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Sheena Easton vs Teena Marie

DL time to choose.

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by Anonymousreply 200Last Thursday at 3:26 AM

I like them both but Sheena had the better voice/acting chops.

This song should've been a hit for SE here in the US =

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by Anonymousreply 107/09/2020

Sheena actually covered a teena marie song I Need Your Lovin. Did a good job of it. Still : Teena all the way.

by Anonymousreply 207/09/2020

Strut, pout, put it out. That's what you want from women.

by Anonymousreply 307/09/2020

This is like choosing between Scotch Gin and Bourbon whiskey, impossible.

by Anonymousreply 407/09/2020

Teena was a more accomplished songwriter and musician. Sheena was more pop and made more accessible music. Both are good.

If you love melancholy soul, funk, blues and jazz then no question you'll prefer Teena -- she is a 'blacker' version of Alicia Keys.

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by Anonymousreply 507/09/2020

They were both talented

by Anonymousreply 607/09/2020

I don't hate Sheena Easton by any means, but in terms of music, Teena Marie was way more badass.

by Anonymousreply 707/09/2020

Why those two? Their singing styles are completely different; you may as well compare Tina Turner and Petulia Clark.

by Anonymousreply 807/09/2020

[quote] Why those two? Their singing styles are completely different; you may as well compare Tina Turner and Petulia Clark.

Well...these two were the only white women charting Top 10 hits on the Billboard black singles chart in the 80s. They have a lot in common.

by Anonymousreply 907/09/2020

Prince didn't ask Teena Marie to sing a song he wrote about her vagina, so I have to go with Sheena.

by Anonymousreply 1007/09/2020

R10 because Prince and Rick James had a feud going on at the time.

by Anonymousreply 1107/10/2020

hlly

by Anonymousreply 1207/10/2020

Really? Teena was a fantastic singer, songwriter, producer, multi-instrumentalist. Sheena? Not so much. Don't get me wrong, I love Sheena, but the two are like apples and oranges.

by Anonymousreply 1307/10/2020

I wouldn’t beg for water!

by Anonymousreply 1407/10/2020

What am I, chopped liver?

by Anonymousreply 1507/10/2020

Sheena was gorgeous too. Teena not so much.

by Anonymousreply 1607/10/2020

Are you a man or a paper tiger?

by Anonymousreply 1707/10/2020

When u need him will he run and stand by ya?

by Anonymousreply 1807/10/2020

Sheena was all around more dynamic.

by Anonymousreply 1907/11/2020

Teena was very talented but had a real drug problem

Her thing with nasty Rick James didn't help.

by Anonymousreply 2007/11/2020

Anne Murray or Asha Bhosle?

Beverly Sills or Josephine Baker?

Agnetha Falkstog or Buffy Sainte-Marie?

by Anonymousreply 2107/11/2020

Why not, r21. Both white female singers from the 80s who scored hits on the r&b chart.

by Anonymousreply 2207/11/2020

R21, you are a gem.

by Anonymousreply 2307/11/2020

Easton and Marie also have the Prince/Rick James protege parallel.

by Anonymousreply 2407/11/2020

I’d rather be a Prince protege than a Rick James protege. Just sayin’

by Anonymousreply 2507/11/2020

I almost had a preference between Sheena Easton and Teena Marie.

But then I remembered: I'm a dude.

by Anonymousreply 2607/11/2020

Team Morning Train, For Your Eyes Only, You Got The Look.

I cannot name a single Teena Marie song, she was not big in the Southern hemisphere.

by Anonymousreply 2707/11/2020

Teena Motherfucking Marie all the way. She was the more accomplished musician and skilled vocalist. She also wrote, produced, arranged, and played multiple instruments on the majority of her songs.

Sheena never recorded a song as beautiful as Déjà Vu.

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by Anonymousreply 2807/11/2020

I chose Teena-Marie because I think she was a true original. No one sounded like her. Sheena has a great voice, is beautiful and charismatic, but Teena understood funk and soul.

by Anonymousreply 2907/11/2020

R27 Teena had Lover girl and oh la la la, two underated 80’s gems.

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by Anonymousreply 3007/11/2020

And don't forget Square Biz, her signature song.

Sheena was never in the same league as Teena Marie as a musician and vocalist.

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by Anonymousreply 3107/11/2020

Sheena was pretty special also though. I have a soft spot in my heart for the bitchy scot, the first ever reality tv turned pop star.

