Terry Crews leads call to ‘defund Pornhub’

Christ he seems like an idiot. He’s destroyed all goodwill - especially with black people - in such a short period of time it’s almost impressive

He’s loved by many people of all colors. I agree with him on limiting porn.

It's up to the parents to police what their spawn accesses on the internet.

Having said that I can't imagine it is good in any respect that children can access porn so easily and I know it is a big ask but parental responsibility please.

Or we can make it that even if they aren’t with mom and dad it’s HARD for them to access it.

He's right.

Well that’s why they access it — because it’s HARD.

He’s correct. Porn is corrosive and soul-destroying

I thought there are parental locks for Computers and smartphones? I am sorry, but if kids do illegal shit and bypass parental locks on their gadgets then that's a FAMILY issue not a BURN ALL THE FORBIDDEN STUFF DOWN! issue.

No one is saying burn it all down. Leave it there but there doesn’t need to be as much porn as there is now, and it doesn’t need to be easily accessible

Fuck him and his defenders in this thread who are obviously fragile white people.

R8 Many porn sites purchase domains that are similar (misspelled by a letter or two) to popular children’s gaming or learning sites, it’s absolutely disgusting. I don’t understand why they do it, what is even the point in getting traffic that way? Parents can only do so much.

A better approach is for porn to be part of the sex education curriculum. All the parents I know are fully aware their kids are looking at porn but never discuss it with them. Schools need to play their part as well.

18 year olds??? God, Americans are so fucking weird. If he said 13 year olds I would kinda agree..but 18. At least he didn't say 21

The real issue is that guys like Terry don't want to engage in an open dialogue with their kids about the subject matter: Sex. Kids see their surroundings with wide open eyes and have all these questions about how this or that works. But the adults are, in a lot of ways understandably, busy with their own lives (like, earning a living for themselves and their kids) and quite frankly don't have the time and energy to be good parents.

That wouldn't be much of on issue IF schools would have the leeway to actually answer the kids' questions truthfully in a way that benefts them in life. But thanks to conservative parents with their hang ups about sex demand certain topics to be strictly off limits and that doesn't help the kids with their questions how this world, we adults created, works.

Close all parks because kids might sneak in and get hurt on the slide!!!!!

R12 no. We should not normalize or act like it’s fine for CHILDREN to be looking at that stuff. Period.

All this free porn everywhere. Remember how, prior to about 2012, watching high-quality porn on the Internet used to cost money?

Remember: If something on the Internet is free, you’re the product.

Why would anyone on DATALOUNGE co-opt this? Every other thread is about gay porn.

We’ve been so infiltrated it’s not even funny.

R17

You’re so clueless lol

Defund just the straight porn.

Terry Crews is a brilliant guy. I’ve liked him since he played “Damon” on “Friday After Next”.

[quote] No one is saying burn it all down. Leave it there but there doesn’t need to be as much porn as there is now, and it doesn’t need to be easily accessible

And who decides what is allowed to stay and what has to go, you? Why is censorship and limitations always supposed to be the answer for the problem caused by too much, too much options, too much access, or too much variety?

Even in the US people openly discussed the option of "do not say gay" in school and lock out non-porn gay websites, helping those struggling with their sexuality. And what is used as an excuse to go there? Porn. Always.

His fragile white defenders know how fucking offensive this is to most black people, that’s why they’re going along with this.

Lmao because only black people watch porn?! Give me a break.

R16, why do you think discussing something is endorsing or normalising it? Are you suggesting schools shouldn't be discussing alcohol abuse, shoplifting, drugs, gangs, or gun violence either?

Aren't there more important things to worry about than porn?

He's going to publicly come out as a conservative any day now. I wouldn't be surprised to learn he's a Trump supporter.

He's really turned into an asshole.

R24

He’s completely oblivious to the biggest black justice movement in decades, and is shifting the conversation to “evil porn”. You know how fucking offensive this is so stop playing stupid.

What did Terry Crews do to make white SJWs and black twitter mad at him? Acknowledge that black supremacy exists!? Nick Cannon showed his ass on that topic days ago. It exists. Periodt!!!

R18, see r7.

People immersed in porn know it’s downsides very well.

I spend far too much time looking for hot porn. I feel better when I skip it. But I usually don’t. It’s a quick and easy way to release sexual energy as well as anxiety. But that doesn’t mean it’s healthy. When I was 14, I think I might have lived for it.

R30

Porn is one of the best conversations on this forum. You know very well how dangerous your bullshit is. They are coming for our porn and you’re defending it. Fuck you

R21 , r29 and Terry are both dumb shits.

[quote]It’s a quick and easy way to release sexual energy as well as anxiety.

And that's a problem? Why?

I’ve struggled with porn addiction also, and my friends are trying to help me overcome it. It’s very toxic and warps how one views and thinks about others. I feel so much better without it in my Life. Clean living is good

R29 he keeps conflating BLM with “black superiority”

[quote]We should not normalize or act like it’s fine for CHILDREN to be looking at that stuff. Period.

It's been normal for boys to look at nudie mags since at least the 1970s if not earlier. We're on our third generation of teens who grew up with porn on the internet -- it wasn't as prevalent in the 1990s but there was enough that sitcoms joked about GenXers still in high school in the mid and late 1990s seeing porn all the time. And they were.

But NOW you're upset? You're a few decades too late, dear.

[quote]It’s a quick and easy way to release sexual energy as well as anxiety. But that doesn’t mean it’s healthy.

It... actually does?

