Ruined my life

I'm a Pisces too hon...did you pause your video game to write this?

I told you so.

No shit throwing from me. I'm too sweet for that. Dude, you're human, you're fallible, you're not perfect. No one is so stop beating up on yourself for being human and making mistakes. We all make mistakes. You said you learned your lesson so keep that lesson in mind, look forward and not backward and keep going. Sometimes the best way to learn to walk is to fall down a few time.

Being bitter doesn't help. Look forward, not backward. Take an inventory of your skills and set some goals. Close the book on this part of your life and think about standing on your own feet.

OP, everyone makes mistakes. At least you recognize yours finally. Now is the time to stop wallowing in self pity and make a plan on how to go forward, independent of long term financial help from others.

[momentarily distracted by a minor annoyance]

“I’m sorry, you are...???”

[Reads post, shakes head in annoyance, returns to previous activity]

Modeling as a past-time supplemental job is fine. What are you doing for full-time employment?

If you served in Afghanistan you should still have the option to attend a college and advance your resume.

Financial transactions aren't a very good building block for a relationship, OP. If you are able to get over the emotional trauma of old, unattractive, perverted men manhandling you just so your friends will be jealous of your Birkin bag, more power to you, especially since those friends have disappeared. This realization has come at a great time as you've probably aged out of a sugar daddy's eyeline. Move to a new city, learn a trade and do wonderful things for the community.

No shade at trading looks for security. You couldn’t believe the older guys liked you for anything else - you knew it wasn’t love. They didn’t owe you anything - it was always their success not yours. You were the human equivalent of a shirt or car they bought & replaced. Had you focused on love instead of others bank accounts maybe someone would’ve been in your corner. Now grow up (mean this kindly) To rely on yourself isn’t a bad thing.

Was verificatia of sizemeat a requirement to obtain the support of your benefactors?

Your answer must provide visual evidence.

There's already been repeated thread after repeated thread on this OP. Why did you find it necessary to come here and start another? Why? Why OP? Can you give us an intelligent, honest answer? Can you? Why would you come here and post this kind of shit yet AGAIN when there have already been so many prior threads on this EXACT same subject. Do you really think this is that damned interesting that it warrants another entire thread to be started? DO YOU??

Why couldn't you have done a search first OP? That would have been the polite thing to do. What you demonstrated was just plain selfishness. You have shown that you don't think about anybody but yourself. It's all about you and your own satisfaction. Next time before you post, do us all a favor and do a search. We don't need another duplicate thread just because of your laziness.

you're young and stupid. now grow the fuck up!

He WAS young and stupid. Just need to lose the stupid now.

Post your nudes. We'll be the judge.

Can you find a job?

I bought stock in Delta.

Lesson: don't exploit elderly men for their money, OP.

Sorry you're in your situation. From the title of your thread and content it's content though, you seem to repeatedly blame everything and everyone else for your troubles. At what point do you realize your choices have a lot to do with your circumstances and no one "did anything` to ruin your life. Sounds like you knew what kind of game you were playing but it just didn't end up going how you thought it would. Hope things get better for you soon.

Some old men like to pay? Love can show up in many forms.

OP, I think your future lies in writing fiction.

Thanks for the support.

I am to blame too. I have guilt and feel nasty for actually liking the lifestyle. I have some remorse too.

I am also looking for a business guy in the New York area who would be willing to give me advice. I also do not know which college to apply to. CCNY is what I was looking at, but unsure. I really do not know what I am doing.

Is this Boston-Philly?

If you're not an E.S.T., save it for Seeking Arrangement.

If you’re in nyc go to cuny. What other option do you have. You’ll probably have to start at the community college level & work from there. What do you want to do with your life? Research it & go from there. Why don’t you know this? You said you gave up school for armed forces. So contact a career specialist for vets or talk to a cuny counselor. Looking for a biz man? For what? Stop with the older men shit. You are an older man. I also think this is fantasy but game to post - this or another Madonna post.

One last thing: Cuny places you after the entrance test - you don’t place yourself. But you’d know that having looked into it.

[quote] Lesson: don't exploit elderly men for their money, OP.

Oh, please.

I want to be a state trooper. Always have. That's what I was planning on doing but felt the military was better, then I got caught up in a crazy lifestyle.

I'm thinking of kinesiology.

You're a whore, darlin'.

Nothing wrong with that, but trade whining about what the johns have taken from them is too old and too familiar a story.

And ignore R3. Anyone bragging about being sweet ain't.

Did you "serve" in Afghcrapistan? Or get served?

The coronavirus has made bad decisions even worse.

The woman who rents the house across the street quit her retail job when her Father died and left her a small amount of money. When the money ran out she leached off her live in boyfriend's money (he had a job) until he died of alcoholism and drug use last December. She went through opiod and alcohol withdrawals and now can't find a job due to the virus. I think she is living off her elderly mother's money.