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by Anonymousreply 3207/11/2020

Did Teena Marie have any top 40 hits on the pop charts besides lover girl?

by Anonymousreply 3307/11/2020

I appreciate that pop star Sheena really leaned in to black music after the R&B fluke hit with "Sugar Walls." She went right into the Nile Rodgers-produced "Do You" which was far more R&B-influenced than his work with Bowie, Jagger and Madonna. "Do It For Love", "Kisses", "Magic of Love" and my favorite "When The Lightning Strikes" were 180 degrees away from her pop phase. Then the Narada Michael-Walden produced "So Far So Good." With 1988's "Lover In Me" LP taking her firmly into contemporary R&B -- written and produced by Babyface, Angela Winbush and Prince.

It was a daring change in direction but I think it worked for her. She couldn't have sustained a late 80s pop career being an amalgam of ONJ and Barbra.

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by Anonymousreply 3407/11/2020

R34 After her first two UK top ten hits (“Morning Train” and “Modern Girl”) the UK turned their back on Sheena and her sexy image completely. The first two songs from her second album, “Strut” and “Sugar Walls “were top ten hits in the US and those songs did not even chart in the UK. Sheena knew were her bread was buttered.

by Anonymousreply 3507/11/2020

I win.

by Anonymousreply 3607/11/2020

How so r36? You never had a hit song and you’re dead!

by Anonymousreply 3707/12/2020

Sheena Easton covering Teena Marie - “I Need Your Lovin’”.

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by Anonymousreply 3807/12/2020

[quote] How so [R36]? You never had a hit song and you’re dead!

Because, B*tch, I was the prettiest!!! Everyone has to die. Not everyone can be breathtakingly beautiful.

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by Anonymousreply 3907/12/2020

Lmfao r39! The sole Vanity troll is baaack.!

by Anonymousreply 4007/12/2020

[quote] Lmfao [R39]! The sole Vanity troll is baaack.!

LOL! Actually, there are at least two of us...

I mean, I should say there were at least two of us before the pandemic :-|

by Anonymousreply 4107/12/2020

I'm hot. AND Nasty. R37

by Anonymousreply 4207/13/2020

[quote]Why not, [R21]. Both white female singers from the 80s who scored hits on the r&b chart.

Well shit, if THAT's your criteria, at least compare Teena with a white girl with actual R&B cred and not some pop star hungry for an "image change".

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by Anonymousreply 4307/16/2020

R43, Lisa Stansfield came later. Sheena had already cleared the way for white British female pop singers to get airplay on black radio.

Teena Marie was a R&B/Soul singer and black radio staple. Her crossover was to pop radio ("Lovergirl"). In that sense, she has no peers.

by Anonymousreply 4407/16/2020

R43 It was interesting that he black community during that time period embraced Lisa, Teena and Sheena but shunned Whitney.

by Anonymousreply 4507/16/2020

Shitney

by Anonymousreply 4607/16/2020

Whitney wasn't stunned. Look at her R&B chart stats. Most of those massive pop hits charted high on r&b as well.

by Anonymousreply 4707/17/2020

[Quote] Teena Marie was a R&B/Soul singer and black radio staple. Her crossover was to pop radio ("Lovergirl"). In that sense, she has no peers.

Robin Thicke?

by Anonymousreply 4807/17/2020

[quote][R43] It was interesting that he black community during that time period embraced Lisa, Teena and Sheena but shunned Whitney.

I was there, so trust me: the black community did NOT embrace Sheena Easton, Prince or no Prince.

by Anonymousreply 4907/17/2020

R49 Brits and Scot felt the same way, poor Sheena. I mean she is a cunt but I like that about her.

by Anonymousreply 5007/17/2020

I love both of these ladies, but truth is, Ms. Easton ain’t got shit on Lady T. Teena Marie was a badass white chocolate chick with street cred to burn. One of the few white singers considered by the black community to be the “real deal,” her funkiness was not faked. Homegirl could sing, write and play instruments. Lots of great tracks in her catalogue, from “I Need Your Lovin’” to “Square Biz” to “Lovergirl.” I dare anyone to listen to her epic ballads “Portuguese Love,” “Out on a Limb” or the iconic Rick James duet “Fire and Desire” and say that they weren’t moved.

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by Anonymousreply 5107/17/2020

The in-and-out accent is a bit odd.

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by Anonymousreply 5207/17/2020

R27 is DEFINITELY white.

by Anonymousreply 5307/17/2020

Young Teena on The Beverly Hillbillies...

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by Anonymousreply 5407/17/2020

Amazes me when people in the US talk about Sheena Easton, she was moderately successful in the UK (on the back of a talent show) for about 18 months.

