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Jennifer Lopez

I’ve always found her very dulll and am mystified by her fame. She’s hot but many are hotter, she can dance but so can a lot of women. She’s not even trashy and amusing like some stars just completely bland. How and why is she so famous?

by Anonymousreply 255Last Wednesday at 5:50 AM

You are an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 107/12/2020

She gives good head and her vagina is always wide open for anyone who can give her career a boost.

That'll get you quite far in the business.

by Anonymousreply 207/12/2020

Yet here you are, opening a thread on her so people can discuss her.

by Anonymousreply 307/12/2020

R3 = J Ho fan.

I agree OP, she should have been over years ago. She’s only famous because Hispanics worship her.

by Anonymousreply 407/12/2020

Her singing is soooo bad. Madonna gets so much shit for being a "bad" singer yet J Lo is SO tone deaf. Someone wrote about having to teach her to sing and they said she was completely tone deaf when she attempted to do "do re mi fa so". The only reason she is STILL famous is because she has the novelty of being an "ethnic" woman who still looks good for her age. Once the wrinkles set in, she'll be thrown to the wolves. I can't wait.

by Anonymousreply 507/12/2020

Latin thing. Timing.

by Anonymousreply 607/12/2020

Well actually, I liked her early movies. Could take or leave her music.

But since she has her own thread. Let's get LOUD, eh.

I thought she was really easy to like in the carpool karoke.

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by Anonymousreply 707/12/2020

She was more natural looking when she was Janet’s back up dancer.

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by Anonymousreply 807/12/2020

She’s excellent in “Out Of Sight” with Clooney.

Other than that, I don’t know her.

by Anonymousreply 907/12/2020

This video has is too hot. They guy...jlo... omg

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by Anonymousreply 1007/12/2020

Before they crossed over.

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by Anonymousreply 1107/12/2020

r5, you might have a long wait because she is already 50 and still looks good.

by Anonymousreply 1207/12/2020

R12, I know. God damn. But usually with older people, they hit a point where it looks like they fell off a cliff. I'm waiting desperately for tha t day.

by Anonymousreply 1307/12/2020

lol what's funny is shes not even ethnic.

shes a white latina.

But yeah, she's talentless for sure .

by Anonymousreply 1407/12/2020

Nobody white considers her white...

by Anonymousreply 1507/12/2020

Many Latinos would be considered white in their home countries but they aren't here. America can be so weird in how they classify people. You can be both white AND latino.

by Anonymousreply 1607/12/2020

She is a great entertainer, her Superbowl halftime show spectacular!

by Anonymousreply 1707/12/2020

Her longevity is confusing and undeserved. She fucked her way to the top and/or she looks good for her age.

by Anonymousreply 1807/12/2020

R15 is Matt Damon still jealous Ben gave her the first dick he sucked and got off.

by Anonymousreply 1907/12/2020

I was in college when I heard her on the radio for the first time singing “If You Had My Love.” And for some reason, I clearly remember at that moment thinking how awful that song was and how weak and shallow her voice was. She elicited such a negative reaction from me and nothing has changed since then. Except that now she looks like a tranny with menopausal spread.

by Anonymousreply 2007/12/2020

J Lo really is like that woman from that Seinfeld whose face looks different depending on the angle. Sometimes she looks really feminine and other times she looks manly. I've notice a lot of Puerto Rican woman have that same quality!

by Anonymousreply 2107/12/2020

r14, she isn't a white latina, she is a triquena. If you don't know what that is google it.

I give her props because she made a great career as a mediocre singer and actress. I can't fault her for that, it's a bit impressive.

She's also a great mother.

by Anonymousreply 2207/12/2020

R22, Really, J Lo is part black? Never would have thought that.

by Anonymousreply 2307/12/2020

I hate the way she always has to have an extended dance sequence in her music videos. Her dancing isn't that great, yet she seems to have this weird need to prove to us she's good.

It's like she's acknowledging that she's a shitty singer and is hoping we'll get distracted by the bumping and grinding and clunky steps.

by Anonymousreply 2407/12/2020

r23, do you not know anything about Puerto Rican history?

Obviously not. Nor do you care.

by Anonymousreply 2507/12/2020

I think she's a great dancer, better than all the other pop ladies, even Beyonce. Here's what I don't get about her. She always gets a spot performing on award shows. Usually only artists with current hit songs or legends get to perform. She's in neither of those categories yet she's always popping up on award shows dancing and lip-syncing away.

by Anonymousreply 2607/12/2020

R26, see R2 for your answer.

by Anonymousreply 2707/12/2020

[quote] do you not know anything about Puerto Rican history? Obviously not. Nor do you care.

Correct, I do not.

by Anonymousreply 2807/12/2020

There is nothing bland or boring about Jlo. The OP is delusional; even if you don't like her "art". It is fact; there is nothing bland about her. She is the walking embodiment of NY glamor. She's a beautiful New Yorican woman who still looks like she's 30. She has mad charisma too; always has. I think her music, with handful of exceptions, suck. I think her films, with a handful of exceptions, suck. But somethings just are. There is nothing pedestrian about this broad.

by Anonymousreply 2907/12/2020

I’m still mystified by Jennifer Aniston’s appeal.

by Anonymousreply 3007/12/2020

[quote]I think she's a great dancer, better than all the other pop ladies

Ahem...

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by Anonymousreply 3107/12/2020

I loved her in the movie Hustlers. I wonder if her personality is actually like that of her character. Probably not :(

by Anonymousreply 3207/12/2020

She seems pretty trashy to me....

by Anonymousreply 3307/12/2020

I don’t care what you bitches think JLo be sexy!

by Anonymousreply 3407/12/2020

She old.

When she no know she old.

