Why do heteros think homo sex is gross?

American men are far worse at this than European men, who seem to just shrug it off.

Some straight men I know claim the thought of someone sticking it in someone's ass is just disgusting and the can't wrap their heads around it. I can't understand why anyone would think a vagina is hot.

This is such an interesting and timely question.

And you like thinking about eating pussy OP?

The "ass is gross" trope is a non starter these days. Straight people ass fuck all the time now.

It’s usually because straights equate gay sex with anal sex, and associate the ass with nothing but poo. They clearly don’t know the lengths we bottoms go to in order to make it spotless and inviting.

Because pee is less gross than shit. It really is that simple.

Straight people ass fuck all the time now.

Troof. I saw two of em doing it in the cereal aisle over at the Shop-Rite.

And R6, we tops thank you very much for that. We know, and we appreciate you - genuinely.

It's a visceral reaction. It's not rational.

Rational straight people aren’t thinking about gay sex, just like rational gay people don’t think about straight sex. It doesn’t interest you, so you don’t think about it. It shouldn’t gross you out because why would any rational individual spend any time thinking about sex that is not of interest to them?

America would never have elected Pete. The image of anal sex in the White House is just too much for too many straight voters.

I have a straight friend who made a mildly homophobic comment regarding gay men's sex lives and I pointed out to my hetero buddy that "gay men do all the EXACT same sex acts that hetero couples do in bed" and it blew his mind when I worded it that way. It had never occurred to him that all the sex acts were exactly the same! He later told me that that realization changed something in him, and he feels less judgemental of gay men based on the "taboo" of gay sex. He even likes to get fingered now when he gets blowjobs from his girlfriend!!!

We converted another one, Gurlz!!!!

Heteros don't think that lesbian (homo female) sex is gross at all

They love that shit

I'm a gay man, and even I hate assholes & the smell of shit.

Because my pastor told me it is

I advised a male student organization on a nearby college campus. I told them I was gay before I even started working with them. They were cool with it. They asked questions about gay sex. They assumed all gay men practice anal sex. I broke that theory wide open. Then one week, two of the “straight” guys gave each other blowjobs after a party. Everyone knew about it. They confessed. It was all a fun circumstance to the entire group. No judgment, no derision. I was very pleased by that.

[quote]Why do heteros think homo sex is gross?

It's only gross if you're doing it right.

And exactly what kind of male student organization were you advising R17?

Cause you’re fat.

Fatty.

Shit Stinks.

I don’t.

Its instinctive behaviour, if everyone was turned on by gay sex there would be no more babies.

Because all sex is pretty disgusting, when approached logically. It's only because we have biological drive that overpowers disgust when aroused, that we're able to have sex. When it doesn't involve your personal arousal, it's easy to think of it as everything from offputting, to being downright disgusting.

Quit lumping all straights into one group. Lots of straights do the same stuff we do.

But they don't regard it the same way, R25.

For a lot of straight men, anal and blow jobs with women are as much about getting off through the thrill of degrading/hurting the woman as actual sexual pleasure. These men would never dream of allowing her to peg them, for example. They don't want to be recipients of what they dish out, and they can't wrap their heads around another dynamic attached to these acts.

[R26] Nailed, or pegged it.

what r 26 said; also "buttsex hurts", and straight men, for all their bravado, are wimps, every last one of 'em

It’s the butt, Bob.

For fucks sake, this needs to be explained....AGAIN...

When it comes to sex....there's either LUST or DISGUST....no in between....

If there's no lustfull inclination during a sexual situation, all you will have is a repulsive reaction.

If this were not true, EVERYONE WOULD BE BISEXUAL!

That never happened R17.

i don't think homo sex is gross. i think shit is gross.

straight men, on the other hand, have problems of all sorts. societally induced, mainly and mutually reinforced among their group. to the point that this becomes an individual mental problem.

from my own ethnological research, some of them get extremely nervous when you even try to stimulate their prostate, and some when you even mention that you might try. even if you are a chick, and they seem to be into you.

It’s the association with fecal matter, you obtuse turd.

Also, they are no more into guys than gay men are into girls

[QUOTE] For a lot of straight men, anal and blow jobs with women are as much about getting off through the thrill of degrading/hurting the woman as actual sexual pleasure. These men would never dream of allowing her to peg them, for example. They don't want to be recipients of what they dish out, and they can't wrap their heads around another dynamic attached to these acts.

Some gay men fall under the same category, R26. We’re called tops.

Disgust is essential to homophobia. It's usually disgust at themselves.

