Why Many LGBT People Have Started Using A New Pride Flag

It's ugly. But I like the colours of the new interests visually piercing the heart of the old flag. Sums it up well.

R1 it’s fucking ugly. There is no need for all that nonsense. The flag was never supposed to represent skin color.

I see the new one everywhere now

Wow! The first words that came to mind was It's ugly. I see I'm not alone.

What a mess. This had to be designed by lesbians.

A great example of "design by committee". Horrid.

Somehow, this ugly mish-mash of colors and design seems appropriate to represent the mish-mash alphabet soup of letters that designates gays and the adjacent identities that have become attached to us.

Stupidity.

Many? As in three or four? We already have a pride flag, and since I don't associate being gay with transgendered people, I'll continue to use the real flag.

There is drama in the U.K. surrounding the rainbow symbol. Part of why they’re changing it.

R7 Nailed it.

Cervical charities, Boys Town, La leche league, women’s prisons, and now the pride flag. These are all things changed to appease hysterical trannies.

It’s just the beginning.

[quote] Cervical charities, Boys Town, La leche league, women’s prisons, and now the pride flag. These are all things changed to appease hysterical trannies.

Some of those were actually changed to appease lesbians.

LBT+ hates the G.

Because the G consists of (what at least appears to be) mostly white males and people are sick of them

Whatever

Shitty design, a crime against good taste committed by one of those nonbinary fuckers.

I bet that the creator is making tons of money, basically by having stolen another person's (free) design and making it worse.

Absolutely unnecessary. I am GAY. I am not a tranny, and I resent the trannies clinging onto our shirttails for a free ride. I can sympathize with the black/brown thing, but they are not my issue or fight. And I will fucking not apologize for being Caucasian. Enough!

OP, if you can't give us a definition of the word "Progress" you have no right to use it.

R18 you were born around the Caucasus mountains?

Doesn't the rainbow flag represent all the colors of the rainbow?

I thought it was including bears!

The original flag represents the internal, universal, transcendent human qualities we all share. It does not single out specific races, genders, or sexual orientations. Props to the “designer” of the new flag for making it look like the trans logo and a few select skin tones are raping the rainbow. Accurate.

What do trannies have to do with gay people? Can’t those freaks get their own flag?

In five years the trannazis will complain their color is too small and the flag is literal violence to them.

It looks like the flag of South Africa but just gay and tacky.

[quote] Because the G consists of (what at least appears to be) mostly white males

Probably because most of the males in your country are white on average. And white guys are the least likely to be closeted, so what fo you expect?

That does not represent me. Rainbow is supposed to be all inclusive. That stupid flag is just trying too hard.

R15 - Because the G consists of ( what at least appears to be ) mostly white males and people are sick of them.

As someone who watched many of my friends die horrible deaths in the 80s and who marched for recognition of their suffering and of the disease that was killing them, your casual disregard disgusts me. You’re as bad, if not worse, than the bastards that wanted us tattooed and quarantined.

r5 correction: transbians

W&W, R29.

There actually WAS a lesbian flag designed in 2010, but they kept arguing amongst themselves over the colors and design, so it never caught on.

I am gay and I don't consider myself to be LTBTQ....whatever. Good for them, and, like me, they've benefited from the work of our gay and lesbian predecessors.

They gay flag is too busy already, this took a bad flag and made it worse.

Can someone literate start these type of threads instead of OP please?

The idea of the rainbow flag and the Rainbow Coalition was that it was supposed to include EVERYBODY. Creating new flags for different groups defeats the very purpose of the flag -To unite us as one, totally diverse group. We started off with G, and then LG. We added B and T. We made room for Q (which no one could agree on what it stood for), and even added a + just in case we missed anyone. Whether you are a bear, leather, trans, non-binary, or whatever you are represented in that flag. I don't see how dividing ourselves up into squadrons ready to battle it out helps any of us... The original rainbow is good enough for me.

Well, I'm a black gay male and I find this new flag hideous. The original rainbow flag was so beautiful and now it's been ruined and for what? As someone else stated, none of the colors to my knowledge were meant to represent any specific race, which made the original flag the perfect symbol for the gay community. And though I fully support trans rights, I feel this was a completely unnecessary "update" that no one needed or asked for.