Vieja puta loca

by Anonymousreply 3507/12/2020

Must be nearly 30 years ago that she was a Fly Girl on In Living Color

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by Anonymousreply 3607/12/2020

She owes her career to dead Selena.

by Anonymousreply 3707/12/2020

[Quote] She's also a great mother.

That I find hard to believe.

by Anonymousreply 3807/12/2020

I think she is very likable. She seems to be a good sport about things. I also like her look. Very sexy.

by Anonymousreply 3907/12/2020

Menopause is not sexy.

by Anonymousreply 4007/12/2020

She is two months older than me and looks fucking AMAZING!

by Anonymousreply 4107/12/2020

She’s 51 and still trying to dress like a stripper. It’s getting embarrassing now. She’s literally old enough to be a grandma.

by Anonymousreply 4207/12/2020

She cannot sing. She can barely act. But she knows how to package her limited gifts. She strikes me as being a cunt first class. Didn’t she sleep with one of the Wayans Brothers to get a spot as a dancer on their comedy show?

by Anonymousreply 4307/12/2020

She was really good in some of her early films - Out of Sight especially. But I never understood her strange compulsion to make mediocre pop music.

by Anonymousreply 4407/12/2020

Her music was very commercially successful for a time - Wikipedia says her first 3 albums sold a combined 24 million copies - but it guaranteed she’d never be taken seriously as an actor. And really, she didn’t seem to take herself very seriously for a while. But she’s very good in “Out of Sight” and I also liked her in “Maid in Manhattan.”

by Anonymousreply 4507/13/2020

Not a bad actress really but must admit I was glad she didn't get her Oscar nod this year. Seemed like a cheap film.

My problem with her was always the fur thing -- not just that she'd wear it but that she'd be a bitch about it in her designs, etc. And mink eyelashes,, talk about trashy. So never really could root for her.

by Anonymousreply 4607/13/2020

She was robbed and discriminated against when she didn't get an Oscar nomination.

by Anonymousreply 4707/13/2020

She's always rubbed me the wrong way. I don't see her as particularly talented or attractive, though she makes a great impression on the red carpet. I feel she has a very outsize ego.

by Anonymousreply 4807/13/2020

R16

I am white and latina.

Well, my mother is German.

Well, my family name is Spanish.

by Anonymousreply 4907/13/2020

R49, Courtney Love refered to herself as a "Jewban" (Jewish Cuban) on howard Stern.

by Anonymousreply 5007/13/2020

JLo has a large butt set atop stumpy, spindly legs. Unimpressed by her so called beauty.

by Anonymousreply 5107/13/2020

It's very obvious J.Lo has Native American ancestry; the bone structure gives it away. And yeah, I always assumed she had a little bit of black in her as well.

I found her stunningly beautiful in her early movies - Blood & Wine, U-Turn, Anaconda. But something about her face changed around the time she started dating Ben Affleck. Not sure if it was age or subtle plastic surgery. She also changed her whole style and the way she does her make-up. There's no denying she looks great for her age, and not drastically different from her early years, but I just don't see 'it' in her anymore, and her atrocious taste is extremely off-putting to me.

by Anonymousreply 5207/13/2020

R52, I think she made her cheek bones more prominent. Which makes her look more manly depending on what angle you see her.

by Anonymousreply 5307/13/2020

It could also be the make-up that makes her look different (apart from a bit of botox and filler which 99.99% of celebrities her age have). I know she's rumoured to have had a nosejob, but looking at side-to-side comparisons, I don't really see it.

Anyway, she needs to fire whoever has been doing her make-up since the early 2000s. 99 percent of the time she wears the wrong colors, and her lips always look like she drank hot chocolate and forgot to wipe her mouth afterwards.

by Anonymousreply 5407/13/2020

r38, open yourself up to her.

Later Emme sings at the superbowl.

We know that Emme knows she is her mother's favorite.

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by Anonymousreply 5507/13/2020

Cute video R55. I don’t care what you guys say I love Jell-O!

by Anonymousreply 5607/13/2020

She’s got grit.

by Anonymousreply 5707/13/2020

She seems very down to earth in interviews and such but I wonder if that’s all for show. You don’t get to the top in the entertainment business by being nice!

by Anonymousreply 5807/14/2020

According to many who have worked with her, she is a cunt, so yes, I'd say it's all for sure.

by Anonymousreply 5907/14/2020

R58 Don't I know it!

by Anonymousreply 6007/14/2020

I’ve heard she’s a nice person when you talk to her but is ruthless when needed. Which is probably true of 99% of “nice” celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 6107/14/2020

She dumped P. Diddy as soon as she could and moved over to Ben Affleck. Straight up user.

by Anonymousreply 6207/15/2020

R62 Didn't you love the way she glommed onto Diddy, trying to create a "street" image? Then when and Diddy got arrested for fleeing the scene of a shooting, she had an "Oh, shit, this isn't the way I want my career to go" moment, and immediately dumped Diddy for the white boy Oscar winner from Boston and reinvented herself as America's sweetheart.

by Anonymousreply 6307/15/2020

R62 Nope. She left P Diddy for the backup dancer Cris Judd, who she then married. She subsequently cheated on Judd with Affleck.

If you’re gonna talk shit, get the timeline right.

by Anonymousreply 6407/15/2020

R64 Her vagina stopped for a brief stretching session with Judd before it moved on to Affleck.

by Anonymousreply 6507/15/2020

The misogyny on here is out of this world. I think she can act in the right role- she was amazing in Hustlers. I think she works hard too and comes across as likable.

by Anonymousreply 6607/15/2020

R66 I think she can act in the right hole.

by Anonymousreply 6707/15/2020

Hey you guys, I’m still Jenny from the block!

by Anonymousreply 6807/15/2020

She's not my cup of tea but I agree she can act in a role that plays to her strengths.

I can't name one of her songs but she's an icon, a household word.

by Anonymousreply 6907/15/2020

Whatever became of her one-time husband and father of her children, Marc "Skeletor" Anthony?