As long as the actors are adults who consent, it's fine. As long as there are easy to use safeguards for families to keep their underaged kids away from porn, it's fine.

R8 Parents today have no back bone. It’s more important for them to be a friend than a parent.

They don’t want to be seen as the bad guy so they would rather say the State/feds need to change this.

I’ve only met one set of decent parents in the last 35 years.

Six years ago a married couple with a 12 year old daughter moved into the rental house beside me.

It’s a three bedroom house and the daughter had her own bathroom, bedroom and media room.

The girl had her own television, Blu-ray player and several dozen movies. She was not allowed to go in to the main living room alone because that television had DIRECTV and her parents wanted to control what she watched.

One day the mother told me they caught the girl in the living room watching television and that was her third time being caught for that offense (she didn’t say what the girl was watching) so they grounded her for 60 days. They took her blu-ray player out of her room.

They told her if she ever went on the Internet without at least one of them in the room with her she would lose her television privileges for one year. (The computer was in the parents bedroom).

I was waiting for the moron that would claim looking at a nude woman in a magazine is the same as hardcore porn.

IT ISNT.

R31 reminds me of myself pulling a bottle of rum out of the garbage to suck down the last drop at the bottom.

R38 yes. Read a parenting advice column.... it’s so depressing. These people have no idea they’re supposed to be in charge.

My take on this is that I wish Terry would do porn.

Yeah, I don't think banning your child from the living room makes one a "decent parent." You learn how to use parental controls on the TV, you don't ban your children from the fucking living room. That's psychotic.

It’s almost impossible to monitor for most families. If the kid has a smart phone, they’ve got access to porn.

And with distance learning, most kids now have tablets or laptops, often provided by school. Porn provides by public education.

And kids are masters at getting around obstacles to gaming, social media, and porn in school devices. They teach one another how to get to what they want.

I'm 32 and growing up I looked at a lot of porn. I don't really watch porn much anymore. I would say from the time I was about 12 up until nearly a decade ago, I pretty much got it out of my system and don't go manically looking for it the way I use to when I was younger.

Eventually you kinda just tire of it. I did. I think everyone is different in that regard. It's not a huge domanite part of my life anymore. Maybe it's because I actually have a life now filled with interesting people and great relationships.

It really just depends on the person I guess.

Setting boundaries don't work when you can't explain why these boundaries are necessary in the first place. And no, "because I said so!" isn't an explanation.

You know what else affects brain development and alters certain things? Concussions from years of playing in the NFL.

Terry should spend more time looking at this issue which appears to hit close to home for him. His increasing impulsive outbursts on random topics is a sign he needs to look at his potential brain damage issues.

He’s worse than Kanye. I can’t believe I’m saying that.

Kids or teens watching porn can cause harm when it's not explained to them that it's just as much a fantasy as regular entertainment.

You really think kids can learn how to be in a healthy relationship or be good at sex when watching porn? Using porn as a template for your own relationship and sex life is as bad as using a few selected, parents approved, passages of the Bible as your guide through modern day life.

Terry is joined in his crusade by his aunt, Laura Hope Crews

He is right, small kids are addicted to porn which causes a problem because they're uncaappable of treating people and women like humans.

Not that I'm defending Terry, but think about how porn has affected the perception on what the average penis size is - especially among Dataloungers, the majority of whom did NOT grow up with Internet porn so easily accessible (or even an option at all)!

Also, didn't the UK try something like this last year? (And the American DLers were all "HA HA, police state!!!")

[quote]8 year olds shouldn’t be watching hardcore porn, period. It has been proven to be bad for their young brain development and alters certain things.

Exactly. Therefore, parents should take much more responsibility for their children and their viewing habits.

Allowing your child to sit and surf the web without any supervision or guidance is irresponsible with so much porn available for consenting adults who choose to view it.

It's terrible that entitled parents think they can simply abdicate responsibility for their children to the internet. It's outrageous.

Frankly, there should be laws that make parents responsible for the safety and well-being of their children...oh wait...

Porn is the least of the worries for parents giving children unlimited access to the internet.

Porn is not something anyone under 16/17 should be watching. The fact some of you are defending this scares me.

I am liberal but there is a point of too far.

[quote] Porn is not something anyone under 16/17 should be watching.

There are a lot of things that should not happen in this world, but they do happen. The only thing one can do is prepare yourself and others, like kids, for the things we all may have to deal with rather sooner than later.

The biggest problems and downfalls are caused by being unprepared or overwhelmed while facing an issue you are unprepared for.

This is one of the things that I hate about parents today. It is mocked on DL frequently and rightfully so with “Will no one think of the children”.

It’s their responsibility to keep their children from seeing pornography not societies responsibility to do away with pornography.

It’s as ridiculous as a parent saying “I don’t want my children using tobacco so the government should come up with a genetically engineered bug/virus to kill off every last tobacco plant on the planet”

The world is not supposed to change just because you had children.

R38 is so over-the-top. Those parents were insane.

I feel sorry for the daughter who can’t even watch the milquetoast on cable.

I would probably run away from those suffocating parents.

Yes r57 especially parents bringing their kids to non-kid-friendly places and then getting mad that it’s not kid friendly. Like the idiots who ruined pride insisting it must be kid friendly.

I’m 27 and have been on the internet since I was a teen. Trust me, porn is the least of the problems. I was abused by predators on the internet. I was bullied and humiliated to the point of being suicidal. Watching porn doesn’t even come close to being one of the biggest problems. These people are just using children, and porn, for their own selfish agenda.