She never had a top 10 hit after the middle of 1981.

by Anonymousreply 5507/17/2020

"Strut" is much better than her UK hits, though.

by Anonymousreply 5607/17/2020

Might be, I've never heard it?

by Anonymousreply 5707/17/2020

R55 Brits shunned her sexy image, I am sure Sheena preffered to have top ten hits in the US anyway.

by Anonymousreply 5807/17/2020

It had nothing to do with her sexy image. Brits didn't turn against, say, Kim Wilde.

by Anonymousreply 5907/17/2020

R59 Kim was not singing about sugar walls!

by Anonymousreply 6007/17/2020

She wasn't really being promoted in the UK and the music scene had moved on to New Wave/ New Romantic's etc by the end of 1981. Don't think anyone turned against her.

She was outdated before her first hit.

by Anonymousreply 6107/17/2020

"Telefone" should have done something for her.

by Anonymousreply 6207/17/2020

In the US, Sheena was being pushed in the mold of ONJ. She had several US Top 10 pop hits before she "went black."

by Anonymousreply 6307/17/2020

I had to google Teena, so Sheena

by Anonymousreply 6407/17/2020

^ You’re definitely white, too.

by Anonymousreply 6507/18/2020

On a global scale Sheena Easton is/was a pop star. Teena, though was deserving and was talented never enjoyed the same level of success Sheena did.

by Anonymousreply 6607/18/2020

R51 Out on a Limb is THE Teena track to end all Lady T tracks.

She tears that shit UP.

by Anonymousreply 6707/18/2020

Teena was awesome. Sheena too.

by Anonymousreply 6807/18/2020

Sheena's sugar walls gave me the diabeetus.

by Anonymousreply 6907/18/2020

They were both at Queen Anne’s ball. So was Tiffany and Madonna. But NOT Linda Ronstadt or Juice Newton.

by Anonymousreply 7007/18/2020

Sheena was one of the most popular artists in the UK after The Big Time premiered on the BBC in late 1980. It documented her life in Scotland, attending The Royal Academy of Music and Drama to her dramatic audition for a record contract in front of EMI record executives. It seemed as soon as Sheena made the move to the USA, her UK career fizzled. In the late 80s she had a couple of songs flirt with the UK Top 10: U Got The Look -her duet with Prince and The Lover In Me in 1989.

by Anonymousreply 7107/18/2020

[quote] Juice Newton.

nobody gives the slightest fuck about Juice fucking Newton

by Anonymousreply 7207/18/2020

Lol r72!

by Anonymousreply 7307/18/2020

Sheena doesn't seem to tour or work much. I wonder if she's one of those celebrities who invested well. TM was a one hit wonder. She had one hit in America on Casey Kasem's chart. Didn't Rick James kidnap her once and electrocute her tits?

by Anonymousreply 7407/19/2020

Sheena's been in Vegas for the last twenty or so years. She did a stint in 42nd Street in London a few years ago. She played Chile in 2019...

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by Anonymousreply 7507/19/2020

Teena may only have one pop hit, but she had plenty of R&B hits and is very well known in the black community.

by Anonymousreply 7607/19/2020

lol r74

by Anonymousreply 7707/19/2020

Sheena looks pretty good

by Anonymousreply 7807/19/2020

Teena Marie is dead btw.

by Anonymousreply 7907/19/2020

Prince usually had good taste in protégés but Sheena yelps like a cocker spaniel. Team Teena.

by Anonymousreply 8007/19/2020

Teena was so badass though. She sounded black on the radio, was on ‘Soul Train’ several times, and played a mean funk guitar. Her vocals were very effective too, she used that shriek and squeak to its maximum to get her offbeat lyrics across.

“What are you gonna DO...when you miss my lips, and you start to trip???”

by Anonymousreply 8107/19/2020

Teena was so funky she smelled!!!

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by Anonymousreply 8207/19/2020

Please. Sheila E or nothing.

by Anonymousreply 8307/19/2020

Sorry R51. I listened to that song that you posted & wasn't moved at all. I laughed out loud at some of the vocal sounds in the last half of that song (it's too long & repetitive).

She's too much of a screech owl to achieve mainstream success. I love her song Lovergirl but that's pretty much it.

by Anonymousreply 8407/19/2020

R84 is white and soulless.

And probably doesn’t season his food well.

by Anonymousreply 8507/20/2020

Listen up, bitches...Sheena most certainly did not pave the way for white British soul singers getting US radio play!

by Anonymousreply 8607/20/2020

Speaking of Dusty and Lulu. Dusty was a sweetheart to Sheena on “the big time” while Lulu was a Cunty McCuntface.

