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Christopher Street. NYC. 1978 - Part II

We can continue yakking about the old days here... if we so puhlease.

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by Anonymousreply 6413 hours ago

This interesting conversation from the old thread was stalled before it came to a conclusion >

[quote]I thought Manatus was the old Claire. No? 19th @ 7th is Chelsea, not the Village.

by Anonymousreply 1Last Wednesday at 4:05 AM

What was the famous place on West Fourth Street - small, dark, narrow nr Sheridan Square? Must have closed 20 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 2Last Wednesday at 4:12 AM

Got it! The Bagel.

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by Anonymousreply 3Last Wednesday at 4:18 AM

Closed in 2003

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by Anonymousreply 4Last Wednesday at 4:19 AM

1959

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by Anonymousreply 5Last Wednesday at 4:23 AM

I was in the Tiffany Diner with several friends late one Saturday night. Every seat in the place was taken. After our meal, we decided to get dessert. I asked for apple pie. The waiter asked if I wanted ice cream with it and I said, "Yes." When the desserts were served, they gave me apple pie with two scoops of chocolate ice cream. One of my friends asked, "Did you ask for chocolate ice cream on apple pie?" "No," I replied truthfully. I tried to wave down the waiter, but he wasn't going near this and kept serving. One of the friends took the ice cream and I ate the pie. But who in a restaurant kitchen would do that?

You may recall a Zelda Rubinstein-esque cashier at Tiffany. She was colorful. She sat in the window with her cash register and her cigarettes. She had a lighter that was shaped like a Derringer pistol. Pull the trigger and the flame came out of the barrel of the 'gun.' As we were finishing our desserts, she screamed across the restaurant to the manager, "We just got hit. He had a gun. He cleaned out the cash drawer."

Try settling a bill and exiting a restaurant when everyone wants to leave AT ONCE.

It was a perfect ending to another perfect evening at the Tiffany Diner.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Wednesday at 4:27 AM

That is not the 1970s.

by Anonymousreply 7Last Wednesday at 4:39 AM

Loved Tiffany. Now THAT was the classic old NY diner. Sweetest waitress there knew my order and called everyone “honey”. It was my perfect Saturday morning. When it closed she moved to a diner on 23rd st. Now it’s a Bank of America. I loved the West Village back then. Things change. But I feel lucky to have lived there when it was still the creative, gay, middle income escape from capitalism.

by Anonymousreply 8Last Wednesday at 5:04 AM

Looks like mid 80s to me

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by Anonymousreply 9Last Wednesday at 5:14 AM

From the prior thread regarding a pic:

[quote] Looks like 2nd avenue and 60th Stret looking north.

I’m absolutely amazed by this. Someone was able to look at a picture that’s 30-40+ years old and know exactly where it was and what direction the photographer was facing.

Unbelievable.

I love shit like this.

by Anonymousreply 10Last Thursday at 5:12 AM

If you ever spent any time in Greenwich Village, you are certain to know this place. I wish I could find a better photo of it.

I got my left ear pierced there on Pride Day in 1984. I asked for the "without" but... that didn't really happen.

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by Anonymousreply 11Last Thursday at 5:21 AM

r9 pic looks like corner of 6th ave and Greenwich ave

by Anonymousreply 12Last Saturday at 4:27 AM

That's exactly were it is, R12.

by Anonymousreply 13Last Saturday at 4:32 AM

That's because it's where it is, R12

by Anonymousreply 14Last Saturday at 4:32 AM

Crossposts, R13

by Anonymousreply 15Last Saturday at 4:33 AM

1978

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by Anonymousreply 16Last Saturday at 4:37 AM

Great minds, etc., R14.

by Anonymousreply 17Last Saturday at 4:39 AM

R9 Definitely mid 80s. You can also tell by the car models. The Crazy Eddies chain was gone by the around 1990. I miss that newsstand with the green awning. That was a normal stop for me to pick up a magazine to read on my ride back home to Queens.

by Anonymousreply 18Last Saturday at 4:40 AM

Homosexuals For Peace - 1970

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by Anonymousreply 19Last Saturday at 4:43 AM

[quote] The Crazy Eddies chain was gone by the around 1990.