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by Anonymousreply 7007/15/2020

R70 she sucked him dry then bit off his head. 🐜

by Anonymousreply 7107/15/2020

What did she ever see in Marc Anthony & Chris Judd?

by Anonymousreply 7207/15/2020

Her biggest talent was self-promotion, then knowing who to attach herself to at the right time, then being hot, then acting, then singing in dead last. It’s crazy to say she’s untalented, as she was super amazing at the first three things on that list.

by Anonymousreply 7307/15/2020

She came on the scene at the right time, kind of like Julia Roberts in the nineties. Her fame is a result of timing, her willingness to work extremely hard and excellent management. Benny Medina is to thank for her career. The acclaim for Hustlers was bought by Medina, as was the Superbowl performance.

Her music career is a sham and everyone knows it. She stole vocals from black female artists, didn't give them credit and was never once called out for it. That proves how powerful Medina is. Stealing vocals and that cringe-wrothy Movieline interview she did at the start of her career is why she'll never be nominated for or win an award voted on by her peers. Nobody likes her.

To her credit, she's got a strong work ethic. She shows up, knows her lines, doesn't shit on the crew (much) and gets the job done. Nobody can ever call her lazy or entitled. She's worked hard for what she has. She just got a lot of opportunities by stepping on other people.

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by Anonymousreply 7407/15/2020

I also meant to add that she's extremely savvy. See: Bennifer. She knows what will serve her and what will hurt her. That's why she ditched Criss Judd and Marc Anthony. Her relationships are career moves more than anything else.

by Anonymousreply 7507/15/2020

She should have stuck to and worked on her acting skills because that's where she showed the most promise. I think trying to be a pop star took years away where she could have been really developing as an actor.

by Anonymousreply 7607/15/2020

R74 said: “She just got a lot of opportunities by stepping on other people. ”. Isn’t that how most of the A-Listers get to the A-list? Hollywood and the music business are EXTREMELY competitive!

by Anonymousreply 7707/15/2020

Fuck off r64...who cares if the timeline is wrong? You make a pitiful hall monitor.

by Anonymousreply 7807/15/2020

I think of her as similar to Sharon Stone. Not really that talented, but sometimes picks a great project. And she's charismatic, glamorous, and always garners attention when she shows up on a red carpet.

by Anonymousreply 7907/15/2020

What r29 and r42 said.

A long while back, Lopez wore a yellow gold dress to the Oscars that covered her. She actually looked much younger than when she reveals too much.

She's astoundingly beautiful and a hell of a performer. That Super Bowl performance was amazing.

Beauty, performance skills and sheer, raw "the Four Ds", however masks her lack of talent, not that I mind.

by Anonymousreply 8007/15/2020

I love this song and video. I think she looks really awesome in it!

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by Anonymousreply 8107/15/2020

Auto tuned within an inch of her life.

by Anonymousreply 8207/15/2020

santeria

by Anonymousreply 8307/15/2020

You all are forgetting bubble butter dancer Casper Smart, who was her fuck partner for quite a while there after Marc Anthony and before A-Rod.

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by Anonymousreply 8407/15/2020

*bubble-butted

by Anonymousreply 8507/15/2020

[Quote] who was her fuck partner

Was he?? All I see is gay face.

by Anonymousreply 8607/15/2020

Maybe she wanted to experiment with lesbianism?

by Anonymousreply 8707/15/2020

She and Casper were definitely an item for quite some time. He was her choreographer and they went to many red carpets together. He broke up with her, from what I remember, and is with some other chick nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 8807/15/2020

r72, she married Marc Anthony to have his kids because she wanted them to be able to sing.

He was obsessed with her for a long time, back in NYC and they were just friends. See the clip at r11. She realized she needed children, he had 4 already I think. (He has six in total) and she broke it off with Affleck and he left his wife for her.

But he cheated. He's a cheater and control freak. I love his music. She will say, Emme got her father's voice. That is what she wanted. She's a hustler, I can't fault her for that.

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by Anonymousreply 8907/15/2020

It's terrible from the navel, down.

Short legs and enormous fat thighs and behind.

She looks like a fertility prehistoric monster.

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by Anonymousreply 9007/15/2020

without makeup

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by Anonymousreply 9107/15/2020

Without hair and with extensions.

by Anonymousreply 9207/16/2020

Jlo was a bitch to ARod's ex who was fighting to keep her child support payments intact. ARod wanted to reduce the child support.

by Anonymousreply 9307/16/2020

very good publicist, spends a fortune on publicity .....she is a talentless fug....

perhaps she hoochi cooed alot to get there....the bottom of the top tier

by Anonymousreply 9407/16/2020

She’s rotten...rotten to the core.

by Anonymousreply 9507/16/2020

This is still her best hit.

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by Anonymousreply 9607/16/2020

R91, she looks really masculine there.

by Anonymousreply 9707/16/2020

The fact white girls always play her mother in movies says all you need to know about this cunt. The only one who tried to be more white than her was MJ.

by Anonymousreply 9807/16/2020

Her abnormally fat ass is so gross. How could anyone think that's attractive?

by Anonymousreply 9907/16/2020

R99, ask the Kardashians, they wrote the book on that one.

by Anonymousreply 10007/16/2020

R100 And it looks gross on them, too. I just don't get it. Then again, I'm not into women.

by Anonymousreply 10107/16/2020

[Quote]enormous fat thighs and behind.

Blacks and Latinos love that type of feature.

by Anonymousreply 10207/16/2020

Not all blacks and Latinos.

by Anonymousreply 10307/16/2020

It’s so weird how skinny the bottom part of her legs are compared to the top. Looks like roast turkey legs.

by Anonymousreply 10407/16/2020

Yes, her legs are ugly.

by Anonymousreply 10507/16/2020

Oh please, Janet Jackson was writing the book on having a curvaceous ass back when JLo and the Kardashians were preening in front of mirrors while still living with mommy and daddy. Her Pleasure Principle video (which was the first time her ass in tight pants was prominently displayed in a video) was the reason Jennifer got into show biz. Jennifer admitted this on Janet’s MTV Icon special.