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by Anonymousreply 8707/20/2020

Where was Lulu bitchy in that footage? Lulu's manager clearly wasn't impressed with Sheena. (Were you impressed with Sheena's cabaret rendition of "I've Got the Music In Me"? I wasn't.) It's interesting that we don't see the song she sung for Lulu and Marion Massey. Sidenote: Massey's son was the head of Island records up until pretty recently.

by Anonymousreply 8807/20/2020

Island Records was certainly not EMI Records!!!

by Anonymousreply 8907/20/2020

Its not even a question!!! Teena.

by Anonymousreply 9007/20/2020

Island is just an imprint of Universal. The Island of old is long gone.

by Anonymousreply 9107/20/2020

Universal/Island wasn’t the company it is now, especially in the UK in 1980. EMI Records was the Beatles record label and the top British label for a very long time. Needless to say, Sheena later switched from EMI Records to Universal/MCA later in her career and recorded 7 albums with them.

by Anonymousreply 9207/20/2020

R87, I loved watching the documentary on the launching of Sheena Easton from 1980. So interesting to see how she looked and sounded before hitting it big. Loved it.

by Anonymousreply 9307/20/2020

Teena Marie isn't even in the same league as Cyndi Lauper, much less Sheena Easton, who has a voice up there with Whitney, Karen, Olivia and Mariah. If you don't think so, you never heard her albums.

by Anonymousreply 9407/20/2020

What I find to be interesting and ironic is how Lulu and her manager didn’t see Sheena being a pop star when she was introduced to them in 1980. By that time, Lulu was old hat on the charts and here comes a freshly signed girl from Scotland who is like 19 years old and everything is being taped for a BBC TV special devoted to this (then) unknown singer. Lulu and her mgr we’re JEALOUS and didn’t want this upstart to make it!

Funny how karma bites ya in the ass... in 2017 the producer of the hit Broadway Musical 42nd Street hand picked Sheena Easton to star in the London West End revival show that was the biggest and most expensive production of the show. After Sheena decided to leave the production after a successful first year - Lulu was chosen for the female lead after Sheena returned to the US. It wasn’t as successful with Lulu and production stopped after 4-5 months. Hmmm

by Anonymousreply 9507/20/2020

Sheena only got the 42nd St gig because Lulu wouldn't commit to a year. Lulu has been touring consistently for the last five years. She wasn't waiting around for a musical theatre gig.

by Anonymousreply 9607/20/2020

[Quote] Lulu and her mgr we’re JEALOUS and didn’t want this upstart to make it!

That makes no sense. Did they hope that Sheena would back out of her contract with EMI?

by Anonymousreply 9707/20/2020

"Mah voice sounds terrible!"

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by Anonymousreply 9807/20/2020

"Lulu was really nice. I remember getting a good vibe from her. But the manager..."

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by Anonymousreply 9907/20/2020

Lulu’s tours were not going to put her back in the UK entertainment media spotlight. Doing the much anticipated 42nd Street and getting UK press and media attention was a boon for ANY singer. It would have made her tours more successful if she had half a brain. But it wasn’t meant to be and Sheena ran with it and left on her own terms.

by Anonymousreply 10007/20/2020

[Quote] Lulu’s tours were not going to put her back in the UK entertainment media spotlight

Lulu has never been out of it. She's hardly ever off UK TV screens.

by Anonymousreply 10107/20/2020

[Quote] Sheena ran with it and left on her own terms.

And good for Sheena. But it didn't do anything for her career. She wasn't even billed above title, as Lulu was...

by Anonymousreply 10207/20/2020

Champagne for Lulu!

by Anonymousreply 10307/20/2020

R88 I thought Lulu was a cunt because she just smiled and nodded and clearly agreed at the nasty things her manager was telling Sheena. You could literally see Sheena’s soul getting crushed when they told her to go into acting because she was too plain and not interesting enough to be a pop star. Lulu’s career was dead by that point so there was no need to feel threatened by this up and coming young girl.

by Anonymousreply 10407/20/2020

[Quote] Lulu’s career was dead by that point

And yet both Lulu and Sheena would join an elite group of British women with Grammy nominations within two years of the "The Big Time" broadcast.

by Anonymousreply 10507/20/2020

R98 Sheena’s accent was so cute, and that producer was pretty hot.

by Anonymousreply 10607/20/2020

[Quote] I thought Lulu was a cunt because she just smiled and nodded and clearly agreed at the nasty things her manager was telling Sheena. You could literally see Sheena’s soul getting crushed when they told her to go into acting because she was too plain and not interesting enough to be a pop star.

Sheena's remembrance is different to yours. Whose impression is more valid? The manager praised Sheena's looks. Sheena didn't seem ready made for the big time. She did not have an unmistakable sound as a singer when auditioning for Dusty or Lulu.

by Anonymousreply 10707/20/2020

[Quote] that producer was pretty hot.