NOBODY wants this stupid new flag. The media are just telling us we want it and we're supposed to go along. This is how it goes now. Instead of reporting the news, they just decide what the news is.

I will be waving my OG Rainbow Brite Flag and fuck anyone who tells me I can't wave it! Fuck them!!!

You had a flag so iconic it’s in the Museum of Modern Art’s Design collection, and the you RUIN it.

What - no furries? I feel literally violated.

R41 Dear God, is that really a thing?! Tasteless and cartoonish. Sort of like Furries I suppose, so there's that.

R36 Exactly!

There was no reason to do this. What utter fucking nonsense.

The rainbow was an allusion to The Wizard of Oz/Judy. It's for the gays.

Get your own flag.

The new Pride flag is a new gesture of inclusion to counter the whole "Drop the T, or whatever letter we try to get rid of through divide & conquer" hype on social media.

And it's because of trolls like ...

[quote] We already have a pride flag, and since I don't associate being gay with transgendered people, I'll continue to use the real flag.

The LGBT Community felt the need to make a reaffirming statement that the LGBT Community is about inclusion and staying united against real enemies like the Republican Party and other groups of bigots.

[quote] The new Pride flag is a new gesture of inclusion to counter the whole "Drop the T, or whatever letter we try to get rid of through divide & conquer" hype on social media.

[quote] The LGBT Community felt the need to make a reaffirming statement that the LGBT Community is about inclusion and staying united against real enemies like the Republican Party and other groups of bigots.

This is exactly the fucked-up, insensitive shit that's riling people up against the T in the first place. What, they protest that the TQIA* colonize gay and lesbian spaces? Let's create a flag in which the T and BIPOC (for whatever reason) literally spearhead into their community.

Way to help your cause! smh

I didn't use an old one.

So if trans have their own flag, they are now inserted into the gay pride flag. Can the rainbow now be inserted into the Trans flag?

Seriously, these are such petty bullshit issues. So they put black in - as if the green, yellow, and orange people were dominating the scene too much.

This isn't the confederate flag for crying out loud. And it can't be stated enough, there would be no neighborhoods, bars, and safe, sexually liberal places without the gay men.

Yet gays, like women, have been conditioned to listen and to try to accommodate everyone. This isn't about inclusion anymore - this is about takeover and it's out in the open.

Ugly as sin. We already have a shitload of LGBT flags (twinks, bears, nonbinary, bisexuals, etc. all have their own flags). We almost have as many different flags as the United Nations.

there's a twink flag R49?

It's tiny, thin, R50.

R50 R51 Nearly every LGBT subculture has their own flag. Here is the twink flag.

There’s even a f*g hag flag:

Well I'll be damned! Looks like an Easter decoration tho R52.

What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine.

Maybe it’s time to drop acronyms and return to east the term Gay.

My penis does not approve.

If you had surgery to be the opposite sex, why are you under the rainbow umbrella at all? Unless you are a MTF lesbian now or something.

R15, I'm not sick of white gay men (why on earth should anybody be?), I'm sick of the trannies though. They can fuck off and this flag is bullshit.

R58 "Unless you are a MTF lesbian now or something".

Also known as: heterosexual man with extra steps.

Daniel Quasar designed the flag, not a lesbian, R5, and not a committee, R6.

R60 Wait - what if two MTF “lesbians” - who only dated women before they transitioned - start dating each other. Are they still heterosexual?

R62 That's a typical phenomenon among autogynephiles. They realize actual lesbians (and most bi women) are not interested in them, thus they settle for a fellow autogynephile so they can indulge their fetish. Very common with MTF incels, aka nerdy "beta" males - see picture.

R63 Well, at least they’re not forcing themselves on women as the legend goes. They look pretty harmless to me.

r62, they delusionally consider themselves lesbians; the sane world still considers them autogynephilic incels who are opportunistically engaging in homosexual sex because no matter how much lipstick they put on no one who isn't also a crazy creep will ever fuck them.

r64, far from a legend. You do realize nearly all of the online lesbian forums were overtaken by 'transbians' and that lesbians are no longer welcome in LGBTQ+ groups offline unless they agree to consider men in dresses as sexual partners?

