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Wolfpack - The strange and bizarre story of the Angulo Brothers

Quarantine made me think of these siblings and their extraordinary story. They were quite socialized for children who were imprisoned in their home for so many years. The mother reminds me of Greta Nussbaum. Was the father ever charged with a crime? Do the brothers lead normal lives today?

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by Anonymousreply 3408/25/2020

Where can I find the documentary?

by Anonymousreply 107/22/2020

R1 The OP has provided the nearly one hour 20/20 episode in the initial post ...

by Anonymousreply 207/22/2020

R1, can I borrow some money?

by Anonymousreply 307/22/2020

Hedda Nussbaum?

by Anonymousreply 407/22/2020

You cannot look away. This story is as fascinating as it is creepy. I wonder if experts have analyzed them. I can't wait until the Director does a follow-up with them all 10 years from now.

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by Anonymousreply 507/25/2020

It was an excellent documentary. I applaud their playfulness, I wonder what kind of abuse they suffered (beyond isolation and instilled distrust and lack of encouragement toward friendships), and I despise that father.

by Anonymousreply 607/25/2020

The parents should be jailed.

by Anonymousreply 707/25/2020

a grift.

by Anonymousreply 807/25/2020

these dudes are clones, right?

by Anonymousreply 907/25/2020

They're brothers. 2 of them are twins.

I seriously want their 4 bedroom, 2 bath, Lower East Side apartment. It has potential.

by Anonymousreply 1007/25/2020

What strikes me is how innocent and pure they all are. Most people usually lose this quality by around 11 or 12.

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by Anonymousreply 1107/31/2020

I remember this documentary. Fascinating and disturbing.

by Anonymousreply 1207/31/2020

I wonder what it's like for them to finally come out of isolation, only to be forced back into isolation because of coronavirus. Scientists could learn so much from them. Children who are isolated typically are only children so are likely to be non verbal by the time they are discovered. Here you have a case of very verbal siblings; because there were so many brothers, they learned their socialization skills from each other.

The parents should be held accountable for what they did, but they managed to raise 6 quality boy, which is nearly impossible in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 1308/15/2020

I watched the documentary and the 20/20 follow-up. Fascinating stuff. I kept thinking, how the hell did they afford to live in that huge apartment on government assistance? Nobody worked. One of the best parts of the follow-up was when DeNiro walked in on them and they were able to talk to him and ask questions. OP, I saw this years ago; I need to revisit it. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 1408/15/2020

R14, do you have a link to the DeNiro meeting?

by Anonymousreply 1508/16/2020

R15 It was part of the 20/20 follow-up. . DeNiro comes in at the about the 50 minute mark.

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by Anonymousreply 1608/16/2020

Beautiful & Feral.

by Anonymousreply 1708/16/2020

I loved watching them shop The Criterion Collection . Joyful and charming! The only "haul" videos I can stand.

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by Anonymousreply 1808/16/2020

They truly act like they have won the lottery when they are told they can keep the sweet.

I hope they have a support system outside of each other and their mother, so the are not harmed emotionally or taken advantage of.

by Anonymousreply 1908/16/2020

They are fortunate that their case didn't turn out like this.

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by Anonymousreply 2008/18/2020

This is old news. Their time has come and gone.

by Anonymousreply 2108/18/2020

R21, not really. In many ways their journey is just beginning. There are so many unanswered questions. I would love to see a follow-up.

by Anonymousreply 2208/18/2020

R21 Absolutely! I want to know where these kids land in their 30s. Will they ever have kids of their own?

by Anonymousreply 2308/18/2020

It's amazing that none of them were left profoundly autistic from the isolation. In fact, I found the older ones to be quite engaging and delightful. One reporter said their behaviour at time appeared feral and their speech patterns have an odd lilt, but I think that's due to the fact they have not learned the cultural norms one does by interacting with society. Supposedly, the boys and the mother are under psychiatric care, and the 3 youngest received special training to help them become more socialized. This is such a fascinating case. Wonder if any scientific papers have been written about them.

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by Anonymousreply 2408/24/2020

There was a sister too, she was mentally disabled. Scared to think what happened to her.

by Anonymousreply 2508/24/2020

Their neighbors knew and didn’t intervene on their behalf? Seriously? 😐

by Anonymousreply 2608/24/2020

Their neighbors knew and didn’t intervene on their behalf? Seriously? 😐

by Anonymousreply 2708/24/2020

The sister is still alive. She doesn't along with her brothers because, as you said, she's handicapped and can't consent to appearing on film.

by Anonymousreply 2808/24/2020

From the glimpses I've seen of her, the sister appears to be well taken care of and happy. The brothers mention she sometimes participates in their movie recreations. They all seem devoted to the mother. They have said they don't want her to get in any trouble. Most still live in the apartment.

I wonder if they process visuals differently. Imagine rarely being outside so you can look past the vast horizon or perceive objects in relation to open space. Their perspectives must be so out of whack, like if you or I walked out the door and everything turned into cartoon figures. One brother said he's afraid he'll never be able to adapt to the outside world. The youngest refuse to watch the documentary.

Govinda, has amazing skin. He has no visible creases where his laugh lines should be. It's absolutely incredible. Here is the middle brother delivering a Ted Talk. This is a story about survival and triumph. This gives us all hope we'll make it though the pandemic.

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by Anonymousreply 2908/24/2020

They must have brittle bones from the lack of sunshine; vitamin D.

by Anonymousreply 3008/25/2020

[Quote]Their neighbors knew and didn’t intervene on their behalf? Seriously? 😐

The father made any room (including one of the bathrooms) that had adjoining walls to other apartments off limits to them, so that the neighbors couldn't hear what was going on inside. He placed a ladder in front of the door so he would hear if the wife or children tried to leave. He also did all the grocery shopping. Some of the neighbors said they had no idea there were children living in the apartment.

Those home movies of when they were little, covered in face paint are creepy beyond fuck. I think there's more to the story that has yet to be told.

by Anonymousreply 3108/25/2020

I don't find it creepy. And the way they are today, apparently so stable, I doubt that they went through a sadistic upbringing or something like that.

by Anonymousreply 3208/25/2020

Father a paranoid schizophrenic.

by Anonymousreply 3308/25/2020

[Quote]I don't find it creepy. And the way they are today, apparently so stable, I doubt that they went through a sadistic upbringing or something like that.

You're probably right, but there are so many unanswered questions; like how did they, as welfare recipients, fly under the radar of Social Services? Wouldn't they have to check periodically to verify the number of children in the household? How did they do their laundry? What happened when there was a problem in the apartment or management wanted to repaint?

I do agree the mother raised some quality children, a great contrast to the jaded, privileged brats we typically see.

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