Christian Author Matthew Paul Turner Comes Out as Gay, Divorces Wife

She’s better off without him.

I'm glad he found himself. Better late than never.

It is a shame that his involvement with religion kept him from being who he really is, at least his involvement with fundamentalist, evangelical religion. Maybe I am selfish but I always put myself before my religion. I'm a Catholic but not a Christian, perhaps that is the difference between him and I.

As a Christian author, what has he said about gays in the past?

pathetic

hope his life is miserable

[quote] I'm a Catholic but not a Christian, perhaps that is the difference [bold]between him and I[/bold].

Just between you and me, I guess the nuns had given up on grammar by the time you went to school.

[quote] thoroughly love doing life,

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r6 This is a message board so I don't care about grammar but thank you for being anile about it.

Good for Matthew Paul Turner.

I am so tired of stories about unattractive people.

Was he just a closet or did he do harm ?

[quote] Was he just a closet

He was a plastic surgery too.

R3 "I'm a Catholic but not a Christian" Yeah, that's not possible, buddy

r5, you sound very unhappy with your own lot in life.

One of my friends, formerly evangelical but still religious, who came out after a het marriage (and a child) once told me that we have to bear in mind that we are all on different paths. Judging someone because they arrive at a similar destination as you but at a different point in time doesn't take into account their personal histories and all the influences and demands therein.

Wishing misery on a stranger for just this tells much more about you than it does about Turner.

Who cares? He's fug.

Yikes, what a mess. Good luck to all of them.

Most of the time these pastor types ping loudly, but this guy I wouldn't have guessed.

I wonder what the "reverend" Paula Michelle White-CainFace thinks of this?

The wife's forced smile just screams, "YES I'M PRETENDING TO BE FINE WITH THIS!!!!!"

R3, how can you be Catholic but not Christian. Catholics ARE Christians.

Just not fundamental Christians; there’s a lot of fanciful invention in the RC

Well, at least he was finally honest with himself and his family ... but maybe if he had been braver with himself and his choices, in his God’s eyes, his wife could have married someone straight and had a marriage that lasted ( big maybe I know ) and maybe his kids would have avoided the ridicule they will undoubtedly get from the other good Christian kids.

Anyone who takes one look at his face knows he was gay. I mean, talk about gay-face.

I don't understand why any LGBT+ person is "conservative" or religious. It's utterly stupid.

No one can resist the pull of the dick for long.

R24, Or the tug of it...!

R11 Have a look

I hate saying this, but he looks poz. I hope the wife has been tested.

Celia Rubinstein was a friend to all mankind........

WHO?????!!!!!!!

r1 You okay, honey? Does this bring back any memories?

He looks like a future leather bear, if he isn't already one.

R27, that's the most DL comment ever! His glasses scream gay to me.

He's got three little kids; they're really young so daddy moving out -- and in with another daddy someday -- will be traumatic.

The sons will be overprotective of the mom.

who knows how the daughter will react?

So, this guy fucked his wife at least three times if they've got three kids.

Makes me think that guy I know who's been married THREE times and has one bio kid might be running from something.

[quote] I'm glad he found himself. Better late than never.

Judging by his Insta post he's always known. If he's been having sex all these years with his wife it's clear he's really bi, not gay. We all know completely gay men would have extremely hard time having sex with women for two decades.

Two decades? How about two minutes...!

Can you imagine people who inhale Christian Literature? I guess church just isn't enough; they need to be saturated in the blood of Jesus.

R12, the nuns taught him nothing, neither grammar nor religion. They must have been a bunch of hippy-dippy, Devil-may-care, post-Vatican II nuns.

Addressed to R13. ^

R33 You're so simple-minded. Maybe he was thinking about men when he slept with his wife? Maybe he used erectile aides? Maybe both? It's ridiculous of you to pretend to know how he did it.

If he were bi, he'd just say so, as men tend to downplay their homosexuality. Gay men often come out as bi, and bi men like to pretend they're straight.

[quote] If he's been having sex all these years with his wife it's clear he's really bi, not gay.

