Why did Kevin Spacey stay closeted for so many years?

the real question is why did he come out and that was to deflect from the charges made by that kid (or that kids' parents)

it was to deflect and to change the focus

making a pass at that kid may have been icky, but I don't think it was technically illegal especially if the kid started live streaming it or live texting it (or whatever he did)

He was very much trying to be the next Pacino, tom hanks, Russell crowe. He would not have been cast in American Beauty had he been out. So much progress has been made we are forgetting just how homophobia the late 90s were.

After broadwY, He started on tv in the 80’s - not gay friendly. He wanted to be a leading man in the movies. His success was early 90’s - who was out & a leading man?

Kevin Spacey 60 Minutes interview where he denies he is gay and introducing the audience to his hot and heavy romance with a woman

"LA Confidential" came out in 1997. My gaydar pinged on Spacey in that movie.

Why does anyone stay closeted? Because they are afraid of being judged, and how it may influence the opinions of and treatment they will receive from others.

so WEHT Dianne Dreyer - Kevin Spacey fiancee ?

R1- he came out after the statement by grown man Anthony Rapp that Spacey laid him down in a bed when he was like 12 and Spacey was 27. Rapp got loose and left. Spacey said he was drunk and is now an out gay man.

[quote] is now an out gay man.

Any news how Spacey former fiancee Dianne Dreyer reacted to the news?

He’s a self-loathing homophobe ashamed of being gay.

He’s also enough of a raging narcissist to convince himself he could play the straight, romantic lead, when he was actually only ever cast as a creep.

He's like most actors in Hollywood. They'll do anything to have a career. Lie, cheat, steal. It doesn't matter. He also became an arrogant prick. Especially after he won that second Oscar. I really think he felt he was untouchable. And had plenty of paid people protecting him. I think felt if he came out. I wouldn't get those A+ roles he was accustomed too.

He. Lol.

It's that age group, born in the 1950s. You carry the stigma to some degree the rest of your life.

Remember when Rapp complained about Spacey being in the closet after he lodged the assualt claim? So after Spacey apologized for sexually wrestling with him in (a black out) he also opened up about being gay. Immediately after the revelation one million people simultaneously attacked Spacey for coming out as a distraction

It’s a moral character thing. Anyone who puts career ahead of truth is probably a bit of a sociopath.

R1, wouldn't coming out put more spotlight on the allegations? It also makes people more likely to believe that he assults men or in this case a 14 year old boy.

He should have denied, denied, and denied. But he did not come out as a distraction.

Its weird how a straight actor can rape a 14 year old and the world pedophile never even comes up.

He wasn’t gay when he was with ME!

I mean everyone knew he was gay and it wasn't like he was ever considered romantic leading man material. He was a character actor who became a star.

He came out when he got busted re: the 14-year-old because he wanted the support of the gay community at that time. It ended up being a really weak move due to his age (50s, so old, why now) and the fact that *now* he's coming out, when he's done something reprehensible and needs support. Nobody wanted to welcome him with open arms into the gay men's community.

R8, that's right.

what was a teenager doing in his apartment; what did Spacey think he was doing?

Weren't he and his brother both physically abused as kids?

I think that in and of itself can create a block for lots of things, including sexuality.

He wouldn't have gotten hired to play the husband like in The Ref and American Beauty

[quote]Its weird how a straight actor can rape a 14 year old and the world pedophile never even comes up.

Do directors count? Because Polanski and Woody Allen (and, in France, Christophe Ruggia, who was accused by actor Adèle Haenel) are called pedophiles and child rapists all the time.

[quote] [R8], what was a teenager doing in his apartment; what did Spacey think he was doing?

It was a casting party of a play he was doing, many people were there too. Even if he were alone with the kid its still a 27 year old with a 14 year old. Did you ever watch Adventures in Babysitting? That's how Rapp looked like when Kevin tried to fuck him, he looked even younger than 14.

Still find it odd how Rapp was laying on his bed, he couldn't have been that naive

Yep

14 year olds can be wistful, innocent, and naive.

“Something sweet and magical is going to happen”

Which means Rapp was hoping something would happen

I think Rapp dreamed of romance and Spacey didn't act the way he thought he would

Always so tiring that dl pretends that TPTB can just let celebs come out left and right; and everybody wants to be straight, and have a family, and be perceived as normal; the modern West et al are also about gay sterilization, besides other sterilizations.

[quote]Its weird how a straight actor can rape a 14 year old and the world pedophile never even comes up.

Jeffrey Epstein (not an actor, but straight) is constantly referred to as a "pedophile." And Prince Andrew too.

R11 is KS. I think he slippt up there.

Naked ambition, venery, greed, etc. , as in Under the Silver Lake or Maps of the Stars.

Also, yknow girls don’t tell...

Sorry, r11, no drama. I misread the part at the end where you slippt into first person from third. Forgive me.

Dianne Dreyer pings to high heaven.

