Trader Joe's wises up, reverses course, tells the leftist political-correctness mob 'no'
Time to boycott Trader Joe's and Aldi's
It kind of looks like it — Trader Joe's has decided to reverse course and not change all the brand labels of its products to satisfy the wokeness demands of a tiny, largely white, racism-parsing left-wing mob. Here's the statement:
They refute flat-out that their products are racist:
We want to be clear: we disagree that any of these labels are racist.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||08/01/2020|
Trader José etc is fun and kitsch and silly.
Trader Ming is lame, though, and doesn’t follow the “John” scheme. How about Trader Yo?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||07/30/2020|
Joe isn't short for John.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||07/30/2020|
Good for them. The closest one to me is about a 20 minute drive, so I'll start going more.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||07/30/2020|
Good for them. People who shop at Trader Joe’s aren’t about to stop going there. They have really unique items and you’d be hard-pressed to find another store that has all of those items. Nobody is actually going to boycott. they never do.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||07/30/2020|
seriously, the mob is violent towards trader Joe's. but the police got them, and we're a little safer for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||07/30/2020|
This restores my faith in humanity. If we keep calling cultural celebration cultural appropriation we’ll have nothing.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||07/30/2020|
Good for them. At most, you could say they're stupid (I don't even think that), but racist?
I bet VERY few people of these races/ethnicities remotely give a shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||07/30/2020|
The fact that this store has a traditionally male name is just another example of how the patriarchy works in our society. It’s a not-so-subtle message that men control all life on earth, the fruit of humanity’s labors, and what we are able to put in our bodies. However, they’re the only store nearby that carries a certain kind of flour I need for baking. But I’m only buying the flour.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||07/30/2020|
Good, I'm glad they're not backing down. The children and their foolishness will give us a board bland world.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||07/30/2020|
Not the first white nationalist fake news peddling website DL'ers have gotten behind this month or week. A win for the master race! Trader Jose's Burritos remain the same! Yeah it's everyone that errs on the side of racial sensitivity that look stupid and outraged all the time.
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|by Anonymous||reply 11||07/30/2020|
Whites have already lost so much only having 95% of the power and privilege nowadays, losing Trader Mings Frozen Orange Chicken would just be too much to handle.
TJs better get used to a lot more of these deplorable brawls. They've invited them with their stupid announcement and reneging purely to appease an outraged white twitter mob
Two Trader Joe’s customers were asked to put on masks. They attacked employees instead, police said.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||07/30/2020|
[quote] Good, I'm glad they're not backing down. The children and their foolishness will give us a board bland world.
Making sure a package of frozen burritos and Dragon Lady stirfry remain under the same name is R9's antidote to a bland, hollow existence.
Trust me pal, that ship has already sailed!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||07/30/2020|
There's no connection between the US Aldis and Trader Joe's, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||07/30/2020|
I want to wake with you in my arms, R8.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||07/30/2020|
This current movement has lost my support, most of it is plain vandalism. I largely shop only Aldi, Costco and Trader-Jo's.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||07/30/2020|
r14, Trader Joe's and ALDI are both owned by the German company Albrecht Disounts.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||07/30/2020|
I noticed how Trader Joe's didn't introduce a "Trader Paddy's" for St. Patrick's Day. Their corned beef was just "Irish style corned beef." I say this being half Irish by ethnicity, not nationality. It takes nothing to not be a douchebag over something that might stereotype a minority within a majority. Apply your own advice and just get over it snowflakes.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||07/30/2020|
How long would "Trader Paddy's" be on the shelves before the "Doritos are turning kids gay" people would be shouting about White Genocide? It boggles the mind how many of you lack perspective on these things
|by Anonymous||reply 19||07/30/2020|
R18. I agree. Spend you energy on getting Biden elected.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||07/30/2020|
I'd much rather spend my energy getting a suitable candidate elected. Unfortunately, there isn't one.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||07/30/2020|
R22 The clearest way of saying "Trump's racism, women hatred and con artistry doesn't affect me so I can pretend both sides are the same."
|by Anonymous||reply 23||07/30/2020|
R23 clearly states that Dems may be bigoted, dictatorial hypocrites, but they're MY bigoted, dictatorial hypocrites.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||07/30/2020|
R24 Your lack of reading comprehension skills are to blame for your general ineptitude about the differences between the two major political parties.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||07/30/2020|
R8 what about 𝓙𝓮𝓷𝓷𝔂 𝓒𝓻𝓪𝓲𝓰? That’s a female named business I’m sure you frequent
|by Anonymous||reply 26||07/30/2020|
[quote]It’s a not-so-subtle message that men control all life on earth, the fruit of humanity’s labors, and what we are able to put in our bodies. However, they’re the only store nearby that carries a certain kind of flour I need for baking. But I’m only buying the flour.