So when guys jerk off they aren't straight or gay, they're handsexual. *eyeroll*

I know some people just MUST believe that there just HAS to be emotional attachment, but he was honestly just sticking his dick in something because that's what he felt he had to do.

Some of the comments here sound like they were made by Helen Lovejoy:

Case in point:

[Quote]He's got three little kids; they're really young so daddy moving out -- and in with another daddy someday -- will be traumatic

I have a married religious cousin who has had sex with his wife ONLY for the purposes of pro-creation.

And that some people think he's gay because of that.

That and all the guys he's had sex with.

Thanks for the unsolicited information, John.*

[R36] those are the best kind.

It's a selfish narcissist who marries a woman while knowing inside that he is gay. He stole her life and her chance to be married to someone who could truly love her. He did this with full knowledge he had sexual desires for men. Religion is the most fucked up thing mankind invented. All this suffering because of some made up invisible sky genie. Grown humans who cling to this fairy tale shit should be embarrassed. I feel for her and the kids, but of course, he had to go public and make it all about him.

R43 Oh please, he gave her a home, a family, and plenty of crotchfruit, homophobic Mary.

We don't want him, can we give him back?

No respect, he says “I’m ready to embrace freedom, hope, and God as a gay man.” What about the sex? He could have at least said ‘freedom, hope, God and sodomy’.

Any comment yet from his invisible sky pal?

"He stole her life "

How? Did he kill her? No, he didn't.

People get divorced all the time for tons of reasons. Do you get so worked up over every divorce?

And as for the religious flim-flammery? She's a part of it. Nothing about his statement suggests that she didn't know about his "struggles." In fact, everything suggests that she knew all about it. But I'm guessing she bought into that whole "the love of god and good woman is magic" ideology. That was her choice to make. And her choice had its consequences.

So...

[quote] Was he just a closet or did he do harm ?

Oh honey, he was an entire boudoir!

r44 You're the one crying homophobia over something that has nothing to do with homophobia, Mary!

[quote]This is a message board so I don't care about grammar

You don't follow grammar for yourself, you do it for others.

And now, a statement from Jessica . . .

He looks like he would jump into a fisting scene right after this announcement.

Who?

Who cares?

R46 I'm sure he'll be doing that as he wraps his hole around all the cock it can take. God is sure to come up in a least a few moments of bliss.

r48 - What causes the lack of empathy towards the woman in these situations, she hasn't said one hateful word

Sounds like another middle aged man in a midlife crisis. Is he worried that he's missing out?

[quote]I know some people just MUST believe that there just HAS to be emotional attachment,

No, they're thinking there HAS to be some degree of physical arousal.

R44/R48: he deprived his wife of a chance at having a heterosexual husband, which is pretty selfish, and himself of having a fulfilling same-sex relationship or marriage. How can you take offense at what R43 wrote?

As we splatter our Insta with tl;dr posts about our marriage, the big reveal, and the years of living fraudulently, we ask that you give us privacy as my soon-to-be ex-husband attempts to wrap the shroud of Turin around his pitiful hypocrisy. We ask that you not criticize or shame our theology or our pathetic attempts to maintain our dignity online and our publishing contracts.

So it sounds like he knew he was gay but thought he could just suppress it and live a lie? r24 nails it.

He looks quite a bit like Buck Angel.

r20 I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. I don't believe in the virgin birth. I don't believe He was the son of God, I don't believe He died and rose three days later. I don't believe that He is coming back. In short, I don't fall for the things that one must fall for in order to be a Christian yet, at the same time, I love the Catholic Church. I love the pageantry, the rituals, the sights, the words, the fellowship. My priest is a very engaging person and he says many interesting things during the Mass. I've talked to the priest about this and he called me a cafeteria Catholic since I pick and choose which aspects of the faith appeal to me and reject the ones that do not. This is why I consider myself to be Catholic yet not a Christian.

this guy is off to Episcopalians soon. And why isn't R63?

Religion is a scam. It's all a lie. You have to be a gullible idiot to be "religious" and actually believe all that magical thinking nonsense.

The poster upthread isn't the first I've heard differentiate between catholics and christians. It's odd. It's mostly Americans I've heard do that. I presume it's because of WASP domination.