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by Anonymousreply 10607/16/2020

R106 Janet's ass wasn't NEARLY as hugely fat as J-Lo's. It was a meaty booty, to be sure, but it had shape to it and it wasn't just a gigantic piece of lard sticking out.

by Anonymousreply 10707/16/2020

The Kardashian ass is a monstrosity. Janet's was not.

by Anonymousreply 10807/16/2020

STFU, Janbot. No one gives a fuck about Janet. She belongs in the 80s, when she was relevant.

by Anonymousreply 10907/16/2020

I bet R109 was fuming when Janet was still making hit records and winning awards all throughout the 90s and the 2000s.

Here’s another tid bit for ya...for a time, she was J-Lo’s employer.

by Anonymousreply 11007/16/2020

J Lo is a cunt the size of the solar system. Who gives a fuck about that cunt.

by Anonymousreply 11107/16/2020

Same for me. Her, Gwyneth Paltrow, Mariah Carey, Kate Hudson and Jennifer Aniston are just so plain, boring and vanilla to me.

by Anonymousreply 11207/16/2020

Jenifer Lopez is and always will the best representation that anyone can be famous if they want it bad enough.

And she did. She is the ultimate hustler. She willed herself to fame and glory without having the talent of her now peers.

She is ambition personified.

by Anonymousreply 11307/16/2020

R109 created a thread mentioning that he's never known much love in his life. That's pretty apparent.

by Anonymousreply 11407/16/2020

R113 Fuck J-Lo! I wore adult diapers on TV, for fuck's sake!

by Anonymousreply 11507/16/2020

R114 Fuck off, Janbot. Nice try.

by Anonymousreply 11607/16/2020

She is persistent and fame driven and has had incredible plastic surgery. That’s all I got.

by Anonymousreply 11707/16/2020

[quote]She willed herself to fame and glory without having the talent of her now peers.

Willed or fucked her way to glory?

by Anonymousreply 11807/16/2020

R118 I'm sure some of the men she fucked to get glory took all of her will to get through.

by Anonymousreply 11907/16/2020

Imagine, a mediocre singer aspiring to be like another mediocre singer.

by Anonymousreply 12007/16/2020

R120, that's today's pop music in a nutshell. " I want to sound just like Halsey when I grow up!!!". You do you, little skank.

by Anonymousreply 12107/16/2020

Hahahaha r121, so true.

by Anonymousreply 12207/16/2020

R122, seriously, it's sad. A yahoo article a few months ago there was an article that claimed Halsey is "one of the biggest pop stars in the world". I have no clue what country in the world that article was referring to.

by Anonymousreply 12307/16/2020

We have this same discussion on Jennifer Lopez all the time. Like someone said, she is incredibly driven and ambitious. She also happened to come along at the exact right time and with the right people. All those things are needed to be a big star. Tommy Mottola, Benny Medina, Puff Daddy and Irv Gotti engineered an unstoppable music career for her just as America was infatuated by Latino pop stars. She added her own spice to it and she became a pop culture icon.

by Anonymousreply 12407/16/2020

[quote][R114] Fuck off, Janbot. Nice try.

Still suicidal, asshole?

by Anonymousreply 12507/16/2020

Janbot can always be counted on to stank up any thread.

by Anonymousreply 12607/16/2020

The Janbot is hilarious. Hon Janet is not or has ever been a better dancer than her former employee. Janet has NEVER done anything close to what both JLo and Shakira did in that SB performance. She flashed a a tittie in hers instead.

by Anonymousreply 12707/16/2020

R99 what are you talking about?? Her ass looks normal compared to the monstrosity that is the Kardashians.

by Anonymousreply 12807/16/2020

Natural beauty!

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by Anonymousreply 12907/16/2020

R127 Truth. Most 80s dancing is weak and amateur compared to recently. Even the two famous Jackson's 80s dancing is super embarrassing by modern standards. There were very few professional dancers in that pop era.

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by Anonymousreply 13007/16/2020

She looks like a normal 50ish woman without makeup.

by Anonymousreply 13107/16/2020

R130 thanks for posting 😆

by Anonymousreply 13207/16/2020

[quote]Hon Janet is not or has ever been a better dancer than her former employee

LOL, you stupid cow. Jennifer's pussy-popping at the SB reeked of try-hardness. I thought I'd seen it all when she slipped during her performance of "Louboutins" at the AMAs several years ago (seen below), but lo and behold, there was more. She is inspired by Janet, and that is ALL.

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by Anonymousreply 13307/16/2020

Janet was NEVER a good dancer. Jennifer is a trained dancer and Shakira who is not still managed to be way more professional looking then Janet has ever looked. Regardless of the amount of takes on a music video. But I guess if you are going by the two steps and shuffle of Rhythm Nation as professional us sane people don't know how to talk to you. And I'm not even a JLo fan. Bad singer, decent actress, good dancer. Janet=decent singer, below average dancer, horrible actress. Though I liked her in Poetic Justice. But it had nothing to do with her acting non skills.

by Anonymousreply 13407/16/2020

She’s talented at being a show person - can’t sing really but put her on stage and she brings it! I think her dancing style is a bit odd...lots of aggressive flailing of limbs and jerks of the head and neck. I need a hot pad and a chiropractor appointment just watching her.

by Anonymousreply 13507/16/2020

This Mexican lady is not very Best. Not at all!

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by Anonymousreply 13607/16/2020

[quote]Janet was NEVER a good dancer

That there was enough to render whatever the rest of that pointless drivel you posted null and void.

