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Ode to Billy Joe

Billy Joe enjoyed being raped by an older man. So he kills himself because of the guilt?

This bullshit is absurd.

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by Anonymousreply 26911 hours ago

Well, Billy Joe never had a lick o' sense.

by Anonymousreply 107/25/2020

Why is it so absurd? Small rural town, small mindset, easy to believe a young man who finds he likes gay sex cannot reconcile it in his mind so ends his life. He wouldn't be the only one, still happening today.

by Anonymousreply 207/25/2020

Uh, fucktard, he wasn't raped.

He was drunk and he let the older man suck his cock.

Pay attention dilbert.

by Anonymousreply 307/25/2020

What’s your definition of rape, Dogbert?

by Anonymousreply 407/25/2020

This was a good movie. But I did walk away confused about the plot my first time watching it. What exactly happened that night? I thought it was a stable of female prostitutes taking BJs virginity. He was also very drunk. How was this anything but rape?

by Anonymousreply 507/25/2020

There is no mention of cocksucking, pendejo.

by Anonymousreply 607/25/2020

Didn't Rosco P. Coltrane rape Billy Joe? Or am I conflating?

by Anonymousreply 707/25/2020

So was a blind girl skating around the rink after winning the competition, but done in because of the flowers they threw on the ice, but we don’t hold that against Robbie Benson either.

by Anonymousreply 807/25/2020

But what about the doll!

by Anonymousreply 907/25/2020

You are correct, r7

by Anonymousreply 1007/25/2020

We were forced to watch a movie in high school in which Robbie played a drug addict.

by Anonymousreply 1107/25/2020

I was molested, I didn't jump off a bridge FFS!

by Anonymousreply 1207/25/2020

He wasn't raped. He was just drunk.

by Anonymousreply 1307/25/2020

I can't tell you how many times I've been in Billy Joe's situation - get drunk, sleep with a gross person, regret it the next day. I just did that last weekend, but hopefully won't do it again until... next weekend.

by Anonymousreply 1407/25/2020

Robby Benson is still an amazing looking guy.

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by Anonymousreply 1507/25/2020

Sex when you are falling down drunk is never a good idea. I doubt Billie Joe was sober enough to give consent, woman or man. Roscoe P. Coltrane took advantage of the situation.

by Anonymousreply 1607/25/2020

The other guy was drunk, too, so neither of them was sober enough to give consent.

by Anonymousreply 1707/25/2020

Robby Benson was such a dreamboat to young me. Just dreamy.

by Anonymousreply 1807/25/2020

He was so freaking sexy, you're right R18

by Anonymousreply 1907/25/2020

I know, R18.

He was so fucking cute back then.

by Anonymousreply 2007/25/2020

So that’s why Billy Joe MacAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge!

by Anonymousreply 2107/25/2020

I have never understood, and I know this isn’t the right thread, why having sex with a really drunk person can be rape (if the drunk person decides so later) but being drunk is not a defense for having raped someone.

Sort of on topic: does anyone remember the 5th Dimension’s “dramatization” of the song on their live album? Gay little me loved it.

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by Anonymousreply 2207/25/2020

R8, I laughed so hard I almost choked on my bagel. I love you

by Anonymousreply 2307/25/2020

What Bronze Age bullshit are you queens talking about?

by Anonymousreply 2407/25/2020

There was a virus goin’ round,

Papa caught it, and he died last spring.

And now my momma doesn’t seem to wanna do much of anything.

by Anonymousreply 2507/25/2020

From the song many people surmised that perhaps Billy Joe got Bobby Lee pregnant.

In the movie the story goes that Bobby Lee likes Billy Joe, but Billy Joe likes dick.

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by Anonymousreply 2607/25/2020

Dick? I don’t recall a character named Dick in the movie?

by Anonymousreply 2707/25/2020

I watched this as a kid and i do not remember the rape subtext. Was Robby Benson kind of dim in real life or was he just acting?

by Anonymousreply 2807/25/2020

Robbie Benson was the poster boy for wide eyed innocence when he was young. He out ingenued the ingenues.

by Anonymousreply 2907/25/2020

Look at him here all dewey eyed next to Glynnis O’Connor another ultimate ingenue, he is literally the person who the phrase “protect at all cost” was invented for.

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by Anonymousreply 3007/25/2020

Why does he talk so breathy? Travolta did that, too when he was young. Robby could sing in a couple different styles. None of them really interesting to me, but with some real skill.

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by Anonymousreply 3107/25/2020

Robby was so dreamy. I wish he could have deflowered me.

by Anonymousreply 3207/25/2020

Being man-raped in a movie does wonders for an actor's career.

by Anonymousreply 3307/25/2020

Wow, movie was made for $1 million but grossed $27 million- even with negative reviews. That should have launched Baer as a major director, but he backed away from directing.

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by Anonymousreply 3407/25/2020

You're forgetting Baer's other masterpiece Macon County Line. (He didn't direct, but wrote and produced it.)

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by Anonymousreply 3507/25/2020

What I always found hilarious is that Bobbie Gentry doesn't care what the reason is for the suicide and says the song focuses on the family:

[quote] Those questions are of secondary importance in my mind. The story of Billie Joe has two more interesting underlying themes. First, the illustration of a group of people's reactions to the life and death of Billie Joe, and its subsequent effect on their lives, is made. Second, the obvious gap between the girl and her mother is shown when both women experience a common loss (first Billie Joe, and later, Papa), and yet Mama and the girl are unable to recognize their mutual loss or share their grief.