R64 "Legend"? Are you joking? Forcing themselves on lesbians and into lesbian spaces is their favorite pastime, just like how "FTM gay men" love to harass gay men for our "exclusionary preferences" (i.e. homosexuality). Some will eventually realize there is no hope for them, so they just fuck each other.

R61 Gay men like Quasar should really wake up and realize they are being treated like doormats by the TQ++. Queer and trans activists are spreading the most homophobic rhetoric since the ex-gay movement started and he awards them with a freaking uber-"inclusive flag? Give me a fucking break.

A photo of our trans-troll:

So a gay white man - with an art degree - actually designed the hideous and obnoxious “inclusion” flag?

Well-played, sir!

I'm surprised nobody has argued for the American flag to be more "racially inclusive" yet . At least nobody that I know of.

[quote]I'm surprised nobody has argued for the American flag to be more "racially inclusive" yet . At least nobody that I know of.

Because these people do it only where they don't have to face any resistance due to a misunderstood sense of unquestioned solidarity.

I can't believe it was designed by a gay man.

It's so ugly it looks like something only a lesbian could be capable of.

I'm not using the new hideous trans colonized flag. I do not recognize their religious beliefs as having anything to do with my sexuality, other than standing in direct opposition to it.

Your sexuality being cis-lesbian, R74.

[quote] I can't believe it was designed by a gay man.

How very dare you misgendering xem? How very dare you?

This is LITERAL VIOLENCE!

Gay rights felt so much more inclusive when they began.

Then lesbians demanded they get their own special place and that led to another and....

There is no such thing as an LGBT person.

There is no such thing as an LGBT person.

Is it weird that I want to go to Amazon and buy like six gay pride flags out of fear they'll just disappear?

[quote]—Sybil

Are you British?

[quote] Because these people do it only where they don't have to face any resistance due to a misunderstood sense of unquestioned solidarity.

So true. As a gay brown dude, I will say I was so much happier with the previous pride flag. This new one looks stupid and ugly.

r80, they probably will accuse anyone selling the old flag of being a bigot.

The originial Pride flag was beautiful and inspiring.

But lesbians tried to undermine it and this is the result.

I'm also confused, R58. If we accept that "transwomen are women" and the (trans)woman likes to fuck men, then she is heterosexual, no? So not part of the pride flag. And if the (trans)woman likes to fuck women, then the pride flag covers them already, with no need for a special trans part.

Just use original with leeches sewn in the middle.

R85 Nothing the trans say makes sense.

The LGBT Community stands for inclusion. The anti trans trolls stand for exclusion, you know, the neocons' divide & conquer strategy. What they don't realize is they do stand on their own already.

Quite simple. Is it not?

Trans are the opposite of inclusion, r88. They don't want to be included, they want to take over.

In any case, an inclusive society is one that allows all its citizens to be who they are and form their own cultures, communities, identities and forms of expression. "LGBT" is not society. Lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and trans people are not "society", we are members of a much broader society, "society" here usually standing in for the country or political state in which we live. I can be a gay person without being part of the LGBT. In fact, as a gay person, I find that what the LGBT has become stifles me and doesn't let me be who I am. It does not represent me. So, I have no interest in being part of the LGBT - which is not inclusive, but increasingly dictatorial.

Well said, r89.

If r89 can't find common ground with the LGBT Community ... well, guess what: He doesn't consider the Right Wing homophobic Nazis a big enough threat. The LGBT Community recognizes the threat Trump and the GOP pose. So, good luck r89 on your own journey with the Nazis you sympathize in order to stick it to the Trannies. And while you're at it, own the Libs by not wearing a mask.

R91, well done! Fantastic false dichotomy!

Again, we get told by the woke crowd to get with the program or to get wiped out by some bogeyman on the right. Here's the thing... We are fighting against the right-wing, Trumptard assholes, always have, always will be, but that doesn't mean that we have to get on board with the dubious tranny agenda without questioning it.

R91, I find common ground with people attracted to their own sex, not with trans people.

I'm also not American, so the GOP has no direct impact on me. The trans are the biggest gift to the GOP, right wing and homophobes, though, not to mention their own personal homophobia and misogyny.

[quote]We are fighting against the right-wing

No you're not. Plenty of lesbians, like the ones on this thread have done nothing to defend the Pride Flag from attacks like this.

r92, what does your "we" mean. Log Cabin Republicans, Russian bot trolls, or alt-right incels?