Will Krazee Kanye select him for VP?

r60. what would've helped you to make better choices in life?

NO ONE IS SAYING GET RID OF PORN. JESUS.

Some of you are worse than the Trumptards when it comes to basic comprehension.

R51 "people and women" What The Fuck?

If this is an issue in your family then put parental guards on the kid's phones and computers. Don't try to sanitize my world just because you don't want to do your job as a parent. It reminds of a couple of parents who demanded that certain comics be removed from Borders books because their unattended children were looking at them. Maybe you shouldn't drop your kids off at a bookstore just so you don't have to be bothered with them while you're out shopping.

I feel like 92% of the people in this thread has never seen hardcore porn. It's pretty bad.

R43 and R58 you two seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. The post said the girl was not allowed in the main living room ALONE. It was the same with the computer. She wasn’t allowed to use it alone.

She was allowed to watch two hours a day but one of the parents had to be with her. They encouraged her to watch Jeopardy!.

A couple of times when I was over there visiting the girl surprised me with the number of questions she got right.

NO ONE IS SAYING GET RID OF PORN. JESUS. R65

[quote] She was allowed to watch two hours a day but one of the parents had to be with her. They encouraged her to watch Jeopardy!.

It's a miracle the girl didn't pull a Lizzy Borden and murdered her parents for making her watch a game show on television. Child abuse is real, y'all.

I KNOW THAT, R68! IT'S ONLY BEEN SHOUTED REPEATEDLY! JESUS YOURSELF! YOU JUST WANT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT AVAILABLE AND MAKE IT LESS ACCESSIBLE. AND YOU CAN STILL FUCK RIGHT OFF!

Yeah R69 not letting your kids have access to premium satellite channels is one of the worst forms of child abuse.

Maybe you should start a go fund me page to pay for all the therapy this poor girl will desperately need.

After what they did to Tumblr, how can anyone still condone this attack on porn? I hate people.

Yes. I do want to make it less accessible. If you’re over 18 that shouldn’t be an issue

R74

People like you ruined Tumblr, and trust they’re going to be going after every Tumblr porn replacement. Fuck you

r73, the issue that the issue won't go away when anyone attempts to limit children's access to porn. The kids still find ways to watch porn and are still left on their own making wrong assumptions about sex and relationships.

There is addiction in this thread.

They went after tumblr because a lot of the amateur porn on there involved minors. A lot of those teens jerking off you were watching were actual 15 year olds. Because they can’t monitor all this they got rid of it all.

GOOD.

R75 but it’s harder for them to access it. Right now they can see it like nothing. Make it harder and some would still go the extra mile, others wouldn’t.

The free vids on pornhub has become ultraviolent in the last few years. It’s really frightening that adults brains are being warped by this shit let alone prepubescent kids. Even I couldn’t cum with a partner for a while when I started watching vanilla shit in my 20s because I got so addicted to videos

r73, the solution already exists. Like I said, put parental guards on the systems. If that doesn't work then monitor the kid's usage. If you can't do that then you shouldn't be a parent.

Do parental controls not work? It's my understanding that one can control the type of accessible content to minors via the wifi router, as well as the device in use, itself. Is this not so?

[quote] Make it harder and some would still go the extra mile, others wouldn’t.

Sure Jan. if kids are one thing it's being too lazy when it comes to forbidden fruit.

Just because he can't log out doesn't mean he gets to spoil it for everybody else.

Not to mention that much of the available porn sets out to break new boundaries. Fisting and DPs are commonplace now. What the hell is coming to the mainstream next?

If you don't want to do a parent's job then don't be a parent.

It really doesn't matter what kind of machine based blocks you put on the kid's access.. One smart one will figure out how to get around it and share it. Or, they will go to a friends house or find a neighbor with an open Wifi. I started talking to mine when they were six. Not about porn, but about sex. Porn was right after they were comfortable with the sex part. But I am lucky in that I have time to do that.

He's obviously on the downlow. I definitely think he sleeps with guys.

They don’t teach gay sex so porn is the only way for gay kids to learn. Taking away that would be dangerous.

Yup. Him wanting to make porn less accessible means he is gay. Yup.

R87 that’s the gayest thing I have watched since Wayland Flowers died.

R73 18? What's with Americans and prudish laws? You are allowed to drive a car at 16, but you want to prevent 17 year olds from watching porn?

R89 if you’re too fucking stupid to figure out the reason R87 said he thought Crews might be gay was because of the extremely nelly way he was dancing then you must be straight or even worse a Trumpster.

Shadddup Terry.

R92. I am a person who sees a comedian acting stupid. Like they all do. He wants doing that at a club.

R91 no one is bitching about 17 year olds. We are discussing CHILDREN. Millions of kids under 10 are exposed to hardcore porn all the time now. You have 7 year olds watching anal porn. This is an issue.

Make people pay for it. Just maybe we might better quality. The free stuff is mostly tattooed yucks.

R95 Yeah, but that person said porn shouldn't be available to people under 18. Which is absurd. I agree with protecting children.

Porn wasn't even close to my issue.

Child abusers posing as fellow 12 year olds on chat rooms were my issue.

Porn was downright positive education in an environment where almost no one would likely even bring up the very concept of me potentially being gay for several more years.

Also, again and again, defund the militarized police. Pornhub doesn't get government funding, so Crews is being extra moronic as is OP. Crews is also not talking about 8 year olds, but Internet porn in general. Like a prude. Like OP actually is.