R24 , I never remember Polanski and Allen being called peodphiles in the press.

I am talking about actors that enageged in assult of minors. Nobody called Timothy Hutton, Sy or vester Stallone, or James Franco out as pedophiles.

(R36) Or Jared Leto.

"So after Spacey apologized for sexually wrestling with him in (a black out) he also opened up about being gay"

So an assault is "wrestling" now?

"I am talking about actors that enageged in assult of minors. Nobody called Timothy Hutton, Sy or vester Stallone, or James Franco out as pedophiles."

Hutton and Stallone denied the accusations against them, Spacey didn't even bother to deny Rapp's accusations. Also Spacey has multiple accusers and Hutton and Stallone only have one accuser each.

Because being closeted made it easier to get away with creepy behavior towards men and boys - people didn't spill the beans because they didn't want to out him

R40, Interesting perspective. You are probably right.

Spacey was sort of out though in his early days. I waited on him in a store I worked in when he was on Wiseguy and getting known. He was with a younger obviously gay guy and they seemed to be on a date.

I also saw him walking his dog outside of Lost in Yonkers on Broadway with another young gay looking young guy.

He wasn't that hidden if you were looking. Just in the press I guess. (and I guess you could do that back then since there was no internet to rat people out.)

r15- Maybe now. But 40 years ago, you had to put career ahead of truth or you couldn't have a career. It's hard to fault someone like that. If they want to act, you do what you gotta do. That said, there is no excuse now. None.

But r20 he didn't do the reprehensible thing NOW (2017). It was in his late 20s. It was only being REVEALED now.

Kevin Spacey was a handsome guy until about the turn of the millennium. But by then he had aged and it was clear he was never going to be a leading man, just a talented character actor who sometimes got leading parts. But he went another full 17 years before he came out, and that was only when he was forced to do so. I think the reasons were because he had attacked that GQ writer for coyly outing him, insisting he was straight (which was a complete lie), and he feared looking like a fool if he came out after that--also, he was in denial about his looks and his youth (and so we all had to endure the embarrassment of "Beyond the Sea").

Whether he is the Chester the Molestor he has been portrayed as being seems uncertain; but he is clearly an extremely vain and deluded man who was nasty to other people. I have zero sympathy for him.

r38- it wasn't even described as wrestling. He just laid him down in the bed. Inappropriate behavior with a child and if it had been investigated then, Spacey could've done some time.

"He just laid him down in the bed."

While he was on top of him

“He’s not gay, he just hasn’t found the right girl yet” Did I say that the right way, Kevin? I’m not a Oscar-winning actor like you are, son!!!!!

He played a closet case in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. That was before American Beauty and L.A. Confidential.

Mentors and agents can have a lot of power over impressionable young actors. My agent told me "You can come out. It's not going to stop YOU from getting roles" so I did. I think if he said not to, it might've gradually moved me towards getting a new agent but his permission meant something. If another actor was told by their agent, you MUST stay in the closet, I can see how they'd think they had to. Before my agent gave me the good advice, my plan was to use the Ricky Martin answer: "you can fantasize about me however you'd like."

I wish he could have done the final season of House of Cards, he was great in that role.

I just rewatched Superman Returns on HBO Max. Kevin is so handsome bald. I don’t get why he wears that stupid toupee.

I really enjoyed him on House of Cards too. It was such a good show. But I was so pissed off and disgusted with him I didn't mind. I thought Robin did a really good job. Was a good final season.

The internet is idiotic. Rapp himself said Spacey was drunk the night this happened. Spacey doesn’t even remember the night in question, it was 36 years ago. That’s not an admission of guiltZ

R46, Rapp went to the police at the time and consulted with a lawyer. They couldn’t do anything because a crime did not occour. There was no kissing, no groping of genitals, and no sex whatsoever.

I never thought he was a good actor. American Beauty is straight up moose caca.

R31, Epstein has a serial pattern of going after hundreds of minors. Kevin Spacey doesn’t.

I’ve seen the prince Andrew story covered in the press and I’ve never once seen the word peodphile used in relation to him in the press.

R5 "See No Evil, Hear No Evil" was released in 1989, and even at age nine, I clocked him.

"They couldn’t do anything because a crime did not occour."

Wrong. They couldn't do anything because the statute of limitations had passed.

"Epstein has a serial pattern of going after hundreds of minors. Kevin Spacey doesn’t."

Nope

I don't even want to imagine the kind of parties that him and Bryan Singer had.

So it sounds like that 14 year old is famous now. I wonder who it is.

He’s good but not great. Overactor.

Either way, he’s a pig. Oink.

Why does anyone OP?

FWIW I think Spacey is an opportunistic sociopath who will fuck anyone of any gender if he feels it is beneficial to him. Definitely has a creepy sexual energy around him.

R64, um, no. If he was capable of that he would have married a beard for career purposes. He wanted to fuck chickens