The Emmy Awards are transphobic! Pose trans actors SNUBBED!

She was robbed and I think Sandra Bernhard should have been nominated too. Both dd great work this year.

I like the feeling of the show Season 1 but it was never a master class in acting. Then I stopped watching. Do these cunts really think they are grand thespians?

The show didn't deserve a single nomination for its dismal last season.

And Billy especially was undeserving.

If you thought she was insufferable before, just wait for what she'll be like now that she has a second nomination.

Thank God we're in COVID shutdown so she can't walk red carpets in her ridiculous getups.

I do think Angelica deserved a nomination but her crying and carrying on just looks petty and sore loser.

The show definitely did not deserve a nomination for Best Dramatic Series, although it certainly deserved it more than that violence porn fest The Handmaid's Tale.

The show is an unwatchable melodrama.

While the actors may have been snubbed, not getting a nomination is not transphobia. There are plenty of actors and shows that were "snubbed" because there are a finite number of nominations.

These people are just tiresome. When will people accept that being a T doesn't make you a good actor. It doesn't make you more interesting. And it definitely doesn't make you more deserving of, well...anything.

Damn Covid is really making a man out of Angie.

I agree. She was fine in a terrible season of Pose - the acting really isn’t great. Handmaid’s is running out of steam & mrs maisel was another show that was terrible this season. All I want to read about is Catherine O’Hara winning best comedy actress the day after the emmy awards - otherwise does anyone even watch? Does anyone even care? I miss the joan rivers show that reviewed the outfits the next day. That was my award show

R8 fashion police. Forgot the name

Oh, too bad Billy

I thought she was good in AHS 1984. I was actually really pleasantly surprised.

Haven't seen season 2 of Pose, and thought season 1 was okay, but as another poster said, didn't think any of the acting was all that spectacular. Some of the acting was really campy with melodramatic diologue.

This series is like Jenga, if you took the novelty of being trans aspect away the entire series would collapse under bad acting.

Bad, just bad! It’s seriously overlooked because it was “first” to have an entire trans cast but quickly tripped over itself like “Looking” did.

Forgot about looking. That did get old fast. It’s how i feel about mrs maisel It doesn’t need many more seasons. Or i won’t watch many more seasons. I think of pose the same way

Lucky them! Now they get to throw hissy fits and get condolences from everyone in the world who's trying to prove they're an ally to the poor oppressed transwomen of color, even the rich and famous ones!

And if they'd got noms they'd also be at the center of attention. I wish I could get that kind of win-win.

Who watches this trainwreck, trans or not? Ryan is TV poison.

[quote]For Ross, the issue is much bigger than a nom: “Ultimately, I need y’all to understand that I’m so tired – those of you who know me know I’m not just working on screen or behind screen but I’m working around the clock to get our society to value trans lives and Black trans lives. ”

She's EXHAUSTED!

Agreed, R14. I would rather watch the ancient reruns on the mesothelioma channel than anything he had anything to do with.

I got hooked on this show and watched the 1st and 2nd seasons this past weekend. I cried at Candy's funeral scene. I enjoyed the music!

Dear, the acting on "Pose" is BRUTALLY AWFUL, and Billy Porter is really terrible too.

The show is such a legend in its own mind!

Bunch of narcissistic men whining over gold plated trophies.

Well, pop my tuck.

Do they really think they're in the same league as Viola Davis or Meryl Streep or Laura Dern or Catherine O'Hara? Laughable.

Indya Moore was good the first season but when I watch that first season again I realize how much of her performance was bolstered and carried by Evan Peters. They had great chemistry with him and he really helped their performance. Their best scenes were with him. I know the wrath I am incurring by saying that a white actor made them better but, sorry, that's my opinion.

This past season, Indya STUNK. Nasal whining, overacting. The writing was terrible for Angel but Moore isn't strong enough to make it work.

The other thing is when the show first started, the cast were pretty likable on social media. But once the show became a hit, they all become insufferable, save for MJ and maybe Dominique. Ryan Jamaal Swain, the most untalented and charisma-free of the cast is just completely obnoxious. We already know how insufferable Billy is. Indya and Angelica have become the worst and, now with the Emmy "snub", they are going to become even more insufferable. You know these two are not going to let it go and will either protest the Emmys or or pressure the committee so much that they will get a special moment on the awards show to highlight the struggles of black trans lives and explain why the "snub" was so hurtful. And, of course, it will have NOTHING to do with the fact that this is about acting. The Emmys don't give out awards just because you're black and trans. But you know they will not let this go.