I generally went to Uncle Steve's on Canal for my electrics.

by Anonymousreply 20Last Saturday at 4:45 AM

1970

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by Anonymousreply 21Last Saturday at 4:46 AM
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by Anonymousreply 22Last Saturday at 4:50 AM

I think that GNC in r9’s photo is still there.

by Anonymousreply 23Last Saturday at 5:02 AM

GNCs are always the last ones standing.

by Anonymousreply 24Last Saturday at 7:03 AM

I recall being at the Canal Street General Store and the original location of Canal Jeans just a couple of buildings to the left of that. Canal Jeans moved to 504 Broadway and was a destination of many shoppers in the 1980s. It closed around 200.

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by Anonymousreply 25Last Saturday at 8:30 AM

R25 Correcting my type, it closed around 2002.

by Anonymousreply 26Last Saturday at 8:30 AM

[quote]R25 Canal Jeans moved to 504 Broadway and was a destination of many shoppers in the 1980s. It closed around 200.

That’s mostly where I shopped in the late 80s. Plus Alice Underground and Brooks Bros. for additional shirts.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Saturday at 4:24 PM

I remember in the mid 1980s there were a couple of guys on Christopher Street handing out pamphlets about a gay pedophile group. I threatened to punch his face in.

by Anonymousreply 28Last Saturday at 5:24 PM

The first few years of the Pride March we used to let LAMBDA march with us because we were all outlaws and got spit on together. I can't find which year they were finally disinvited. I guess people don't like to talk about the fact they were ever there.

by Anonymousreply 29Last Saturday at 5:32 PM

^ Oh, wow, I meant NAMBLA of course.

by Anonymousreply 30Last Saturday at 5:59 PM

I remember the Andrea Dworkin acolytes hanging out around there with their anti porn crusade posters of the Hustler cover image of a woman’s lower body entering a meat grinder.

by Anonymousreply 31Last Saturday at 6:06 PM

Are those the first A-Gays?

by Anonymousreply 32Last Saturday at 6:22 PM

I think the Crazy Eddie became a Coconuts record store for awhile

by Anonymousreply 33Last Sunday at 7:39 AM

I remember a fancy pizza restaurant along there.

by Anonymousreply 34Last Sunday at 7:44 AM

Pizzeria Uno. You can just see it in the left of the complete photo.

by Anonymousreply 35Last Sunday at 8:26 AM

AZUMA locations - 1977.

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by Anonymousreply 36Last Sunday at 8:42 AM
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by Anonymousreply 37Last Sunday at 8:44 AM

Thanks, R 35.

by Anonymousreply 38Last Sunday at 8:44 AM
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by Anonymousreply 39Last Sunday at 8:45 AM

UNO was further down in the middle of the block and was there until the 2010s

by Anonymousreply 40Last Sunday at 9:04 AM

[quote]Loved Tiffany. Now THAT was the classic old NY diner.

We called them coffee shops then, r8. They [italic]were[/italic] diners, really—the menus were pretty much the same as you'd find in NJ—but everyone I knew called them coffee shops.

[quote]Pizzeria Uno. You can just see it in the left of the complete photo.

Which photo, r35? And didn't r34 specify "a [italic]fancy[/italic] pizza restaurant"?

by Anonymousreply 41Last Sunday at 10:28 AM

By fancy, I meant more than a Ray's type place.

by Anonymousreply 42Last Sunday at 11:41 AM

Who is those gurls?

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by Anonymousreply 43Last Sunday at 11:44 AM
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by Anonymousreply 44Last Sunday at 11:47 AM

No one about - but not for long.

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by Anonymousreply 45Last Sunday at 11:48 AM
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by Anonymousreply 46Last Sunday at 11:49 AM

One of my favorite bookstores.

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by Anonymousreply 47Last Sunday at 11:51 AM

[quote]By fancy, I meant more than a Ray's type place.

