Movies That Would Never Be Made Today

there is no wife in that movie.........at all..........

“I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry”

Blazing Saddles

"From another post, 24th Day (2004) is all about a guy that that gets HIV, played by two straight actors. If it was made today, it’d be considered stigmatizing to people living with HIV (because the wife kills herself when she finds out she has it), and they didn’t hire gay actors.

I’m wondering how many other screenplays never make it to a director because of today’s polarizing culture."

WOW. Talk about a false equivalency.

And as someone else pointed out, you've never even seen the movie.

You can't be a troll, AND be stupid...

Oh, no, wait, YOU totally can.

What an accomplishment!

Bruno, It's Pat!, White Chicks

His wife is shown in flashbacks and shot through a red light and dies in the hospital.

R4 I did watch it, not stupid or troll. When is the last time HIV or bisexuals were the subject or plot of a movie? It makes me think there are a lot of hot topics avoided and why we only see bland superhero movies.

There’s plenty to be offended about considering GMHC, HIV cocktails and people living with HIV and their advocates- all existed in 2004.

It’s not about the movie itself which was just ok, but the blind outrage movies like it- cause Hollywood to censor what they produce in 2020, whereas it was fine to release in 2004.

THE 24TH DAY is one of my favourite guilty-pleasure movies. It’s a clunky shaky gunshy adaptation of a middling play that dated as soon as it opened (see point above) and fell quickly into obscurity. It’s unclear why it was adapted for screen at all; one supposes the money draw was getting to see stunning James Marsden tied up and sweaty and begging a gay(?) guy for mercy.

That being said, I still find it atmospheric and entertaining on its own merits. It has that suffocating intimate feel particular to sexual thrillers & dramas from the early-mid ‘00s, and the snappy dialogue holds interest. Marsden & Speedman have quite a charged chemistry and pull off their roles without too much caricature or ‘gayface’. There’s some fun to be had in watching too beefcake actors alternately flirt and snipe at each other in a Cat & mouse way, though admittedly it barely passes for art.

OP is right in the sense that characters like theirs I.e., promiscuous, morally-compromised bisexuals don’t appear much in film & television anymore, which is probably a positive for political purposes but a drawback for dramatic art. Personally I always took the plot point in this movie about HIV/AIDS as a mere allegorical device by which the film overreaches itself grappling with concept of moral absolutism.

It’s just too bad we’ll never get a love/sex scene with actual kissing and touching between the two leads. That was the one chance and we blew it.

OP here- R9 thank you, It’s early so my original post was rather clunky as well.

I agree dramatic art, comedy and theater are all in danger nowadays because of culture wars, social media influence and the elusive “ideal” of diversity representation. Even Jerry Seinfeld has commented about this and it doesn’t bode well for the future of storytelling.

The Silence of the Lambs. It would be deemed transphobic.

Cannibal Holocaust

The animal rights activists would demand the heads of everyone involved on a spike for the onscreen animal killings. Also, Green Inferno (which is a more modern Cannibal Holocaust ripoff) got it's share of criticism for racism against indigenous people in the Amazon, so this film would definitely get the same treatment.

Birth of a Nation

Call Me By Your Name!

Prey on Me By Your Name is more like it!

the red screen woman was not his wife........

Nobody's Perfect starring DL fave Chad Lowe.

“ Tom's wife is found to be HIV positive. Despondent after receiving this diagnosis from her doctor, she drives through a red traffic light and is killed in an ensuing collision. ” Source Wiki

Sweet Movie - a great movie from the 70's that I just watched a few weeks ago - would offend pretty much everyone I think. Even I thought that two scenes were pretty disgusting - when the lead actress tries to seduce boys obviously underage and when some crazy members of an Austrian hippie commune rub another member with piss and shit and do other shitty stuff. The holocaust scenes did not faze me much, but that was probably the point of the movie.

not his wife.............not, not I say.......

signed, James Marsden......

Revenge of the Nerds (1984)

MYRA BRECKINRIDGE.

Even a faithful adaptation of Gore Vidal's novel would cause the trans 'community' to collectively have the fantods.

Since we’re discussing Marsden, I think quite a few entries in his filmography would not fly today.