That's Chris Neil.

by Anonymousreply 10807/20/2020

[Quote] You could literally see Sheena’s soul getting crushed

I saw Sheena looking defiantly at the manager. Sheena's own words in 2000 support my impression. She wasn't going to take any knocks to heart.

by Anonymousreply 10907/20/2020

R102, the 42nd Street revival was essentially over when Lulu came on. Ticket sales went in the toilet after one month of her stepping into the role.

by Anonymousreply 11007/20/2020

R99 Sheena clearly did not remember Lulu finishing her manager’s sentence and nodding her head in complete agreement that Sheena did not have what it takes to be a popstar. I would have loved to see the egg on their faces when Sheena won the Grammy for best new artist a few years later.

by Anonymousreply 11107/20/2020

R103 the champagne bottle for Lulu was 3/4 of the way gone when she joined the show. Very little interest in her compared to the buzz in the media and West End that Sheena received. There was no opening night or attendance by the royals when Lulu came on board. AND btw.. Sheena Easton did get top billing as I have proof of it.

by Anonymousreply 11207/20/2020

[Quote] the 42nd Street revival was essentially over when Lulu came on. Ticket sales went in the toilet after one month of her stepping into the role.

And did they improve for Bonnie Langford? Are you arguing that people went to see "42nd St" for Sheena Easton, despite her lack of a media profile in the UK for, what, almost 40 years? Or did "42nd St" run out of steam?

(If Sheena Easton proved to be box office during her run, she'd have been sought out for another production... she hasn't been thus far. Shall we talk about "Man of La Mancha" now?)

by Anonymousreply 11307/20/2020

[Quote] Sheena Easton did get top billing as I have proof of it.

Was she billed above or below the title...?

by Anonymousreply 11407/20/2020

[quote]Sheena Easton, who has a voice up there with Whitney, Karen, Olivia and Mariah.

I thought the crack epidemic was over!

by Anonymousreply 11507/20/2020

There was genuine interest in seeing Sheena Easton perform in the UK again. She was always remembered and the curiosity factor was actually very high which helped sell tickets. Sheena appeared on numerous late night and morning tv shows on the BBC to promote the show.

by Anonymousreply 11607/20/2020

R114 it doesn’t matter you dumbass! Sheena’s full-size image appeared on the theater posters alongside the 42 Street logo! She received top billing above all other actors in the show! OMG you’re fucking insane and obviously pressed because you’re trying to defend fuckin’ Lulu lackluster showing!

by Anonymousreply 11707/20/2020

I think Tina had the better voice and was a better performer but Sheena had the better music

by Anonymousreply 11807/20/2020

[quote] Teena Marie isn't even in the same league as Cyndi Lauper, much less Sheena Easton, who has a voice up there with Whitney, Karen, Olivia and Mariah. If you don't think so, you never heard her albums.

Teena Marie is legendary among connoisseurs of soul music. She released 13 full-length studio recordings over her 30 years as a recording artist without a dip in the quality of her output. She navigated the ups and downs of being a R&B heritage artist as hip-hop swallowed the black music genre. She is still played on urban radio today.

by Anonymousreply 11907/20/2020

I think Teena Marie was stellar. Sheena Easton was too. Both very different artists. Sheena was a fan of Teena Marie.

by Anonymousreply 12007/20/2020

[Quote] There was genuine interest in seeing Sheena Easton perform in the UK again. She was always remembered and the curiosity factor was actually very high which helped sell tickets. Sheena appeared on numerous late night and morning tv shows on the BBC to promote the show.

It's nice to know Sheena retains the services of a press agent.

by Anonymousreply 12107/20/2020

I think the Sheena hater is also the Kim Carnes hater

by Anonymousreply 12207/20/2020

Kim Carnes owes her career to me!

by Anonymousreply 12307/20/2020

Jackie DeShannon owes her career to me!

by Anonymousreply 12407/20/2020

R123 Kim Carnes owes her career to these babies, nice try!

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[QUOTE] it doesn’t matter you dumbass! Sheena’s full-size image appeared on the theater posters alongside the 42 Street logo! She received top billing above all other actors in the show! OMG you’re fucking insane and obviously pressed because you’re trying to defend fuckin’ Lulu lackluster showing!

I love the randomness of the subject matter that triggers DL.

by Anonymousreply 12607/20/2020

Teena all day. This is kind of a silly question.

by Anonymousreply 12707/20/2020

I agree it’s a silly question because we’re comparing a singer/song stylist who had a finite period of chart popularity after morphing from genres, to a highly influential MUSICIAN and songwriter who stayed true to her genre for decades and whose work is respected after her death.

It’s sort of like trying to compare Apollonia to Sheila E, the attributes of just being a musician alone clearly stack the cards in their favor.

by Anonymousreply 12807/21/2020

Who are some modern musicians who've cited Teena Marie as an influence?

by Anonymousreply 12907/21/2020

some cited here

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by Anonymousreply 13007/21/2020

Morning Train can’t compare to I Need Your Lovin’ in this lifetime nor the next.

by Anonymousreply 13107/21/2020

Sheena was more the wind beneath our wings...