The movie is completely the creation of screenwriters divorced from the actual creator's vision.

by Anonymousreply 3607/25/2020

Was this the same Max Baer who played Jethro and Jethrine, or was it his father?

by Anonymousreply 3707/25/2020

[quote]You're forgetting Baer's other masterpiece Macon County Line.

Which was a huge hit that earned a sequel featuring Nick Nolte & Don Johnson.

by Anonymousreply 3807/25/2020

[quote]Why does he talk so breathy?

Hey it got him a great gig....

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by Anonymousreply 3907/25/2020

Wait... there was a movie?

The things I learn on Datalounge.

And Robbie Benson, who has that killer combo of dark hair and blue eyes, is the answer to the Jews Age Terribly troll. (Benson and Paul Rudd and Paul Newman)

by Anonymousreply 4007/25/2020

r37 Max Baer Jr. played Jethro/Jethrene on the Beverly Hillbillies and was the auteur director of Billy Joe.

Max Baer Sr. was a prizefighter and sometime movie star of the 40s and 50s. He was much hotter than his son.

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by Anonymousreply 4107/25/2020

Max Baer, Jr. attended the wedding of my friend at Lake Tahoe about 10 years ago. I guess he lives or lived in that area, but I don't know how they knew him. They said he was a nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 4207/25/2020

How did Brother Taylor happen to see Billy Joe and some girl who looks a lot like you on the Tallahatchie Bridge?

And then, how did someone happen to see Billy Joe jump off the bridge later?

Do people stand and look at the bridge all day long?

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by Anonymousreply 4307/25/2020

Max Baer Jr. was a hot slab of beef as the sheriff/police in Macon County Line.

by Anonymousreply 4407/25/2020

r43 The bridge is high up on Choctaw Ridge in view of many down below.

by Anonymousreply 4507/25/2020

This is my favorite cover of the song.

Gives it a whole new layer of meaning.

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by Anonymousreply 4607/25/2020

R41, I had such a major crush on him when I was a gayling watching Beverly Hillbillies.

by Anonymousreply 4707/25/2020

Never a fan of Robbie,but I adored Glynnis . Even as a young gayling I figured out that Roscoe had banged Robbie ,even if I didnt quite understand what that meant . I was mad for her brother ,much more than I cared about Robbie.

by Anonymousreply 4807/25/2020

Did they make love or was it rape rape?

by Anonymousreply 4907/25/2020

If I’d jumped off a bridge each time I got drunk and let someone blow me I would’ve run out of bridges.

by Anonymousreply 5007/25/2020

Billy Joe had dreamy eyes

by Anonymousreply 5107/25/2020

R51 Not to mention that lovely, smooth pink hole.

by Anonymousreply 5207/25/2020

Dewey Barksdale was played by James Best who was a cousin of the Everly Brothers.

I bet Billy Joe thought he was pregnant and that's why he jumped off the bridge.

by Anonymousreply 5307/25/2020

That wasn't his cherry they threw off the Tallahatchie Bridge.

by Anonymousreply 5407/25/2020

[quote]Billy Joe enjoyed having sex with another man.

▲ Fixed, OP.

So he killed himself because of the guilt.

Typical 1970s narrative for gay characters; they always tended to die one way or another. There's an informative segment of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐥𝐨𝐢𝐝 𝐂𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐞𝐭 (1995) which deals with it.

by Anonymousreply 5507/25/2020

I just read that Robby graduated from high school at 14 as valedictorian.

Hot guys who are also smart are my weakness.

by Anonymousreply 5607/25/2020

Why would a 1-time experience convince Billy Joe that he was gay? Couldn't he have gone to church, ask for forgiveness for his supposed "sin," and then marry his friend/girl friend? That's what church going girls in Conservative small towns, who had illegal abortions, did at the time.

Yes that was the norm for centuries. Normally married gay/bi men would go on a "business trip" and have a fling in a big anonymous city. Same with a man who wanted a wilder woman (usually not White.)

by Anonymousreply 5707/25/2020

If you have a hard-on and can successfully launch it into somebody else's hole, you're not that high/drunk.

by Anonymousreply 5807/25/2020

R56 Up until the early 70s one always heard about kids graduating early from high school under the age of 15 or so. But then that doesn’t seem to have happened anymore. What was that all about? And how pissed do you think that 18 year old number 2 in his graduating class was that year.

by Anonymousreply 5907/25/2020

A good friend of mine is Robby’s cousin and I got to meet him once for a tiny moment. He was breathtaking and I was too overwhelmed to say anything.

by Anonymousreply 6007/25/2020

[quote]Why would a 1-time experience convince Billy Joe that he was gay?

He'd probably always been aware on some level of the attraction, but once it was something he'd acted upon, it just clicked, and he knew.

[quote]Couldn't he have gone to church, ask for forgiveness for his supposed "sin,"

No, R57. In a small-town Southern community, homosexuality marks you. There would have been talk forever.

[quote]and then marry his friend/girl friend?

Speaking for myself, I could not have done that. No way, no matter what.

[quote]That's what church going girls in Conservative small towns, who had illegal abortions, did at the time.

Completely different issue. A pregnancy ended, or a child given up for adoption, and a woman can put it behind her, provided no one in town knows. But homosexuality is forever.

[quote]Yes that was the norm for centuries. Normally married gay/bi men would go on a "business trip" and have a fling in a big anonymous city. Same with a man who wanted a wilder woman (usually not White.)