Especially SEX DRIVE (2008), for the language alone. One 30-second line of dialogue includes: “Don’t be such a fag!”/“Are you queer?”/“if someone asks if you’re a polesmoker, you just deny it straight off”/“which do you like better, the shaft or the balls?” (followed by a graphic description of an erect cock). This was a teen comedy about a virgin, for the record, and James was incredibly funny in it (there’s a twist to his phobic character in the end).

Basic Instinct. A bisexual serial killer? No way that would fly in 2020.

De Palma's Dressed to Kill and Body Double would never get made today.

Pretty Baby and Transamerica.

Soul Man

The Little Girl Who Lives by the Lane

Pretty Baby

Secretary

^^Down the Lane^^

Call me by my name is pervy sure but also dumb. i hated the dad had a gay lover ending as well. More pervy daddy porny bullshit. I’m glad to aee more & more DL’s are turning on it.

Not aee but see. Who let that bitch Nell out?

R23 It caused in uproar when it was released. There's a great documentary on the DVD that I have (the one with the icepick pen, I'm not sure if it's included in other editions) about the controversy that's a fascinating time capsule of attitudes of the era.

Also down homo lines brokeback mnt can go & it’s gay suffering bullshit. Hopefully it was the last of it’s kind. (At least call me let the gays live)

R23 R30 with the elder status of michael douglas i think none of those heavy breather white hetro victim pics will be made anymore. I think he was the last in the line

Soul Man for sure

Cloud Atlas

Any of the 80s raunchy comedies like Porkys and Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

R8, no one is "outraged" over the movie because no one saw it. Funny that people think others are getting bent of shape over these tiny indies that weren't released by major studios and have an audience of 12 people

r11, it was seen as homophobic at the time and gay activists protested it

Gay activists also protested Basic Instinct

Some of you have short memories

OP there are still tons of straight actors playing gay characters

I don't know what world some of you are living in

Ace Ventura

Blue Lagoon with Atkins and Brooke.

ZEROPHILIA (2005). The Ts would go off their nut.

Laconic: two teens with the mutant ability to ‘shapeshift’ between a male & female version of themselves fuck in all the various combinations.

The Graduate.

A world without blue lagoon. Oh my.

R37 some of us had lives

Pretty Baby

Do you think Hollywood Shuffle would still get made today, even though it’s a satire and its entire point is antiracist?

Dressed To Kill.

Cool Hand Luke was what should’ve been a nearly all-black cast set in the deep south about life on a chain gang and the eventual escape, which is doomed to failure. But it was made with an all-white cast, pretty boy Paul Newman for box office, and George Kennedy with a terrible southern accent. Might’ve really had some significance with black actors.

Gone with the Wind.

"Oh Mammy you are such a devoted black servant!"

"I'm your goddamned slave, white girl."

"The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane" (1976)- A 13-yr. old who lives alone, kills people, has a sexual relationship with a teen boy. Martin Sheen plays a nutty pedophile.

Today, a child would be on their parent's payroll til age 40.

That's actually not at all the relationship between Scarlett and Mammy, in either the novel or the film. Yes, at the beginning Scarlett is the white mistress and Mammy is supposedly the slave, but their relationship is much more complicated and nuanced than that. At the end, Mammy turns out, along with Melanie, to have been the most honest and honorable of them all.

That's actually not at all the relationship between Scarlett and Mammy, in either the novel or the film. Yes, at the beginning Scarlett is the white mistress and Mammy is supposedly the slave, but their relationship is much more complicated and nuanced than that. At the end, Mammy turns out, along with Melanie, to have been the most honest and honorable of them all.

Jean Jacques Annaud's The Lover. It’s about a 16 year old French girl who has a love affair with a thirty-something Chinese businessman. LOTS of very graphic sex scenes. When it came out, it was considered very sexy. Now, I imagine people would find it icky.

[quote]Today, a child would be on their parent's payroll til age 40.

Well, the cost of living is astronomical compared to back then, and salaries haven't kept up.

Grease (with its current ending). There would be too much backlash for a woman completely changing who she is for a man.