I've seen better acting in John Waters movies.

[quote] The Emmys don't give out awards just because you're black and trans.

Why not? Everyone else does!

Laverne Cox was nominated for Guest Actress, so the transphobic excuse doesn’t really fly.

R21 why wouldn’t they be in the league as those you mentioned? It’s only acting it’s not that hard. All you have to do is be generally attractive and memorize some lines. Not much else to it.

And for that matter what sort of league is it that these women are supposedly in? I can’t think of another industry that is as indulged so much in how seriously it’s taken. “Insufferable” as you would say haha.

Are we really stuck with Laverne Cox forever?

Yes, you are.

And sorry, Angie, MJ and Indya.

I'll be the trans star of this year's Emmy Awards.

I'll be sure to say "Black trans lives matter" on your behalf. Strike a pose!

You know nominating these talentless men would never have stopped them from being insufferable. They'd be all over the place campaigning, threatening voters that if they don't vote for them that they don't care about

BLACK TRANS LIVES MATTER

Because it's not about the work as Angie says. It's about BLACK TRANS LIVES.

The violence. The literal violence.

The fact that Angelica wasn't nominated is LITERAL VIOLENCE!!!

[QUOTE] She's EXHAUSTED!

R15 I know the feeling!

That show is awful. And, those "snubbed" performances were dreadful.

You gonna tell me that Zendaya is a better actress than the Pose gals?

If they weren’t so obnoxious, I’d feel sorry for them. Angela, Indya, and their ilk have had the media blowing smoke up their asses 24-7 for the last five years. Instead of understanding that they’re just novelty acts, Angela & Co bought into the idea that they really are that talented and brilliant.

They’re not. I doubt anyone of these “ladies” will be working actors in ten years.

Indya Moore had a shitty upbringing. His parents are Jehovah’s Witness and didn’t accept Indya when he came out to them. They even sent him to conversion therapy. He ultimately decided being a tranny daughter was better than being a gay son. Still doesn’t mean he deserves an Emmy nom.

So now he’s due an award no one cares about because he had a rough life? R32

R32 sorry didn’t register the last bit

[quote]His parents are Jehovah’s Witness and didn’t accept Indya when he came out to them. They even sent him to conversion therapy. He ultimately decided being a tranny daughter was better than being a gay son.

That NEVER HAPPENS! You're LYING! AAAAAHHHHH!

I was really hoping Mj Rodriguez would be nominated. I love the show, but I'm over Porter in general.

Wonder if Porter's reel included the porno sex.

These people are all just being used as tokens, WOKE TOKENS by all the nice Millennial (mainly) white women in tv casting who desperately want to reflect their ultimate wokeness in a very public way.

What happens to them when the parade moves on?

I’m pretty sure we’ve seen all Billy Porter has to offer. But he’s become the de facto leader of that show, so honoring him lets voters feel good for being trans/blm friendly. Meanwhile, he’s married to a white dude.

The acting on Pose is a mixed bag. If anyone should be nominated it's MJ Rodriguez, I'm surprised her performance hasn't received more accolades.

I wonder if they will ever bring Evan Peters yuppie character back.

[quote]I’m pretty sure we’ve seen all Billy Porter has to offer. But he’s become the de facto leader of that show...

And they and "the movement" will turn on him, starting about now.

He's a CIS MALE!!!!!!!

MJ? Seriously?

"Muh kids, muh kids..."

[quote]I’m pretty sure we’ve seen all Billy Porter has to offer. But he’s become the de facto leader of that show

"The only hit that comes out of a Billy Porter show is Billy Porter, and that's ME, baby, remembuh?"

The show’s existence is the prize. You’re just not gonna get people to care about a show about .001 of the population.

[quote] The show’s existence is the prize.

Yeah, the booby prize.

Not nominating black trans actors for an Emmy is LITERAL VIOLENCE! It's TRANSPHOBIA!!!!!

