to give a shit about awards but he actually walked the walk. That’s probably why he never won the damn thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||08/01/2020|
Terence Stamp as Bernadette in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Brilliant characterization of an aging, bitter drag queen. He steals the movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||08/01/2020|
Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby. Her performance was phenomenal and she wasn't even nominated. I don't know why she didn't go on to become a huge star?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||08/01/2020|
[R33] Vanessa Redgrave is another example. The Academy is hardly conservative.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||08/01/2020|
John Garfield and Phyllis Thaxter in The Breaking Point
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Pam Grier and Samuel L Jackson in Jackie Brown.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||08/01/2020|
Ruth Gordon for Harold and Maude. I'm not a huge fan of the film but she was amazing in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||08/01/2020|
R3, I would add Judy Parfitt and David Strathairn to the list for CLAIBORNE. Especially Parfitt.
I think Fonda got more of a pass for her politics vs. Sutherland based on her family name and pedigree. Same for Redgrave.
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Nicole Kidman in To Die For.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||08/01/2020|
Edward G. Robinson in Scarlet Street
|by Anonymous||reply 44||08/01/2020|
Julianne Moore for Magnolia. "Shame on you!"
|by Anonymous||reply 45||08/01/2020|
Meryl for The Hours
|by Anonymous||reply 46||08/01/2020|
Jamie Foxx in Django. Such a nuanced performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||08/01/2020|
Helen Mirren for Cal
|by Anonymous||reply 48||08/01/2020|
Everybody in Kubrick’s Lolita - James Mason, Shelley Winters, Sue Lyon, and Peter Sellers. Adrian Lyne’s version is more faithful and more explicit, but in this case less results in a lot more.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||08/01/2020|
From Muriel's Wedding:
Toni Collette, for Best Actress; and Jeanie Drynan (as Muriel's mother), for Best Supporting Actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||08/01/2020|
[quote]Jeanie Drynan (as Muriel's mother), for Best Supporting Actress
YES! I thought she was brilliant in that role. Really heartbreaking.
Definitely agree with Judy Parfitt in Dolores Claiborne.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||08/01/2020|
Tilda Swinton in Suspiria she is a true chameleon it's a shame the only thing the Academy has recognised her for was Michael Clayton
|by Anonymous||reply 52||08/01/2020|
My amazing husband Will Smith in all his movies!!! You're racist if you disagree! #oscarsowhite #wiveswithgayhusbands #mykidshavespecialneeds
|by Anonymous||reply 53||08/01/2020|
R42 I did a small research project on Kathy Bates in college. Being a huge fan of the film, I spent a little more time on that one. Anyway, in the process I read that Straithairn didn't think his performance was very successful. Insane. He and Parfitt both were also outstanding.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||08/01/2020|
R50 yes for Jeanie Drynun as Muriel's mother. She made me feel so sad as a moody teenager I started being nicer to my mum! Heartbreakingly great.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||08/01/2020|
DL favorite John Travolta playing a fat Southern presidential candidate like Bill Clinton in Primary Colors.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||08/01/2020|
What a look, I buy it completely, and what a cast too!
|by Anonymous||reply 57||08/01/2020|
I'm surprised that Sutherland has never been nominated. He's often been really good in supporting parts--the priest in "Heaven Help Us", the lecherous prof in "Animal House". He really doesn't have much to do in "Ordinary People". He was better playing a sympathetic part in "Klute". Judd Hirsch was miscast as the therapist in Ordinary people. Hutton and Moore deserved the attention they got because they carried the film.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||08/01/2020|
Farrow in Rosemary's Baby---she was her usual waifish self. Sandy Dennis would have been much better---her usual twitchy existential dread would have been a better fit and she would prevented Cassavetes and Ruth Gordon from walking off with the movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||08/01/2020|
After receiving 5 nominations in the 80s, it was a little surprising to me that Glenn Close wasn’t nominated for Reversal of Fortune. I thought it was a terrific performance. There might have been some category confusion.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||08/01/2020|
Sharon Stone in Sliver
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Zelda Rubinstein in Poltergeist.
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Donald Sutherland is really underrated. He starred in some of the best movies of the '70s - Don't Look Now, Klute, M*A*S*H, and the '78 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers (seriously, his last scene in the latter is brilliant and iconic).
As excellent as Moore and Hutton are in Ordinary People, I feel it's Sutherland who has the biggest job of holding everything together. HIs final scene is really what the whole film has been leading up to and his revelation to Moore is perhaps the best scene in the film - and the kind of scene one would have as their Oscar clip.
He was also brilliant in the recent limited series, Trust, as J. Paul Getty. Completely eccentric and intimidating.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||08/01/2020|
Jlo for Hustlers
|by Anonymous||reply 64||08/01/2020|
Cher for Mask.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||08/01/2020|
Tony Curtis in Sweet Smell of Success
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R63 he’s one of my mother’s favorite actors and her favorite movie he was in is Eye of the Needle. Which I’ve never seen have you? How is it?
And I agree he holds the movie together and that scene is crucial. Huge omission that year.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||08/01/2020|
Jim Carrey for 3 movies: Truman Show, Man on the Moon, and Eternal Sunshine..... A case could also be made for I Love You, Phillip Morris.
Funny, I always disliked him on In Living Color, and then the comedic movies like Cable Guy where he was over-the-top and just, ich.....suddenly LOVED him in Truman Show, and then on....
|by Anonymous||reply 68||08/01/2020|
Piper Laurie - Carrie
|by Anonymous||reply 69||08/01/2020|
It’s not a shock that he wasn’t nominated, since it was a independent film, but I wish James Spader had been nominated for sex, lies, and videotape.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||08/01/2020|
Shit R67- I started watching Eye Of The Needle on Amazon prime in April and stopped after 10 minutes!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||08/01/2020|
R71 really??!? I thought it was some underrated suspense movie. Good to know, I won’t waste my time.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||08/01/2020|
Well now I want to start again!!!!!!!!! The first 10 minutes was gory and it was clear Sutherland was a maniac!! I didn't want to see him like that!
|by Anonymous||reply 73||08/01/2020|
I wonder whatever happened to Kate Nelligan? She hasn't acted in anything in years.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||08/01/2020|
I liked Eye of the Needle
|by Anonymous||reply 75||08/01/2020|
If they had nominated Sutherland for Ordinary People, they would have had to bump Tim Hutton up to the category in which he actually belonged, Best Actor. Three best supporting actors from the same movie, when one was clearly the lead? No.
Tim Hutton would not have beat DeNiro in Raging Bull, and everyone wanted Tim to win, so...Best Supporting Actor.