Things could be worst, OP. Good luck to you.

OP, set up an onlyfans account and put things in your asshole for money. You can wear sunglasses and a Covid mask for privacy so that way when you're a state trooper you won't have to worry about embarrassing videos coming back to haunt you.

I just need guidance.

OP = Prince Harry

OP is a whore who wants to live on easy street. you have an expiration date. Don't waste your youth on people unworthy of you...

many have given you advice on this thread.

nobody is gonna give you anything for free.

NOTHING IS FREE in this world.

(This is definitely an EST r23, they actually got caught in one of their old threads)

But I guess I should let people have their fun.

I'm 29. I was hoping I could connect with someone and discuss my career options more in depth. You guys always talk about how smart and sophisticated you are. I guess you are all talk.

You came to DL and expected to get practical life advice for your problems and DLs the problem? Pete on here can be smart and sophisticated without feeling sympathy for you or want to help you.

Can't you just find another sugar daddy?

TROLL POST / SOLICITATION

R31's post offers the most practical advice.

"Modeling" ....sure darlin'....

Collin...

Same old song. Looks fade, dumb is forever (to quote problematic fave Judge Judy).

You should develop some skills so you can be self-sufficient. There is something very fulfilling about being able to take care of yourself. And eventually, you are likely to age out of being a kept man.

[quote]I feel like a cheap whore.

That's logical, because that's what you are.

Advice: Get a job.

Shit happens, the good thing is you're learning to be independent now and not much later in life. Not everything is black and white. Don't beat yourself up or feel shame over trading on your attractiveness (many people do this, it doesn't make you a monster ) but don't fall into the trap of scapegoating the Dirty Old Men for all of your problems. No regrets, no blame just start moving on. Sign up for some online classes in your field of interest once they're available.

OP, you sound like another Andrew Cunanan!

Very good advice here. But I think that somebody told him DL would be a target rich environment for well off older men willing to spring for past their prime rent boys.

This is just one stop on the hunt.

Start stacking jewelry, hon. Diamonds are indeed a girls best friend. Gold and platinum rarely go down ,so thats an investment as well. But be quick about it,you've got about 5 more years at best (unless of course you are hung like a mule) . No one believes you want to "go straight" ,youre already ruined for life at your age.

Of course you’re a Pisces!

Gurl you gotta let the past go. A lot of people bullshitted around during their 20s. You can only go forward. If you don't want show your hole on Onlyfans like most guys in your position would do, you better look for a job.

If you are vet, you should seek government jobs as you can claim veterans preference. IIRC from your previous photos, you are still attractive and younger. You can continue using this to your benefit to get your foot in the door, and in ten years time you can work your way up.

And stop making us Pisces look bad. We have the best intuition and can practically see things before they happen. If people use you, you let them because we can see that shit coming.

Good you have learned that lesson sooner rather than later. You can't depend on anyone, no, not your family, not your partner, not your friends, no one. There's ultimately no one there for you but yourself.

Thoughts and prayers

Well, first I would reconsider the absolute need to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. You lived it, had fun - but now it's time to move on. NYC is tough for anyone WITH degrees and jobs.

Can you move back home or somewhere else? How do you expect to go to CUNY without any money or job?

Oh man, I can hear the pain...

Listen. You're capable of working through this. Maybe that means a job with no glamor and little pay for the moment, but selling your body was always only a temporary move.

Ask yourself what you NEED - rent, savings, solid support system of friends who respect you - and go out there and build it. No more sugar daddies. Cleaning a toilet feels less dirty than being their boy toy.

Definitely look into military oportunities, office jobs, etc.

You can be okay.

[QUOTE] Of course you’re a Pisces!

Thefuq R48? Why?

Is this the same guy who stole stuff off someone’s porch?

This could be Joel.

I think it’s a Dylan Geick parody post.

[Slams door and flounces out of the room]

Collin

Well at least you can admit what you did... regardless of your motives. And it sounds like you realized that others’ motives were neither good-natured or ultimately as benevolent as you would have appreciated.

I’ve never been a sugar daddy, and don’t have any plans to, but I am willing to lend support, strength and direction to someone who is genuinely looking for it.

If you want to pursue the trooper/police route, I remember there was a John Jay School of Law or something like that in NYC when I lived there. Seemed like a lot of aspiring cops went there. Also look into other forms of civil service: paramedic or firefighters, because they all run in the same circles and nothing beats making good professional contacts. He’ll, even being a dispatcher for 911 would be a start.

Was NYC home originally? Or you just don’t want to go elsewhere? Other smaller towns have more relaxed entry criteria and can serve as a place to really cut your teeth.