R95, some of them are just right-wingers. They'll excuse homophobia if it comes from people who agree with them on other issues.

[quote] what does your "we" mean. Log Cabin Republicans, Russian bot trolls, or alt-right incels?

Again, well done! Fantastic ad-hominem!

Translation: If you don't agree with the colonization of gray and lesbian spaces, then you are a self-hating nazi!

*gay

[quote]If you don't agree with the colonization of gray and lesbian spaces, then you are a self-hating nazi!

You're fine with the colonization of gay spaces by the group who are actually colonizing them -- not trans women -- straight women.

[quote] You're fine with the colonization of gay spaces by the group who are actually colonizing them -- not trans women -- straight women.

Well done! Fantastic shifting of goal posts!

Huh, I didn't realize that this abomination of a flag was designed by straight women... Maybe because it wasn't?

[quote]Huh, I didn't realize that this abomination of a flag was designed by straight women... Maybe because it wasn't?

It was allowing women into the gay rights movement that saw it turn into a general corporate-rights-4-all movement as exemplified by this flag.

This flag was designed by a gay man. I don't care for it. But if it wasn't for gay men there wouldn't even be a flag to design.

You're willing to attack the person (a gay man) who designed it to defend straight women.

[quote] Again, we get told by the woke crowd to get with the program or to get wiped out by some bogeyman on the right.

Shows where your true loyalties are. "Woke crowd", bogeyman on the right. And yet the threat from the legions / handful of trannies (depending on the straw man argument) is as real as the regressive / radical left and the antifa.

I was half paying attention, but I think I saw mini versions of the pastel flag at Target in NYC yesterday. It barely registered because I was paying attention to something else, but I made a mental note. Maybe I’ll go back and see later today.

What terrifies the right wing the most is when individuals push their differences aside and stand united against them. Hence, their divide & conquer strategy to prevent a unified opposition fighting against them.

You think an opposition doing a half ass job can defeat Trump, McConnell, Barr, the GOP. the Christian Right Wing? Oh, you think without the trannies the opposition is so much stronger? Oh, and it will be even stronger without the Bisexuals! Oh, and fuck those Millennial Queers! They are so disgusting with their dyed hair And that stupid Tic Toc generation can fuck right off, too! And those Lesbians better drive off in their U-Hauls! They just slow us all down with their "Hey, that's no funny!" complaints! The Gays are all powerful on their own and can take on everybody, including Vladimir Putin! Yay!

Fuck it. At least with this new flag monstrosity we can point it to the Joes and Janes and say “see, we (gays) had nothing to do with it.”

Either most of DL is willfully blind or happily complicit with the tonal shift toward gays since the rise of TQ. Most people were fine with gays and lesbians. We integrated, people got to know gay people, and most of us just want to live our lives.

Now they spread the TQ social justice insane shit and have second thoughts. The ones who always hated us look to them and say “SEE? The ‘slippery slope’ was right! This is what you get for appeasing fags!”

Read the comments. Few can split gay men from trannies and queers, but the hate is directed toward GAY MEN. Now the pedophilia trope is tearing its head again.

At least with this fucking awful flag I can say these psycho anarchists ruined us gay men, too. They hate us.

I have R13, R56 R73, R75, R77, R81, R84, R94, R96, R99, AND R101 blocked and upon closer inspection it turns out it's the deranged homophobic psycho tranny troll with mommy issues. His usual tactic is to derail threads that are even remotely critical of trans dogma by posting obsessively (he once wrote at least 50 replies in a thread with around 100 posts).

Some of his posts include:

- Saying that Bruce Jenner looks better than actual women

- Derailing a thread about a Moroccan tranny responsible for the suicides of multiple gay men

- Constantly screeching about women (specially lesbians) and calling them "TERFs", "fish", "dykes", etc

- Believes all women are narcissists

- Thinks little gay boys should be doing drag

- Claims that he came here "for Lucille Ball discussions", yet his posting history shows that he's just a troll

Reminder to ignore and block the deranged tranny troll.

I have that psycho freak on ignore too, r106. Ignore it.

[quote] Shows where your true loyalties are. "Woke crowd", bogeyman on the right. And yet the threat from the legions / handful of trannies (depending on the straw man argument) is as real as the regressive / radical left and the antifa.