R95

Where are the parents?

R96

Yeah, punish the poor. Fuck you.

^^But all this ragging on parent's from a bunch of gay men is almost humorous. What about the people that don't have the time.to educate their kids? I know, they shouldn't have kids. The majority on this board are going to see raising a family as a picture print from Currier and Ives. It is not. People out there are having to work their asses off to keep the kids fed and sheltered. And guess what? It wasn't planned. You can't tell me that there is no aversion to condoms out there in the gay community. Nobody likes using condoms, especially straight guys. The only difference is they can often walk away from the parental consequences of their actions. That Hep C infection you got will be with you the rest of your life.

Yes, I am a gay man. No, I don't give straight people a pass. But I also don't judge people when I haven't walked a mile in their shoes.

Pornhub can remain free. Just make it where you need to prove you’re of age to access it. Plain and simple.

R98

Same. Without porn, I wouldn’t have learned a thing about gay sex. They don’t teach gay sex.

"Make people pay for porn" - the caliber of posting here. Jesus Christ.

I feel bad for you all who learned about gay sex through porn, because it’s quite unrealistic

R101 giving straight people a pass while saying they're not giving straight people a pass is a risky take, but go ahead.

R105 wasn't for me, it was awesome. Real life was a little messier and difficult, nothing more.

R105

Where did you learn about gay sex? Because there was no teaching of gay sex whatsoever when I was growing up. I had to use porn and the internet.

Terri, Should we cover up the piano legs 🦵 like they did in the 1800’s?

R101, it sure sounds like you're using an edge case to give a pass to straight people who can't be bothered to properly parent their children.

[quote]8 year olds shouldn’t be watching hardcore porn, period.

Dude shut up!

I kind of doubt that Pornhub, which is based in Belgium, really cares about his suggestion. Good luck enforcing that when it comes to an EU-based business. Maybe he can talk to the Manager of the Internet?

I knew what gay sex was. Once you’re old enough you know exactly what gay sex is. I didn’t need to watch porn to know it’s oral and anal.

Ugh, I hate this kind of attitude. Demonising porn is NOT THE ANSWER.

The answer is education (as with most things) and making sure children are aware of the risks of being online, they are aware what porn is, they are aware of what healthy sexual relationships are, and are aware that porn is a fantasy.

Kids will find porn whatever you do, so the MOST important thing is to equip them with the knowledge and awareness to navigate it sensibly and without stigma. It is absolutely the wrong move to ban/shut down something as that just makes it even more illicit, even more hidden, and even less likely for kids to discuss it and explore it in healthy ways.

Disappointed in Terry, I normally think he has good takes on things but this is classic puritanical shortsighted bullshit.

Demonizing porn?! Really?!!

Age old argument that sparks response but little action. Back in the 80s it was the PRMC who objected to pornographic lyrics in music and came up with a labeling system much like the movies. I still remember seeing Tipper Gore testify before congress about the lyrics to Darling Nikki by Prince and I forget which senator it was but he looked at her and said "I understand your concern but what are you asking us to do about it" and she had nothing. Then it was video games that were turning our children into mindless killers. Obviously Terry was jacking it to porn hub and forgot to clear his browser cache and the kids found it. Now it is his mission?

There are about 100 ways a parent can stop thier child from going to porn sites on the internet. The problem is it stops them as well so now Terry wants an easy answer?

R112

There is a lot more that goes into gay sex than that.

It sounds like his kids found gay porn!

I can't go to Chatterbate because so much of it is exploitative. Many of the performers from third world countries are doung it simply because there is no work where they are. And/or they are naive gay guys. The Colombians especially sadden me. And even in first world countries porn performers seem to come from poor backgrounds or are psychologically damaged or naive. And end up more damaged and drug addiction. I choose personally not to support that.

There are actually a few porn stars from affluent backgrounds

r119 tell that to Katherine Kelly Lang's son.

One of the things about James Deen is he came from a good background. His life goal was to be one of the biggest names in porn.

"What about the fucking children?" is all I hear.

Get your kids off the internet and block access, assholes. It's an adult world, not your kiddies' playpen because you're too lazy and detached to monitor them, counsel them and PARENT them.

Some of you truly sound lost and in love with porn. It’s scary.

r123 no we just don't need to be policed - most of us are responsible adults with an understanding of how things work. Don't want your 2-year old shooting your 1-year-old? Don't own a gun. Don't want to get arrested for drunk driving, don't drink and drive. Don't want your kid watching porn? Lockdown your router, block internet access or hey maybe spend time with your kid and teach them right from wrong and boundaries.

No one is policing you. You will still have your relationship with the only thing that will give you attention, porn. Only difference is now you would have to show you’re of legal age.

Porn hub does screw over studios and performers by allowing a platform where users post scenes for free but this guy is an idiot.

It’s just sex

He's right. End of story. It IS too easily accessible. Kids shouldn't be watching people take 3 dicks in the ass and one in the pussy.

Terry is a girl's name.

“It’s just sex”.

No. It isn’t. A sex scene in an R rated film is just sex. Watching up close penetration, many rough and violent shots is not “just sex”

Is there a name for a black male Karen?

Karen doesn’t have a race 🙄🙄🙄

Does Karen have a gender?

So who decides what is porn? You can say not being policed but that is exactly what it is. On my router I have access to block ip addresses from going to places on the internet. I can also check where they ARE going. It takes little effort to do that. What you want is something that takes that out of my hands and lets someone else decide what I and others can see. How do you prove you are 18? Put in a credit card number or DL number? Are you sure your kids don't have those things or could find them?