At least he didn't kill his wife and children.

I think he's attractive looking. Has he written awful anti-gay... pamphlets?

R7, that's drugs. It has to be drugs.

It looks like mostly children's books.

The Catholics aren't Christian thing is a largely UD Protestant view. Not all Protestants but many. Pope and Mary statue worshipping pagans and all that. This guy is the first Catholic I've seen use it, but he has his own twist. He's making it all up on his own with little knowledge of the history of anti-Catholic bigotry in America, R66

R66, it's the Evangelicals who don't think Roman Catholics are Christians. If you think Episcopalians and Methodists even give a shit... Well, they don't.

I don't know much about him or his books, but it sounds like although he raised in a conservative, fundamentalist churches, he changed course and became more progressive and gay-friendly.

[quote] In his book, "Fear No Evil," Turner describes growing up in a conservative Independent Fundamental Baptist Church where he said his belief in God was rooted in fear of damnation — he was taught musical syncopation was sinful and said he didn’t set foot in a movie theater until age 19. He writes that his faith evolved over the years, and eventually Turner launched a blog called “Jesus Needs New PR” and became a part of more progressive Christian circles.

[quote] "Though my own faith evolved long ago to become LGBTQ+ affirming, my journey toward recognizing, accepting and embracing myself took much longer," Turner wrote in his post.

[quote] His now progressive faith is reflected in his children’s books — which emphasize God’s radical, inclusive love — as well as his other writings. Turner said he would continue to write children's books with the support of his publisher.

Can you imagine what the reaction to wife would be if she was anything but super supportive?

She'd be crucified!

Where are the nudes?

Maybe she's on drugs that enable her to be supportive of her gay husband.

Ditch both beards and get a hot tub.

get a to catfish him.

Hes got MAYBE 5 years of desirability left , then he gets to experience the real gay life of aging out and becoming completely invisible . He'll be a novelty at first but that will quickly fade . Unless hes got a big dick of course,then hes good to go .

[Quote] then he gets to experience the real gay life of aging out and becoming completely invisible.

Welcome to womanhood.

[quote][R33] You're so simple-minded. Maybe he was thinking about men when he slept with his wife? Maybe he used erectile aides? Maybe both? It's ridiculous of you to pretend to know how he did it.

This guy was married to this woman for 17 years and they had 3 kids. Judging by a super quick look at their lives it seems they were a happy couple which probably means she was satisfied to a point. Did he take Viagra everytime they had sex? It's possible, although I doubt it. It's obviously possible they had a deal from the start and she knew all along and they really didn't have sex besides those three times, if even then. But if they had a sort of happy marriage with regular sex (and without Viagra) I'd say he's bi.

I say this as a Kinsey 5 guy who had sex with girls in my teens and probably now decades later could still do it, although honestly I don't want to because men just attract me like ten times more. I've had Kinsey 6 friends who practically throw up if they even think about having to deal with a vagina. That's the difference a bisexual and a gay man. Since I lead a gay life I rarely tell anyone I'm bi but in reality I am bi. We all know how badly bisexuals are treated in the gay community, and some of them can certainly blame themselves, but there's hate towards bi's that is in many ways totally irrational.

[quote]If he were bi, he'd just say so, as men tend to downplay their homosexuality. Gay men often come out as bi, and bi men like to pretend they're straight.

That is probably true in many cases and could be in this one as well. I'm just saying that if he had regular sex with a woman for two decades he doesn't exactly sound like a reincarnated Liberace.

[quote] So when guys jerk off they aren't straight or gay, they're handsexual. *eyeroll*

Oh please. Keep rolling those eyes, I won't even bother.

[quote]I know some people just MUST believe that there just HAS to be emotional attachment, but he was honestly just sticking his dick in something because that's what he felt he had to do.

You don't have to have emotional attachment with the person you have sex with but men who have sex with other people tend to not get it up if they are not aroused. There are many bi men saying they are gay because it's just simpler that way, myself included.

The ability to perform sexually does not tell your someone's sexuality. Sexuality involves desire. People can arouse themselves by what goes on in their head. The other person present may not contribute to that arousal.