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by Anonymousreply 13707/16/2020

I have nothing against Janet. But all those moves are quite ordinary and require as much choreography as a Brittney or Madonna video. I don't wanna be taking up for JLo because I can't stand the bitch. But she is an actual dancer.

by Anonymousreply 13807/16/2020

[quote]...Janet=decent singer...

Hahahahaha...now tell me the one about Goldilocks and the three bears.

by Anonymousreply 13907/17/2020

Eat shit and die

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by Anonymousreply 14007/17/2020

R140 LOL

by Anonymousreply 14107/17/2020

JLo is trash

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by Anonymousreply 14207/17/2020

Honestly, Shakira is more interesting and deserving of her own thread than anyone else mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 14307/17/2020

Okay. Not my argument, but I'm going to butt in anyway. Now, you're just being ridiculous. You can't take away Janet Jackson's talent for dance. The moves are one thing, but the way they're delivered/executed is another. Janet had a smooth, confident, cute and sassy delivery. Don't be a dumb-ass. She was an awesome dancer.

1987

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by Anonymousreply 14407/17/2020

^Precisely. Janet is THE icon of the dancing pop divas, and she has been since the '80s not only for her iconic dance moves, but because she's effortless at it. Women who are pop icons today (JLo included) grew up inspired by her and still try to imitate her stage presence. Even Ciara, who is self-professed Janet stan and is considered by some to be the best dancer out of the current crop of female pop/R&B artists, has praised Janet's dancing.

by Anonymousreply 14507/17/2020

[quote]all those moves are quite ordinary and require as much choreography as a Brittney or Madonna video

Honey, Britney or Madonna could never do what Janet did in the Pleasure Principle video.

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by Anonymousreply 14607/17/2020

LOL R140.

by Anonymousreply 14707/17/2020

You're being Rickrolled! This Rick Ghastly vid from 1987 shows the contrast between an awesome professional dancer - the sexy black guy bartender - and a horrible Janet level non dancer in Rick himself. The black guy is trained, professional, athletic, in just 20 seconds he blew away every dance Janet ever feigned to perform EVER. The black guy's sexiness, charisma, flexibility, delivery. Flawless.

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by Anonymousreply 14807/17/2020

R144 Janet's lip synching (she never could sing live) in that horrible clip is "proof" that she is a legit dancer. Your mama musta had nothing but paint chips in her tits, my dear. Nothing in that clip provides evidence of being a good, professionally trained, flexible, charismatic dancer. It is just lame amateur arms flailing desperately and trying to fake it till you make it. Even Paula Abdul, a limited dancer, had more legit moves than Janet.

by Anonymousreply 14907/17/2020

If you’re a Leo, a narcissist, a ho and a hard worker, you can make it in Hollywood. Ask Jlo, ask Madge!

by Anonymousreply 15007/17/2020

Get a load of Isadora FUCKIN' Duncan at R149

by Anonymousreply 15107/17/2020

R151 Fuck off Janbot, no one likes you.

by Anonymousreply 15207/17/2020

Shut the fuck up, cunt R152 before I have my body guard stuff your mouth shut with 12 inches of limp dick!

by Anonymousreply 15307/17/2020

[quote]clip is "proof" that she is a legit dancer

I couldn't have said it better myself!

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by Anonymousreply 15407/17/2020

I think Madonna was much better than Janet as an artist in almost every conceivable way but dancing? No, Janet was much, much better.

by Anonymousreply 15507/17/2020

R154 One of the things about Paula Abdul choreography is that it's choreography for non-dancers. Lots of cheerleader-like hand movements and simple footwork that someone with rhythm, stage presence, and a little bit of pizazz can turn into something that wows.

Janet could do that. She had just enough talent to make Abdul's choreography pop. But I still wouldn't call Miss Jackson a "dancer."

J-Lo has had dance training and can execute the trickier moves, but she's also clunky and clumsy. So while she's studied dance, she's not very good at interpreting it or making it look smooth and lively.

So it's really six of one and half a dozen of the other when it comes to comparing Janet and J-Lo as dancers.

by Anonymousreply 15607/17/2020

R156, who in pop music would you consider a great dancer then, someone like Ciara? Genuinely asking here.

by Anonymousreply 15707/17/2020

R157 I wouldn't look to anyone in pop music for examples of great dancers. I'd look at actual dancers.

by Anonymousreply 15807/17/2020

Another example of 80s non-existent dancing. Jesus, why did they even bother? Of course all us ole queens love The Pointer Sisters but the dancing. Total shit.

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by Anonymousreply 15907/17/2020

R159 This is the type of choreography they do in high school show choirs.

by Anonymousreply 16007/17/2020

I love that “grandma wave” move they do in Automatic.

by Anonymousreply 16107/17/2020

she ok for an old broad, but oscar worthy? hells no

when she open her mouth, botox/restalyne droplets bubble out..

by Anonymousreply 16207/17/2020

I feel the same way about Reese Witherspoon and Kerry Washington. Why are they still around?

by Anonymousreply 16307/17/2020

Agreed, add em to the list.....put ole nicole kidman on it too !

by Anonymousreply 16407/18/2020

It always kills a thread when Janbot’s multiple personalities start arguing with each other.

by Anonymousreply 16507/18/2020

^It’s called a life. Get one.

by Anonymousreply 16607/18/2020

Truth. No one with a functional brain things well of Janet in 2020. She was a relic of the 80s like her dead brother.

by Anonymousreply 16707/18/2020

^Truth, you’re delusional.