Who cares how good their acting is?? This is more than just about acting. It's about acknowledging BLACK TRANS ACTORS!!

#blacktranslivesmatters #blacktransactorsmatter

Fucking nutjob ^^

You mean to tell me there's no category for Best Snipped?

And the award for Best Residual Genital Scarring goes to....

I believe the castmates were competing for Most Delusional.

So I don't get to walk the Red Carpet in a chandelier wrapped in a car cover?

Fine, revoke Jennifer homewrecker Aniston’s nomination and give it to one of then if that will shut them up.

Them

Agree with r21 pretty much on everything, especially how talent-free Ryan Jamaal is. He benefitted from the use of a double on the more technical dance moves and his concept of showing angst or concern is twitching his lip to the right, like Samantha when about to start wiggling her nose for a witch spell.

MJ and Dominique, conversely are the best actresses there. Sandra Bernhardt surprisingly turns in a good performance and Miss Lupone’s arc, save for the bit where she had to show off her voice (looking at you too, Billy Porter), was worth of notice. Ironically, the best singing voice there belonged to someone who was relegated to harmony parts - MJ Rodriguez (unless of course she was dubbed, then why would they bother, with all the people on the show who could have stepped in?) Porter plays the balcony too much. THEATAH. His style reminds me of this SNL skit in which Chris Rock, Ellen Cleghorne, Tim Meadows and others overplayed the African American Angst as part of some Local Negro Theater Ensemble, where they’d end up screaming every line.

More on Ryan J and Indya being insufferable, please.

they had like 10 nominees for each category and they STILL didn't make room for the trans performers! smh

Pose season 2 was a dud. It had none of the magic or charm of the first season, weaker storylines, and even the music selections weren't that good. It was a textbook example of a second season curse. If it deserved any awards recognition for the past season (debatable), it should be for MJ for keeping it all afloat as the heart of the show.

ERASURE OF BLACK TRANS BODIES!

LITERAL VIOLENCE!

MJ is earnest and appealing, and she is absolutely essential to grounding the show as it got increasingly outlandish in season 2. But a great actress she is not.

If these actors should be angry at anyone, it's the writers. I've lost track of how many horribly written scenes there were in season 2. One that stands out in particular is the Patti LuPone and MJ encounter in which Patti takes about 10 minutes to expound on the meaning on "gentrification" while we're actually witnessing gentrification take place.

Black trans lives are the antimatter.

There should be outrage over Laverne Cox getting a nomination. You mean to tell me that out of all those talented actresses on that show, the single nomination in the Show’s final season went to Laverne Cox? Give me a break.

Is there a category for Best Pickled Dick in a Jar?

Boo fucking hoo. She didn't get nominated for an award for her crappy performances in a crappy show, so now its all about racism and transphobia. She's such a martyr.

I genuinely enjoy Pose regardless of its flaws. I like the music, the material, the scenery, the characters. And I loved Candy. But, acting nominations for Pose? No one should feel snubbed.

During the primary, Angelica Ross made some of the most offensive comments imaginable about Pete Buttigieg. Like really disgusting stuff. But of course that’s okay because he’s a white, gay, “cis” person.

MJ Rodriguez who plays Blanca definitely should have got a nom, I find her performance absolutely amazing.

Caitlyn Jenner for Most Ironic Trump Supporter.

r55 Indya is fucking insane. Just read her Twitter account. She never stops tweeting and her posts are unhinged and repetitive. She/they tweeted that Trans women are biological women. She's fucking nuts and exhausting. Always complaining.

I dislike Ryan because he is talentless and has no charisma. The writing of his character is very Mary Sue. Ryan comes off very condescending on social media. His co-star Dyllon Burnside is far more likable and talented. Apparently they hate each other.

I love threads like this - lets me identify and block all the transphobic trash that is stinking this place up (I don't want to see anything else about what you have to say about any other topic if you're unevolved pond scum).

So did Pose’s transactresses not getting nominated cancel out Hunter Schafer getting nominated from Euphoria because they didn’t want to be seen giving it to a white sister when they didn’t give it to a black one? Hunter gave an amazing performer that to me surpassed Zendaya’s.

Angelica Ross is a second banana. I'll give you that, but no more.