The Bad News Bears

Gentleman Prefer Blondes (too anti brunette & redhead & sexist)

How To Marry A Millionaire (suggests women need/want a handbook to become conniving gold-digging leaches)

THE MIGHTY DUCKS (1992).

Middle-aged alcoholic defense lawyer sleaze forced to coach peewee hockey team of poor inner-city kids in a very rundown neighbourhood of Minnesota as part of community service. He teaches his fledglings to play garbage hockey using dirty tactics, and encourages them to commit petty crimes and cuss out adult authority figures and damage property. He also bangs the mom of one of the kids.

Bamboozled. Even though a black man made it, I feel people would still object to the blackface in it.

The Exorcist

Psycho

A Clockwork Orange

Badlands--a 15 year old girl starts dating a 25 year old man who starts killing people impulsively.

Taxi Driver. Nobody would let an underage girl play a hooker like how Jodi did. Not to mention all the epithets in the movie.

Marnie. A man raping a woman to tame her--yeah, that will go over real well.

"The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane" even has a nude scene of Jodie's young character. The stunt double used in the scene was actually Jodie's sister. It's just shocking that the director thought it was appropriate to show a pre-teen girl nude.

It's no wonder that Jodie hates the movie and refuses to talk about it.

It was also Alexis Smith's only movie.

Oh shit, I just remembered that movie with Brook Shields, I think it owns this thread--Pretty Baby was the name, I think?

MANDINGO!

[quote] It was also Alexis Smith's only movie.

Do you know anything about film history?

They also used Jodie's sister as a body double for the slow dance scene with Harvey Keitel in Taxi Driver. I hope her sister got paid really well for getting to do wee Jodie's more traumatic scenes.

The opening scene of the original Carrie.

I know all the actresses were of age. But now locker room full of naked high school girls is just plain creepy.

The Professional with 12 yo Natalie Portman as sexy and alluring. Beautiful Girls with 14 yo Natalie Portman as this desirable dream girl to guys who are 30

Brook Shields wins...she was 13 when she did this movie.

Can you imagine Pretty Baby being made today? People would be having meltdowns. No way it could happen.

R72, hell no. And what really perplexes me is that Brooke Shield's mom clearly pimped her out for whatever she could get...but even pimps have their limits!

Looking for Mr. Goodbar

Cruising

White Dog

Gone With the Wind

Alexis Smiths only movie?

Cruising

Larry Kramer’s movies, like Bully, Kids, and Teenage Caveman.

And, The Warriors (1979).

[quote] Cruising

Along with Dressed to Kill, this was so controversial when it came out and it would be create even more of an uproar today.

Exactly r38. I mean, Tom Hanks won his first academy award dying of HIV with Banderas as his partner in Philadelphia.

My Own Private Idaho.

West Side Story.

Upwardly Mobile Latinx just doesn't have the same pizzazz.

Tootsie.

I have no problem with straight actors playing gay characters because no one could've played Patrick Brewer better than Noah Reid on "Schitt's Creek." I only oppose PERFORMANCES by straight actors in which they play it as a stereotype in an offensive way.

[quote] Bamboozled. Even though a black man made it, I feel people would still object to the blackface in it.

Still, the flat out ballsiest movie Spike Lee has ever made.

[quote] Larry Kramer’s movies, like Bully, Kids, and Teenage Caveman.

I think you mean Larry Clark. Though I’d certainly be interested in seeing Larry Kramer's take on Teenage Caveman.

[quote] Alexis Smiths only movie?

Yes. As every DLer knows, Smith's career consists almost entirely of doing Follies in our memories for the last 49 years.

3 Women and actually everything Altman made for the major studios. No way today.

Larry Kramer produced and wrote the musical version of Lost Horizon, one of the worst films ever made.

I never miss a Liv Ullman musical.

I did too.

What were they thinking to cast Liv Ullman in a musical?

Didn’t they once hear her before opening?

R88 Liv Ullman asked the same question.

Every single Western produced before Brokeback Mountain

Kind Hearts And Coronets

I Was A Male War Bride

Some Like It Hot

Victor / Victoria

Nuns On The Run

Mrs. Doubtfire

etc, etc

Thank God that I Remember Mama, Richard Rodgers' last show, was recorded with most of the original cast a few years later but with the lovely Sally Ann Howes replacing the execrable Ullman.