-Love, Janet

2019 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Inductee

Music icon since 1986

Pop culture icon since the ‘70s

The blueprint to all your faves

Academy award nominated, Grammy-winning, multi-platinum-selling goddess

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by Anonymousreply 16807/18/2020

Ashanti was the real singer for a lot of her songs.

by Anonymousreply 16907/18/2020

The “fake singing” ordeal is a little overblown. Ashanti sang the chorus on a couple of Lopez’s songs with Ja Rule but J.Lo still sang the versus. And Ashanti is credited in the liner notes.

by Anonymousreply 17007/19/2020

Verses*** dammit.

by Anonymousreply 17107/19/2020

Janet might have been able to pull off the role of Dorothy Dandridge...

by Anonymousreply 17207/19/2020

R172 No way in hell could Janet have pulled that off.

Even Halle Berry couldn't.

by Anonymousreply 17307/19/2020

Halle was adequate, but no more than that.

One of the black UK actresses would be better. Same thing with Josephine Baker. Lynn Whitfield was out of her depth.

by Anonymousreply 17407/19/2020

[quote] Pop culture icon since the ‘70s

LOL

by Anonymousreply 17508/16/2020

^Happy 70th bday HAGdonna!

by Anonymousreply 17608/16/2020

Jennifer Lopez kinda reminds me of Joan Crawford in a way. It's probably the glamour aspect of Jlo that makes me think that.

by Anonymousreply 17708/16/2020

R58: "She seems very down to earth in interviews and such but I wonder if that’s all for show. "

Ya THINK?

by Anonymousreply 17809/12/2020

Everything you said is true R124. But that was 20-25 years ago. She's been in like 25+ films, and nearly every single one was a BOMB. What in the world has she done in the last 5-10 years to merit any continuing 'fame'?

by Anonymousreply 17909/12/2020

R18 She fucked her way to the middle...

by Anonymousreply 18009/12/2020

J Lo is a socialite nowadays who relies on self-promotion. She started out as a dancer on In Living Color and was a backup dancer for Janet and appeared in the That's The Way Love Goes music video. She then became an actress and managed to get roles in some B-movies before getting cast in Anaconda, Selena and Out Of Sight which both put her on the map. She then got into pop music and had a pretty big pop era from 1999 to 2002. Then she had high-profile relationships with P. Diddy, Ben Affleck, Mark Anthony and now A-Rod. She also made a bunch of lame 2000s rom-coms and tried some meatier roles like The Cell and Enough. Now she did the movie Hustlers and also got to a tribute to Motown and the Super Bowl. It's really impressive how she managed to remain so famous. She tried her hand at everything. Regardless of her lack of singing talent and barely passable acting (though let's be real most of Hollywood actors are just passable), she is entertaining and hard-working. It sucks that more talented people aren't as famous but it really is about being ambitious, driven, cutthroat and a raging narcissist to thrive in the entertainment industry.

by Anonymousreply 18109/12/2020

lets put it this way::::he not the most respected in town for her talent or her charms...

creepy old broad

by Anonymousreply 18209/12/2020

I never watched the roundtable she did. But this gif probably sums up how other actresses feel about her😄

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by Anonymousreply 18309/13/2020

Jennifer is at the point where she doesn't really have to be a serious film actress or singer etc. I think when your networth is listed at $570 million dollars, you have zero worries about being taken seriously in Hollywood anymore.

The woman is set.

Although I'm sure she wants to be taken seriously, and she is to an extent. But just not at a Meryl Streep level Iike im sure she'd prefer.

by Anonymousreply 18409/13/2020

Jennifer is about the glamour of being a celebrity. She really shines on the red carpet. That's what she loves.

by Anonymousreply 18509/13/2020

The only thing is J. Lo seems a bit delusional about her talent. Does she know she can't sing and can barely act? She realizes if she didn't look glamorous and beautiful, she would be like David Hasselhoff?

by Anonymousreply 18609/13/2020

Her 2000s movies are a guilty pleasure for me. Love them all

by Anonymousreply 18709/13/2020

"Enough" was just on the other night. But my personal favorite movies out of her 2000s films, is "Monster inlaw." That's a great film and that was also my introduction to Jane Fonda.

I'm a millennial.

by Anonymousreply 18809/13/2020

She works her ass off and is ruthless. That’s what it takes to make it.

by Anonymousreply 18909/13/2020

She’s not really good at anything except backstabbing and fucking the right people.

by Anonymousreply 19009/13/2020

This is why Mariah Carey always says “I don’t know her.” because she doesn’t know the J Lackluster that everyone else speaks of because J Fug’s only talent is stealing everyone else’s work and claiming that it’s hers. J Slut slept her way to where she is, she’s no more talented in the singing arena than Caitlyn “Man Feet” Jenner would be and she’s definitely nowhere near as graceful.

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by Anonymousreply 19109/13/2020

[Quote] and that was also my introduction to Jane Fonda.

Please tell me you've seen 9 to 5 since then?

by Anonymousreply 19209/13/2020

R192 Yes I've seen 9 to 5. I've always heard of and seen bits and pieces of 9 to 5, but never really understood who Jane Fonda was or that she was in that film.

by Anonymousreply 19309/15/2020

Exactly R181. She's a has-been.

by Anonymousreply 19409/15/2020

R194 Agreed. In the past, she could have just disappeared like other singers and actresses have. But reality TV and social media makes everyone stay around forever now.

by Anonymousreply 19509/15/2020

she is living proof that $$$ wont buy u happiness

queen of fug

by Anonymousreply 19609/15/2020

She fuck her way to the top like they say? Didnt think there were that many str8 men in the biz

by Anonymousreply 19709/16/2020

Her singing voice sounds just like her speaking voice so I don't necessarily buy the fake singing.

I love the Y2K angst of the Waiting for Tonight video.

by Anonymousreply 19809/16/2020

Her singing sucks and she has never gotten rid of her New Yawk accent.

Jenny from the Block INDEED.