I would have voted for him as Best Actor, but I don't get to vote.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||08/01/2020|
Lucille Ball in Mame
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Robert Preston in "The Music Man". Only probably one of the greatest male musical comedy performances ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||08/01/2020|
Eye of the Needle is a hoot with Donald as an over-the-top Nazi spy. He has an awkward sex scene with Kate Nelligan but is funny when he kills people or falls into the sea.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||08/01/2020|
Donald Trump in Home Alone 2. The evil liberals in the Academy wouldn't know good acting if it bit them in the ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||08/01/2020|
R19 Giannini was deservedly nominated for "Seven Beauties".
|by Anonymous||reply 81||08/01/2020|
Samuel O Toole in Fuck My Hole. Incredible actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||08/01/2020|
Steve Forrest for Mommie Dearest. Best Shower Scene nominee!
|by Anonymous||reply 83||08/01/2020|
Scatman Crothers for The Shining
|by Anonymous||reply 84||08/01/2020|
Patricia Collinge for Shadow of a Doubt
Ian Holm for Dreamchild
Kate Winslet for Heavenly Creatures
|by Anonymous||reply 85||08/01/2020|
r69, Piper Laurie WAS nominated for an Oscar for "Carrie."
|by Anonymous||reply 86||08/01/2020|
Van Heflin - The Prowler
|by Anonymous||reply 87||08/01/2020|
Toni Colette in "Hereditary"
Catherine O'Hara in "For Your Consideration"
|by Anonymous||reply 88||08/01/2020|
Don Knotts in The Ghost and Mr. Chicken.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||08/01/2020|
Agree with the Cronenberg comments - he really knows how to get food performances out of actors. Samantha Eggar in the Brood was memorable.
I’d add Tim Curry for Rocky Horror for creating such a memorable, indelible, vibrant character.
And I’d swap Bill Murray’s nominations to Rushmore, where he’s really fantastic.
For another film where one actor completely made/defined the whole film - Jon Heder for Napoleon Dynamite. He’s incredibly funny, it’s an iconic and brave performance, and no one ever rewards comedies.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||08/01/2020|
George Macready - Gilda
|by Anonymous||reply 91||08/01/2020|
To many to list--the most immediate ones that come to mind are Laura Dern in Inland Empire and Naomi Watts in Mulholland Drive. Definitely better than Halle Berry's performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||08/01/2020|
Andy Griffith in "A Face in the Crowd."
|by Anonymous||reply 93||08/01/2020|
Jon Heder is a dynamite suggestion.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||08/01/2020|
The fact Kirsten Dunst didn't even get a nom for Melancholia is a fucking travesty. That year Meryl won for maybe one of her worst performances of all time in The Iron Lady. That belongs to KiKi.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||08/01/2020|
[quote]R74 I wonder whatever happened to Kate Nelligan? She hasn't acted in anything in years.
I don’t know if she got help, but at one time she was considered alcoholic, and “difficult.”
|by Anonymous||reply 96||08/01/2020|
Why must EVERYTHING be a contest?!
|by Anonymous||reply 97||08/01/2020|
^^ Faye should've been nominated for Mommie Dearest. Not joking.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||08/01/2020|
Ian Holm and Sarah Polley for “the Sweet Hereafter”.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||08/01/2020|
Kate Nelligan and Mimi Rogers are two who have been overlooked and underrated over the years.
Nelligan's only Oscar nomination was for The Prince of Tides (yuk). She should've been selected for Eye of the Needle, Frankie and Johnny and The Cider House Rules.
Rogers has never been nominated, but should've been for The Rapture. It might have helped given her career a needed boost at the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||08/01/2020|
Dame Maggie Smith for "The Lonely Passion of Judith Hearne". She won the BAFTA for this performance, and rightly so. But not even a nomination for the Oscar. That was a mistake.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||08/01/2020|
R96 that’s right she was in it too (I never saw it but she was one of my mom’s favorite actresses at the time, so no wonder she loved this movie), but actually Without a Trace (with Kate Nelligan AND Judd Hirsch, so we’re really coming full circle here) was on Retro Cable channel today and I had it on in the background. My parents took me to see this movie when I had just turned 5, are they nuts?
Anyway I hadn’t seen any of this movie in years and I forgot Stockard Channing was in it — but wtf was she doing playing second fiddle to Kate Nelligan?
|by Anonymous||reply 102||08/01/2020|
Yeah, Kate Nelligan had an interesting career. She was in Dracula, Eye of the Needle, Without a Trace and Eleni. All leading roles. And then her career cools for a bit until the early '90s when it revives with Frankie and Johnny and Prince of Tides. And then by '93, she's starring in crap like Fatal Instinct and a few more years of credits and then disappears.
I agree should have been nominated for F&J. While I love Prince of Tides, it's VERY hammy.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||08/01/2020|
Trailer for Eye of the Needle.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||08/02/2020|
Melvyn Douglas in Ninotchka. He was perfect opposite Garbo - gentle and romantic yet still masculine.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||08/02/2020|
Even though he’s only in it for about 10 min, Steven Hill should have gotten a nom for Running on Empty. That restaurant scene was incredible. Speaking of which, Christine Lahti should have been nominated as well.
Lily Taylor for Say Anything, Dogfight, Girls Town, and/or I Shot Andy Warhol. Really anything she’s done, she’s criminally underrated.
Guy Pierce in Memento.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||08/02/2020|
Kevin Kline in In and Out (1997)
|by Anonymous||reply 107||08/02/2020|
[quote]R19 Giannini was deservedly nominated for "Seven Beauties".
For some reason I thought her was egregiously overlooked since it's a foreign film (and an amazing one at that).
[quote]Agree with the Cronenberg comments - he really knows how to get food performances out of actors.
Yeah, you know I'd even add the despised James Woods in Videodrome as giving a great performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||08/02/2020|
[quote] Speaking of which, Christine Lahti should have been nominated as well.
She should have been nominated for "Housekeeping" as well, one of the most overlooked films ever. She deservedly won the NY Film Critics award for it that year, but that was the only major award the film received.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||08/02/2020|
[quote] The fact Kirsten Dunst didn't even get a nom for Melancholia is a fucking travesty. That year Meryl won for maybe one of her worst performances of all time in The Iron Lady. That belongs to KiKi.
KiKi was being punished for those crazy Hitler jokes (or were they?) Lars von Trier made at Cannes. She'd easily snag a nomination without those comments.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||08/02/2020|
Tony Lo Bianco for The Honeymoon Killers. He should get one for acting and another for filling a swim suit.
Shirley Stoler, too, for that matter. But just for the acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||08/02/2020|
Tony Lo Bianco for The Honeymoon Killers. He should get one for acting and another for filling a swim suit.