The Human Stain where Anthony Hopkins of all people plays a black man.

Anthony Hopkins did blackface?!?! Oh, i weep, I weep!

Porky's and the sequels.

Pretty Woman

Not to mention the racism of the Travis character in Taxi driver would be taken very literally as "the actor, director, writer, extras, and all their families are racists". Any movies with ambiguity or nuance would not make it.

R97, yes, that's what I meant when I said the epithets used by the characters would not be allowed today. It would be depicted as Scorsese being racist when it's really a portrayal of the character Travis being twisted and racist.

Any of the beloved John Hughes’ teen movies, especially the Ringwald Cycle.

This not to say Hughes’ oeuvre isn’t eminently awful and shouldn’t be deservedly forgotten, anyway. Personally I dislike the majority of these movies, and think them crass vacuous popcorn overhyped by nostalgia. But to cancel them due to minor infractions of context-dependent poor taste (mostly used for comedy) is a little much.

Let’s examine the evidence..

SIXTEEN CANDLES? Virgin-shaming and rape-as-conquest, hypersexualisation of underage girls, date rape-as-comedy (and other #METOO-unfriendly moments), Yellowface racist caricature...

THE BREAKFAST CLUB? Exclusively white kids, gay slurs thrown around, forced noncon sexual contact, mental illness and self-harm presented as a fun character quirk, ‘pretty privilege’ message..

PRETTY IN PINK? Hypercapitalist mentality, unchecked white privilege, normalisation of stalking, anti-feminist propaganda (i.e. daughters as replacement wives, women obligated to date male friends, girls are naturally always feminine and pink-loving)

ST. ELMO’S FIRE? Virgin-shaming (again), unchecked white privileged (again), hypercapitalist mentality (again), gay slurs thrown around (again), anti-feminist propaganda (again), pretty privilege’ message (again)...

If introduced today, the sleazy bullying prepster lothario character played James Spader in PRETTY IN PINK alone would send Gen Z into frothing apoplectic fits of Angry Typing; he’s so -problematic-! (and a little too sexy and dangerous for the kids).

All of the Hughes movies would be considered offensive due to the all white casts (save for the Asian caricature)

[quote]Not to mention the racism of the Travis character in Taxi driver would be taken very literally as "the actor, director, writer, extras, and all their families are racists". Any movies with ambiguity or nuance would not make it.

You have absolutely nailed what is wrong with society today when it comes to entertainment. Everybody has seemed to forget that these are people telling stories, it's not what they personally believe.

[quote]All of the Hughes movies would be considered offensive due to the all white casts (save for the Asian caricature)

His movies are already considered offensive in this day and age because of the all-white casts. I assume it's from people who are too young to have been around in the 80s. Back then, it was pretty common for an entire middle-class or esp. an upper middle-class neighborhood to be 99.9% white. I know, I grew up in one. My town and my high school was literally 99% white, as were many other towns and schools. It was pretty common back in that era.

Jackson County Jail (with a young and handsome Tommy Lee Jones)

R101, That's why there are very few great Hollywood movies these days. And the crap that's supposed to be good--overrated movies like "Us", "Crash", etc.--is pandering crap. It's like these directors are so afraid of taking risks, they just pander to audiences to be cool.

Soap Dish. The T army would be out in full fucking force. Trixie and Katya (who have both embraced the T propaganda to a degree of total embarrassment ) were talking recently how it is such a great movie (eh), but it needs to be remade because the ending is completely unacceptable. What fucking ever.

Pret-a-Porter, the Robert Altman film that included Danny Aiello dressed as a woman.

R99 I'm relieved to hear someone else refer to them as awful. I could never understand the critical acclaim for his films. I found them all so meh.

R105 i never understood the great love of that movie. All praise & diva worship to sally field it just seems to be one of those solidly two star rated movie from sometime back then. I even forgot the tranny subplot.

R93 While it might be canceled they did cast the genuinely mixed Wentworth Miller as the young Hopkins. I wonder if Hopkins casting would be considered a grey area because the character is supposed to look "white " despite his heritage.