I think straight sex is gross. Nothing specific about it, it's just gross. Vaginas are gross.

So it makes perfect sense to me that some straight people would think gay sex is gross. Nothing specifically, just the concept of gay sex.

Once again - it is a learned and conditioned response perpetually reinforced from early childhood on, and therefore embraced to solidify their mutual acceptance. Even so, the propensity exists in all of us - Even in the 71 year old red neck racist fucking ASSHOLE next door!

there was just an article about how straight guys getting pegged is the new rage

People are taught to think it’s disgusting. Think of it like this, the thought of eating a dog or a cat is disgusting to us in the west, but in some Asian countries, it’s very common and considered a delicacy.

I am ok with that. I think het secks is gross. Like ewwwww gross. Really. Let the the breeders delude themselves all they want. Lol.

It's projection. Many straights immediately equate gay sex with anal sex. And they have no frame of reference other than their own unwashed, filthy, fecal encrusted buttholes. They probably imagine everyone walks around in such a foul state. The thought of anal sex then becomes sickening. They have to be educated that people actually clean themselves "down there" in general and prepare for anal sex specifically.

[quote]R13 I pointed out to my hetero buddy that "gay men do all the EXACT same sex acts that hetero couples do in bed" and it blew his mind when I worded it that way. It had never occurred to him that all the sex acts were exactly the same!

Maybe you’ll get the Nobel Peace Prize?

I’m sure you have the acceptance speech already written.

Any form of disgust at any form of sex is puerile. Immature! Infantile!

It’s the butt stuff. Being penetrated as a man is widely thought of as weird, unmanly, degrading, immoral, twisted, and painful, but it is usually not thought of as gross. If anything, the top is thought of as gross because he is putting his penis in an ass.

Stop with the top shaming, R45. It’s harmful and unnecessary.

R45 straight guys put their cocks into women’s asses all the time. Try again.

But people reflexively think of Anal sex when they think of men having sex with each other. They rarely think anal sex when pondering men having sex with women.

For heteros the dichotomy is what’s arousing. Men want women because they’re small, weak, emotional, delicate and hourglass shaped. They need protection but are very nurturing and tender.

Women want men because they’re big and strong, levelheaded, sturdy and solid. They protect you physically but at the same time are emotionally vulnerable.

They’re like puzzle pieces that fit together. To straights gay sex is like trying to put the same two puzzle pieces together. I get that. But what they don’t realize is that not all men fit the typical description and some exceptional men might be, from an emotional perspective, quite different. wanting very different things from straight men, needing different things in their lives.

The majority of straight guys under 40 will prefer fucking women in the assholes, rather than their pussies.

It’s also associated with prison sex. A lot of gross dirty butts among the prison population I would imagine.

R35 Thanks for stating the obvious, DL user "MascDomTop". Is that also your nifty pen name?

[quote]America would never have elected Pete. The image of anal sex in the White House is just too much for too many straight voters.

Even though Bill Clinton probably had it with his interns.

"Why do heteros think homo sex is gross?"

WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT HETEROS THINK????

Other than a hetero.

They've been carefully taught.

Something to do with shit and shitholes? But like R54 said, who the fuck cares. We are what we are and we don't feast on heteroes' charity.

[quote]American men are far worse at this than European men, who seem to just shrug it off.

That's an understatement. European men don't pretend not to understand the mechanics of gay sex so you don't get the "you put what where?" questions you might get from a six-year-old.

They don't. They think other straights think gay sex is gross, and so they proclaim that they do. It's just like religion.

r23 Many gay men are quite adept at putting a cock into a warm, moist confined space, leaving it inserted while "rummaging around," ejaculating, withdrawing, and then going about their business. If the ACTUAL survival of the species depended on gay men impregnating women, you'd find plenty who COULD and WOULD have procreative sex with females. Hell, at that point, they might even be offering a bounty.

Seeing this thread is very timely for me because I was just watching a str8 pron (the guys were hawt) and the gurl had two studs in her vagina. I felt sick. Dreadful close-ups. PLUS the guys were fucking both her holes. You see a mass of anal in str8 pron. I always wonder why.

Many of the very straight gurls and guys I know have done anal. These are the hypocrites who are so "grossed out" by gay sex.

I don't think it's anything to do with putting dick in ass, as many have pointed out straight people do this all the time - straight anal sex is happening a lot more than gay anal sex is (just by sheer numbers).

It's just because it's the 'other'. A straight person cannot understand what is attractive about the same sex, and that manifests as disgust because it is not something they have any interest in experiencing. A lot of gay men feel the exact same way about the thought of vaginas and vaginal sex though.