It's nice to have principles as long as they don't inconvenience you none.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||07/30/2020|
My father's parents were both born in Ireland, and if Trader Joe's wants to rename their Irish Breakfast tea bags "Trader Sean's Irish Breakfast Tea Bags," I am fine with that. As long as they spell "Sean" correctly, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||07/31/2020|
"The children and their foolishness will give us a board bland world."
Who is this "us" you speak of. How long do you think you're going to live?
The world doesn't belong to you. Nobody is here to give it to you as a gift.
But I guess you feel super-important that Trader Giotto's ROCKED YOUR WORLD!
|by Anonymous||reply 29||07/31/2020|
R28 there are a few versions. But the most broadly accepted spelling is Seán, of which Sean is an anglicized bastardization.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||07/31/2020|
The Irish equivalent of "TRADER MING" wouldn't be "TRADER SEAN" but you already knew that.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||07/31/2020|
^^^ How is "Trader Ming's" racist? Isn't "Ming" every bit as common a first name in the East as "Joe" is in the West?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||07/31/2020|
It's morning and I just started drinking my coffee, so bear with me.
What I find interesting about "cultural appropriation" as a concept is that it's very ... well, American. Remember the white girl who wore the qipao prom dress and Woke Twitter lost its damn mind? Actual people in China were amused with the whole episode and didn't see the problem. It's the same with Japan ... they really don't see the problem with "cultural appropriation" (at least the Japanese people I've spoken to) as we in the US define it and they certainly don’t consider themselves an “oppressed minority” in any sense. (A friend of mine from Japan, upon arriving in the US, was aghast to learn that Japanese are considered “POC” here.)
To my mind, “cultural appropriation” is itself just another form of cultural imperialism … that is, it’s people in the US imposing their attitudes and ethos on other cultures, telling them how to feel and what should outrage them.
As an aside, I’ve also noticed a variation of this in discussions of “whiteness” … “white” imperialism, colonialism, slavery, oppression … is always the worst, most abhorrent example of those things. But they’re replicating what they’re trying to defeat: they’re placing whites at the top; whiteness is still the standard by which everyone else is measured, even in a negative sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||07/31/2020|
Don't get the cult following. Their food tastes like cardboard.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||07/31/2020|
r17 We've been over this many times. Aldi split into two separate companies: Aldi Nord and Aldi Sud. Trader Joe's is owned by Aldi Nord. The Aldi stores in the US are owned by Aldi Sud. Two different corporations.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||07/31/2020|
Save your energy for the real battles folks. This feels like much ado about nothing and I love Trader Joe's for standing up for what they want. Don't like it, take your hard earned money elsewhere. All in all, we've got much bigger issues to deal with. And by the way, Chinese folks I know are not offended by Trader Mings. Just ask your Chinese friends or colleagues. And if you don't know any to ask, you sure as hell should be speaking out on their behalf.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||07/31/2020|
[quote] And by the way, Chinese folks I know are not offended by Trader Mings. Just ask your Chinese friends or colleagues.
The Chinese folks you know amount to exactly... 0.
The most obvious way of saying "I've never met a Chinese person in my life but let me tell you why they don't think it's racist"
Tell me, R36, describe in detail the last dialogue you had with a Chinese friend or colleague about "Trader Mings?" This should be a really good story. There's no way you're a racist that will tokenize and concoct stories to dismiss something pointed out as offensive
|by Anonymous||reply 37||07/31/2020|
[quote] ^^ How is "Trader Ming's" racist? Isn't "Ming" every bit as common a first name in the East as "Joe" is in the West?
No. No it is not. This is the problem with the packaging.
Ming is a Chinese name. The most popular Chinese names as of 2020 were:
Zhang We, Wang Wei, Wang Fang, Li Wei, Wang Xiu Ying, Li Qiang whereas SEAN is Ireland's 5 most popular boy's name. Ming does not even make the list of most popular names. The Vietnamese form of Ming, Mihn, enjoys more popularity in Vietnam but is not in the top 100 most popular names.
Ming is just an exotic sounding name plucked from nowhere not based on popularity.