R93 The biggest mistake in that film was casting Nicole Kidman as a working class janitor. She was terrible and didn't fit the role at all.

Naomi Watts would have been much better as the working class janitor, she is actually believable as a lower class person as she was in Mulholland Drive.

R104, plenty of directors take risks, but those movies are mostly ignored in favor of comic book movies

R100, tons of movies still have mostly white casts

I guess Republicans will look for anything to complain about

Kidman is miscast in 85% of the shit she does

Return of the Jedi: a nearly naked Princess Leia chained to Jabba the Hutt as his pseudo-sex slave would be unacceptable today. That whole part of the film would have to be rewritten.

[quote]Everybody has seemed to forget that these are people telling stories, it's not what they personally believe.

This is the unfortunate result of social media tribalism & generational narcissism.

Agreed, r115. There is no critical thinking anymore.

Tootsie. How dare Dustin Hoffman parade around in women's clothing unless he's willing to get breast implants and have his dick chopped off!!!

R117 - He can always have his "feminine penis"

If Tootsie were made today, Laverne Cox would be the star lol!

A Clockwork Orange

Salon Kitty

The Night Porter

Little Girl Who Lived Down the Lane.

All of those teen comedies from the 1970s & 1980s.

Airplane.

The little girl saying " I like it black, like my men" about her coffee. No fucking way.

R123, that's just the tip of the iceberg with Airplane lol.

R123 Ever been in a Turkish prison?

R12 And rightfully so.

Airplane is STILL fucking hilarious.

But it's never mean-spirited or cruel. It's just fucking funny.

"Stewardess, I speak jive."

Dogfight, the movie with River Phoenix and Lili Taylor to see which guy can pick up the ugliest girl.

[quote]Larry Kramer’s movies, like Bully, Kids, and Teenage Caveman.

Hey, what about me?

The Jonson Story owns this thread. Black face and all.

Drop Dead Gorgeous, one of the funniest movies ever made, would be too offensive in so many different ways today. Which is a shame.

[quote]MYRA BRECKINRIDGE. Even a faithful adaptation of Gore Vidal's novel would cause the trans 'community' to collectively have the fantods.

The movie was hated in its day simply for the subject matter and because it barely makes a lick of sense. Now it would be hated because Raquel Welch is actually a woman.

How about a few recent movies? Dallas Buyers club probably would not be made the same way that it was a couple of years ago, and even then there was a fair amount of criticism. I doubt they would have went with the narrative of the protagonist being a 100 percent straight man and they would not have cast Jared Leto as the transwoman character.

The Gift (2015) with Joel Edgerton probably would have caused a huge outcry today because of using a possible implied sex assault of a female character as a way to punish a male character. Though it's not entirely clear if it happened .

I concur with "Airplane" - I'm sitting here thinking, and I'm SHOCKED!

"Airplane" is hysterical, one of the greatest comedies ever.

The Crying Game

The Crying Game could be made but they'd demand a trans actor for that role.

Sixteen Candles

R137: No one is going to change their sex just for a single film role.

Endless Love. That mother hiding on the staircase watching her daughter lose her virginity.

R139 - FFS. Someone who is ALREADY transgender.

Black Like Me...True 1964 movie about a journalist who ingested some chemical to darken his skin so he could pass as black and report on segregation in the South.

Watermellon Man - hilarious comedy about a white guy who slowly starts turning black for whatever bs medical reason it was - Godfrey Cambridge in the title role and Estelle Parsons as his wife - 1970 - funny shit!

Ace Ventura: Pet Detective

R142 I remember that, and it freaked me the fuck out.

TCM should show that movie and ask me to host.

It's weird how so many somewhat modern films like Dallas Buyers Club couldn't even be made the same way now.

Don't Look Now's most famous scene where the parents have sex wouldn't even be in the film unless it was remade for HBO or Netflix or something. For a mainstream studio release, it'd be cut out completely. This country is so scared of sex and nudity.

As we just found out this week, Kindergarten Cop is now considered cop propaganda, so you can add that one to the list as the world continues to lose its mind.