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by Anonymousreply 13207/21/2020

Teena was too black for some of you all.

by Anonymousreply 13307/21/2020

Listen you mothetfuckers! I’m Sheena Easton 💯 and the rest of you haters can lick my big asshole!

by Anonymousreply 13407/21/2020

Teena Marie should've been a huge star in the 80s, she was a phenomenal talent, but I can understand why she wasn't. She was just a bit too niche for pop stations at the time. She's one of my all-time faves.

by Anonymousreply 13507/21/2020

R135: Teena Marie was one of many black artists in the 80s like Phyllis Hyman, Regina Belle, Miki Howard and Angela Winbush who were extremely talented and had a large black following but would never cross over to the pop charts. Except technically Teena Marie wasn't black. When Lovergirl went top ten on the pop charts people were surprised she crossed over. After that, she went back to a mostly black audience.

by Anonymousreply 13607/21/2020

she had a sliver of Puerto Rican in her blood so I’d say she was black adjacent

by Anonymousreply 13707/21/2020

Sheena ain’t got a Portuguese Love in her repertoire.

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by Anonymousreply 13807/21/2020

Sheena's last music video in 2000. Giving Up Giving In.

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by Anonymousreply 13907/22/2020

I have compiled playlists: Teena Marie faves & Sheena Easton faves. I like both playlists equally.

by Anonymousreply 14007/24/2020

What an odd comparison. Neither woman had anything in common stylistically nor musically.

by Anonymousreply 14107/24/2020

Both white 80s singers who sang r&b.

by Anonymousreply 14207/24/2020

Both sort of disappeared right before a time when I would have known/cared about either star, but Sheena seems well-known to me while Teena - nothing more than a very esoteric name from the past. That says nothing about the quality of their output, but Sheena seems to have far longer lasting star-power IMO.

by Anonymousreply 14307/24/2020

Sheena and Teena had nothing in common musically. Today, Teena would be a lot more famous but back then there was a big separation between the pop and r&b charts.

by Anonymousreply 14407/24/2020

Why would Teena be more famous today?

by Anonymousreply 14507/24/2020

Teena Marie was always one of my favorites, but I just found out a while back that she collaborated with Louis Farrakhan, so she's not only dead to me, she's double dead to me.

Sheena Easton had a lot of shitty songs, but she did a duet with Luis Miguel in Spanish and also, she never got fat, so...Sheena for the win!

by Anonymousreply 14607/24/2020

I guess that’s why Sheena has some top 10 r&b hits, huh, r144??

by Anonymousreply 14707/24/2020

Sheena could do with updating her stage wardrobe.

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[quote]Why would Teena be more famous today?

Because there's no longer a separation between pop and r&b music on the pop charts today, and also a white person doing r&b isn't as rare as it was back then. Things were a lot stricter in the 80s. Of course you'd get crossover hits, but an artist who was strictly r&b wasn't played on Top 40 radio/MTV all the time.

BTW, Teena Marie was fantastic. Her 80s music is some of my all-time favorite music from that decade. I'm white, btw, and was just a kid at the time.

by Anonymousreply 14907/24/2020

Who's a white, r&B success? Don't say Adele.

by Anonymousreply 15007/24/2020

I liked Teena but she didn’t give face like Sheena did.

by Anonymousreply 15107/24/2020

Sheena did favor bitchface rather a lot.

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The self satisfied look circa 3:30

by Anonymousreply 15307/24/2020

Who are these idiots STILL complaining about the comparison?!!! We are 150 posts into it.

by Anonymousreply 15407/24/2020

[quote]Who's a white, r&B success? Don't say Adele.

Robin Thicke

Jon B.

Bobby Caldwell

Hall & Oates (lots of their output)

Joss Stone

Nelly Furtado

Fergie

Amy Winehouse

by Anonymousreply 15507/24/2020

Sheena Easton singing "Fire and Rain". Written & produced by Angela Winbush.

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by Anonymousreply 15607/25/2020

R155; I would say out of that list only Jon B. and early Robin Thick had an R&B audience. The rest never had constant hits on the R&B charts or were a part of contemporary black culture.

by Anonymousreply 15707/25/2020

Listen to Teena Marie's 80s catalog, both Motown and Epic, she had a lot of great songs. I don't think either record company really knew how to market her.

by Anonymousreply 15807/25/2020

I thought "Don't say Adele" would make it clear that I was talking about contemporary music. Jon B was '90s, no?

by Anonymousreply 15907/25/2020

Eat shit r159 nobody cares!

by Anonymousreply 16007/25/2020

That may be, R157, but Bobby Caldwell’s “What You Won’t Do For Love” is so steeped in the annals of iconic R&B songs that it is worth 10 #1 R&B chart toppers. Many people grew up thinking it was a black guy singing the song.