You're looking at it through 21st century eyes, R57, through the eyes of someone who has experience. Not through the eyes of a 1970s teenager who's tasted it for the first time and realizes there will never be anything else for him, and can't live with his family finding out, which they unquestionably would in time.

by Anonymousreply 6107/25/2020

I don't remember the movie. Does BJ actually come out and say he was looking for gay sex?

by Anonymousreply 6207/25/2020

Watch it, R62.

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by Anonymousreply 6307/25/2020

Robby got locked into a string of shit movies, just like that red head Annette O Toole. Annette should have followed the path of her brother Samuel and gone into porn.

by Anonymousreply 6407/25/2020

R62, According to Wikipedia: : "He admits to Bobbie Lee that he has been with a man, and when she tries to reason that he was drunk, so maybe didn't have complete control of himself and didn't really know what was going on, he confesses that he knew what he was doing, knew it was wrong, and did it anyway because he wanted to. "

by Anonymousreply 6507/25/2020

[quote]Typical 1990s narrative for gay characters; they always tended to die one way or another. There's a movie adapted from a short story written by a straight woman, Brokeback Mountain (1995), which perpetuates it.

Fixed, r55.

by Anonymousreply 6607/25/2020

The narrative that gays have to die was far less prevalent in the 90s than in the 70s, R66.

by Anonymousreply 6707/25/2020

And then we got Brokeback Mountain, r67.

by Anonymousreply 6807/25/2020

Glynis O'Connor was the third (of four) Margo Hughes on As The World Turns. She was without question regarded as the best of the four.

by Anonymousreply 6907/25/2020

Argumentative, aren't you? Had it followed the 70s pattern, R68, they'd have both died.

You cannot make 'Brokeback Mountain' typify the entire period.

by Anonymousreply 7007/25/2020

Doesn't the girl try to fuck it out of him but he can't get it up?

by Anonymousreply 7107/25/2020

What show is this from?

by Anonymousreply 7207/25/2020

R72, The Golden Girls, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 7307/25/2020

Oh, this is actually a film called Ode to Billy Joe.

You could have been clearer, Boomers.

by Anonymousreply 7407/25/2020

It's a coming of age homosexual movie. Go watch it now. You won't regret it.

by Anonymousreply 7507/25/2020

Hope they douched first.

by Anonymousreply 7607/25/2020

Bump.

by Anonymousreply 7707/26/2020

r46 We need to cancel Dorothy Moore for cultural appropriation.

by Anonymousreply 7807/26/2020

R74 you seem retarded

by Anonymousreply 7907/26/2020

Well, I'm getting a free meal out of all this.

by Anonymousreply 8007/26/2020

I just watched the movie thanks to this thread. As I was watching I was reminded of Summer of ‘42, then afterward I saw that Herman Raucher wrote both. Robby Benson was so beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 8107/26/2020

[quote]Robby got locked into a string of shit movies, just like that red head Annette O Toole. Annette should have followed the path of her brother Samuel and gone into porn.

Whatchu talkin' bout Willis? IMBD has no mention of a brother. Spill it.

by Anonymousreply 8207/26/2020

Google 'Samuel O'Toole', R82. No relation to Annette O'Toole.

by Anonymousreply 8307/26/2020

The movie was dumb. But the song was always haunting. I think listeners were always intrigued by the mystery; what did Billy Joe and the girl throw off the Tallahatchie Bridge?

by Anonymousreply 8407/26/2020

Billy Joe was purdy.

by Anonymousreply 8507/26/2020

Some cornbread muffins that had gone rancid, R84.

What 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 they have thrown that would be worthy of the suicide and subsequent mystery?

by Anonymousreply 8607/26/2020

At the beginning of the movie I thought Billy Joe was a tad special, but he was just acting goofy, right?

by Anonymousreply 8707/26/2020

R86 It's possible what was thrown off the bridge was not related to the suicide, just a tangential observation.

by Anonymousreply 8807/26/2020

Speculate, R88: What could it have been?

by Anonymousreply 8907/26/2020

Did Robby give his hole to men in real life?

by Anonymousreply 9007/26/2020

That's what Bobby Gentry wanted, for the listeners of the song to imagine themselves what it might have been.

by Anonymousreply 9107/26/2020

We're going to do a new group version of the song as a benefit for transgender rights.

by Anonymousreply 9207/26/2020

They threw off an aborted fetus.

by Anonymousreply 9307/26/2020

R93, not according to the movie. Billy Joe couldn’t get it up for a girl.

by Anonymousreply 9407/26/2020

"What 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 they have thrown that would be worthy of the suicide and subsequent mystery?"

Maybe Billy impregnated The Girl. He takes her to some old woman who lives in a shack in the backwoods to have an abortion. After the abortion, Billy Joe and The Girl take the aborted fetus out to the Tallahatchie Bridge have a memorial for it before disposing of it by throwing it off the bridge. Billy Joe, consumed with guilt over the pregnancy and abortion, commits suicide. I always though that was the most plausible explanation.

by Anonymousreply 9507/26/2020

I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say the Billy Joe was clearly the mastermind of an international drug cartel. Suicide?! Think again, rubes!

by Anonymousreply 9607/26/2020

Robby Benson is up there with Rupert Graves in the Twink Hall of Fame.

by Anonymousreply 9707/26/2020

Someone please post the scene where Roscoe has his way with him. I can't find it online.

by Anonymousreply 9807/26/2020

R98, it’s not shown, just talked about.

by Anonymousreply 9907/26/2020

My guess is some mutual masturbation. I don't think Billy would have fucked him in the ass or got fucked in his.

by Anonymousreply 10007/26/2020

R100, I absolutely think Billy Joe was cornholed and he liked it. There wouldn’t have been a tearful confession about mutual masturbation.

by Anonymousreply 10107/26/2020

Billy Joe should have gotten a good pounding out if he was going to kill himself. Pretty guys are so stupid.

by Anonymousreply 10207/26/2020

Maybe the scene was cut and it will be in the blu-ray edition.