Shirley Stoler, too, for that matter. But just for the acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||08/02/2020|
R111 - I didn't realize he was good looking when he was young.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||08/02/2020|
Indeed, he was. He's incredibly hot throughout this film.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||08/02/2020|
Indeed, he was. He's incredibly hot throughout this film.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||08/02/2020|
[quote]R106 Lily Taylor for Say Anything, Dogfight, Girls Town, and/or I Shot Andy Warhol. Really anything she’s done, she’s criminally underrated.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||08/02/2020|
^ Yes! I almost forgot how great she was in that also!
|by Anonymous||reply 117||08/02/2020|
Roddy McDowell for Cleopatra,
Sean Penn for The Assassination of Richard Nixon,
Michael Shannon for Take Shelter,
Samuel L. Jackson for Jungle Fever (so good that Cannes created a special award for him).
|by Anonymous||reply 118||08/02/2020|
Dennis Quaid, Patricia Clarkson, Denise Haysbett, and DL fav Viola Davis for FAR FROM HEAVEN.
They all were excellent in their supporting roles!
|by Anonymous||reply 119||08/02/2020|
Robert Preston - The Music Man. Shirley MacLaine - Postcards From The Edge. Jake Gyllenhaal - Nightcrawler. Phyllis Somerville - Little Children. Robin Williams - The Fisher King. Liza Minnelli - New York New York. Plus, of course, Donald Sutherland for both Ordinary People and Day Of The Locust.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||08/02/2020|
I had no idea Robert Preston wasn’t nominated for The Music Man. I always assumed he won. His performance in that was one of the all-time greats.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||08/02/2020|
Agnes Moorehead for Dark Passage
|by Anonymous||reply 122||08/02/2020|
Naomi Watts in Mulholland Drive owns this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||08/02/2020|
R102- I don't think Without a Trace was a film released in theaters.. I think it was an HBO film?
|by Anonymous||reply 124||08/02/2020|
Joseph Cotten, Agnes Moorehead, Dolores Costello, Anne Baxter and Tim Holt for "The Magnificent Ambersons". I think, even in its truncated form, in some ways it is even better than "Citizen Kane". Of course, Tim Holt's selfish character who everyone wishes would get his comeuppance is kind of a template for Orange Cheetolini today.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||08/02/2020|
Sorry R102- I just checked IMDB. I am wrong. I watched that film on HBO all the time as a kid. I was probably 7!!! I watched it over and over and I think that is why I thought it was an HBO movie. Just like that Just Between Friends starring Carol Burnett. I watched that all the time around the same time.
Kidnappings were such a big topic in the early-mid 80's and Without a Trace was scary as hell to me.
The happy ending WAS bullshit, but I recall Nelligan and the chick from Grease giving great performances..
|by Anonymous||reply 126||08/02/2020|
Without a Trace was released in theaters in 1983.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||08/02/2020|
Definitely Agnes Moorhead in "The Magnificent Ambersons"--that is one of the greatest performances ever on film. It didn;t get the love it deserved because the studio released it as a B-picture.
Dolores Costello also deserved a nomination. It is such a subtle role, and she brings out all the subtleties.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||08/02/2020|
Gore Vidal said in "Myra Breckenridge" that no one during the Golden Age of Hollywood had a better ass than Tim Holt.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||08/02/2020|
Moorehead was nominated for Ambersons.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||08/02/2020|
Chaplin in City Lights
|by Anonymous||reply 131||08/02/2020|
R120 - Robin Williams was nominated for The Fisher King. Jeff Bridges was the one who was ignored - as usual - for his superior, alas far more subtle, turn.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||08/02/2020|
Mila Kunis in Black Swan over Natalie Portman. Portman did her same crying routine as usual. Mila was the only interesting character in the entire movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||08/02/2020|
Doris Day for "Love Me or Leave Me"
|by Anonymous||reply 134||08/02/2020|
Olivia Newton-John in "Two of a Kind."
|by Anonymous||reply 135||08/02/2020|
Rock Hudson for Pretty Maids All in a Row (1971).
|by Anonymous||reply 136||08/02/2020|
Wasn't that supposed to have included Rock's first nude scene? Was it ever shown or was it cut?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||08/02/2020|
Seriously, Rock Hudson for Seconds (1966)
|by Anonymous||reply 138||08/02/2020|
Burt Reynolds for Deliverance.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||08/02/2020|
Anthony Hopkins in Psycho.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||08/02/2020|
R140, wrong Anthony. No fava beans for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||08/02/2020|
Maybe Anthony Hopkins in "A Chorus of Disapproval"--he's very funny, one of his very best among those of his performances that I've seen.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||08/02/2020|
One Oscar-nominated performance, not really talked about much these days, was Bobby Darin in "Captain Newman M.D". Darin was absolutely terrific in that film, quite heartbreaking in fact, especially in his scenes opposite star Gregory Peck. Eddie Albert was also terrific, playing a very different type of role than I'd ever seen him in.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||08/02/2020|
Christian Bale for "Empire of the Sun"
|by Anonymous||reply 144||08/02/2020|
I meant Anthony Perkins in Psycho.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||08/02/2020|
Edward Norton in Fight Club.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||08/02/2020|
Sutherland is creepy by nature. The originally cast Tom Skerritt with his easy smile would have been better.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||08/02/2020|
Why'd Tom Skerritt leave the film?
|by Anonymous||reply 148||08/02/2020|
Here would be some of my choices from the first decade or so when they nominated some real schlock:
Garbo in A Woman of Affairs—Hepburn in Bringing Up Baby—Myrna Loy in The Thin Man—Dietrich in The Scarlet Empress—Leslie Howard in Of Human Bondage—Bogart in Dead End and Black Legion
|by Anonymous||reply 149||08/02/2020|
Bette Davis - Of Human Bondage
|by Anonymous||reply 150||08/02/2020|
Christopher Atkins for The Blue Lagoon (1980).
|by Anonymous||reply 151||08/02/2020|
Tom Skerrit has a certain Dickensian appeal I would have found quite refreshing in a husband. I am sure he's a better golf partner too.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||08/02/2020|
Tuesday Weld for “Pretty Poison”
|by Anonymous||reply 153||08/02/2020|
Miriam Margolyes for The Age of Innocence. She won a BAFTA for that supporting performance, but wasn't nominated for an Oscar.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||08/02/2020|
Marianne Sagebracht and CCH Pounder (both) for "Bagdad Cafe"
|by Anonymous||reply 155||08/02/2020|
Juliette Binoche for a bunch of roles that are not the English Patient.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||08/02/2020|
Alfre Woodard for "H.E.A.L.T.H."
|by Anonymous||reply 157||08/02/2020|
[quote]R154 Miriam Margolyes for The Age of Innocence. She won a BAFTA for that supporting performance, but wasn't nominated for an Oscar.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||08/02/2020|
Isabelle Huppert for Violette Noziere
|by Anonymous||reply 159||08/02/2020|
R131 City Lights will be on TCM on Saturday night.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||08/02/2020|
R110, I remember that. As if that douchebag director's insane opinions should have anything to do with KiKi's performance. This was years before cancel culture!