Oh, did I use terminology that the woke crowd disapproves of (oops, I said it again)? Did I accidentally use one of the many, many 'dog whistle' words that allow others to divine my true self and let them finally dismiss me as a nazi after all?

I never voted conservative or right-wing all my life (and I never missed an election). But it doesn't matter, right? Because in your ideological view, you just self-righteously assume that you have the moral superiority and that any criticism is invalid.

I don't care, to be honest... but if this is the future of the left, they will start to lose moderates quickly.

[quote] I don't care, to be honest... but if this is the future of the left, they will start to lose moderates quickly.

Moderates? Like, the bad, bad trannies push you in the arms of Trump, because they simply cannot be allowed to win? That sort of moderate? Did you also cry about Hillary's emails?

R104 Sorry pal, but I don't stand united with a group of people that calls being gay a "transphobic" "genital preference" (language lifted directly from the Christian ex-gay movement). That you seriously think the gay rights movement needs the T (and not the other way around) is laughable. We were doing much better without them.

The crazed trans thread derailer at r109 is trying another tactic now, this one equally as stupid as his previous one.

[quote] well done! Fantastic ad-hominem!

[quote] Well done! Fantastic shifting of goal posts!

Too bad there isn't a single Karen on DL, because she sure would ask to speak to a manager to get some better trolls around here. The ones DL has are just basic.

If “trans women” were women why don’t they just join a woman’s organization instead of trying to hijack ours? Because they are MEN and they know it. I no longer give a dime to any gay organization that is now all about the mentally ill trans. I don’t give money to organizations for them to go on crusades to allow grown men into women’s bathrooms.

R111 yeah you can tell they're a real nutcase. Probably trans. They love policing the internet all day for wrong think. Hey R109 why don't you go to the thread on the trans pedo and tell people that never ever happens, and deny that they're seriously considering putting him in a womans prison. You'd get off on that, wouldn't you? You're a misogynistic, homophobic slob. Don't you have anything better to do, like convincing 12 year old gay boys to castrate themselves for your righteous cause?

We're on to you.

R109 don't you have an appointment to defend Jenner for stealing his daughters panties? Oh no, I'm making an abusive trans woman look bad?! Better punch me in the head for being a "Nazi bigot"! How about some rape threats? That'll show me for trying to point out reality.

[quote] Absolutely unnecessary. I am GAY. I am not a tranny, and I resent the trannies clinging onto our shirttails

Oh, dear.

Look at that anti trans troll being triggered. Next stop: Right Wing Safe Space.

These are the people R104 stands united with. A "trans masc" person (aka a woman) who believes gay is outdated and that if you are a man who likes dick, then you are not really gay (since "women can have penises"). In her closing paragraph she poses the following question:

"Should those who are attracted specifically to a genital type stop referring to themselves as homosexual or heterosexual and instead take up another label as genitals =/= sex =/= gender?"

Because obviously we need the seal of approval of a homophobe before we can call ourselves gay.

I feel like we can mostly focus on gay rights with trans women under our umbrella.

This thread proves its impossible to focus on gay rights with lesbians anywhere near us gay men.

R69 She looks like a Little Britain character played by Matt Lucas.

who can keep up with all these changes?

R117 you don't have to tell us, we know the right is your next stop, since you support conversion therapy against baby gays and lesbians. You'd fit in perfectly. The right will probably even volunteer to drive the kids to the "affirmation" clinic for you!

Looks fair to me.

The mostly white transgenders pushing into the rainbow flag using black and brown people as cover to justify themselves (how many times are protestors and debates attempted to be silenced by the invocation of the 'black trans woman' or by comparing biological women not wanting to share spaces with biological men to racial segregation)

On top of being part of the ongoing movement to replace gay men with queers and trans women, this new flag violates the rules of Vexillology. The old flag was easy to remember and recreate.

R123 the imagery is so perfect in that way -- middle aged, straight white men, appropriating the struggles of POC to rape the entire LGB. This flag is visually representive of colonization, you'd think it was satire.

[quote]middle aged, straight white men, appropriating the struggles of POC to rape the entire LGB.

No straight man is raping me.

But I'm not LGB. I'm just G.