I say it was oral.

by Anonymousreply 10307/26/2020

R95, I always thought the same thing: a forbidden abortion. Bobbie Gentry left it up to the listener's imagination.

by Anonymousreply 10407/26/2020

If there are deleted scenes I want Robby Benson nudity.

by Anonymousreply 10507/26/2020

Robby Benson still looks pretty good, except when he lets his hair and beard grow too long and unkempt. His wife, Karla DeVito, is a gray-haired hag. But the marriage is obviously a good one; they've been married since 1982.

by Anonymousreply 10607/26/2020

I don't think abortionists would made their patients take the contents home. It wasn't a fucking fetus thrown from the bridge.

by Anonymousreply 10707/26/2020

Perhaps it was Billy Joe's diary, or his gay 'sexbooks' that were thrown from the bridge.

by Anonymousreply 10807/26/2020

Billy Joe working his Daisy Mays

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Who was Daisy May?

by Anonymousreply 11007/26/2020

Was she like Gloria Vanderbilt or Antoine Bugleboy?

by Anonymousreply 11107/26/2020

If Billie Joe hadn't thrown his surfboard off the bridge he'd be sucking cock today.

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by Anonymousreply 11207/26/2020

Holy Shit!

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by Anonymousreply 11307/26/2020

Cocktaw Ridge.

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by Anonymousreply 11407/26/2020

So they made a movie and never broached the topic of what was thrown off a bridge?

That was the whole mystery of the song.

by Anonymousreply 11507/26/2020

I mentioned the doll at the start of the thread, from what I remember that’s what was thrown off the bridge. Wasn’t it in the song or the movie?

by Anonymousreply 11607/26/2020

[quote]Who was Daisy May?

R110, Daisy Mae Duke, a character from 'The Dukes of Hazzard' television series, played by Catherine Bach. The extremely short shorts she wore on the series were given her character's name - 'Daisy Maes.'

In R109's pic, Robby Benson is wearing such a pair of shorts.

by Anonymousreply 11707/26/2020

Billy Joe MacAllister first phone sex operator in Tupelo Mi.

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by Anonymousreply 11807/26/2020

R118 Was it a party line?

by Anonymousreply 11907/26/2020

Roscoe P Coltrane was an child sex trafficker, who trafficked victims to Tom Hanks and Oprah. Billy Joe was one of his many victims.

by Anonymousreply 12007/26/2020

My friends call me BJ preacher Paul.

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Call Me By Y'all's Name

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by Anonymousreply 12207/26/2020

It looks like tomorrow is Bobbie Gentry’s birthday, she’ll be 78.

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Bobbie gentry is that the song was based on real events and that there had been a young man that he committed suicide by jumping off the bridge but she also said she had no idea why he did it.

The song does not say what they were throwing off the bridge.

The movie shows Billie Joe accidentally dropping/throwing hey dial into the river. The doll belong to Bobbi

by Anonymousreply 12407/26/2020

I hate siri/auto correct.

Bobbie Gentry has said that the song was based on real events and that there had been a young man that had committed suicide by jumping off the bridge but she also said she had no idea why he did it.

The song does not say what they were throwing off the bridge.

The movie shows Billie Joe accidentally dropping/throwing the doll into the river. The doll belong to Bobbi

by Anonymousreply 12507/26/2020

[quote] throwing hey dial into the river

cum again, R124?

by Anonymousreply 12607/26/2020

Those jean shorts were called "Daisy Dukes" and not "Daisy Maes".

Daisy Mae was Granny's real name on The Beverly Hillbillies.

The song's narrator says that after Billy Joe's death, "And me, I spend a lot of time pickin' flowers up on Choctaw Ridge/And drop them into the muddy water off the Tallahatchie Bridge."

by Anonymousreply 12707/26/2020

I met him in Las Vegas at a video convention along with Ann Miller, Van Johnson, Elayne Boosler, Sam Jones. He was nice and next doorish.

Keanu and Alex were there too. for Bill and Ted. I didn't really have interest.

Oh yeah I met a then new to the scene Joey Stefano at the Adult portion of the convention.

Thanks foe listening to my ramble.

by Anonymousreply 12807/26/2020

^ Any dirt about Van Johnson or Ann Miller?

by Anonymousreply 12907/26/2020

Billy Joe McAllister was transformed into a hideous beast as punishment for fucking/sucking/masturbating Roscoe P. Coltrane. Only the act of heterosexual sex could free him from this curse. The night before the last petal fell from his gay little rose, he shacked up with a local village girl and was changed back to the handsome twink in the photos above. He promptly dumped the village girl and rode his horse nonstop to the Mineshaft. Some say it may have been the Ramrod or Eagle. You get the picture.

by Anonymousreply 13007/26/2020

[quote]Bobbie Gentry has said that the song was based on real events and that there had been a young man that had committed suicide by jumping off the bridge but she also said she had no idea why he did it.