I love that bigots will pretend they're defending cultural exchange or some such nonsense while simultaneously demonstrating they know nothing about Chinese or Asian culture.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||07/31/2020|
R38 just wants the dumplings to be called Trader Wang's.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||07/31/2020|
If you don’t like it, don’t shop there. I don’t eat Chik-FIL-a, and I don’t care if other people do.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||07/31/2020|
[quote] Tell me, [R36], describe in detail the last dialogue you had with a Chinese friend or colleague about "Trader Mings?"
I'm not R36, but I can say that it's never come up in conversation with any of my friends, the majority of which are from various parts of Asia, because no one gives a fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||07/31/2020|
R33 gets it. No one really cares about this except a bunch of overly woke white people who feel helpless to stop real racism, so they try to pull stunts like this or getting that episode of The Golden Girls taken off of Hulu. Guess it makes them think they're making some small difference, but what does it really amount to in the long run? No one's life or self-esteem is going to be saved by doing things like this or telling white girls to not wear hoop earrings or Asian inspired prom dresses. So many people act like these things are equal to saying the N-word or wearing blackface and it's just not so.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||07/31/2020|
Trader Ming, Giotto, Jose, and I'll add Paddy to the mix too because that's what it would be if the Irish were still marginalized and treated as we once were in this country ..... and the other ethic marketing/stereotyping/branding all fall relatively low on the list of liberal priorities as far as how xenophobic bigotry is going to be combatted in real terms. This is why the only people talking about it are the white nationalist blogs like OP's link, Fox News personalities, and other alt right clowns that have declared the culture war won over a package of frozen stir fry. It's OVER FOR THE GLOBALISTS AND THE PC POLICE, they scream.
Their heads collectively exploded when Quaker nixed the racist Aunt Jemima mammy pancake box, so this is all they have left to keep them going.
To normal people it's just shocking how up in arms people got over the pancake box changing and the trader Joes announcement. Who cares?
Someone here actually said what a boring, bland world we would be living in if Trader Ming's became "Asian-style" whatever like the seasonal Irish products are. These losers are going to drive themselves into extinction. This is not what normal people are stressed over, but if there's a discussion to be had logic and truth absolutely favors changing something that promotes generalizing, exoticism and transforming entire ethic groups into a mythology like Native American branding often does. You cannot expect people with below average intelligence to interrogate the link between consumerism, branding, propaganda, xenophobia, mythical ethic stereotypes and ongoing bias and discrimination. It just won't happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||07/31/2020|
My partner's uncle and his cousins are Chinese. They have ZERO issue with Trader Joe's packaging. Again, we've got bigger issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||07/31/2020|
I keep reading scolding schoolmarms like R43 lecturing people about how they're "freaking out" about trivialities like label change.
No, dear. It's the "delicate flowers" (to use Muriel's language) who are circulating outraged petitions about it. I'm not outraged and I don't much care whether my spaghetti sauce is marketed as "Trader Joe's," "Trader Giotto's," or "Glorious Glitzy Garlic." I do personally think it would be silly for TJ's to capitulate, for two reasons. First, changing branding for potentially hundreds of labels is more labor-intensive and costly than you'd think; it's not trivial. But that's not the main reason. The main reason is because these SJWs, once they've tasted blood, will come back for more. They'll find something else offensive. Then something else. Like any bully, they only back away when their victim has a backbone.
But TJ's is a privately owned company and they can do exactly as they please. They can change product names. They can market chocolate-dipped shrimp or kim chee flavored ice cream, if that's what they think will work for their business. I shop there and would continue to shop there if they renamed all their products; it's just not important to me. The most this whole escapade got from me was a huge eyeroll.
R43, where are you finding these mythical people who are clutching pearls and swooning onto a fainting couch over this? It's the SJWs who really give a shit about this crap, not the people who roll their eyes and mutter "overprivileged brats with too much time on their hands" at the petition-signers. But thanks for the lecture telling us all to keep our wigs on.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||07/31/2020|
R45 Right on. You said it very well and I couldn't agree with you more.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||07/31/2020|
R45, you can find those pearl clutching fainters right here on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||07/31/2020|
Right wing trolls have arrived - we know the weekend has started!!
|by Anonymous||reply 48||07/31/2020|
[quote]It’s a not-so-subtle message that men control all life on earth, the fruit of humanity’s labors, and what we are able to put in our bodies.
I certainly think about this everytime I shop there. It's foremost in my mind.
These people are beyond tiresome.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||08/01/2020|
The best way to stop racism is to not be racist.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||08/01/2020|