Not every straight person is disgusted by it (just probably indifferent to it) the same as not every gay man is disgusted by vagina. I'm gay but I can watch straight porn and still get turned on by it, vaginas don't arouse me but they don't disgust me either. I probably wouldn't watch lesbian porn though as I need there to be a man involved to find it arousing (and preferably two - DP scenes are usually fucking hot as long as the woman isn't screaming like a banshee).

Let’s face the facts: Sexual encounters of every stripe are not the most hygienic of activities in which one might engage. It’s often what I’m doing is mature, adult interaction and what you’re doing is disgusting and perverse. I suggest a more tolerant attitude of others, because there will always be those who are more vanilla than you who would freely condemn what you fancy as sick and loathsome.

[quote]Let’s face the facts: Sexual encounters of every stripe are not the most hygienic of activities in which one might engage. It’s often what I’m doing is mature, adult interaction and what you’re doing is disgusting and perverse.

Americans regard sex as dirty and shameful and unhygienic—and disgusting if done by anyone other than themselves.

That's what happens when you let Puritans colonize an entire continent.

R60, the problem is you look to porn to gauge what is normal

I don't really believe they all think that way... aside from buttsex... They often are uninitiated into the cleaning regimen good bottoms engage in. I find it more puzzling why so many gay men are obsessed with vaginas, and constantly saying how gross they are on DL. I should think the normal inclination is if something seems so rather unappealing, one doesn't really spend too much time thinking about it.

They've found a new way to shame gay men for only liking men that replaces the religious crap with postmodernist crap.

Do any of you have straight friends? Any of you at all? Because you seem to get all your data from the internet and your imaginations.

It's all bull shit hypocrisy. Speaking of men - they have no problem with girl on girl lesbian sex, right? Well, that's homo sex as well. "Yeah, but.....yeah, but....." Ah, shut the fuck up asshole - there is no "Yeah, but."

[quote][R60], the problem is you look to porn to gauge what is normal

What part of

[quote]Many of the very straight gurls and guys I know have done anal.

don't you understand?

Additionally, men are truly perplexed how a man can be attracted to another man. You often hear them marvel, “How can a man find a hairy man attractive?!” Heterosexual men are generally attracted to soft, pretty, dainty things, so the idea a man could be attracted to rugged, muscled, or hairy people really freaks them out. So often, they comment it’s gross to be attracted to a hairy man, with emphasis on the “hairy.”

I've always thought that straight men's violent reaction to gay sex has its source in misogyny. Giving a blowjob is vile and only fit for women to do. Same with getting fucked. When another man takes on either of those roles, straight men go crazy.

Half of those "straight" men could easily be fooled by a crossdresser.

OP's real question is why won't straight guys have sex with him.

All heterosexuals are this guy...

You know, there was a time when “kiss my ass” was an insult. Assholes, poo and painting your dick with poo is what is revolting. Also, straight men see other men in general like brothers and exactly the same as themselves. They don’t see anything of value sexually in another man. A straight guy being attracted to another guy would be like being attracted to yourself and getting turned on by yourself.

You have to stop seeing it through a gay mind to understand why it’s disgusting to them. Would you fuck your brother op? Gay men on the other hand, in a sense, fetishize men. They are attracted to something they already have but in an idealized form.

R7 pee doesn’t come out of the vagina.

[quote]You have to stop seeing it through a gay mind

Actually, no I don't.

Pee comes out really damned close to the vagina, R76. Close enough for government work.

There is more than one reason. Disgust at butt stuff; repulsion toward men being sexually passive/penetrated; inability to identify with homosexual interest; and social expectation are all major reasons.

Disgust as male homosexuality has two focuses: 1) anal sex; and 2) men who are penetrated

I think there are more than two, R80.

I haven't read the entire thread so forgive me if this has been stated. Homophobia, at it's core, is rooted in sexism. It always comes down to a man getting fucked up the ass or being passive in a sexual encounter -- like a woman. "Acting like a woman," when you are a man, is the worst thing you can be.

R12 and it doesn’t help that Butt is in his last name.

R82 is correct. Many or most Antigay insults focus on repulsion at men being effeminate or being sexually passive (coc*sucker, takes it up the ass, fairy, etc).

Short answer: Society and the Christian Right Wing branded it as gross and pushed that belief on impressionable kids who grew into adults who, whenever they come across the term "gay sex" they look in their conditioned minds for the supposed appropriate response and it's, according to their programming, "gross". For straight people that's it, but for gay kids and adults that's when it's really getting complicated when they are supposed to be grossed out by sex, but can't stop having it, because it feels so right to them.