Yep they will always find a way around, like minors getting into bars/clubs.

R102 What do you mean by "of age"? What age would that be? And how would people prove that? Also, how hard it is to download porn from torrent sites, if porn sites are forbidden?

How is that, R7?

God, no thread better shows the invasion of Datalounge by women than this one.

R3 is spot on. YOU made the life-changing decision to by own your own actions (sex or otherwise) pump out kids. Grow up, shut up and learn how to parent. This world of coddling, entitlement and blaming others is so childish and ridiculous. You created offspring due to your own choices - now take responsibility for Heaven's sake. The burden is on YOU and the buck stops with you; it is not the rest of the world's responsibility to parent for you. Figure it out..

An 8 year old should not have unlimited access to the internet (and phone) anyway.

Teens are teens and are going to be horny with or without porn.

However, teens should still be monitored so they aren’t preyed on. But I don’t think watching porn is a big deal for teens who are naturally going to be horny and curious.

If people didn't insist on purchasing the latest iPhone for their eight year olds, it wouldn't be so accessible. Not only is it gross negligence to give a child a device with internet access, it opens them up to all number of potential threats...the least threatening of which is a particular popular porn site.

FYi R68 , R95, R55 is the tik tok troll And sex pest . Why does the portly troll hate porn?? When she posts tik toks objectifying high school wrestlers and porn whores??

DL logic: there's a couple of porn stars from wealthy backgrounds, therefore the majority who come into the industry from desperation don't count!

It's the parents job to put limits to their children's access to internet. As simple as that

The stone-cold truth is we simply don't live in a society where people, including kids, can be protected from a so-called threat like pornography, because this society deliberately chooses to fuck kids up in any way possible, so they grow into fucked up adults making them easy prey for the snake oil salesmen of this world.

Sure, some high almighty posers huff and puff and beat their chests, but have we made amy progress with our wars against drugs, racism, poverty, oppressive regimes, rape, etc.? It just makes good press to pretend to care and act like something is being done or at least on the verge of being done.

We do so like to think about the children and it just breaks our hearts to let them see corrupted by this thing called pornography so let's just start a war against pornography. That will go well and save so many innocent children! Yay!

I don't even consume porn all that much but find all this hand wringing utterly ridiculous. Of course, it's perfectly fine that impressionable youth can easily see Neonazis, spouting hate, Holocaust deniers, QAnoners telling them that deadly viruses are just a hoax, instructions on how to build explosive devices, Russian videos of homeless people getting their heads kicked in, all within a couple of clicks from the Google start page, but the sight of a penis going into a vagina or an asshole will scar them for life?? No wonder America is the place it is in 2020...

This reminds me of the people who attack video games. It’s like they don’t want us to have anything fun.

People who are afraid of their kids accessing porn should not have kids in the first place. And if you don't have kids, then it's apparently none of your business to be concerned about other people's kids. Shut up, fat troll OP.

R149 perfectly said and directed at fat troll .

Is the video at R143 as awful as I'm envisioning?

He got deblacked, yet still gained more Twitter followers. For every black person that drops him, Crews get a new alt-right follower who feels muzzled at not being allowed to directly abuse and insult black people. They're dreaming of a post-racial world where blackness doesn't exist and 'ex-blacks' are focused on the singular task of raising blond, white children.

Crews definitely turned into a tap dancer no argument against that. But the issue isn't Pornhub. The issue is more that the favorite social media guy/gal the young ones are following also promote OnlyFans or some kind of porn site to subscribe and watch.

R153 Any parents that let their child use that china spy app are morons. If you pay for your child’s phone and internet then it should be easy to monitor what the child is doing on it, if you do not you are a bad and lazy parent!

The Left is now the Right of the 1990s. Won’t somebody please think of the children???!!!

He’s an anti-gay idiot.

[quote]Any parents that let their child use that china spy app are morons.

What are the Chinese spying on? Teenage girls X and Y gossiping about how their other best friend Z is a whore for sleeping with her boyfriend?

It's an alt right tactic. Don't defund the police defund porn - if you don't you must hate children.

"Did your kid burn herself on the stove?"

"Yeah, she did. We thought the best course of action would be to get rid of the stove."

This is like turning the water heater off because some idiot kid burned their hand with hot water. If we just eliminate any potential source of a problem that our kid could have, regardless of who else it benefits, [italic]we won't have to put as much effort into parenting our children.[/italic]

Porn is e-VEL, e-VEL, I tells ya.

[quote]you two seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. The post said the girl was not allowed in the main living room ALONE. It was the same with the computer. ... She was allowed to watch two hours a day but one of the parents had to be with her.

I'm related to controlling parents like this and it's extremely unhealthy. It's weird that you're touting this as the only way to responsibly parent a child.

A teen needs to be able to choose what channel she watches and watch her shows alone, to be able to fangurl over something stupid like Riverdale if she wants to and then talk about it with her friends the next day. You don't have to let her watch whatever soft porn channel you're subscribe to, just learn to use parental controls and peek in every so often. Don't sit there and harangue your daughter into watching Jeopardy with you and then trot her out when Gay Uncle Datalounge comes over so you can impress him with how many questions she gets right, yeesh.

R27 I think he gave the 700 Club an interview recently so yeah he's a Trumper.

[quote]have we made amy progress with our wars against drugs, racism, poverty, oppressive regimes, rape, etc.?