I'm pretty sure she never said anything like that, [r125]. Gentry has always been very coy about anything pertaining to this song...and anyway, I've been to that bridge. It's fairly close to the water and I don't think you could kill yourself by jumping off of it.

by Anonymousreply 13107/27/2020

I'm sure it was a deep fudge packing. Nobody kills themself over a bj.

by Anonymousreply 13207/27/2020

R131 as far as I know Bobbie Gentry never publicly stated why the boy killed himself.

After last June 3rd I ordered the DVD. I’ve watched it twice along with the eight minute 55 second documentary short “ Bobbie Gentry a voice of the South“

Concerning Gentry’s knowledge of the motive for the boy’s suicide I went to Wikipedia (which is not always 100% accurate, unfortunately) and read this passage

“When Herman Raucher met Gentry in preparation for writing a novel and screenplay based on the song, she said that she had no idea why Billie Joe killed himself.“

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I just discovered this it Wikipedia

The bridge is steps from now-ruined Bryant's Grocery and Meat Market, where 14-year-old Emmett Till allegedly whistled at the co-owner in 1955, resulting in the boy's lynching. His body was sunk in the Tallahatchie River.

by Anonymousreply 13407/27/2020

[quote] The bridge is steps from now-ruined Bryant's Grocery and Meat Market

They’re 18 miles apart.

by Anonymousreply 13507/27/2020

Does Billie Joe get called a “fag” in the movie at all?

by Anonymousreply 13607/27/2020

"I don't think abortionists would made their patients take the contents home. It wasn't a fucking fetus thrown from the bridge."

Maybe they would if the abortionist was an old woman who lived in a shack in the woods somewhere out in Hicksville. It's possible The Girl and Billy Joe asked for the remnants of their child in order to give it a decent farewell. I think it's a very plausible scenario.

by Anonymousreply 13707/27/2020

It's not like that bridge is very high.

by Anonymousreply 13807/27/2020

Can we get back to Robby’s hole?

by Anonymousreply 13907/27/2020

I think he got a doll stuck in there.

by Anonymousreply 14007/27/2020

R138 didn't Marcie Blane sing a song about it?

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by Anonymousreply 14107/27/2020

I had no idea his wife (Karla DeVito) is the woman from Paradise By The Dashboard Light. I always thought she hammed it up way too much.

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R137

[quote] It's possible The Girl and Billy Joe asked for the remnants of their child in order to give it a decent farewell. I think it's a very plausible scenario.

A decent farewell by throwing it off a bridge? Lol. Yes, very plausible scenario

by Anonymousreply 14307/27/2020

R143 Well not seen in the movie, they also threw a headstone in the river right afterwards too.

by Anonymousreply 14407/27/2020

That song was my inspiration for my wonderful books and television series.

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by Anonymousreply 14507/27/2020

They didn't need an abortionist. The girl could have induced a miscarriage.

by Anonymousreply 14607/27/2020

Billy Joe isn't called a fag in the film. However, Bobbie Lee calls him "one of those men" or "those kinds of men." That does not sit well with BJ and likely gave him the push to kill himself. She couldn't fuck the gay out of him.

by Anonymousreply 14707/27/2020

Why didn't he just pray the gay away like I did?

by Anonymousreply 14807/27/2020

If the story took place in NYC, which bridge or building would BJ have jumped off?

by Anonymousreply 14907/27/2020

^ Brooklyn Bridge

by Anonymousreply 15007/27/2020

He wouldn't have killed himself in NYC. He would have gone to live with his older lover.

by Anonymousreply 15107/27/2020

"A decent farewell by throwing it off a bridge? Lol. Yes, very plausible scenario."

You just don't GET it, do you? They were white trash, hicks, rednecks. Saying a prayer and throwing their aborted child from the bridge probably seemed, to them, like a decent thing to do. I suppose it seemed like a ritual. It was certainly better than having the abortionist throw it in the trash for dogs to eat.

by Anonymousreply 15207/27/2020

[quote]He wouldn't have killed himself in NYC. He would have gone to live with his older lover.

After the adoption, of course.

by Anonymousreply 15307/27/2020

R114 makes me happy.

by Anonymousreply 15407/27/2020

There's a young saleswoman at a vineyard in Ithaca, NY, who looks exactly like Robbie Benson circa 1977. Same haircut, etc. I was trying to figure out who she reminded me of when I was buying the wine, and when it hit me on the way out the door I started giggling.

by Anonymousreply 15507/27/2020

Billy Joe seemed a little off in the movie. I think the girl lusted after his body, but not necessarily his mind. Didn't the older guy confess to having molested Billy Joe? Did he give any hints as to what they did?

by Anonymousreply 15607/27/2020

The girl was the original Grace Adler.

by Anonymousreply 15707/27/2020

Was Robbie's voice always that whiny?

by Anonymousreply 15807/27/2020

What grubby old fatty paid for the joy of taking Robbie cherry, I wonder? Hopefully he hired a well-endowed stunt dick for the job. Honest brides always bleed, Robbie, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 15907/27/2020

R128 Keanu and Joey Stefano under the same roof. The mind boggles.

by Anonymousreply 16007/27/2020

The fuck you going on about, r159?

by Anonymousreply 16107/27/2020

r129

No real dish on Ann or Van. They were there promoting MGM on video. Ann went to dinner with us, she was a nice lady, a little squirrely.