More like Jenny on the COCK! Of some gullible music producers.

by Anonymousreply 19909/16/2020

She looks like a old cow

by Anonymousreply 20009/18/2020

I loved her songs "Waiting for Tonight" and "On the Floor," but have found her super annoying once she hooked up with ARod. Before she seemed kind of bitchy but wistful but now she seems so smug. She was good in the Stripper movie although it wasn't a stretch by any means.

by Anonymousreply 20109/18/2020

Remember when Madonna was with A Rod and his wife claimed she used the "evil" powers of Kabbalah to lure him in?

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by Anonymousreply 20209/18/2020

r52, r54, Kevyn Aucoin used to do her makeup (Esp. for "Waiting for Tonight"), as well as Janet's, until he died. Then Scott Barnes took over for most of the past 20 years or so (they had a falling out when they found out he was selling info to the tabloids), but they made up recently. He's responsible for the super bronzed, highlighted and butthole mouth look that she has.

I worked with a kid that was on WoD and really dislikes her. Even though the kid called her "Miss Jennifer" (good breeding!), kid said that all that caring and crying was just an act- Miss Jennifer could care less about the kids and would never greet or look at them unless absolutely necessary for the cameras.

by Anonymousreply 20309/18/2020

never could sing

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by Anonymousreply 20409/18/2020

[quote] kid said that all that caring and crying was just an act- Miss Jennifer could care less about the kids and would never greet or look at them unless absolutely necessary for the cameras

Not surprising at all.

by Anonymousreply 20509/18/2020

She's a dreadful actress.

by Anonymousreply 20609/18/2020

She's a dreadful actress.

by Anonymousreply 20709/18/2020

She makes Paula Abdul sound like Whitney.

by Anonymousreply 20809/18/2020

She was definitely one of those artists that the industry pushed hard onto us. But it's false that she stole other artist vocals and didn't sing. What happened was artists would send her demos and the producers would keep the vocals on the demos rather than use the beat and lyrics. So for example, "I'm Real" has J. Lo singing (of in her case talking) the song while Ashanti is very clearly on the chorus. Same with Brandy in Play. Natasha Ramos in Jenny on the Block. It's vocal blending and studio tricks. J. Lo sings over other artists vocals or has the artist sing the chorus. Timberlake, Rihanna and Britney have also done this.

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And when artists send in demos, the labels can still use the vocals. It becomes the property of the label once they buy it from the artist. But everyone involved got paid and credited if you look up the songs on Wikipedia or if you owned the CD, the backup singers and writers would likely be credited in the booklet. If Jennifer and her label refused to credit anyone, she would have been sued. This isn't like the 1950s and 1960s, when artists actually could steal and get away from it (looking at Led Zeppelin).

by Anonymousreply 21009/18/2020

R159 Hey, lay off the Sisters! They were singers, not dancers, and they were well established in the music business long before the video age. They did their best to try and keep up with the video music expectations of the 80s. And they did have some really good videos (this wasn't one of them).

by Anonymousreply 21109/18/2020

Also backup singers don't actually have to be credited either. It's like how an actors can make a cameo and not be credited in a film. As annoying as J. Lo is, she didn't do anything different from what other pop singers were doing since the 1950s when the idea of selling a pretty face over a competent musician started taking off.

by Anonymousreply 21209/18/2020

She’s pretty, she’s got a great body, she needs and wants attention, she’s focused and a hard worker. I find her annoying as everybody else does but she has an incredible work ethic. In Madonna’s Instagram live with Diablo, she talks about her sister Paula and says that she was more talented than her. She says that Paula could sing, dance, paint...bla bla bla but that she (Madge) was more focused and more ambitious than her. That’s very important,

by Anonymousreply 21309/18/2020

"Play" was written by Christina Milian and she sang the chorus. This was not a successful single.

Brandy Norwood wrote "Louboutin" and is featured heavily in the song. This song was a "buzz single." It also flopped.

Ashanti wrote "Ain't it Funny Remix" and sings the chorus. The "I'm real remix" where Jennifer Lopez sings the N word was written by Ja Rule.

by Anonymousreply 21409/18/2020

She’s a grifter and a whore.

by Anonymousreply 21509/18/2020

Jennifer was also a backup dancer for the biggest boy band of the early 90s, New Kids on the Block.

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by Anonymousreply 21609/18/2020

Here's a quote above Jenny from reddit:

[quote] I interned for Pfizer back in '06 which was a fabulous gig, but knew some people that "interned" for JLo. She was 10x worse than Sonja ever dreamt of being. JLo was a true diva in every sense of the word and was in no way Jenny from the Block.

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by Anonymousreply 21709/18/2020

I still don’t understand how people who can’t sing have successful careers as singers?

by Anonymousreply 21809/18/2020

She was also brilliant at getting herself in the press. She wore that green Versace dress to the Grammy’s and that got attention around the world.

by Anonymousreply 21909/18/2020

Now she's shading Rosie Perez.

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by Anonymousreply 22011/10/2020

R220 Rosie's gonna knife her for that.

by Anonymousreply 22111/11/2020

R221 it wouldn't be the first time. Those 2 go way back.

by Anonymousreply 22211/11/2020

R222 Rosie Perez is infinitely more talented than Jennifer, both as a dancer and as an actress.

Jennifer just opened up her cooch more willingly and more frequently, and that's why she's more famous.

by Anonymousreply 22311/11/2020

She didn't even learn how to speak Spanish until she was like 35. Not saying that's bad, but it's not like she grew up in a two-language household.

by Anonymousreply 22411/12/2020

JLO didn't know how to speak Spanish until she was 35!? Yet another reason to laugh at the song "Jenny from the Block".

by Anonymousreply 22511/12/2020

Well, r225, none of her peers on the block where she grew up spoke Spanish either.

She is famous because she is dead gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 22611/12/2020

She's 52.

Fifty-two.

5.2.

She's not an ingenue, a sex kitten, a young thing, a chica, a muchacha or a hot new piece lending her open arms and whatever to the musical and dramatic arts.