When I was a kid, Just Say No was huge and drug use was "fought" constantly on kids' shows and sitcoms that always had at least one Special Episode.

Nowadays a huge chunk of 30-somethings through 50-somethings are on 400 different kinds of opioids at once, screaming on TikTok about Q and the Jews and Wayfair pedo rings, filming themselves at Target throwing products on the floor and howling like rabid wolves.

I'd say Nancy's anti-drug program was a stunning success!

We must trample down the perversion of nature!

Too much porn is bad for ANYONE

r106 - straights are a rather large group to generalize. My point is that if gays could get pregnant from unprotected sex, then there would be a lot more baby's out there whose parent is struggling to make the rent. People fuck up sometimes. But I don't get upset if I am somewhere like applebees and the poor couple are finally able to get out but can't afford the babysitter. I have sympathy for them and their kids. I have less patience for the family that rolls in driving the Armada.

My mom was at work all the time and has no idea how to use technology. She bought me a computer and internet for middle school. I was left unsupervised and adult men sexually abused me on the internet. This is the problem that should be addressed, not watching porn.

R167 🙄🙄🙄

she bought you a computer and the internet? wow you must be rich to have own the internet.

I got my first computer in 1999. I was 12. I was on the internet all the time, unsupervised, and never got “assaulted” by an adult.

So what? The point is countless others were propositioned or harmed

R170

Just because it didn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it isn’t a huge issue. I made it clear I was gay with all of my accounts and the adult men came after me. Neopets and other popular game sites at the time were crawling with them and they targeted me. They made me make a Hotmail account to live chat with them . They sexually abused me. I had no idea who they are. They never showed themselves and I stupidly sent my pics to them because they kept promising they would return the favor and never did.

Know what most pedophiles have in common? Avid porn watchers since young.

This is like an alcoholic demanding alcohol be banished from society. Keep your own side of the street clean Terry.

Stop comparing gay porn to straight porn,straight porn is pure violence nowdays

R172

Also there was a hairy white man in his 20s who I met on a popular game site. The game was a drawing game where you have to guess the word (forgot what it was called). He would go on webcam but I didn’t have a webcam only a camera. So I sent him pics and he got naked for me. He knew I was a minor and he abused me and took advantage of me.

Kids need guidance and answers. It's ignorance that makes the exposure to porn, and the internet, harmful to them, because they lack the skills to properly understand and process it.

And since the beginning of time most kids, and adults, fall victim to peer pressure.

I also stupidly sexted with a phony who catfished using a popular MySpace emo boy’s pic. I bet that was an adult too.

Porn use Linked to ED

Crews and many others aren’t just talking About how harmful porn is to children; they are also asserting that it is harmful for adults. The anti-porn movements that are gaining ground today focus more on harm to adults then harm to children.

R180

Everything can be harmful. Might as well ban everything.

Terry Crews - porn addict. Who knew?

Get therapy for your porn addiction or whatever and leave the rest of us alone. Thanks.

R36, thank you! A voice of reason.

I have zero sympathy for these stupid fraus (female AND male) who cannot or are unwilling to control their own precious child's content. I guess they are too busy posting on FB to monitor their own kids' online habits.

I'm an actor. Most actors are pretty dumb.

I'm shocked they can memorize their lines.

He just needs to shut up and take off his shirt. And maybe do some porn.

I think it's unreasonable at this point to say it's the parents fault. This isn't 2000, where internet was in fewer homes and families had one computer. It's woven into our lives and there's no going back.

I don't understand the hysteria over age verification. That's not banning it. We use age restrictions/ verification on everything, even online ordering. Porn was always restricted to 18+

Child on child sexual assaults are on quickly on the rise and it's from porn exposure. The Republican slogan "Muh freedumb" is just as asinine coming from people over showing proof of age. Really, that's a big deal? It's also the excuse used for porn being watched at libraries and other public spaces (thanks ACLU) Even adults are getting addicted, watching several hours of porn at work, then at home, but sure, children should be just fine, right? Parents should just do their jobs, right? (Nice classism once again, coming from those on the "left", that have no consideration for how over worked people are. DL often sounds more right than left.)

If you like porn so much, then you should happily put a stop to ripping off performers by allowing sites like pornhub to screw them over. Pornhub has hosted plenty of child porn by the way, because they, and other porn platforms, fought laws that held them responsible for hosting content.

I'm linking an article. It makes a good point: "If liquor companies had vending machines outside their buildings and to buy some, you had to press a button that asked: Are you 21? Yes or no? Would you, as a parent, stand for it?"

"ELEVEN is the average age a child is first exposed to porn. And 94% of kids will see porn by age 14."

Stop making excuses for allowing this. It takes a village.

Here's that link

Everyone is so pro porn, until they freak out over having to have something like verification linked to it. If it's all good, own it.

Nobody learns. Restricting porn streaming sites is only going to cause a surge in torrenting/downloads. Also if pornhub falls, there is a plethora of other streaming sites. What are you going to do, attack them all?

Fuck you imbeciles.

I had to open some ports for a friend on his router. It was for playing some FPS game that his kid played. I don't doubt that it can be exploited. Or the game itself is probably showing some porn.

Is there a bigger closet case attention whore than this annoying guy?

And how many 11 year olds are going to download from torrents and mom and dad not know? Let’s be real. It’s easy to stream and get away with it, but when you’re now downloading it’s easier to get caught, and harder to do on a phone or tablet.

Nothing wrong with having to prove you’re of age.