I give Indya's acting a 7 out of 10. Angelica's acting a 9 out of 10 and if she didn't get one this year, there will always be next year for her. Her talent is evident and she will have her time, just like Ms. Porter.

R70 shut your misogynistic homophobic ass the hell up. This is a gay board, not a halfway house for genital mutilators.

Anjelica Ross's character died. She won't have an opportunity next year - at least not via Pose.

I want to see the contenders for Best Angry Inch.

Only women-born women who are lesbians should be eligible for female acting awards.

Agreed! But also for Best Male Acting Awards

Nice try, ChasTITTY!

I cut those things off. They were getting in the way of my career.

Thankfully the UK is starting to wake up to the pernicious effect of the trans cult and us gay people in the UK no longer have to live in the climate of fear created by homophobic misogynist creeps like r70 (although there is still a lot of work to do to eradicate their reign of terror completely).

[quote] During the primary, Angelica Ross made some of the most offensive comments imaginable about Pete Buttigieg.

Link, please. I need to see this. TIA!

[quote] Indya is fucking insane. Just read her Twitter account. She never stops tweeting and her posts are unhinged and repetitive.

That makes sense. In talk shows featuring some of the cast, she makes a big deal about having a say and wanting to talk. Then she proceeds to hem, haw, and ramble aimlessly for five minutes to spit maybe half an idea out of her evidently high-as-a-kite mouth.

R70 Did the unevolved pond scum not evolve because they cut off their reproductive systems?

I want to know more about the Ryan/Dillon beef.

Maybe as a penance for Jeffery Tabor winning for Transparent they just have a Best Transactresses in Any Situation Award that they can all go up against each other for? Maybe it’s a competition and they have to do certain obstacles like putting makeup on in the dark, running a mile in heels and best tucking without Duct tape?

The whole funeral episode including the parents was great TV and she was Emmy worthy. Yet they will give someone like Julia Louise Dreyfus six emmys for doing the same thing season after season.

[quote]There should be outrage over Laverne Cox getting a nomination. You mean to tell me that out of all those talented actresses on that show, the single nomination in the Show’s final season went to Laverne Cox? Give me a break.

Of all the performances in the final series of OITNB, I can literally think of 100 actresses who deserve a nomination more than Laverne Cox.

I think Laverne had maybe 2 scenes, one where she's washing someone's hair and says something sassy as she raises an eyebrow, and then I think when someone (Piper?) gets released and sees Laverne in the release queue and Sophia says something sassy ass raises an eyebrow.

Why hairdresser girls always need to be saying something sassy?

Nominating Laverne Cox in an "actress" category (which someonehow the ladies demand to be called the "female actor" category, because they're too stupid to see the inherent misogyny in that dopey definition!) is pure misogyny! If you want to create a "female actor with a penis" category, then do it, but erasing a real woman to make room for ONE MORE GUY to infiltrate their nominees is bullshit!

Supposedly r85 they either fucked or dated or both but there was a falling out.

Personally I think Ryan is jealous of Dyllon because he is hotter and a better actor.

Time will not be at all kind to this show. In a few years, the show will become a painfully dated, cringe-inducing, afternoon rerun on TV. All of these actors will be forgotten as quick as this trans fad fades away.

That's 90% of TV shows. I see no problem with being of the moment and being forgotten.

POSE Season 2 was only half as good as Season 1. Season 3 will not produce many Emmy nods. Angelica Ross will have a better chance on American Horror Story to get that Emmy gold.

R94 There’s bound to be lots of deaths in season three of Pose though, that might stack nominations?

So, they were expecting to be nominated in the best actress or best supporting actress actress categories?

Yes r96. They were all entered in the female acting categories.

[quote]Thankfully the UK is starting to wake up to the pernicious effect of the trans cult and us gay people in the UK no longer have to live in the climate of fear created by homophobic misogynist creeps like [R70] (although there is still a lot of work to do to eradicate their reign of terror completely).

r81, really hope you're right, can't happen soon enough.

Indya is very entitled and will be very disappointed in life if she thinks she is Emmy deserving at this point of her career. She is NOT there yet, and may never get there.