Finally, please do ignore the ignorami here calling for nudes, or pushing you to OnlyFans. Those are ridiculous options. If you’ve already been a kept man, why expand your audience from one to ....?

I wish you luck. Keep us posted on your journey, please.

OP you're young. You will learn that nobody is independent really. You have to rely on others, and just because you're not sleeping with them does not mean you are less dependent on others. Lest you think the rich are immune, they hire professionals every day who would steal their last dime if the opportunity presented.

R59 = creepy old man

Don’t give up.

I’m sure you’re still hot. Look for stable, not mega wealthy.

Trump and right wingers ruined my life.

OP, what if the tables were turned. What if one of your sugar daddies became broke and said, “I no longer have money to pay you.” Would you want to lavish attention for free? No, you wouldn’t.

"I feel like a cheap whore."

If you'd gotten enough cash out of those old men to see you through a downturn, at least you could feel like an expensive whore.

r61 = just wants OP to start an Onlyfans so he can see OP's hole!

I heard that CUNY is hard to get into for even the community college.

Ivanka says ‘try something new’!

Been reading the comments, thanks for the kind words. My step-dad was in the navy and we moved a lot- New Orleans, San Diego, Annapolis, and Fort Worth before he passed away. My mom did not have a ton of money after that, so I sent her some cash once a month. Those guys knew her situation. I'm really not a bad guy. My life has never been stable. LOL.

I am scared of going into the police force because of the riots, hatred, and the defund the police movements that are going on. What can you do with kinesiology besides coach or train? Work at Starbucks?

As a Pisces, I sense it coming, and you know it is wrong, but i do it anyways. Would anybody want to chat in private off here? No ulterior motives.

OP gets 5/10 -- mostly for accurately attributing his stunted development and lack of self-esteem to being a Pisces.

Another whiner who didn't learn "life isn't fair" when he should've, before he entered first grade.

You’re not a victim. You are the sum of YOUR choices. No one made you do anything. Take responsibility for your own life. Do not rely on others. Grow a pair.

Well I had an interview at Starbucks yesterday and the manager called me to say I got it.

I think he hired me for my looks because he was definitely flirting hardcore while interviewing me. He added me on FB too because “he likes to be friends with employees “

If you’ve become a cheap whore, just raise your price.

Good for you Collin. Hopefully you can get yourself on a better course now.

And one last post of positivity - at least you're waking up to this at 29. Believe it or not, many people in your situation don't wake up to this reality until they are 35 or 40.

You are still young and can turn this around. At 40? Not so much.

29 is a good age to get a fresh start. It's still very probable you'll be able to see yourself through this. But, as we don't fully know your current situation - money, housing, employment, education - it's difficult to give you too much advice.

But I will stand by my comment above - NYC is not the place to start over unless you have family or friends in the area to rely on. You need to move to a more affordable area with a lot less competition for everything - jobs, men, housing.

NYC is great - but you haven't really made it there. You relied on others, so don't think that you can or have to stay in NYC - that's a big trap.

R73 - Collin - I'm hoping your FB page doesn't have anything too inappropriate.

To me, I would not share my personal FB account with my boss - they're able to see way too much and they don't need that info.

I don't think that's a great idea.

[quote] I feel like a cheap whore.

I wonder why!

Get one of these Op & go after the s.&m daddies

Dude, you are a 29 year old barista at Starbucks now. You had a nice run being a cheap slut.

I hope you get fat and lose your looks.

R77 the worst thing on my FB page is shirtless pictures on the lake or beach. Most of the time I share memes or funny comments.

r76 I hate NYC because I;m broke. I loved it when I had a nice lifestyle.

R80 your jealous

Today was my first day as a trainee. The manager likes to get close to me. Every man in a suit is a jerk in NYC. Who orders black coffee at Starbucks anyways..

[quote]Who orders black coffee at Starbucks anyways

Indeed! I get an Americano.

You need to change your perception of yourself as a victim first and foremost. Also stop thinking of past mistakes. Acknowledge and learn from them, now move on.

29 is still young enough to go back to school and start a career. But why kinesiology though? I know 2 RNs whose first degree were in kinesiology, another 2 with degrees in psychology and they all went back to get bachelor’s degree in nursing. They make over $150k a year in California working as RNs. It’s not a cushy career but it pays well plus they work 36 hours/ 3 days a week. If you want you can get advanced degrees in nursing that allows more freedom, responsibilities, and pay. That was what I did.

Work your cafe job, think of it as a steppingstone to better things and don’t feel down or get into drama with asshole colleagues and customers. I worked at Peet’s Coffee as a barista while I was in college. No shame in working service jobs.

"Today was my first day as a trainee. The manager likes to get close to me."

Honey, if a Starbucks manager thinks he can get some, you are in danger of actually becoming a cheap whore!