|by Anonymous||reply 161||08/02/2020|
R54 david stratharin in Dolores Claiborne was a weak link in the film. I thought this is the abusive dude she’s afraid of? So i can’t agree with him being ignored. I’m shocked Gena Rowlands doesn’t have 3 oscars: woman Under the influence, gloria & the notebook (janes garner as well for notebook) one last one: i loved Jane fonda in the morning after but maybe her performance didn’t age well.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||08/02/2020|
Fonda was nominated for "The Morning After". I thought she was great in that role.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||08/02/2020|
R102 stockard said she was given great parts in movies- all flops. Her movie career wad dead after that it girl moment. She was given Grease & was glad for it. She said she took anything after that (even a tv show) before leaving it for reinvention on broadway. I was surprised she was so open about it in the interview. she comes from money
|by Anonymous||reply 164||08/02/2020|
R163 oh cool! didn’t know that.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||08/02/2020|
R35 Finney won an Emmy, plus multiple golden globes and BAFTAs.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||08/02/2020|
Last year, Alfre Woodard and Aldis Hodge for "Clemency."
Michael B. Jordan, incredible in "Fruitvale Station."
Kristin Thomas in I Have Loved You So Long
|by Anonymous||reply 167||08/02/2020|
Darryl Hannah for Wall Street (1987).
|by Anonymous||reply 168||08/02/2020|
Tilda Swinton was terrible as the man in suspiria but she was flawless in I Am Love
|by Anonymous||reply 169||08/02/2020|
Sophie Thompson in Emma (the 90s one). She just breaks your heart in this scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||08/02/2020|
R163 I think it’s one of her best performances! It’s different for her and she shows a lot of humor which people always accuse her of not having.
Movie is iffy though.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||08/02/2020|
Kevin Spacey for K-PAX (2000).
|by Anonymous||reply 172||08/02/2020|
[quote]R163 Fonda was nominated for "The Morning After". I thought she was great in that role.
She IS great in that. I love the way she says, “I was even [italic]good.”[/italic]
I wonder if she was sipping real wine in this scene - she plays fuzzy/tipsy so well.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||08/02/2020|
Olivia as Kira in Xanadu because they had to reward Sissy Spacek as Nell... i mean as Loretta Lynn
|by Anonymous||reply 174||08/02/2020|
Fonda said she was really drunk in The Morning After because she wanted to try being drunk and acting rather than acting drunk.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||08/02/2020|
Yes I agree the movie is a stinker. That climax with a head-bleeding Jeff Bridges is awful. Sidney Lumet is not known for subtlety.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||08/02/2020|
Well, it worked! That’s a great scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||08/02/2020|
^^ for r
|by Anonymous||reply 178||08/02/2020|
R177 was for
[quote] Fonda said she was really drunk in The Morning After because she wanted to try being drunk and acting rather than acting drunk.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||08/02/2020|
Jennifer Jason Leigh in Last Exit to Brooklyn.
Brad Davis Midnight Express.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||08/02/2020|
Agree about JJL in Last Exit to Brooklyn. It's a shame she wasn't nominated for either Brooklyn or Miami Blues in 1990. That really was her year. Two very different performances as a prostitute but both films showed her range.
Agree Fonda was excellent in The Morning After. Not a great film but both Fonda and Bridges are great in it, as is Raul Julia.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||08/02/2020|
I thought "Georgia" was JJL's missed nomination (1995). I guess it was a competitive year.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||08/02/2020|
John Huston in Chinatown. Robert Towne said numerous times that Huston's performance is what holds the film together.
John Cazale in Godfather Part II.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||08/02/2020|
Good nominations, r183. Cazale especially--that was a very delicately nuanced performance of a complex role.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||08/02/2020|
R72, TEOTN is brilliant! One of my all-time favorites! The suspense lasts literally to the final scene!
|by Anonymous||reply 185||08/02/2020|
Matt Damon, Cate Blanchett, and Philip Seymour Hoffman for 'The Talented Mr. Ripley'.
Christian Bale for 'American Psycho' and 'The Machinist'.
DeNiro and Pesci for 'Casino', and Sharon Stone definitely should've won the Oscar that year.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||08/03/2020|
PSHoffman for Happiness considered by some (including me) his best performance and better than Capote.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||08/03/2020|
Agreed, R187. He was amazing in Happiness, but most of the cast were excellent, like Jared Harris. Even Lara Flynn Boyle was great as the manipulative poet sister.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||08/03/2020|
I especially like the scene with Sutherland at the psychiatrist's office and revealing himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||08/03/2020|
Brad Davis in "Midnight Express"
|by Anonymous||reply 190||08/03/2020|
Coral Browne for Dreamchild
Debbie Reynolds for Mother
Amy Adams for Enchanted
|by Anonymous||reply 191||08/03/2020|
Rula Lenska for VO 5 hot oil treatments
|by Anonymous||reply 192||08/03/2020|
John Huston should have been nominated for Chinatown. He played corruption and evil brilliantly.
Happiness definitely deserved nominations but the film is quite unsettling so maybe it just was too much for Academy voters.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||08/03/2020|
R193 i wasn’t into happiness. It was so campy! I remember the cum on the wall & almost seeing elizabeth ashley’s tits. I also laughed out loud at the perv dad’s confession to his son. All these years later I remember it so there’s that .
|by Anonymous||reply 194||08/03/2020|
Paul Dooley for his wonderful comedic performance as Dennis Christopher's Dad in "Breaking Away"
Debbie Reynolds for "Mom"
The Academy really undervalues a great comic performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||08/03/2020|
The academy disdains horror and comedy performances. It's hard to scare people and make them laugh. The academy has a pre-modern take on what constitutes "good" acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||08/03/2020|
Who was the killer in The Morning After? I saw that film soooo long ago and now it's forgotten, not streamable, and never ever on any cable TV station.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||08/03/2020|
Ian Holm for Dreamchild
|by Anonymous||reply 198||08/03/2020|
The actress Coral Browne for Dreamchild.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||08/03/2020|
[quote] Who was the killer in The Morning After? I saw that film soooo long ago and now it's forgotten, not streamable, and never ever on any cable TV station.
Sadly, the "amazing" twist ending is spoiled by the fact that there are basically only three characters in the whole movie (Jane Fonda, Jeff Bridges and Raul Julia) and this being a studio film, two of them aren’t going to be the murderer.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||08/03/2020|
Jane Fonda looked her age (49) and more in The Morning After (1986). And she didn't try to hide it, she played a washed up former Hollywood starlet. "I was made into a new Vera Miles, before they realized no one wanted a new Vera Miles."