Did Indya even submit? Apparently she's non-binary but also claims to be a trans woman (as she says trans women are biological women). I can't keep up.

She's fucking insane, makes no sense, and changes her outrage by the hour.

She was horrible this past season. The model storyline was laughable.

I love it - able to block a few more absolute cretins this morning, feels good to clear out the filth! Keep calling me a misogynist and a homophobe all you want to you ridiculous scumbags, you're blocked and I won't see your nonsense anymore anyway :-)

Feel sad for you - hopefully one day you'll evolve, but for now continue to stay pond scum and stay enraged, pathetic little boys.

At least I still have my original junk.

R81 is itching to have another bunch of loony hate-filled threads deleted.

R103, why would facts lead to thread deletion? Even Muriel has moved on from the days when any questioning of the trans mantras was immediately shut down.

Shut the fuck up R103. You’re the one spreading hatred of women and gay men, not to mention the differently abled.

modern day plastic surgery is making it too easy for people to get away with murder -- the murder of truth.

As a biological black woman those shemales are not real women. They are mentally ill men. Yes I said it.

[quote]So did Pose’s transactresses not getting nominated cancel out Hunter Schafer getting nominated from Euphoria because they didn’t want to be seen giving it to a white sister when they didn’t give it to a black one? Hunter gave an amazing performer that to me surpassed Zendaya’s.

Daniela Vega and Jen Richards had small roles in Tales Of The City and were worthy of nominations.

These deluded people can't even convince anyone that they're actually the opposite sex. Doesn't say much for their acting skills.

R105, no, fuck you you hate-filled bigot.

The hate-filled bigot is the one who supports the homophobic misogynists and can't even see that's what they're doing, r10.

^ R10 = R110

R110, I dare your racist misogynistic homophobic ass to repeat that to R107.

Aren’t most institutions transphobic? Why should one expect the Emmys to be any different?

A bigot is a bigot based on what they do not who they are. Besides I'm not talking to 107, I'm talking to you you hateful bigot.

Someone above asked about Angelica Ross attacking Pete. There are worse ones if you want to dig, but here’s one where Ross insists Pete isn’t gay enough because he’s too respectable and not a black trans sex worker.

R110. Bitch like I care what your ma'am ass has to say. Shouldn't you be yelling at people to use proper pronoun "it is ma'am".

Angelica can act but she’s nuts

Season 2 of "Pose" was poorly written and horribly acted. Angelica was the best thing about an otherwise dismal season. Her storyline was the emotional center and I think of everyone in the cast her performance was the most raw and authentic. Still, you cannot expect to be nominated for being the best of the worst.

Did Janet get a nomination?

Thanks for that post r116

R116 Shows the clear divide between gay people and the rest of the alphabet soup. Absolutely every fucking letter (along with self-hating gay bootlickers) just taking the opportunity to drag down an openly gay man for not being the "right" kind of "q*eer". There's a freaking bisexual man married to a woman in the comments bragging about how he is "more q*eer" than Buttigieg. I guess pegging and light BDSM makes you more "revolutionary" than a man literally married to another man.

R99 yes how very dare she consider herself on the same level of professional performance as for instance, the esteemed Jon Cryer in Two and a Half Men. Or Ray Romano for Everybody Loved Raymond. How could she even think of opening the door to those hallowed halls. I hope someday you will look back and cringe at how much respect you gave to an industry awards show for an industry you most likely don’t belong to. Until that day I’ll do the cringing on your behalf.

R102 and you’re acting superior after composing that sentence? ‘Original junk’???

Indya is now calling out Billy. Does this bitch do anything else other than complain?

She must be insufferable to work with.

[quote]Indya is now calling out Billy. Does this bitch do anything else other than complain?

My post from last week:

[quote]I’m pretty sure we’ve seen all Billy Porter has to offer...And they and "the movement" will turn on him, starting about now. He's a CIS MALE!!!!!!!

Interesting that not ONE co-star or Janet Mock, Steven Canals or Ryan himself wished Billy good luck on social media. Not one.

They must really hate him.

How hilarious is it that two of the highest profile people working on the transified Pose are named Laverne Cox and Janet Mock!?

Honey, y'all are just like that kooky Mock Apple Pie made from fucking Ritz crackers to me! Yuck.