To be honest, i didn't see that new flag anywhere in my country

The old flag is transphobic and if you dare use it, we are cancelling you !!!

It's ugly. The rainbow flag is a simple, aesthetically pleasing design.

I'd rather the baby pink and blue were incorporated into the main rainbow. Just change two of the six shades on the six bars.

The other colors look muddy.

It's not the “old” flag or the “new” flag. That concedes the argument, before debate begins.

It’s the Pride flag (original and existing) or an incoherent mishmash pretending to be the “new” flag. Calling it “new” is just using standard, dishonest advertising techniques to change attitudes. (New and Improved! It’s New! So we have to Buy Buy Buy it!!)

Because liberals/the left have made the LGBT about trannies only. They only seem to care about them.

People are threatened by gay men asserting their sexuality and rights. That's why there is such an interest in allowing lesbians and women to subvert the movement.

So is the original Pride flag now equivalent to the Confederate flag?

What comes after trans women of color? I mean..... how many times can you reduce a group before it reaches its elemental components?

R133 exactly. The “LGBT” movement has effectively neutered gay men.

R136 It’s weird though - a gay white man’s design was chosen over all the others. (Yes - there were others submitted by trans BIPOC). Ironic?

Gay men are expected to do all the labor to support women in their various guises within the movement.

Isn't it weird how Dave Chapelle was able to comment on all this in one of his shows last year? He got destroyed for it, but interesting that he had the foresight to see all this coming.

Dave Chapelle is big homophobe.

Fuck this new flag--it's an abomination. This demonstrats the limits of inclusion. Will furries, NAMBLA supporters, otters, bears, femmes, gay people who refuse to refer to themselves as gay, down-low people, also want additional colors for their "representation"? Stupid.

R139 Not exactly - his 2019 comedy special has a 99% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and the original Chappelle Show is back on Comedy Central.

R140 Chappelle IS an observant Muslim, so he can’t agree with homosexuality per se. That does not make him a homophobe, and his jokes about the alphabet community sharing a car in “Sticks and Stones” were spot-on.

It makes him a homophobe

Well what I mean R142 is he got raked over the coals by high-minded tv critics who thought the audience would give a shit about what they had to say. Almost all of them gave him a "rotten tomato."

How is a critic of anything even a job anymore with yelp and google reviews and comment sections.

[quote]he can’t agree with homosexuality per se. That does not make him a homophobe

Wow.

F&F.

>I can't believe it was designed by a gay man.

It's so ugly it looks like something only a lesbian could be capable of.

This is but one reason the rest of us want the "G" removed from LGBTQ.

[quote] Because liberals/the left have made the LGBT about trannies only. They only seem to care about them.

And there is one good reason for that which you willingly ignore for some reason: The right wing made it their pet project to pick on the trannies in the first place. Like, with the public restroom bill and kicking them out of the military. That sort of public push against the T made it possible for organizations like the HRC to push for Transgender rights and protections as an immediate reaction to the right wing's fight against the Ts, an established part of the LGBT Community.

The right wing got the ball rolling. The anti trans trolls keep it rolling with their "Drop the T! T recruit kids! Gay Erasure!" rhetoric. The LGBT organizations keep using it, because it's a hot topic. The media keeps its focus where the hyped up action is.

The anti trans trolls have only themselves to blame when they complain about the big focus on Trans from the LGBT Community.

[quote]This is but one reason the rest of us want the "G" removed from LGBTQ.

'The rest of us'? Who?

R146 Let me clarify: from what I’ve seen, Chapelle has not treated gay people as a “threat” but is honest about his upbringing and conditioning to believe it’s wrong. He’s a victim of social/religious indoctrination, but has room to evolve and is not a dyed-in-the-wool homophobe. Sure - he’s made crass gay/trans jokes in the past, but he’s made jokes about straight people’s sexual issues too. No one is safe from his criticism.

His nuanced points about infighting among the LGBT community shows that he looks beyond the stereotypes and tries to empathize with the problems we’re facing. I’m a gay man and Chappelle does not offend me, nor most others, otherwise his ass would be CANCELLED by now.

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

R151, that is the only pride flag I would ever stand under, proudly.

Why can't we have just a gay flag?

[quote]Why Many LGBT People Have Started Using A New Pride Flag

No, thank you.