Did Americans somehow miss that we tried to implement this in Britain and once it quickly became apparent that it was impossible to do they shelved it? This was after parental control software was made available free to all parents in the UK - and yet most were too lazy or stupid to actually use it.

Anyone saying they should introduce age verification needs to explain how such a system would work. And what would you do about sites like Reddit, which aren't porn sites, but have subReddits which host porn? What are you going to do about sites which refuse to obey and aren't located in the US? Block them? Ask Pirate Bay how blocking has stopped them.

Age verification usually is done with someone who has his own credit card.

R195 So everyone who wants to watch porn has to give their credit card details to a porn company? Why, that's not going to end in disaster.

And what about those who don't have credit cards?

R196 then use torrents.

You already have to verify your age for everything adult oriented. Internet providers, platforms like Windows and internet browsers like Firefox and Microsoft Edge have parental locks. In a lot of cases you have to enter credit card details to get access to adult content. However, kids choose to work around these restrictions in order to watch content that is not suitable for them. Now, the society we are living in doesn't blame the children for breaking rules in order to get what they want, we dismiss it as "they are just kids, and they don't know any better!". So, what's the next best thing? Blame the parents for not watching over their kids enough to keep them from breaking the rules.

The porn industry and the service providers took the necessary steps and it's not their fault that kids willingly break the rules and cross boundaries in order to watch stuff that, again, is not suitable for them.

Parents need to take responsibility for what is happening in their homes and with their internet connection. That is a burden they cannot just push to someone else.

Parenting is most certainly not easy. And protecting your kids from unsuitable content or making sure they know how to understand and process porn, when they get exposed to it, so they don't get traumatized by it is part of a parent's duty.

Porn sites make it easily accessible so kids DO watch. Let’s stop lying. It’s time to start shutting down some of these sites, especially the ones who use site names close to kid site names.

Can someone provide actual examples of porn sites with names that mirror child friendly content?

R197 So your own idea comes with this huge loophole then? And your only defence against that is hoping kids don't learn about torrents? And you've still not answered what you'd do about non-US sites and sites like Reddit. And that's without getting into questions like will you ban proxy sites?

British governments love banning stuff, and they couldn't make this work. It's not like this is a new idea and people just haven't thought it through. It's simply not feasible.

[quote] Porn sites make it easily accessible so kids DO watch. Let’s stop lying. It’s time to start shutting down some of these sites, especially the ones who use site names close to kid site names.

How about you take care of your fucking crotch fruit you so selfishly produced?

One of the easiest solutions would be for parents to cut their internet connection and make sure that their kids only socialize with kids who live in homes where the internet connection was cut, too.

That's too inconvenient and takes too much effort? Now, what's more important to you: Your kids or you being able to stream your favorite movies and shows (and watch your favorite porn on your laptop in the locked bathroom)?

Terry is just mad that the bad man touched his no-no.

r194 - Americans are a funny bunch. They will shoot people who tell them they have to wear a mask to save lives but complain that the government should make it harder to get porn in your home despite almost every ISP and router makers giving you dozens of tools that are easy to use to protect your kids. It is usually the same people who complain about masks and constitutional rights who turn around and demand the government do something to ban something.

I don't support placing the burden on others to protect your kids. But r203 is a loon. Cut the internet connection? You do know that since the pandemic there are a lot of people who rely on the internet to do their job, right? Besides, you can employ every available tool to guard your children's internet usage at home. They will find a way around that though. They will connect to neighbor's WIFI or get a cell phone that you don't know about. They will get around the safeguards put on web sites too.

The only defense is to educate your kids early. Like 5 or 6. You have to explain to them why they shouldn't be watching it. it should be part of the sex talk. So even when they do work around your safeguards (because they will) , you will have already made an impression on them. It really is all you can do.

So all you guys insisting that people use blocking on routers or trying to monitor everything your kid does are just clueless in my opinion. It kills me that you complain about helicopter parenting but when your porn is threatened it means that children should be kept behind locked doors and monitored 24/7.

Again, I am a gay man, not some frau.

The alternative has been steadily mentioned numerous times during this thread. In the vein of "if it's not broke, then someone's going to try to fix it," so too "some people can't be happy unless they're crying about something."

This is easy enough:

R207, quit being so naive. Google "bypass parental controls" and see how easy it is. You make it the forbidden fruit and they will only be more enticed to see it.

The kids obviously know more about it than you do. You just want to claim that parents are lazy and you found an article that proves it. No, I am sure thousands of parents have read that article or a similar one and tried to deploy those tactics. Only later did they discover how useless those efforts were.

For the kids, it really is "easy enough", you twit.

[quote] I don't support placing the burden on others to protect your kids. But [R203] is a loon. Cut the internet connection? You do know that since the pandemic there are a lot of people who rely on the internet to do their job, right?

So you completely ignored the "Woooooosh!" sound over your head then?

Let me spell it out for you: H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y

Parents demand OTHERS to keep these parents' children away from porn, so these very parents can still enjoy the advantages an internet connection can provide for them.

r208 not really if you set it at the router and set a router pw.

Yes, I got that. It wasn't a subtle point. And I have stated all along that parents shouldn't be throwing that responsibility on others. But your ill thought out solution said that the parents wouldn't do it because they wanted to continue to stream movies and TV and watch porn. My point was that many parents can't do that right now because their employment depends on an internet connection. I don't see keeping food on the table as being hypocritical.