*does not tell you

R82, sorry, I'm not buying it. Especially with guys who have sex with people they supposedly aren't attracted to for decades. It sounds like some people are desperately trying to explain that yes, gay men can easily have sex with women because why not.

Young guys at peak virility can do it.

[Quote] Especially with guys who have sex with people they supposedly aren't attracted to for decades. It sounds like some people are desperately trying to explain that yes, gay men can easily have sex with women because why not.

It sounds like you're in desperate need to protect "gay" from... pollution. And as if you know how often any couple who've been together decades fuck...

I’m not buying this whole “it’s unfair to the wife” nonsense some people have posted. At some level, these woman have to know that the man they are in relation with is different. I think some women are ok with this (probably unconsciously) because of previous sexual demands or abuse from men, making the prospect of marrying someone who will not put sexual demands on them appealing.

I absolutely know this is not the case for everyone; but this dynamic does apply to some.

^^^ You rang

[quote] It sounds like you're in desperate need to protect "gay" from... pollution. And as if you know how often any couple who've been together decades fuck...

Well, I guess in a world where men can have vaginas and women can have cock and balls it's totally normal that gay men want to have sex with women and lesbians with men. Or we can just call them bisexuals.

It's common sense to assume that if a man stays with a woman for 16 years and has kids with her before revealing he's into men that they've had sex regularly. If he gets aroused by her enough to have sex with her then he's bi. Sure their religious backgrounds played probably a huge part but it would've been total hell for him to pretend to enjoy sex if he wasn't into it in the least. I'm just being logical here and assume he probably enjoyed sex with her enough to play the happy hubby part.

She could've been the VERY FIRST person he'd ever been sexual with, so he might've thought he was straight. I always side-eye guys who marry their very first girlfriend, never having been with anyone else. I know a guy who married a woman who he started dating in the 8th grade!!! I don't find it romantic. I find it "suspicious".

[Quote] it would've been total hell for him to pretend to enjoy sex if he wasn't into it in the least. I'm just being logical here

No, you're not being logical, you're being egocentric. Sex dwindles between lots of couples, gay or straight. Duration of relationship tells you virtually nothing about the regularity of a couple's sex life.

A lot of couples barely have sex once they have kids.

Where is the cat? I swear that's Jackson Galaxy.

[quote] You don't have to have emotional attachment with the person you have sex with but men who have sex with other people tend to not get it up if they are not aroused.

When you're in your twenties you're pretty much hard all the time anyway. Why take a bigger hit to your status/image by saying you're gay if you can just come out as bi? He's gay.

[quote] When you're in your twenties you're pretty much hard all the time anyway.

And yet Kinsey 0 men will not get it up for men and Kinsey 6 men for women. Totally straight guys don't want anything sexual to do with guys and likewise with totally gay men. Now many gay men in reality are Kinsey 4 or 5 but they keep quiet about it because they fully well know how much some people in the community hate bisexuals. I assume this guy's one of them but since I don't know much about him that's just an educated guess based on his family life.

I remember a post here a few years back where a guy said he's totally gay but sometimes has sex with his girlfriends. That's the level of self-delusion some people are going through in their bi hate.

Great that he came out and all. Better late than never. But as a fundamentalist evangelical christian - he will have deeply ingrained serious lifelong mental issues which will be very nasty for him and others around him to deal with. He also ruined the wife and children's lives by lying about being gay and pursuing a pretend straight lifestyle even though he always knew he was gay.

Like someone else posted above - wonder what he's said about and done to gays in the name of his fundamentalist evangelical christian religion over the decades while living his pretend straight lifestyle and getting his arse fucked for years late at night at truck stops...?

He looks like he has a hungry hole.

what about all the church organists?

If this homosexual man, who used and exploited some hapless woman for a normal-appearing life, is looking for sympathy, he can find it somewhere between "shit" and "syphilis" in the dictionary.

What kind of moron tries to "save" a marriage after the partner reveals hes gay?

I reckon you don't need much skill to be a "children's author"

Julie Andrews, David Walliams and Sarah Ferguson are "children's authors"

They tend to keep their organs clean, R98.