We have all had sufficient.

It's about time. The old flag was so white oriented. We need change, time to get into the 21st century.

How was it "white" oriented? That's like saying the American flag is "too white".

R129 The rainbow flag is nice but it's an old hippie design.

It was popularised by those who try to sell the gays to the world as nice, anodyne and sexless.

That new rainbow flag is ugly as sin. I would buy a ton of them just so that I could burn them all.

You don't fuck with a classic!

There was nothing wrong with the rainbow flag. The stripes didn’t represent races, ethnicity, gender or sexuality. So no need to change them. The trans flag is great and a nice addition to but not in lieu of the rainbow flag.

Apparently, we are no longer allowed to have our own flag, but MUST be subsumed into their paradigm

Do what you want. Doesn't mean that the rest of us need to follow .

Will we be TRANSPHOBIC unless we knuckle under because we don't know that Ts are LITERALLY DYING because we won't use their flag.

The rainbow pride flag is a very pretty, aesthetically pleasing design. No need to change it to that ugly mess.

R157 is wrong on all accounts and reading way too much into it.

R162 The sexless rainbow flag was commercialised at the same time as the sexless, gay-less alphabet-soup name.

[quote]It is called the “Progress Flag” now.

It is called the “Tranny Gay Erasure Flag” now.

No, it's the 'gays are eunuchs' flag.

Fake news, R148. Militant T started well before Trump with the military EO and the bathroom bill stuff happened when (again) the corporate appeasement crowd started with this third-way all-gender restroom shit.

You know, before they were just unisex bathrooms.

Then it filtered down into the school districts and everywhere else. No one just started “picking on” the trannies arbitrarily. But it is low hanging fruit for conservatives because every screeching T activist is basically a psychotic anarchist.

And again: the people taking the worst brunt of this backlash are GAY MEN since gay men are the known entity of the “LGBTQ+” movement. It started with gay liberation, gay pride, and gay rights, and now t’s have the Larry and Lindas wondering if we’re all perverted pedophiles again.

Bogeyman Republicans aren’t the ones causing public sentiment to be turned off LGBTQ+

The irony is Ts made bathrooms into some big cultural war issue. If they shut their damn mouth no one would have questioned none the wiser. It's also silly they choose that as the hill to die on in terms of their first outing of public activism.

[quote]There was nothing wrong with the rainbow flag. The stripes didn’t represent races, ethnicity, gender or sexuality. So no need to change them. The trans flag is great and a nice addition to but not in lieu of the rainbow flag.

This is actually the perfect solution in my opinion. Whoever wants to fly the new flag, fine, go for it, but the same for the original -- they should both be allowed to co-exist in our community and be accepted on equal ground. One should not be viewed as "legitimate" over the other and everybody can be happy.

Me personally, I'm sticking with the original.

[quote]There actually WAS a lesbian flag designed in 2010, but they kept arguing amongst themselves over the colors and design, so it never caught on.

It depicted a Subaru Outback and one Birkenstock rampant on a field of PBR cans.

[quote]This is actually the perfect solution in my opinion. Whoever wants to fly the new flag, fine, go for it, but the same for the original -- they should both be allowed to co-exist in our community and be accepted on equal ground. One should not be viewed as "legitimate" over the other and everybody can be happy.

That makes sense but in this nutcase cultural climate we're in, flying the original Pride flag will probably make you worse than Hitler. I would bet money that's what's going to happen.

I'm certain the old flag will be called "Trans Exclusionary" now.

Oh, just for the record I predicted the Trans Patriarchy obsession of correcting and overseeing other cultures' languages would persist and they have. I recently started seeing "Filipinx" in print, and not for laughs. They were referring to women both times. Feminine forms of nouns found in many languages need correcting and erasing, those cultures just weren't aware of how wrong they were, I guess.

[quote]It depicted a Subaru Outback and one Birkenstock rampant on a field of PBR cans.

But Bethany insisted on a dapper bowtie on a field of plaid, and they haven’t spoken since!

Sara models the lesbian flag...

The lesbian flag is raised fist on a flannel background.

I ignore all of these WOKE flags—

Honestly, I'm surprised the word "gay" hasn't become the new n-word. Just wait, that will happen soon enough.