And besides, cutting the cord would be futile at best. Unless you are going to home school them, Not allow them to play sports and not let them go to church then cutting the cord is just one thing. No, the answer is to educate them from an early age. Which I suggested earlier but you paid no attention to.

Look, I'm sorry I called you a Loon. But it is obvious that you have no idea the challenges faced by parents today. I do. It used to be my job to know. Just stay in your lane.

R210, you are being simplistic. I know kids who could factory reset a router at 8. Just that you would try to explain setting up a router to anyone makes it look like you think that is some grain of knowledge. Oh, really? It would need a password too? What a revelation.

There is no need for porn. End it.

r212 - I actually have quite a bit of knowledge on the subject. Yes, router can be reset and can be re-set up. I'm happy you know eight-year-olds who can reset a router is nice for you. I know parents how would punish a kid who did that. See how that works? I know responsible parents your friends all voted for Trump.

“Fragile white people.”, R10, LOL

R21 I like Terry too, nice guy, articulate, smok’n hot body, and you just know he’s packing some major BBC. Score

They'll never put porn back in the bottle. But, the desire to do so can always be used to make someone look they're trying to do something.

[quote] My point was that many parents can't do that right now because their employment depends on an internet connection. I don't see keeping food on the table as being hypocritical.

Your point is that, apparently, while fighting hard to make a living they still find the time to complain about the easy access their kids have to porn (after the kids bypassed every parent lock in their way) instead of, you know, spend the time parenting. Time well-used, I guess.

You don't see that as hypocritical? I do.

r218 - And I would agree with you about that. I was only talking about cutting the cord as being a bad solution. I have never defended or endorsed regulating porn. Not every person who needs a connection in the home and has kids are behind regulating porn. If somebody needed a record player in their home to do their job, it doesn't mean that they immediately are transformed into Tipper Gore. So stop putting words in my mouth.

I have stated many times that the parent must educate the child about porn early before somebody else does. I think when you have the sex talk with them is the perfect time. Because, they are going to be exposed to porn no matter what.

r214 -> I never said you weren't knowledgeable about routers. It was obvious from your post what your opinion of yourself is. But most people with children below the age of 18 are also knowledgeable about routers or know someone who is. And they certainly don't need to be told they will need to set a password. That is why I said you were being simplistic. You were offering a solution from the early 2000s that everybody pertinent already knows about.

Sure the parents should punish the kid for messing with the router. But how soon would they discover it? Do you check the password for your router every day? By the time that the parent's figure it out, the flow of porn could have flowing for days, weeks, or even months. But you want to attack parents as not being responsible and assume you know my friends and who they would vote for.

That is like the lamest comeback I have heard yet.

No one here complaining about porn has any plan for ANYTHING.

[quote] But how soon would they discover it?

That will depend on how much they truly care about their kids and how much they truly care to protect them from porn.

r220 - perhaps you should ask your smart kids or friends kids how to to set up email alerts. Or you know change some defaults from the router so the DHCP server hands out a different ip address range than 192.168.1.X - There are plenty of ways to lock down a router beyond a pw. You just have to RTFM.

The thing is, where does it end? Why specifically target porn? People can become addicted to lots of things. What is the goal? To ban everything fun?

The goal is never to win this type of war. It's to set up conditions of shame to make people feel shame about themselves, their thoughts, their desires, their actions. When you feel ashamed or guilty about something you want to redeem yourself. Christianity perfected this by calling everybody sinners and declared pretty much everything that makes us human a sin and then generously offered a solution where sinners, who are willing to repent, could cleanse themselves from all that sin. For a price, of course.

The basic scam is that the ones who made you self-conscious about yourself are also the ones who give you the cure, or solution, for what you are self-conscious about.

R225 it’s 2020. The new Social Justice Religion is calling far more people sinners than Christianity.

r226, well duh. The scam moved on to a more popular venue. Social Media. Or are you honestly claiming that Social Media doesn't make a great deal of people self-conscious about themselves and social media influencer or, say, the alt-right don't have plenty to offer to make you feel better about yourself?

Hey, I'm just a simple caveman. Your routers frighten me and the "email" you speak of makes me wonder "are there little demons inside that magic box conjuring up these words and pictures. I have only seen things like that on the wall of my cave." But I do know one thing, That when a router has been factory reset, then it can't send emails. There was once a stranger who was visiting our village to trade in coconuts and monkey brains. He suggested that we pick out one member of the tribe to carve a picture on the wall every day telling us we have no reason to fear the sun god, so that we would know he smiled upon us. But that picture was the same day after day and eventually the elders stopped paying attention to it. Then one day, we angered the sun god and he smote that picture carver and the daily pictures stopped. But nobody noticed until the village was flooded.

Now I am finished playing this game. Any kid with halfway decent Kung Fu could use ipconfig /all on his machine and get the basics of how the subnet was set up. And yes, I know that there are free services that will continually ping your network devices and only notify you when they go down. And there are probably even better solutions than that, but now we are justt being silly now. TBH, I am not so sure about your Kung Fu.

But the fact remains that just locking down the connection at your house does not prevent them from seeing internet porn. That is why you have to educate your kids about everything as soon as you think they are able to handle it.

r228 it can be configured to send an email when someone logs into it, or it gets factory reset (well at least mine does but hey I don't use coconuts as currency). And my point is - what is age verification going to do for a sophisticated 6-year-old who can apparently hack routers and figured out subnetting. Apparently they will be baffled by "enter your credit card number. But no lets spend billions on a scheme a 6-year-old can bypass in a minute.