It's the anal sex. Women don't enjoy it, it can be messy?

[quote]it can be messy

With any kind of luck.

Something to do with the lack of natural lubrication also. It's considered unnatural because it's using the asshole for something it's not meant to be used for.

I know a lot of women , who claim to be pro gay, who are grossed out by 2 guys together, but are fine, indifferent, or even intrigued by 2 of more women together, to the delight of straight men are everywhere.

It's become the norm for women to be bi or experiment with girls, male homosexuality is still the huge taboo on society

And no one tries to change that taboo, not even GLAAD, they're useless

They like cake, not Sodomy.

[quote] It's considered unnatural because it's using the asshole for something it's not meant to be used for.

So God, or whoever, made a mistake by placing the prostrate right up there where fingers (fists) and dicks can trigger a guy's orgasm?

[quote]It's just because it's the 'other'. A straight person cannot understand what is attractive about the same sex, and that manifests as disgust because it is not something they have any interest in experiencing. A lot of gay men feel the exact same way about the thought of vaginas and vaginal sex though.

Most gay men are not disgusted by straight sex and attraction because it's ingrained as the default. I can't think of a gay man being violently repulsed by straight porn. Interestingly, we did a survey in college and one of the questions we asked was if subjects had watched more than 3 minutes of gay porn. They all had.

Male homosexuality or bisexuality will never be considered trendy or hip by straight people, ie majority of society, at best it's tolerated, there's a deep disdain for men who love other men, it's ingrained in people's DNA

And you would think that a lesbian, a person who is both gay and a woman, would have it worse, but nope, that alone tells you that most of the "feminist movement" is based on lies

Gay men, especially flamboyant ones, get it the worst out of everyone

[quote]you would think that a lesbian, a person who is both gay and a woman, would have it worse, but nope, that alone tells you that most of the "feminist movement" is based on lies

It doesn't tell me that in any way whatsoever.

How does it tell you that?

Even liberal women often find it effeminate men weird at best, gross at worst. Deep doen They think it’s bizarre that a man, with all the privileges of maleness, would “choose” to emulate a woman in any way, especially by being penetrated. I’ve heard liberal women say the are weirded out by fem men despite being nominally progay

Wow, someone's feeling sorry for himself today, R93. Hope you're able to turn your life around!

Yet straight men often have anal sex with their girlfriends and sometimes the girlfriends dildo them back

R95 but if a guys masculine , he's still not imitating women

Straight women really need to stay in their own lane in regards to male/male desire and sexuality

Two guys together, is very different in every way, than a man and a woman, in a lot of ways it's DEFINITION of male bonding and brotherhood

Why do some people find broccoli gross? It’s just not their thing.

Because homosexuals "eat da poopoo"

The thing that sank Michael Sam wasn't that he is gay, but that display at the draft.

Well, it looked staged and melodramatic. He should have focused on being good at football

R72 I agree with you, I do think homophobia has roots in misogyny for sure - the female seen as 'lesser' and therefore a man who (in their minds) takes on any kind of traditionally-female role (in sex or not) is also 'lesser'.

Homosex is the last, great stabilizer in the sense that no matter what they might do, at least they've never done THAT! They can lie, cheat, steal. They can fornicate, commit adultery, even RAPE! They can hand their 15 year old son some condoms, and their 15 year old daughter the pill - hell, they're not dumb! They can even KILL, for God's sake, but in the end at least they'd NEVER done THAT!

It's all purely psychological, and I'll state it again - it's purely a learned and conditioned response. They're fond of saying that YOU made the CHOICE to be gay. Apparently, they don't realize that by their own opinion of choice, they too made the CHOICE to be hetero which indicated that they were also faced with the OPTION for the homosex. At the heart of the matter is that the propensity exists within them as well, but they have suppressed it with such an intensity that the notion generates immediate disgust - BUT it's STILL THERE! This is why it's such a huge issue. It's not that you do - rather, it's that they DON'T and YOU need to be like them - assimilate now!

[R103] Absolutely. Straight men are usually way more bothered than it than women, and the more bothered they are, the more scared they are by their own desires.

[quote] The thing that sank Michael Sam wasn't that he is gay, but that display at the draft.

The guy could've been a saint and still get the "not good enough for professional sports!" credit, because there could be dozens of straight guys who perform worse, but he's still the one who doesn't belong. No matter how good a gay guy is for the homophobes he'll never be good enough compared to the straight guys.