It was the last time we saw Jane before plastic surgery, which continued through the rest of her life.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||08/03/2020|
So Raul was the killer? Who was the dead guy in bed with Jane?
|by Anonymous||reply 202||08/03/2020|
R202 i think it was just some guy she fucked while drunk. Raul was the ex husband & the killer. . I should look it up on wiki but won’t. I did check. Sleazy photographer is killed. Doesn’t say why raul wants her set up - but he wants to get remarried ...
|by Anonymous||reply 203||08/03/2020|
Wasn't Jeff the killer in Jagged Edge?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||08/03/2020|
Yes. R204 At least i didn’t have to do those hetro white male panic films or joe eszterhas gal in danger bullshit to have a leading lady career, poor dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||08/03/2020|
Don't think Skerritt was under contract but Redford wanted him -- but Paramount said he was not box office. The movie and Redford were the real stars so film would have done just fine with Tom in the role. Sutherland could've been the shrink though.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||08/03/2020|
I don’t know - at least the resolution of the plot made sense. You could understand the motivation (as I recall).
|by Anonymous||reply 207||08/03/2020|
^^ sorry, in response to
[quote]r200 Sadly, the "amazing" twist ending is spoiled by the fact that there are basically only three characters in the whole movie (Jane Fonda, Jeff Bridges and Raul Julia) and this being a studio film, two of them aren’t going to be the murderer.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||08/03/2020|
[quote]R205 At least i didn’t have to do those hetro white male panic films or joe eszterhas gal in danger bullshit to have a leading lady career, poor dear. - M
Oh, really? I seem to remember this stinker...
Wasn’t it first called [italic]Stab[/italic] ?
|by Anonymous||reply 209||08/03/2020|
As much as I like Skerritt (and fuck, he's a hot daddy) but Sutherland was THE choice. He was brilliant. I just don't see Skerritt carrying the heavy emotions like Sutherland. No disrespect to Skeritt, but Sutherland truly is a far better actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||08/03/2020|
All this talk about Raul Julia reminds me how much I miss him. He was a very good actor and always lit up a movie with his presence.
One thing about Julia when he played villains is that he always made them charismatic, even likable.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||08/03/2020|
Voight would have been great too. You can see Mary Tyler Moore marrying him as the cute hot jock long before and expecting two perfect kids. And Buck could have stayed the same casting for sure.
Voight remains my favorite actor. His eyes let you in. Sutherland just seems dismissive, on screen and in real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||08/03/2020|
It's a shame what happened to Voight because he could be a really fantastic actor.
I watched Desert Bloom from 1986 recently and it's an excellent film. So many in the cast could have been nominated: Voight, JoBeth Williams, Ellen Barkin and Annabeth Gish.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||08/03/2020|
Voight is such an ass!
|by Anonymous||reply 214||08/03/2020|
Oh G! I was young then & had an oscar At least i wasn’t in up with people
|by Anonymous||reply 215||08/03/2020|
Look, if you were in the group we would have been called Up With Earplugs.
Now shove it.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||08/03/2020|
The M. vs. G. thing is painfully unfunny.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||08/03/2020|
Give your BUTT a rest!
|by Anonymous||reply 218||08/03/2020|
Re The Morning After the killer was not Raul Julia but his socialite girlfriend played by Diane Salinger and Raul thought it would be a good idea to frame Jane because she was a lush.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||08/03/2020|
Has anyone nominated Charlotte Rampling for Under the Sand? She did get a nomination later for 45 Years but I think she has a better role in the first film.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||08/03/2020|
Tuesday Weld was the only acting nominee in Looking For Mr. Goodbar. Diane Keaton should have been nominated.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||08/03/2020|
Anthony Perkins as Norman Bates for Psycho. Somehow was both cute/harmless, and creepy/off putting at the same time. One of those actors who could never shake their most famous role.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||08/03/2020|
Mia Farrow and Jeff Daniels for “Purple Rose of Cairo”
Sam Neill for “A Cry in the Dark”.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||08/03/2020|
Some still think Keaton won for both Goodbar and Annie Hall r221. Personally, I think her work in Goodbar is far more revelatory and groundbreaking than Annie Hall. But Goodbar was probably too grim for the Academy to award.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||08/03/2020|
R219 ok. Why? Why she do it ?
|by Anonymous||reply 225||08/03/2020|
"The killer is Isabel Harding (Diane Salinger), the fiancee of Alex's ex-husband Joaquin (Raul Julia), who is a hairdresser. Korshack had taken nude photographs of her, and he was blackmailing her with them. But it was Joaquin who came up with the idea to frame Alex for the murder because she wouldn't sign the divorce papers, and a divorce would be granted if she was in prison. Turner and Alex figure out it's them when it's discovered that her hair found at the crime scene was actually from her wig, which Joaquin now owns. When they are at Joaquin's home, he knocks out Turner with a large flowerpot and attempts to drown Alex. Turner comes to and shoots Joaquin in the arm just as the police arrive. Isabel, who was also at the home, confesses to the cops, but says that Joaquin was the killer, not her. He claims she killed him, so the police arrest both of them."
|by Anonymous||reply 226||08/03/2020|
R226 thank you! Now can we all go on about Jessica Lange in Music Box?
|by Anonymous||reply 227||08/03/2020|
I think the late Lange Troll played out Music Box.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||08/03/2020|
I was going to say Charlotte Rampling as the headmistress in Never Let Me Go should have gotten a nom but would add any of the three main characters (Carey Mulligan, Andrew Garfield, Keira Knightly). All v/v good (as was Sally Hawkins as the teacher who lost it).
|by Anonymous||reply 229||08/03/2020|
Mia Farrow for "Broadway Danny Rose" -- a comedic role, and she's a riot.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||08/03/2020|
Gary Oldman and Alfred Molina for Prick Up Your Ears. With all the nominations for being in biopics and the bravery of playing gay, this movie must have come just a little too early for that wave to be included. Or perhaps it’s the harrowing ending that turned people away, but there’s also a string of nominations for playing murders too. But both performances were praised at the time as well as Vanessa Redgrave, who I think played the agent, but I really don’t recall her character or performance much.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||08/04/2020|
[quote]It's a shame what happened to Voight because he could be a really fantastic actor.
A really underrated performance of his in the movie Conrack, where he played novelist Pat Conroy during a pre-author period in his life.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||08/04/2020|
So, in Jessica Lange's Music Box, was her father guilty? Was he a former Nazi? Concentration camp killer? Another film I saw long, long ago but I don't remember the ending!
|by Anonymous||reply 233||08/04/2020|
Amy Adams in “Arrival”
|by Anonymous||reply 234||08/04/2020|
[quote]Some still think Keaton won for both Goodbar and Annie Hall [R221]. Personally, I think her work in Goodbar is far more revelatory and groundbreaking than Annie Hall. But Goodbar was probably too grim for the Academy to award.