She's a 52-year-old woman who parlayed her augmented appearance, her limited talents (She's a better actress than music/dance performer.) and a cunning willingness to fuck her way up without caring about the ethics or decency of the men involved to obtain a bigger career than seemed plausible. She's been involved with dirty people doing dirty things - criminal things against other people - and sailed on and up. She's a product, like a lesser Beyonce. Good for her.

But the mediocrity at her center is what's most telling, and the source of her growing desperation. All the gab about how amazing she is is silly.

The "best used by" date has passed.

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by Anonymousreply 22711/12/2020

R227, JLO is probably the "slightest" person to ever become a multi-decade spanning star. Really. I can't think of anyone else who had popularity for decades like that who had such a one-note quality about them. J Lo's one-note quality is her novelty of being an attractive "ethnic" woman. That's it.

by Anonymousreply 22811/12/2020

[Quote] She is famous because she is dead gorgeous.

She was pretty in the early 00s but let's not get carried away.

by Anonymousreply 22911/12/2020

The Oscar buzz for Hustlers was puzzling. She was ok. Not as dreadful as she is in RomComs but still bland. And I get major smells cookies vibes from Alex.

by Anonymousreply 23011/12/2020

She is a useless woman. Only passably attractive. She made such a big deal about her butt, but it is perched on those short, dumpy legs. And don’t get me started on her singing or acting.

by Anonymousreply 23111/20/2020

R231 Her butt is gross. Why anyone would think a gargantuan fat ass like that is sexy is a mystery.

by Anonymousreply 23211/20/2020

Maybe on a taller more voluptuous woman, r232, but JLo is short and has a stubby figure.

by Anonymousreply 23311/20/2020

Can you imagine the mounds of cellulite that must be covering that ass and her hind legs?

by Anonymousreply 23411/20/2020

r233, You can tell you are a man who is not attracted to women.

by Anonymousreply 23511/20/2020

[Quote] Her butt is gross. Why anyone would think a gargantuan fat ass like that is sexy is a mystery.

There's nothing wrong with her butt. You must have her confused with one of the Kardashians.

by Anonymousreply 23611/20/2020

Rosie Perez has spoken out on how difficult J Lo was to work with.

by Anonymousreply 23711/20/2020

R236 Check out her ass in "Selena." God, that thing is the size of a Sherman tank. Really odd and gross looking.

by Anonymousreply 23811/20/2020

So, r235, what’s your point?

by Anonymousreply 23911/20/2020

Latinos love her and so did black people at the peak of her career. She won the hip-hop and urban community over in addition to Hispanic audiences. She became a beauty standard for Latin and Black people(although she is not, or does not identify as, black)and in the early 2000s, plenty of young Asian-Americans were influenced by her style and dancing as well.

And as others have said, she struck when the iron was hot. She released records and radio singles when Latin pop was all over the top 40, when Ricky Martin, Enrique and Shakira were selling platinum. Then she had her Versace dress moment and became a sex symbol while her music career was taking off.

Finally, she was media-savvy and willing to do movies, was all over magazine covers and fashion ads. So she was a hit.

by Anonymousreply 24011/20/2020

On top of not being evidently talented she appears utterly humorless.

by Anonymousreply 24111/20/2020

R240 hon Ricky Martin was in Menudo and a soap. The Latino explosion in the late 90s was ushered in by in large Jennifer Lopez herself. Because she became a movie star that then went to music. Ricky Martin and company you mention blew up in the late 90s. Jennifer hit about 95 or so. I'm not a huge fan. I like her ok but you gotta give her her due. She was helped a lot with Selena madness but she was way ahead of Ricky Martin when Livin La Vida Corny happened.

by Anonymousreply 24211/20/2020

R238 I have seen Selena. Her ass looks normal to me 🤷🏽‍♂️

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by Anonymousreply 24311/21/2020

R243 Check out toward the beginning of the movie. There's a scene where she's wearing leggings. Damn, that ass is huge!

by Anonymousreply 24411/21/2020

R238 That ass looks pretty flabby to me.

by Anonymousreply 24511/21/2020

I've always found OP's opening troll statements pedestrian. I'm not mystified by their success on DL because people mostly respond to provocative troll statements. The duller the better. OP isn't even an interesting troll.

by Anonymousreply 24611/21/2020

J.Lo has a gorgeous face, but her proportions aren't great. Beyoncé (whom I dislike just as much) is a much better example of a hot thick/big-boned woman.

by Anonymousreply 24711/21/2020

R247 Don't get me started on THAT cow!

by Anonymousreply 24811/21/2020

There’s no greater delusion than “hot thick woman.”

by Anonymousreply 24911/21/2020

If jlo's butt belonged to a man, y'all know you'd be worshiping it. And let's not kid ourselves here, DLers LOVE them a thicc man, but paradoxically, not so much thick women.

Anorexic women are kind of a joke here, too. Only men are off-limits and to be held in reverence(unless he's not hot).

by Anonymousreply 25011/21/2020

Mariah's kids are so cute and JLo's look like Marc Anthony clones. Not that that's bad, but I don't find Marc attractive.

by Anonymousreply 251Last Wednesday at 5:08 AM

R251 Marc Anthony is a skeletor. He must have a big dick; otherwise, J-Lo wouldn't have had anything to do with him.

by Anonymousreply 252Last Wednesday at 5:30 AM

I'll give it to JLo--She always seems to put on a great show. Her Super Bowl number was off the charts, something I didn't expect at all.

by Anonymousreply 253Last Wednesday at 5:31 AM

R253 Thanks for your post, Alex Rodriguez.

by Anonymousreply 254Last Wednesday at 5:33 AM

Jennifer Lopez was charming when younger. Much less so now as a very very rich ageless glamazon Diva.

by Anonymousreply 255Last Wednesday at 5:50 AM
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