by Anonymousreply 16207/27/2020

R160- It was a strange experience indeed. It was my first video convention. 1/2 of the convention was regular movies and entertainment, the other 1/2 was all adult. the usual suspects were there, Ron Jeremy, I think one of the Lynn girls too. Chi Chi Larue was parading around Joey and introducing him to people. Later I saw Joey on his own and we talked a bit, nice guy. One strange thing is I saw him in Kansas City probably a year later at a club appearance and he remembered me from Vegas, or maybe he just said he did. Super nice guy, didn't seem troubled.

by Anonymousreply 16307/27/2020

In the book the girl leaves town letting everyone believe she's pregnant so Billy Joe's hetro rep will be saved. As she's leaving the sheriff tells her "I told Billy Joe it would never be the same afterwards."

by Anonymousreply 16407/27/2020

Did he jump...

OR

was he PUSHED????

by Anonymousreply 16507/27/2020

R165, his huge penis made him lose his balance.

by Anonymousreply 16607/27/2020

A tale as old as time: Billy Joe was a hot twink who loved to receive hard poundings from random Top Daddies.

by Anonymousreply 16707/28/2020

R167 No one is random in a town that small, unless he was a traveling salesman.

by Anonymousreply 16807/28/2020

Wrong. Billy Joe preferred to give. He pounded the older man until the older man split in half.

by Anonymousreply 16907/28/2020

Let's fuck the gay out of you, boy.

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by Anonymousreply 17007/28/2020

Now I'm starting to wonder if Billy Joe was giving handjobs to the guys in the dark back row of the Carroll County picture show. That was the day he put a frog down the narrator's back, maybe to "prove" he still had some interest in the gals.

by Anonymousreply 17107/28/2020

It's pretty homophobic that Billy Joe's dark secret was just a little same sex experimentation. And as trivial as it was it drove him to suicide. What a crappy movie.

by Anonymousreply 17207/28/2020

Max Baer Jr's other well-known film, Macon County Line, contains the disturbing scene in which the Sheriff's wife is raped and murdered. As the one guy is forcing her to masturbate him, he's having flashbacks of beating beaten by cops. What the fuck? Here's part of the scene, with the most graphic bits left out....

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by Anonymousreply 17307/28/2020

No thanks. I'd rather watch the scene of Billy Joe fucking.

by Anonymousreply 17407/28/2020

R163 I shared a limo with Nick in the big 80's also shared a urinal with Keanu. They had a lot in common.

by Anonymousreply 17507/28/2020

I love Green Day!

by Anonymousreply 17607/28/2020

I'm amazed how many folks watched that movie and didn't realize why Billy Jo McAllister jumped off the Tallahatchie Bridge!

by Anonymousreply 17707/28/2020

[quote] His wife, Karla DeVito, is a gray-haired hag. But the marriage is obviously a good one; they've been married since 1982.

After I paid perfectly good money to see Linda Ronstadt in "The Pirates of Penzance" on Broadway, she was out that day and Karla DeVito was playing her role.

by Anonymousreply 17807/28/2020

[quote]and Karla DeVito was playing her role. —And I'm still bitter about it

Be glad it wasn't Danny Devito.

by Anonymousreply 17907/28/2020

Who will play the main roles in the inevitable reboot? I think Logan Lerman has aged out of the part or he'd be perfect.

by Anonymousreply 18007/28/2020

If it’s the porn version, I nominate Dakota Lovell.

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by Anonymousreply 18107/28/2020

Maybe the spiderman kid.

by Anonymousreply 18207/28/2020

Little Sally Draper

by Anonymousreply 18307/28/2020

Seems like nothin' ever comes to no good up on Choctaw Ridge.

by Anonymousreply 18407/29/2020

Check out Bobbie Gentry's abs.

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by Anonymousreply 18507/29/2020

I can’t tell you what a positive message this was for gay kids growing up in the 70s. Thankfully I grew up in a flat part of the country.

by Anonymousreply 18607/29/2020

R173 My God, the seventies sure loved the rape scenes! The more graphic and gratuitous the better. See also: all of those horrible Death Wish movies. Depressing and depraved.

by Anonymousreply 18707/29/2020

R186 Pardon me, but I can’t tell if you are being facetious or not?

by Anonymousreply 18807/29/2020

I'd have paid good money to have had Billy Joe sit on my face.

by Anonymousreply 18907/29/2020

Billie Joe killed himself and yet the family is critical or dismissive. It's clear from the song that the young girl was close to him, but her family is oblivious or thoughtless. The girl loses her appetite upon hearing Billie Joe committed suicide, but the family is oblivious, the father wants more biscuits.

by Anonymousreply 19007/29/2020

R189, yum.

by Anonymousreply 19107/29/2020

[R190] More "biscuits."

by Anonymousreply 19207/29/2020

I'd love a good taste of Billy Joe's "biscuits."

by Anonymousreply 19307/29/2020

Not his chitlins?

by Anonymousreply 19407/29/2020

I've posted this here before. Robby is great guy. I saw him and Karla in his semi-autobiographical musical "Open Heart" at the Cherry Lane theater in NYC. It's small place so as he was making his entrance through the audience he stepped on my foot. Saw him outside the theater after and we laughed about it. We subsequently friended each other on Facebook and still chat occasionally on there. He is really devoted to his wife Karla. Robby still looks great by the way. I wish I still looked so good. A nice man all around.

by Anonymousreply 19507/29/2020

My mom was knew Robby Benson's mom. She told me Robbie had a very serious congenital heart condition and he had been close too death several times.

by Anonymousreply 19607/29/2020

So if there was no male on male actions scenes what do the characters actually do and say for the viewer to conclude that Billy Joe nd Roscoe hooked up?

by Anonymousreply 19707/29/2020

The girl tries to fuck him but he turns her down with some lame excuse about being a filthy fucking pervert.

by Anonymousreply 19807/29/2020

Can you as Robbie what kind of sex BJ had withe old guy? Does the scene exist?

by Anonymousreply 19907/30/2020

I wonder why they changed the spelling from Billie Joe to Billy Joe.