R9 I don’t know, I’m on the fence on this one. It might be just me or my whacky mind, but when I look at it, I kinda see a big FU to the pride flag/LGBT people as the new part looks like it is trying to overtake the old part and push it out of the way. Maybe I just need more time to get used to it. Maybe it will be all fine in the end.

Using pink and blue for genders on the trans flag is so stereotypical. It is like a gender reveal party where blue = boys and pink = girls. A really bad way to represent gender.

There's no specific gay male flag or drag flag sadly.

[quote]Maybe I just need more time to get used to it.

Why should you?

Besides, it hasn’t been submitted to the Universal Pride Flag Committee yet.

As an asexual male, I can only be represented by an empty, useless flagpole with no actual flag on it.

This so-called "progress" flag is an act of hatred, bigotry, and asexual erasure.

I demand all pride and progress flags be removed and rehung every 30 minutes in a show of solidarity with the asexual community.

I thought the six-color original was visual cacophony, and I have never owned any rainbow merchandise. This new thing is silly looking, and nothing but an attack on gays and lesbians—this time a visual attack. You can have your own flag, Ts. Why do you want to parasite onto something already in existence.

SO creative!

To anyone that sincerely supports "queer" and transgender folx but does not support this abhorrent eyesore of a flag: I'm sorry. You're about to learn what the rest of us have already--on the woke train, you either accept enthusiastically each and every new "big-brained" ideas like this flag redesign or YOU are a BIGOT! I wish I could recommend that you talk to your more reasonable "woke" friends about your problems with this flag but you would very quickly find that for the crime of not supporting the new BLMTQIA++ flag you are one of the excommunicated nazis that you once yourself despised.

Until this woke train finally gets derailed we gays are in for a wild tiger ride, and there's no jumping off early due in large part to quisling gays who either can't or won't see what's obvious to a toddler.

R176 That's why one never sees a GAY Pride event anymore - its now just Pride.

[quote] I ignore all of these WOKE flags—

LMFAO imagine ANY straight person waving that "Straight ally" flag around. HAHAHA! All those flags are ugly, they look like the result of too much meth and tetris combined.

I'm just glad Paul Smith isn't alive to see R175.

I had a bad experience today on eBay. A package was supposed to be delivered, and it wasn't. I want an eBay/USPS victim flag.

r178 These people want to say they are breaking gender norms while perpetuating them in the worse way at the same time.

To some extent breaking gender norms does mean perpetuating them.

When a man puts on heels he's breaking norms.

That's not a pride flag. It's a minorities' alliance flag but where are the Asians?

This started as “we want our own flag.” But that wasn’t quite good enough, because no one but the trans community used that flag. So, someone decided the way to solve that little “problem” was to just attach it to the Pride flag, and browbeat everyone into accepting and using it or face the wrath of being labeled transphobic.

The beauty of the Pride flag Is its representation of everyone in the movement/community. Not sure why people think this nonsense will stop with the current redesign. Look at all those flags in the link at R175. What’s to stop every single one of those groups — and anyone else who happens to pop up — from demanding their piece of the field of the rainbow flag. Before long there won’t be any room left for a flag that was never intended to represent race or gender expression.

And, newsflash for the wokest of the woke among us: you can question aspects of the trans agenda, oppose gay men being erased from their own history, AND STILL NOT SUPPORT tRump.

Horrible change. The rainbow flag is fine just as it is, and is used to represent the "gay" community, and by "gay" I mean all of us, not down to the LGBTQRSUX letters that we are now using. It's enough.

This house in Liberty Street in Sydney is known colloquially as 'the sodomy house'.

(the entrance is around the back)

Is there a flag for chronic masturbators?

Yes, R174.

Oops, I meant that for R194.

I've never wanted to buy a rainbow flag in my life. Now I do, just so I can show these mentally ill assholes that we won't go down without a fight.

To think all this madness started as a role playing game disguised as science, created by a self-loathing butch lesbian with a grudge against all men who called her names in middle school is both jaw dropping and terrifying.

LGBT Flags are a great thing. Not only do you show your support for the LGBT Community in general but you also give a shout-out to one group within the LGBT Community that's close to your heart (and cock). Almost like a variation of the hanky code.

No this madness started in "Queer Studies" then evolved in Tumblr when all the teenagers used it to find friends.