R84 is correct, take this as a lull in your life, the moment where you just quietly work at an ordinary job and think about what to do next. What do you want to do, what's likely to earn you a living, where do you want to go next? Because it sounds like yeah, the New York party years are over, and new horizons beckon. Do you want to go to school, do you want to work, did any of those old men give you anything with resale value and which might help the next step along? If so, start seeing what you can get for your toys.

You're 29. Trust me your life is NOT ruined. Time to turn over a new leaf.

So! You're a Pisces! Lets talk about that! Fascinating!

[quote]Who orders black coffee at Starbucks anyways

#BlackCoffeesMatter

Only fans is always hiring

r24 gave good advice, although I think there were mass layoffs at CUNY recently of adjuncts (don't know how that would affect you). I wouldn't trust career advisors at a community college necessarily. Instead, I'd get advice from groups that work with vets-- not random "businessmen" on the internet. There's no shame in going to community college. It's actually a really good idea.

Young man, send me your shirtless photos from the lake or beach and I will be happy to add you to my prayer group. I fear you are about to create workplace drama with that Starbucks manager and I would like to save you from that path which is certain to lead you into the fires of hell.

Go to grass!

R61 = a. What’re you going to do when your unemployment checks stop coming Chulo?

OP start a new thread & a new story! I like the innocent whore storyline but the coffee house turn of event is a let down. Maybe you move to a small town & everyone wants to fuck you - start with the cable man or the landlord. Something like that.

Have you looked to Meghan Markle for inspiration?

R94 Don't worry, things move quickly - he had an interview,callback and first day of work all within 48 hours and he is already feeling jaded with the customers. Stick around, I'm sure there will be a new story arc soon .

It’s funny that Gen-X peeps worked shitty service jobs in their time yet they rarely featured as aggrieved whiners against every perceived slights from asshole customers. They tended to find humor in it or brush it off so they could go back to slacking it with their work friends. Whereas now it’s time to break out the phone or go on Twitter to express outrage and indignation, how dare they! don’t they know I should get a Go Fund Me started because I had to deal with asshole customers today?!

R96 I had the job interview lined up weeks ago. They were short staffed and needed help quick. You guys treat me like I am hooker with the plague.

r98 Well, we'd be half-right.

R98 Keep in mind this is where biatches congregate to bitch.

The Starbucks job is a good step forward.

Don't let the bastards drag you down.

It's just pointless bitchery, OP, don't take it to heart.

Like I said, take this regular job as an breathing space, take some time to think about what you want to do next, and where you want to go. Because the whoring was fun while it lasted, but the party's over, and it's time to do a bit of growing up.

Gee, what a story! Everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at his rear end.

I encourage any of you who are hiding behind DL to send me a private message. I will be waiting.

OP, all that you are saying is that you aged. It happens.

You should have saved all this time those rich daddies where throwing money your way. Did you at least made them buy you expensive jewelry ? Did you get to fuck hot guys?

Embrace the change, keep the good memories, and embrace your new life.

[quote]I encourage any of you who are hiding behind DL to send me a private message. I will be waiting.

If you think that's something that can be done on DL, you're not bright enough to work at Starbucks.

[quote]hiding behind DL to send me a private message.

Honey, this is your private message. There are no secrets around us.

Kik is tomboy2991

You guys are pansies. I bet none of you will do it. This is very dramatic- you all love it

You're eventually going to have to quit adding "boy" to all of your profile names. And what's with "tomboy", are you a lez?

OP is the KIK troll, now I remember you OP.

You have tried to whore out with eldergays in other occasions. Well, I salute your determination and I hope you finally land a rich daddy that can make your life easier.

or you can get a job, I mean...either way I salute you.

R109 I have a job at Starbucks now. I am just trying to see how many of you would actually say this stuff to my face.

Dude, if you are really hot, an engaging conversationalist and present your self in a reserved manner, you don't have to put out to have rich guys throw money at you. You sound like a decent guy you just need be smart about keeping a sugar daddy. Haha I had one for 10 years that was younger than me. He pretty much gave me his Palm Springs house.

Anyone who doesn't realize Collinboy is a failed creative writer and troll deserves the grease fire life has in store for them.

There's a proper forum for real whores in the OP's situation and it's not Datalounge. A truly hot guy with an ad on Seeking Arrangement would have all the "conversation" and "guidance" he needed already.

In other words, OP'S A TROLL, SUCKERS!

[quote]You guys treat me like I am hooker with the plague.

Nah, we treat you like a lying troll here to create drama and giggle at the responses. You've already been caught in multiple lies, so it's not like anyone here is going to take you seriously.

You do realize we can see your posting history, right?

R110 i would OP but your beauty will make me want to fuck you. Unless i have to wait to long for my coffee.

"I am just trying to see how many of you would actually say this stuff to my face. "

Sweetie, you're not really that interesting.