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by Anonymousreply 16107/25/2020

Again, Sheena was the first white pop star to lean into R&B. "The Lover In Me" CD was strictly R&B/Soul. Nothing on it resembled anything she had done up to that point. It worked, so then there was a deluge of white singers charting with danceable R&B music -- Lisa Stansfield, Tara Kemp, Jane Child, etc.

by Anonymousreply 16207/26/2020

[Quote] Sheena was the first white pop star to lean into R&B

Gworl.

by Anonymousreply 16307/26/2020

Teena just wasn’t pretty, that was her problem for crossing over

by Anonymousreply 16407/26/2020

It didn't stop Bonnie Raitt.

by Anonymousreply 16507/26/2020

Ok. Some of you have convinced me to give TM a chance. I'll listen to her five most popular songs on YT. However be real boys. SE had a hit duet with Kenny Rogers. SE was cool enough to be on Miami Vice. SE had a residency at Caesars Laughlin longer than any other artist including Billy Barty and Sheils and Yarnell. SE is descended from Scottish royalty.

by Anonymousreply 16607/26/2020

[QUOTE] SE is descended from Scottish royalty.

*snort* so am I!!!

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by Anonymousreply 16707/26/2020

Sheena’s mum was a withered glasgow factory worker, not exactly royalty.

by Anonymousreply 16807/26/2020

R164 Teena also had a bit of a coke problem , didn’t she?

by Anonymousreply 16907/26/2020

R137 Teena certainly had some black in her most nights, 7 inches minimum.

by Anonymousreply 17007/26/2020

if Teena was hanging out with Rick James and Linda Blair, then she almost certainly did coke and probably slept with them both.

by Anonymousreply 17107/26/2020

Sheena Easton had the sort of bland, non-descript voice that worked to a certain extent in a number of genres. There was nothing particularly special about it, so when she sang with Kenny Rogers, it came across as watered-down country. When she sang R&B, it became watered-down, R&B-adjacent pop. When she went for a more contemporary 80's feel, like on "Telephone", it came out like watered-down New Wave. When she sang the James Bond theme, it was far less dramatic and "James Bond"-y than the prior themes by Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Paul McCartney & Wings, and Nancy Sinatra, and became just another ballad.

Basically, what she did was bring everything she touched to the middle-of-the-road, where most of the record buyers were back then. And that's not a put-down. Her voice was what it was: nice and pleasant to listen to, and very commercial. I don't think there's anybody who thinks "ugh, that Sheena Easton, I just can't STAND her voice, it gets on my nerves".

I think Prince worked with her because a) she was decently pretty, b) she was even shorter than he was, so she wouldn't tower over him in videos or on stage, and c) as bland as her voice was, she could still sing circles around most of the no-singing bimbo female artists he'd worked with up to that point. (OK, Sheila E was no bimbo because she could really play percussion, but she was never more than a passable singer).

I always thought it was funny how she pretty much copied the Olivia Newton-John career template: start out as a sweet, innocent "good girl", and then just as things start to dry up, get really, really slutty and suggestive.

by Anonymousreply 17207/26/2020

What an odd pairing, Sheena and Teena were totally different kinds of performers. Sheena was nowhere near Teena's level of talent.

by Anonymousreply 17307/26/2020

Sheena had talent though , compared to twats in the same era like Manet and Hagdonna.

by Anonymousreply 17407/26/2020

Please. Madonna had talent and so did Janet, in their own way.

by Anonymousreply 17507/26/2020

Sheena has little stage presence.

by Anonymousreply 17607/26/2020

The Lover in Me still jams to this day, but Sheena could not dance to save her life!

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by Anonymousreply 17707/27/2020

[quote] And that's not a put-down. Her voice was what it was: nice and pleasant to listen to, and very commercial. I don't think there's anybody who thinks "ugh, that Sheena Easton, I just can't STAND her voice, it gets on my nerves".

I think this was intended as faint praise, r174. But you cannot underestimate the value of having a pleasant voice. There are very few of them, especially today. When you look across the landscape of contemporary female singers there are NO "pleasant" voices. Lots of shrieking, shrill, hoarse, bellowing voices that I cannot listen to for more than a few minutes.

Sheena did an album of standards "No Strings" and her voice is really unusually lovely.

by Anonymousreply 17807/27/2020

"No Strings" shows up her interepretive skills, though. A fine reader of lyrics, she is not.

by Anonymousreply 17907/27/2020

Sheena for the win. She is perfectly fine.

