Per report from Cambridge Review of International Affairs.
Isn't it time to put blame where it's due?
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Per report from Cambridge Review of International Affairs.
Isn't it time to put blame where it's due?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | August 1, 2020 12:06 AM |
[quote]Isn't it time to put blame where it's due?
Yes, American right-wing Christianity which is exporting its hate throughout the world.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | July 29, 2020 3:51 PM |
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by Anonymous | reply 2 | July 29, 2020 3:56 PM |
This is in the first paragraph:
"However, we also find that the evidence in favour of the claim that British imperialism ‘poisoned’ societies against homosexuality is weak. British colonies do not systematically take longer to decriminalize homosexual conduct than other European colonies."
Most former British colonies have had over 60 years minimum of independence. It's not the issue anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | July 29, 2020 3:59 PM |
Religion ruins people.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | July 29, 2020 4:05 PM |
Ignorant black Africans and their religion, egged on by American evangelicals.
Time to begin shooting the oppressors.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | July 29, 2020 4:21 PM |
[quote] Most former British colonies have had over 60 years minimum of independence. It's not the issue anymore.
Yes, it's an issue. All their laws were based on British laws and homophobia is baked into them
by Anonymous | reply 6 | July 30, 2020 7:19 PM |
Buggery for us, not for you savages.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | July 30, 2020 7:21 PM |
Interesting that French colonies didn't have the same anti-gay laws and norms.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | July 30, 2020 8:48 PM |
[quote] Most former British colonies have had over 60 years minimum of independence. It's not the issue anymore.
They were colonized for hundreds of years. 60 years is not a long time.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | July 30, 2020 9:26 PM |
I bet you'd find that American evangelicalism has taken root in many of those former colonies in the past 60 years, reinforcing preexisting anti-gay attitudes. I doubt the former British colony part is all that relevant. Most countries in the world are former British colonies. q
by Anonymous | reply 10 | July 30, 2020 9:31 PM |
The British and other European empires were in Africa, apart from the odd trade post and South Africa, for well under a century (do people not get taught about the 'Scramble for Africa' these days?). The main influences in Africa since the age of colonialism is the huge expansion at the expense of traditional religion of both Islam and Evangelical Christianity, the latter of which which the British Empire generally had little time for as it was viewed as disruptive.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | July 30, 2020 9:46 PM |
R9 Most countries in the interior of Africa were inaccessible and did not come under British rule until the 1860s-1890s. British colonial rule lasted roughly 40-80 years in the various countries.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | July 30, 2020 9:49 PM |
What R11 said. The vague conflation of Missionary Christianity and Imperial Britain has become one of the worst-offending aspects of contemporary liberal/SJW ideas about history. The missionaries' primary political purpose was actually ending slavery in Africa - meaning primarily Arab - slavery. The imperialists saw the missionaries as nuisances at best. Lazy progressives and liberals blame the missionaries for all of Africa's ills when it was really an early form of progressive politics there.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | July 30, 2020 9:58 PM |
Um, we’re complaining about modern day evangelical missionaries who are going from America to many of these countries and convincing them to pass anti-gay laws
by Anonymous | reply 14 | July 30, 2020 10:00 PM |
[quote] Most countries in the interior of Africa were inaccessible and did not come under British rule until the 1860s-1890s. British colonial rule lasted roughly 40-80 years in the various countries.
The British colonized like half the world. Evangelical missionaries from America are a big reason countries like Uganda are homophobic but not countries like India.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | July 30, 2020 10:24 PM |
Arguments about gay rights and HIV did not move the courts of India to decriminalize homosexuality, but finally pointing out that the laws were recent and British in origin and not a part of Indian tradition and pre colonial laws succeeded.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | July 31, 2020 7:39 AM |
[quote] American right-wing Christianity which is exporting its hate throughout the world.
What role did American right wing evangelicals play in the British install Sodomy laws in all their colonies?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | July 31, 2020 9:19 AM |
*installing
by Anonymous | reply 18 | July 31, 2020 9:19 AM |
The Caribbean and West Indies are conservative. I know several families from the various colonies, and they are strict and churchgoing. There is a great emphasis on behaving respectably and being educated. I consider that “proper”ness culturally British rather than religious most of the time. When they come to the US, they don’t want their kids mixing with the black American kids. Their kids are expected to study and not run around in the streets.
Just my observation. I went to school with a pair of Trinidadian girls. They were very prim and both became doctors. Very well-behaved and polite, everyone liked them, especially the teachers.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | July 31, 2020 9:20 AM |
You ignorant morons keep shoveling the White Europeans are the cause of homophobia in the 3rd world nonsense. While completely ignoring that 99.9% of third-world, former British colonies, whatever countries that socially abhor and criminalize homosexuality do so not because of 350 years of British domination, but because of 1,400 years of ISLAM.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | July 31, 2020 9:35 AM |
Some of you want to hate on redundant British behaviour from centuries ago. And some of you want to hate on American culture from this century.
Can't you SJW Whiners just decide who you want to hate?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | July 31, 2020 9:58 AM |
R9, except they weren't colonised for hundreds of years. A few were colonised for 100 years max. Most British colonies in Africa and elsewhere were colonised from the late 19th century to the mid-20th century, until 1960 the latest.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | July 31, 2020 10:06 AM |
The former British colonies that are homophobic are deeply religious. If the Church of England was the predominant sect in those countries you could possibly blame Britain, but it's not. You could blame Britain if the Commonwealth promoted old ideas from colonial times, but it promotes modern ideas of equality.
These countries could have overturned any anti-sodomy laws at any point, but they just don't want to.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | July 31, 2020 10:09 AM |
R17, can you explain why countries that have been independent for almost as long as they were British colonies still have 19th-century British sodomy laws, which Britain itself hasn't had for decades?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | July 31, 2020 10:10 AM |
Given Britain decolonized most of its African colonies in the early 60s and decriminalized homosexuality in 1967 you must think that if we'd hung onto them for just a bit longer gays imams and priests would all have formed a peace circle
by Anonymous | reply 25 | July 31, 2020 10:29 AM |
This person hates British culture despite being given a job at the University of London—
by Anonymous | reply 26 | July 31, 2020 11:43 AM |
I'm Joseph O'Mahoney and I hate British culture because . . . well, because it's my heritage to hate the English.
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