The song is titled "Ode to Billie Joe"

The movie is titled "Ode to Billy Joe"

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by Anonymousreply 20007/30/2020

Well that helps explains why I kept remembering it as “ie” and not “y”! Isn’t Billie more used as a feminine name?

by Anonymousreply 20107/30/2020

Jesus, he spent time with Paul Newman? Are we not gonna speculate that Newman enjoyed his tight 70s twink body? I mean look at that pic on R122.

by Anonymousreply 20207/30/2020

Was Robby his hoped for costar if he was going to film the Front Runner?

by Anonymousreply 20307/30/2020

Paul was courting Richard Thomas for that role R203.....but there would have been no challenge there to get him into bed.

by Anonymousreply 20407/30/2020

[quote]I wonder why they changed the spelling from Billie Joe to Billy Joe.

"Billie" is more girly, and the character was already a closet case in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 20507/30/2020

He wasn't a closet case. His boy parts reacted in the way they were meant to and for that, he felt guilty.

by Anonymousreply 20607/30/2020

R206, do you mean his bussy?

by Anonymousreply 20707/30/2020

Until the cut scenes are made available, we won't know what parts were used.

by Anonymousreply 20807/30/2020

I've always had a fetish for boys with enormous hair helmets. Upstairs and down.

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by Anonymousreply 20907/30/2020

R200 , Well if you can believe Wikipedia: "Gentry stated that the original spelling had been a typo, this is corroborated by her original hand-written lyrics of the song."

by Anonymousreply 21007/31/2020

Here you can some of the lyrics and it's spelled Billy not Billie

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by Anonymousreply 21107/31/2020

Maybe Gentry didn't have a lick of sense either.

by Anonymousreply 21207/31/2020

I think the underlying secret here is Billie was actually a girl passing as a boy, that would explain a lot.

by Anonymousreply 21307/31/2020

McAllister? That's a Scottish name. The Scots are some fucked up people. It comes from eating sheep's brains all their lives.

by Anonymousreply 21407/31/2020

Back to the important stuff: What kind of sex did they have?

by Anonymousreply 21507/31/2020

R215, bareback buttfucking.

by Anonymousreply 21607/31/2020

R215 The kind where a man goes up into another man.

by Anonymousreply 21707/31/2020

Nah, I think the old guy probably sucked Billy's dick.

by Anonymousreply 21807/31/2020

R218, there’s no way he wouldn’t have taken his boy cherry. That was primo Robby Benson hole.

by Anonymousreply 21907/31/2020

Where was this supposed to have happened? The scene shows BJ going into a stall with a hooker. A woman.

by Anonymousreply 22007/31/2020

What a strange yet interesting thread. It really is a great song.

by Anonymousreply 22107/31/2020

Ode to Billie Joe and this song hit the airwaves around the same time when I was a little kid in the late 60s. Led me to think of the Deep South as quite a hotbed.

In the late 70s the girls used to call me Robby because I resembled Benson; alas, I never had a Billy Joe moment.

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by Anonymousreply 22207/31/2020

They did a tv show based on Harper Valley PTA. All those country songs provided made-for-tv movie hits.

by Anonymousreply 22307/31/2020

There was a movie before the series, R223, just a couple of years after the movie version of Ode to Billy Joe.

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by Anonymousreply 22407/31/2020

where is the dick sucking? i'm confused as i was in 6th grade.

by Anonymousreply 22507/31/2020

why does he have yellow skin?

by Anonymousreply 22607/31/2020

when the fuck did he explain it to her. i get the end. ugh

by Anonymousreply 22707/31/2020

Was there a movie for The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia?

by Anonymousreply 22807/31/2020

Sadly, R228...

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by Anonymousreply 22907/31/2020

[quote]Was there a movie for The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia?

Starring Kristy McNichol, Dennis Quaid and Mark Hamill!! A DL wet dream of casting.

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by Anonymousreply 23007/31/2020

Besides bad movies, what was the reason Kristy MacNichol disappeared from show biz, was it bipolar or schizophrenia or something? I remember Jimmy having to take care of her or something!

by Anonymousreply 23107/31/2020

[quote]what was the reason Kristy MacNichol disappeared from show biz

Hollywood doesn't go for lesbians. Look at the trouble Ellen is having. They all end up drunk and in the gutter.

by Anonymousreply 23207/31/2020

Hollywood doesn't go for booze and lesbians.

by Anonymousreply 23307/31/2020

No way would a virgin like Billy Joe allow a full grown dick to enter his hole. He'd be way too scared of being "tore up" down there. That scene would not be hot. It's Roscoe P. Coltrane, for fucks sake.

by Anonymousreply 23407/31/2020

I think they were throwing flowers off the bridge in remembrance of someone else who had died, the same way the protagonist throws flowers off the bridge in remembrance of BJ. That's what they were talking after church.

by Anonymousreply 23508/01/2020

... talking about after church.

by Anonymousreply 23608/01/2020

Ode to Billy Joel would have been a very different film.

by Anonymousreply 23708/01/2020

Some scenes from “the night the lights went out in Georgia“ were filmed about 20 miles from my house in a small town named Trenton Georgia.

by Anonymousreply 23808/01/2020

Billy Joe was one hot piece of twink ass.