I think she only won because the vote was split between Anne Bancroft (Turning Point), Shirley MacLaine (Turning Point) and Jane Fonda (Julia).
I think Diane Keaton did good work in both films, but looking at the competition, I think it was more about she edge out the others by splitting the vote.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||08/04/2020|
R235, she won because Annie Hall is a timeless film, unlike The Turning Point and Julia.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||08/04/2020|
The Turning Point is hardly "timeless"
|by Anonymous||reply 237||08/04/2020|
I'm gonna say Christina Ricci for ' Black snake moan'. I don't understand why she was never nominated for anything. She could have had at least 3 nods from the academy in the supporting category only. I guess she was not Harvey' s type. On the olden days, Vivien Leigh in ' ship of fools ' gives one of the most powerful and moving performance of all time, and Signoret was the one nominated, for her usual shtick, the ' long suffering boozer with a heart of gold', that had already won her a best actress award. Back to Ricci, I really don' t get why she's not given one of those delicious vlllain parts in the big studio movies. Why is she so under-employed ?
|by Anonymous||reply 238||08/04/2020|
Ricci is a great choice, r238!
Honestly, I think she and Joan Cusack deserved Best Supporting Actress nominations for Addams Family Values. Almost 30 years later, those performances are comedic gems.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||08/04/2020|
Kristy McNichol for Just the Way You Are (1984).
|by Anonymous||reply 240||08/04/2020|
[quote]The Turning Point is hardly "timeless"
Given what R236 posted - "Annie Hall is a timeless film, unlike The Turning Point" - your comment seems Point-less.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||08/04/2020|
^ Sorry, misread the post.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||08/04/2020|
r233 Armand Mueller-Stahl's character was all those things, and he turned so creepily haughty against his daughter(Lange) as soon as she confronted him.
Just joking, but also a bit seriously, the titular music box itself should get some kind of award. When the photos flip up out of it, it's quite chilling and mesmerizing, and Lange's reaction to them is stunning.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||08/04/2020|
Lange was excellent in Music Box and deserved her nomination.
But I watched the film a few years ago and it wasn't as good as I remembered.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||08/04/2020|
Madeline Kahn for What's Up, Doc (1972).
|by Anonymous||reply 245||08/04/2020|
Eli Wallach for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
John Cazale for Dog Day Afternoon and The Godfather Part II
Beverly D’Angelo for Coal Miners Daughter
Agree with Anthony Perkins for Psycho
|by Anonymous||reply 246||08/04/2020|
Monica Vitti in L'Avventura, La Notte or L'Eclisse.
Jack Nicholosn in The Passenger.
Marcello Mastroianni in La Dolce Vita.
Bibi Andersson and Liv Ullman in Persona.
Jonathan Chang in Yi Yi.
Setsuko Hara for Late Spring.
Tatsuya Nakadai in Harakiri.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||08/04/2020|
David Ashfield and Grant Fagan for Lead/Supporting Actor respectively for “Pizza Boy - He Delivers”
|by Anonymous||reply 248||08/04/2020|
Raul Julia for The Addams Family and/or Addams Family Values. The whole cast was great but he really was the linchpin.
Agree with Scatman Crothers for "The Shining".
I know the movie is very much an acquired taste but Shelley Duvall was superb in "Popeye".
|by Anonymous||reply 249||08/04/2020|
Yep. The Addam's family movies and the Ice Storm were packed with superb performances by top notch crème de la crème acting greats, and yet in both cases Ricci stole the show and walked away with it. And yet nothing...
|by Anonymous||reply 250||08/05/2020|
Ziyi Zhang deserved to be nominated for “House of Flying Daggers.” I thought she’d get one for “Memoirs of a Geisha” after the BAFTAs, Globes and SAG Awards all nominated her but no dice there either. GREAT actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||08/05/2020|
Re Ziyi Zhang - if we're bringing up movies directed by Zhang Yimou, then I would add Gong Li for her performances in a number of his films that were not Oscar nominated - from Raise the Red Lantern to Red Sorghum to To Live to Coming Home.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||08/05/2020|
Fele Martinez and Gael Garcia Bernal in Bad Education.
John Heard in Cutter and Bone.
Richard E. grant in Withnail and I.
Also agree with Joan Cuscak in Addams Family Values, she’s such a hoot in that. Kind of like Mercedes Reuhl in Married to the Mob.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||08/05/2020|
Was Mercedes Ruehl's Oscar of "Fisher KIng" sort of an award for "Married to the Mob"? She was great in "Mob" but otherwise not really that impressive in 'Fisher".
|by Anonymous||reply 254||08/05/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 255||08/05/2020|
Move over, Toots.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||08/05/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 257||08/05/2020|
Nobody tops me (truly the worst oversight of all time, I think).
|by Anonymous||reply 258||08/05/2020|
I think Courtney Love should absolutely have been nominated for The People vs. Larry Flynt. She was fantastic in that. I think she would be nominated today.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||08/05/2020|
Guy Pearce, James Cromwell, and yes, Kevin Spacey for LA Confidential
Jeremy Irons for Dead Ringers
Jeff Goldblum for The Fly
Ted Danson for Body Heat
Julie Harris for The Haunting Ted
|by Anonymous||reply 260||08/05/2020|
Meant Julie Harris for The Haunting
Might as well add everybody in Kubrick’s Lolita
Jack Nicholson and Shelly Duvall in The Shining
|by Anonymous||reply 261||08/05/2020|
Charlotte Rampling in SWIMMING POOL, rather than UNDER THE SAND though she's very good in that.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||08/05/2020|
R261 i agree with shelly duvall but i thought jack was fun but over the top so not great in the shining. R256 yes! Sandra Bernhard ! And Jerry Lewis & Robert DeNiro. (I thought The Joker was king of comedy meets taxi driver down to the deniro cameo) (i wonder how inside jerry lewis’ performance was ... knowing what has come out about jack paar & johnny carson) And somewhere above about christina ricci : she should’ve been up for the opposite of sex - without a doubt lisa kudrow & maybe even won. A personal one: Christopher Walken The Country Bears (not really but my sister & my nephew lived with us for awhile & this dvd was on a loop the ENTIRE they were at our house. I never- not once- got tired of gos performance. Maybe because i had to focus on something to deal with how often I had to watch it. Or else he was flat out brilliant)
|by Anonymous||reply 263||08/05/2020|
This is a weird one but I would take away Alicia Vikander’s win for The Danish Girl and trade it in for her unforgettable performance in Ex-Machina that same year.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||08/05/2020|
R264 totally agree. She’s amazing in “Ex Machina” and deserved the statue for that instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||08/06/2020|
Divine in Hairspray, Irma P. Hall for Ladykillers & Rodney Dangerfield for Natural Born Killers. All 3 should have received Best Supporting Actor/Actress noms. The recognition for Divine & Hall would have been fair, but Dangerfield should have gotten the nomination & the statue. It's one of the most disturbing portrayals of someone completely unhinged in a film, even if the film itself wasn't award worthy.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||08/06/2020|
I was going to suggest Divine for Hairspray! I think it's a great performance. But would it be Supporting Actor...or Actress?