Stop digging, r42. Ray's (the real one at 6th Ave and 11th St) made infinitely better pizza than the casserole they sling at Pizzeria Uno.

by Anonymousreply 48Last Sunday at 12:05 PM

Thanks for the Brentano's pic, r39. It will always stand out in my mind as one of the places in which my friend Dave, the Waiter Hater got into such a conflagration with the cashier that she called the police. This happened all the time, all over the Village (where we both lived). One time I got my head smashed into the ground at Crazy Eddie's because of something he said or did to a cashier. The entire male entourage of the store tried to beat the shit out of us, particularly out of him.

I learned not to go near him when he was paying for things, then not to go into stores or restaurants with him at all, and finally, not to see him anymore. Which was too bad, because he was a phenomenal fuck.

by Anonymousreply 49Last Sunday at 12:24 PM

There was a "Ray's Pizza" on every other block of Manhattan back then because somebody had screwed up a trademark registration and nobody knows which one was the original.

by Anonymousreply 50Last Sunday at 12:28 PM

Uptown? Yes...but pretty gay.

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by Anonymousreply 51Last Sunday at 12:52 PM

r50, in the '70s, the only Ray's that mattered was this one, located at the corner of 6th Avenue and 11th Street.

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by Anonymousreply 52Last Sunday at 12:52 PM

People tend to like retro pics of famous people, I've noticed.

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by Anonymousreply 53Last Sunday at 12:55 PM

A crime that Rays at 11th st closed. Very symbolic of the uselessness of the new Village when excellent corner pizza shops disappear. To be replaced by an endless cycle of restaurants opening then closing - all thinking THEY will be the ones who will make it a success and justify paying $50,000 month in rent. Stupid dreams die hard. And landlords make money.

by Anonymousreply 54Last Sunday at 1:08 PM

And then...

by Anonymousreply 55Last Sunday at 2:10 PM

I lived there late 80s to 2005. Haven’t been back since. Sorry to see Ray’s s at 11th and 6 is gone. Real New York pizza with the melting cheese. Mom and pop bagel stores. Independent bookstores. And the characters. Who remembers the man in the tight swim trunks walking 10 dogs on Washington Sq Park?

by Anonymousreply 56Last Sunday at 2:20 PM

[quote]R49 It will always stand out in my mind as one of the places in which my friend Dave, the Waiter Hater, got into such a conflagration with the cashier that she called the police.

My goodness - what is there to argue with a cashier about?

That their register tallied the sales tax wrong??

by Anonymousreply 57Last Sunday at 3:03 PM

R39 If that apartment building in the photo is the Stewart House (70 E 10th Steet) my grandparents lived in that building from when it was built in the very early 1960s until about 1970 when they moved to Florida. Of course.

by Anonymousreply 58Yesterday at 11:49 AM

I think that's E 8th or 9th, r58. I lived around the corner on E 10th, and Brentano's was a block or two down IIRC.

by Anonymousreply 59Yesterday at 11:54 AM

[quote]I thought Manatus was the old Claire. No? 19th @ 7th is Chelsea, not the Village.

Goddammit, you're right, I got confused. I KNOW I ate at whatever restaurant was in that Manatus space a hundred times in the early-mid 80s, but the name isn't coming to me! They served their burgers on English Muffins ONLY! Does that help anyone's memory?

by Anonymousreply 60Yesterday at 12:10 PM

[quote] My goodness - what is there to argue with a cashier about?

Oh you’d be surprised. Especially when they enter something as a sales item when it’s not on sale.

by Anonymousreply 6116 hours ago

R45, what is that pic?

by Anonymousreply 6216 hours ago

R62 It’s an image of the abandoned piers that were on the westside where lots of illicit gay sex and art making was had. There was a recent great thread about them:

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by Anonymousreply 6313 hours ago

r29 Hilariously today they have rebranded as MAPs. And yes they are trying to hitch an easy ride with TQ to establish anyone that disagrees with them as a bigot.

by Anonymousreply 6413 hours ago
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