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by Anonymousreply 23908/02/2020

Wasn’t the hooker a transvestite?

by Anonymousreply 24008/02/2020

That's what I always thought, R240.

by Anonymousreply 24108/03/2020

This thread is a true delight.

by Anonymousreply 24208/03/2020

R127, Granny’s name was Daisy May Moses, though it was seldom mentioned.

The more popular and familiar Daisy Mae was the voluptuous and lovesick girl in the 43-year run of the comic strip and later Broadway show and movie L’il Abner.

by Anonymousreply 24308/03/2020

The way Billy Joe said: "I've been with a man....." made me think that they had had sex not just blow jobs or jacking off......

.....in the back of the patrol car with a uniformed officer.....that was hot.

by Anonymousreply 24408/03/2020

There is no uniformed officer in this tale as old as time.

Billie Joe was full on country. He had never had sex and was likely ignorant of what happens. When he says he's been with a man, it could very well mean they just kissed or masturbated together. Personally, if I was Bobbie Lee, I would have demanded details from both BJ and fucking Roscoe P. Coltrane.

by Anonymousreply 24508/03/2020

I let Billy Joe blow me on that bridge. That boy had a purty mouth, fo' sure.

by Anonymousreply 24608/03/2020

Robby’s pink hole was plundered and used.

by Anonymousreply 24708/03/2020

Why do you think we call it corn holing?

by Anonymousreply 24808/03/2020

R234, you ought to look at "Roscoe" when he was younger. Damn, he was hot. He did a couple of Andy Griffith shows, Perry Masons, etc, where he was smokin'!

by Anonymousreply 24908/04/2020

Wasn't he fat and missing teeth in the movie?

by Anonymousreply 25008/04/2020

R250, the only thing fat in the movie was my twink cock.

by Anonymousreply 25108/04/2020

Young James Best was pretty hot in that dirty Southern white boy way. He was still handsome in Ode, though about a biscuit or two from morphing into Roscoe.

I haven’t watched the movie in forever, but I remember BJ running off after the jamboree. BL found him and that’s when he admitted to her that he’d been with a man.

The flashback scene was purposely confusing due to the delicate natures of the day, but I think drunken BJ thought he’d dabble with a budget whore in the hooker pavilion but ended up with our man Roscoe (and he liked it!). My memory is fuzzy here, because I’ve probably watched too many heavily cut versions, but Dewey might have been wearing a robe or, god love him, a caftan. My guess is he saw his chance and set up a glory hole-like situation to sample the menfolk of the town, but took it further when he realized how fucked up BJ was.

BJ should have packed his bags for Atlanta like any good gay boy from the South, but decided to take his own life.

Later on, Dewey runs into BL as she’s leaving town. He admits that it was him in the tent and she shouldn’t leave when he was the one who was to blame. BL says she’s still leaving so everyone thinks BJ knocked her up and killed himself because of it. I guess she thought that was more heroic, though I thought he still seemed like a crybaby little shit either way. The whole town assumed she was pregnant, anyhow, so she saved Dewey’s ass.

I wonder what Dewey did for Jamboree the next year?

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by Anonymousreply 25208/05/2020

Not to be picayune but it's just "Rosco." Rosco Purvis Coltrane.

by Anonymousreply 25308/06/2020

I hate that I also know his middle name is Purvis, r253.

by Anonymousreply 25408/06/2020

I'm really trying to avoid having to watch the entire movie but this thread is getting me more and more confused about what actually happened. What's a picayune?

by Anonymousreply 25508/06/2020

[R254] I have mixed feelings over knowing his dog's name was Flash.

by Anonymousreply 25608/06/2020

James Best was a cousin to the Everly Brothers......but I may have mentioned that before.....

by Anonymousreply 25708/06/2020

Glynnis O’Connor did another movie in which she played a disfigured woman who had her pussy lips transplanted to her face. Can’t watch any of her movies without staring at her lips

by Anonymousreply 25808/06/2020

I had no idea Glynnis and Robby were in another movie called Jeremy (1973) and he sings!

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by Anonymousreply 25908/06/2020

Glynnis will always be known as the quintessential Margo Hughes on "As the World Turns".

by Anonymousreply 26008/06/2020

Oh yeah? And what will Robbie always be known as?

by Anonymousreply 26108/06/2020

Is it too late for a sequel?

by Anonymousreply 26208/06/2020

He died. What would a sequel look like exactly?

by Anonymousreply 26308/06/2020
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by Anonymousreply 26408/06/2020

Um, BJ comes back as a swamp monster to rape all the town men?

by Anonymousreply 26512 hours ago

R265, damnit! Just when I thought this twink-raping thread was over you suck us back in.

by Anonymousreply 26612 hours ago

My apologies. I was getting tired of the million threads on the royal family.

by Anonymousreply 26711 hours ago

Did any royal twinks have sex with unscrupulous law enforcement officers and go off the deep end?

by Anonymousreply 26811 hours ago

Why do you think Harry is so fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 26911 hours ago
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