|by Anonymous||reply 267||08/06/2020|
Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2. I watched it again recently and was caught off guard by how strong Hamilton was in it. The movie is showing signs of age, but Hamilton's performance is still surprising and powerful.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||08/06/2020|
Diana Scarwid for Mommie Dearest. She got a nom the previous year for Inside Moves, so why not make it two in a row?
|by Anonymous||reply 269||08/06/2020|
The younger girl did a much better job than Scarwid. Scarwid's southern accent popped up a few times.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||08/06/2020|
I actually thought Diana Scarwid was eerily good in Mommie Dearest playing a young woman who is essentially dead inside after years of abuse. By the time we get to her older version of Christina, she’s practically given up; Mara’s younger Christina is still feisty and hasn’t yet totally submitted to Joan.
“That was a lie” is a great moment of hers in the film.
Scarwid was wonderful and humane in Inside Moves - that nomination must have been such a nice surprise for her that year.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||08/06/2020|
[quote]This is a weird one but I would take away Alicia Vikander’s win for The Danish Girl and trade it in for her unforgettable performance in Ex-Machina that same year.
Similarly, Dennis Hopper got nominated for Hoosiers, when he should have been nominated for Blue Velvet.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||08/06/2020|
R267...I'd say actor, since Divine himself always maintained that he was a male actor playing a female character in Divine. Shortly before his death he had played male parts & promoted them out of his Divine drag. Also, he was slated to become a regular on Married With Children playing a male character.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||08/06/2020|
I'm still upset Paul Dano got no love for "Love & Mercy". Jeez, at least throw him a nomination! He could also have easily gotten one for "There Will Be Blood."
|by Anonymous||reply 274||08/06/2020|
Let's not get carried away with this "Divine was a great actor" nonsense. He was a spirited amateur at best who cut his teeth acting in oddities with their own peculiar demands (eating shit, for example). He had no technique, his line readings were unimaginative and he was mostly one-note and flat. In another universe he might have been a Laird Cregar/Victor Buono type but they were both superb, trained actors. Divine most definitely was not. Stop confusing a persona you think is edgy with actually having talent.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||08/06/2020|
Charlize Theron in Young Adult. I thought it was a braver performance than the one she gave in Monster, because she didn't have all those layers of makeup and weight gain to hide behind. The character was so unlikable that it probably scared the voters.
Toni Collette in Hereditary as well. I watch her in that movie and I'm exhausted. I have no idea how she did that.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||08/06/2020|
I'm watching HEREDITARY for the second time, and as some reviewers noted, it's an interesting experience seeing it again from the start when you know what's going on.
Toni Colette is great. She can release emotion naturally, and comes across as someone who's actually feeling something.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||08/06/2020|
I am repeating myself, but Richard Dreyfuss should have got the Oscar for Close Encounters, not The Goodbye Girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||08/06/2020|
I thought Scarwid was fine in Mommie Dearest. I always love that she underacted in contrast to Faye's overacting. It's what makes the dynamic so fun to watch.
I don't think her career deserved to lose momentum after that. She was wonderful in Inside Moves.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||08/06/2020|
Theron was tremendous in Young Adult.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||08/06/2020|
Rock Hudson for Pretty Maids All in a Row. Spoiler: he was the murderer but fled the country after faking his death.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||08/06/2020|
R275, I did not think Divine was a great actor. Which is why his performance in Hairspray was so remarkable. He did more than just fulfill the role - he convinced me that he really knew who Edna Turnblad was and inhabited her with the ease I usually expect of a De Niro or an Olivier. He was so happily buoyant after his character's make-over that he was actually weirdly attractive . Some of that might just be charisma and the oddity of the role. But it was screen gold in context.
i do agree that his previous roles with Waters (or elsewhere) were largely schlock, if classic, immortal schlock. I don't think he would have claimed otherwise.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||Last Friday at 1:03 AM|
This might be against the grain, but Reese Witherspoon in American Psycho managed to make her character both horrible and sympathetic at once and without an ounce of camp. The whole cast was great, but she really brought a flat satire to life.
Guinevere Turner, in the same film, as one of Bateman's nasty ex-girlfriends, was hilariously funny and nailed the type completely. She should have gotten a nod as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||Last Friday at 1:32 AM|
Agreed, r283. Everyone talks about that movie like it’s a one-man show for Bale, but in truth the whole cast expertly walks a fine line.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||Last Friday at 1:42 AM|
Thanks, R284. Not that Bale didn't do a fantastic job - he carried it off effortlessly and without any winking. but the whole cast really was top-notch. The woman who played Christy was so moving in her ability to convey wariness and a history of past abuse (that did her no good in the end). I felt like the whole cast deserved a nomination.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||Last Friday at 1:50 AM|
NATALIE WOOD OWNS THIS THREAD
|by Anonymous||reply 286||Last Friday at 4:38 AM|
Oupppss she was nominated, sorry. Still robbed.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||Last Friday at 4:40 AM|
Florence Pugh in “Midsommar”
|by Anonymous||reply 288||Last Friday at 5:43 AM|
That reminds me of Mrs. Pugh in "Annie".
|by Anonymous||reply 289||Last Friday at 6:57 AM|
Elisabeth Moss should have been nominated for Her Smell.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||Last Friday at 4:10 PM|
JoBeth Williams in Poltergeist. She anchors the entire film which isn't easy to do, but she makes it look so effortless and you always buy her as a real mom. She has such warmth.
Dee Wallace in Cujo does something very similar and Stephen King even said she deserved a nomination for her work in that film.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||Last Friday at 5:01 PM|
[quote]r291 JoBeth Williams in Poltergeist. She anchors the entire film
Another role Tuesday Weld turned down.
She really, really didn't want to be super famous, it seems.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||Last Friday at 7:07 PM|
Lucie Arnaz turned down Poltergeist too. Sue Mengers told her to do some dumb comedy instead. I don't think Lucie ever got another film role. (She was hot off of The Jazz Singer at the time.)