Another thing, straight men are unable to relate to women's complaints about sexually harassed or being objectified, thinking it's not a big deal and they should be flattered at the attention - "I wouldn't mind if I got the same attention from the ladies". They only snap into understanding when asked how they would feel if they were harassed and catcalled by another man.

[quote]Another thing, straight men are unable to relate to women's complaints about sexually harassed or being objectified, thinking it's not a big deal and they should be flattered at the attention - "I wouldn't mind if I got the same attention from the ladies".

Never heard that before.

But they love and adore women's bodies so much that they just can't identify with a man who doesn't feel the same.

"People like people who are like themselves".

Cause men are ugly and disgusting

My straight friends admit they just can’t get over a guy who takes D, orally, and especially anally. Hey view it as surrendering one’s manhood and choosing to act like a woman. They feel it’s insane to willingly be sexually passive. They support gay rights, but can’t comprehend a man choosing to be sexually penetrated

R66, Who are these 'gay men obsessed with vagina'? Lol Besides the porn sick losers that lurk around here I hardly ever see any actual gay men mentioning anything about vaginas.

R111 Not op, but are you fucking blind? People on here constantly make fun of vaginas or call them gross. You can see it daily

"Her pussy stinks" is a fundamental joke here.

Ignorance. Their sex is disgusting and smelly.

R113, I find DLers to be atypical of regular, mainstream gay Americans

Well that would make a good thread topic, R115. If its true it is probably for the better.

What's the difference? Are regular mainstream American gays not into straight guys or shaming femmes?

R110 but this isn't just straight men. How many tops get the appeal of being fucked?

True. People generally view being penetrated as passive, degrading, unmanly. Even liberal women and men tend to think this, even if they never say it

After reading this thread my question is why do we give straights the benefit of the doubt that it is all about assholes. Straight men will pay ugly women to suck them and fuck them in the ass. It is really about three issues. Gay sex represents an equality in sex most straight men aren't willing to share- part of the turn on is the weakness of women. Men assume that straight sex usually means the man is in ultimate control. Gay sex reeks of lack of control. Second, straight men know what gay men do. Their initial reaction is usually based in fear- fear of God, fear of family and friends, even fear that they might be turned on. Finally those men are usually the first who are turned on.

r108. You don't think getting sexually objectified and harassed by another man gives straight men perspective of what women are constantly subjected to?

HIV only reinforced the ewww reflex

Bump

R2 is exactly correct. R5, if a straight guy is butt fucking a woman, that's one thing. But the vast majority of straight men do not want a woman slipping a finger up his bunghole when she's fellating him, much less using a dildo to fuck him. That's "gay" to them.

Entering a guy allows him to show his vulnerability. That's what I love about anal sex. I am comfortable with myself and with my partner to such an extant, that I am willing to give all to him.

It's all about emotional openness, and there are a great many men out there (straight and gay), who won't or can't be emotionally available.

Male-Male physical contact is acceptable in sports. And professional sports is one of the last bastions of homophobia. And it's incredibly homoerotic. Look at American football. Take the uniform: It's a parody and a paean to the male physique. The shoulder-padded top tapering down to the ultra tight pants is an inverted penis. The three-quarter stance is a parody of taking it up the butt. Where does the QB place his hands to get the ball. They put the ball in the end zone or sack the QB. Yet, some American football players are amongst the most homophobic of men.

Did you shoot a load while you were typing that r124?

R124, you went too far with the football stuff, dude. 🙄

R125, LOL...not this time. But I have shot a load or two watching two guys play: Larry Fitzgerald and Jordy Nelson. Jeez, are they beautiful men and great athletes.

R126. haha! I was actually quoting from two academic articles I read years ago. But think about it...in a great many professional sports, you still have guys patting each other's butts for a home run, a TD, a goal, or basket shot. But they're getting away from that too. Today you have the chest bump, which is okay...but it's not a full hug.

And back to the football uniform. Your eyes are drawn to the laced up crotch and the guy's junk is emphasized. The rear view highlights the high and tight buttocks. Sports remains a safe space for men to touch each other's bodies and to put their bodies on display.

It goes against their nature so I find it normal that the thought of it can gross them out. The thought of heteros banging grosses me out.

Poop.

R127, talking like that makes it difficult for gay and bi male athletes.

I've asked and its the butt and shit thing. My straight buddies can't understand how sensitive the anus can be and how it could feel good to be fucked there. Also, the idea of shit and getting it on the penis is bothersome too.

R130, how so?

Butt stuff is gross to most