Teena Marie oversang everything. I automatically hear Portuguese Love in my head at the sight or mention of her name. SHUDDER!

by Anonymousreply 18007/27/2020

R36- Because...I did heroin with Nikki Sixx!

by Anonymousreply 18107/27/2020

R180, if PL doesn't stir your soul, then you don't have one.

by Anonymousreply 18207/27/2020

R172, thanks for your opinion. I like Sheena’s voice and vocal phrasings. She was willing to try different things and didn’t get stuck in a musical rut like most other “commercial pop singers”.

by Anonymousreply 18307/27/2020

R182 - I do, and it's judging you for your preference for caterwauling.

by Anonymousreply 18407/27/2020

R180: very white

by Anonymousreply 18507/28/2020

I had a childhood friend whose mother was almost a dead ringer for Sheena Easton, and this was in the 80s. She would actually get stopped in public because people thought she really was Sheena.

by Anonymousreply 18610/05/2020

I just can't bring myself to look at the result, let alone read the thread, because I just don't want to know how wrong so many of you are!

by Anonymousreply 18710/05/2020

🎶 bump

by Anonymousreply 18802/21/2021

Nobody gave face and played to the camera better than Sheena.

by Anonymousreply 18902/21/2021

As a white listener to the two top R&B stations in Philly in the 1980s, WDAS and Power 99, I can honestly say Teena Marie was a respected icon and an idol and her music was in heavy rotation at both stations.

I never once heard Sheena Easton given a second of air time.

by Anonymousreply 19002/21/2021

Sheena not only sang a Bond theme, they put her in the title sequence. Take that, Dame Shirley.

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by Anonymousreply 19102/21/2021

R190 that’s because outside of Sugar Walls and The Lover In Me Sheena didn’t score r&b hits. She was a pop singer.

by Anonymousreply 19202/21/2021

Such a sad post breakup song. Sheena nails it.

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by Anonymousreply 19303/24/2021

[quote] Such a sad post breakup song. Sheena nails it.

Probably 1/3 of Teena Marie's catalog is comprised of staggering, achingly beautiful post breakup songs. It is her forte, see "Casanova Brown" at r5. On that count, she wins easily.

"Sunny Skies" reminds me of my first 'breakup.' I was in college and he was my FIRST. He told me he wasn't really gay and that we couldn't be together again. I didn't go to class for a week.

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by Anonymousreply 19403/26/2021

Teena Marie was RnB

by Anonymousreply 19503/26/2021

Teena was cool, but honestly, her songs weren’t as memorable.

by Anonymousreply 19603/26/2021

[quote]Teena Marie oversang everything.

This. And she didn’t seem to have much range. Her singing was yelling.

by Anonymousreply 19703/26/2021

r194, I love that song by Teena - Sunny Skies. It is on my Teena Marie Faves playlist available on Apple Music.

by Anonymousreply 198Last Thursday at 3:21 AM

Some fun reviews circa 1989 for Sheena Easton's THE LOVER IN ME album.

Rolling Stone review 1989

"The Lover In Me" (MCA) by Sheena Easton has got to be one of the most satisfying comeback albums this year. A new label and a clearer musical vision stretches Easton's vocal gifts considerably. Adopting a genuine R&B dance mode, the album's material overall is quite strong and is destined to garner Easton many new fans. Of the L.A. & Babyface productions on the album, the hit title track, "Days Like This" and "No Deposit, No Return" are the standouts featuring the production duo's customary style. One of our favorites is the Angela Winbush penned and produced "Fire and Rain," a sultry, soulful and very Isley-ish slow number that we hope clicks at radio

by Anonymousreply 199Last Thursday at 3:24 AM

Some fun reviews circa 1989 for Sheena Easton's THE LOVER IN ME album.

People magazine, December 5, 1988:

Anyone who likes to see Maseratis used to plow snow or filet mignon ground into hamburger may like this record, in which Easton does a convincing imitation of a fourth-rate R&B singer. Maybe she got turned around by her collaboration with Prince, in which—during the U Got the Look video—she groveled around in a fashion that would have been humiliating to the most desperate starlet, let alone to a singer of Easton's stature and talent. Prince produced two of this album's 10 tracks (with little of the distinction he often shows on his own records), and the rest were done by such dance poppers as Babyface and Jellybean Benitez. Easton just blares away, fighting a losing battle against the rhythm backgrounds on the hotter tracks and sounding nondescript on the ballads, except Without You, where she sounds so much like Streisand it seems an outright imitation. That just accentuates the revolting developments of Easton's recent career.

by Anonymousreply 200Last Thursday at 3:26 AM
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