BTW this isn't a Gary Morton told Lucy story...
|by Anonymous||reply 293||Last Friday at 7:21 PM|
R292 Tuesday Weld turned down everything in the late 60’s / early 70’s -making way for Faye Dunaway (tuesday turned down bonnie ) & for some of the bigger roles of jane fonda (they shoot horses, klute) She was one of those from birth child actors that wanted a normal life as she got older. Norma rae , frances, rosemary’s baby were others she turned down. She’ll never do it but she should write a book.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||Last Friday at 7:32 PM|
I think Tuesday Weld was originally cast in The Stepford Wives and dropped out of that or was fired. Johanna Cassidy had the Paula Prentis role first too.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||Last Friday at 7:45 PM|
Helen Mirren and (hot, now dead) Neil Dickson for Excalibur (1981). I finally watched that film, 39 years after its release. Neil Dickson was also in the 1984 mini-series The Last Days of Pompeii, which is on YouTube. Hot Neil, hot gladiators!
|by Anonymous||reply 296||Last Friday at 8:10 PM|
Mae West for Sextette (1978, her last film).
|by Anonymous||reply 297||Last Friday at 10:52 PM|
I love Tuesday Weld in Looking for Mr. Goodbar. Such a well-deserves nod.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||Last Friday at 11:51 PM|
Tuesday is CRAZY. Why are so many good actresses bipolar ?
|by Anonymous||reply 299||Last Saturday at 12:04 AM|
Plus she didn't ' turn down' Rosemary 's baby. Polanski wanted her or Fonda, but Evans preferred Farrow who was a bigger name thanks to Peyton Place and her marriage to Sinatra. I watched a Polanski interview a while ago. I don't think they even offered to test Weld.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||Last Saturday at 12:08 AM|
R291 Dee Wallace does that in E.T. as well. The kids were great and understandably pulled all the focus, but she really anchors the film.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||Last Saturday at 7:09 AM|
R291- One of my favorite performances ever is JoBeth Williams in Poltergeist. Charisma up the wazoo. She owned every scene and really was SO likable.
And in the emotional scenes she nails every one. And the chemistry with her and Craig T Nelson was insane.
She was wonderful. I was only 5 when it came out and I wonder if there was any talk of her getting nominated at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||Last Saturday at 7:21 AM|
[quote] I was only 5 when it came out and I wonder if there was any talk of her getting nominated at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||Last Saturday at 7:45 AM|
JoBeth Williams is definitely one of the most overlooked performances Osar-wise. Go to any film board, especially horror film boards, and her performance is repeatedly mentioned as "should have been nominated".
I agree with others that her performance is exceptional. She brings an emotional depth that I don't a lot of others could have brought, especially when you have to make audiences believe that your daughter has been kidnapped by a poltergeist. Also agree that Dee Wallace was excellent in E.T. and deserved a nomination.
If the rumours are true that Spielberg directed most of Poltergeist, then that would mean he directed TWO performances in 1982 that deserved to be nominated.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||Last Saturday at 8:12 AM|
Dee still works all the time in mostly low grade horror films that go straight to DVD or streaming, but she seems to make a decent living. I wish someone would give her a really great role again. She's always the best thing in all of those movies she's in, but she's never given much to do.
JoBeth seems to have fallen off of the face of the earth completely. The last time I saw her in something big was that remake of Sybil.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||Last Saturday at 9:08 AM|
Both Dee and JoBeth deserved to have bigger careers. They worked steadily after ET and Poltergeist but they should have continued to get A-list roles and both should have Oscars by now. JoBeth was really great in Desert Bloom, which I mentioned earlier in this thread. So many of the cast members in that film deserved an Oscar nomination.
I am not a huge fan of Maggie Gyllenhaal but I thought she was great in Sherrybaby.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||Last Saturday at 9:19 AM|
R59, I watched Rosemary’s Baby a couple nights ago - it’s included on Amazon Prime right now - and enjoyed it as much as always. I’d never considered any other actress in Mia’s role, but OMG - you’re absolutely right about Sandy Dennis. What fun it would be to watch that version of the film!
|by Anonymous||reply 307||Last Saturday at 9:42 AM|
I've had friends who have met Dee at horror conventions and they always gush about her, saying that the reason she must have been so good in those mom roles was because she has such natural warmth to her. She's always mentioned as one of everyone's favorite guests.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||Last Saturday at 11:09 AM|
I also think JoBeth’s harrowing third act in Poltergeist (when you kind of think everything’s fine and it’s all over) really should have solidified her Oscar nomination. She has some truly incredible moments at the end.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||Last Saturday at 11:24 AM|
I'm sure someone said this upthread, but horror movies and comedies never get the award consideration they deserve.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||Last Saturday at 11:27 AM|
R310 Or musicals for the most part.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||Last Saturday at 11:35 AM|
[quote] But both performances were praised at the time as well as Vanessa Redgrave, who I think played the agent, but I really don’t recall her character or performance much.
Oldman got a BAFTA nomination, Redgrave got nominations from Bafta and Golden Globe nominations.
The scenes where Redgrave visits Wallace Shawn to discuss the book and treats Lindsay Duncan like shit are amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||Last Saturday at 11:38 AM|
True fear is one the hardest things for an actor to capture on film, because we see it so rarely and those actors are never rewarded for it.
Look at Marilyn Burns at the end of Texas Chainsaw Massacre and tell me that's not a great performance. Or Jamie Lee Curtis in the Halloween movies. You always believe she's terrified for her life.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||Last Saturday at 4:29 PM|
It's true. Actresses in horror movies are often dismissed as just the "final girls" (which has its pros and cons) but there are many who give great performances like Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween or Amy Steel in Friday the 13th Part 2. Maybe they are not Oscar-worthy but they are very good in those films, and they've become icons at horror conventions because of those performances. Same with Kate Hudson and Gena Rowlands in The Skeleton Key. I love their performances in that film. Maybe not exactly Oscar-worthy but they both had a difficult job pulling off what they had to do in that film and they did a great job.
Thank God Sigourney Weaver was nominated for Aliens. It may not be a horror film per se, but it has elements of horror in it and Aliens is definitely in a genre that isn't awarded by the Academy unless for technical awards. It may have been a weak year for women that year in movies, but you can't say that performance didn't deserve a nomination. Weaver is outstanding in the film. And her performance is even better in the Director's Cut when Sigourney Weaver discovers what happened to her daughter.
Angie Dickinson is another who should have been nominated for Dressed to Kill. She was great in that. Made you care for her and her plight.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||Last Saturday at 5:05 PM|
Horror demands extreme emotions and many actors are uncomfortable with even trying, because they might come across as silly looking or overacting. It's such a delicate balance and so few do it well which might be why many women who do mostly horror are known as "scream queens" because you can depend on them to deliver a believable performance in a film of that sort.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||Last Saturday at 5:25 PM|
Jamie Lee Curtis usually looks terrified that her penis will slip out of her costume - -
Why has she never come out as a hermaphrodite? Everyone knows, so it just makes her look uptight.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||Last Sunday at 6:55 AM|