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Johnny Depp and Amber Heard’s courtroom showdown is off to an explosive start

Johnny Depp admitted in court Tuesday that he has taken “every drug known to man” — but insisted he was not a “monster” who beat ex-wife Amber Heard.

Depp was quickly confronted over his heavy drug use, troubled childhood and his notorious hotel-trashing tantrum in New York after he took the stand in the UK’s High Court on the first day of his three-week libel case.

The 57-year-old actor repeated an earlier confession that he taken “every drug known to man” by the age of 14 — but insisted he was not the “wife beater” he was called by The Sun, the newspaper he is suing.

His ex-wife had “said to the world that she was in fear of her life from me, and I had been this horrible monster, if you will,” Depp told the court, insisting it was “not the case.”

Instead, she was the abusive one, he said, with his barrister accusing her of concocting “a catalog of ever more extreme and shocking lies.”

The “Pirates of the Caribbean” star admitted having used cocaine, ecstasy, LSD, mushrooms and cannabis, calling them the “only thing I found to numb the pain.”

Complaining of a difficult childhood, he said he struggled with his fame, explaining, “Even when I speak my own name, it sounds foreign to me.”

He denied having a “nasty, angry side” even as he was confronted about trashing a New York’s Mark hotel in 1994.

The Sun’s lawyer Sasha Wass suggested Depp was someone who often expressed his anger by “trashing” hotel rooms.

She took him through one such incident when he was said to have inflicted almost $10,000 worth of damage on a New York hotel room.

“I don’t know the exact amount of damage,” Depp said when it was suggested he caused $100,000 in damage, dismissing it as “a few dents. Yes.”

He blamed it on a “particularly bad couple of days,” saying, “I was angry. That didn’t mean I had an anger problem. On that occasion I chose to express my anger.”

The court also heard a statement from actress Ellen Barkin, who said Depp had thrown a bottle of wine across a hotel room on one occasion and had gotten jealous and angry.

“Untrue,” Depp replied, saying Barkin held a grudge.

Depp’s lawyer, David Sherborne, also read an extract from a 2015 tape in which Heard called the actor “a f–king baby” during an alleged attack, the Daily Mail said.

“You got hit … but I did not punch you,” Heard, 34, told him on the tape, according to report. “I did not f–king deck you. I f–king was hitting you,” the Mail said.

Depp’s legal team is using the tapes to show that the Hollywood star’s ex was behind the violence in their marriage as he sues The Sun newspaper for libel for an article that branded him a “wife beater.”

“He is not and never has been a wife beater,” Sherborne told the High Court hearing, according to the Evening Standard.

The tapes help prove that Heard was the violent one, the barrister said, according to the Standard.

“Ms. Heard has invented these stories of serious violence,” Sherborne said.

Depp painted himself as the peacemaker who tried to de-escalate things. “Whenever it would escalate, I would try to go to my own corner, as it were … before things got out of hand,” he said.

Depp and Heard arrived by separate entrances at the court on the first day of the three-week trial, one of the first to be held in person since Britain began to lift its coronavirus lockdown. Both wore face coverings over their noses and mouths.

Proceedings have been spread over several courtrooms to allow for social distancing.

Depp’s claim centers on an April 2018 story in the British tabloid headlined: “Potty – How can JK Rowling be ‘genuinely happy’ casting wife beater Johnny Depp in the new Fantastic Beasts film?”

While Heard isn’t on trial, the case is also a showdown between the former spouses, who accuse each other of being controlling, violent and untruthful during their tempestuous marriage.

Witnesses are likely to include Depp’s former partners Vanessa Paradis and Winona Ryder, both of whom have submitted statements supporting the Hollywood star.

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by Anonymousreply 168July 23, 2020 6:07 PM

Team Johnny all the way!

Fuck that lying, money-grubbing skank.

by Anonymousreply 1July 7, 2020 3:47 PM

Team No one

by Anonymousreply 2July 7, 2020 4:02 PM

They deserved each other.

by Anonymousreply 3July 7, 2020 4:41 PM

Sounds like Johnny is a violent, drunken mess.

But only when provoked by a psycho, violent mess.

by Anonymousreply 4July 7, 2020 6:42 PM

Dear Johnny Depp, Fire Your Lawyers:

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by Anonymousreply 5July 7, 2020 11:39 PM

R5

Wow, he looks like shit! Depp is a perfect example to stay the fuck away from drugs.

by Anonymousreply 6July 7, 2020 11:46 PM

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by Anonymousreply 7July 8, 2020 12:05 AM

She's a horror.

by Anonymousreply 8July 8, 2020 12:10 AM

I hate when they do that, r7.. Just takes the bloom right off the rose, somehow.

by Anonymousreply 9July 8, 2020 12:11 AM

[quote]he decided to divorce her when she shit in their bed

what about his wig?

by Anonymousreply 10July 8, 2020 12:13 AM

Does this apply to them?

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by Anonymousreply 11July 8, 2020 12:16 AM

They both are morons. What makes old men think young women are into them?

by Anonymousreply 12July 8, 2020 12:19 AM

Those awful extensions on Heard...ugh.

by Anonymousreply 13July 8, 2020 12:19 AM

Heard looks great though. I like her, what is that, a scarf, or bandana she's using as a face covering.

I wonder if I could pull off something like that. I have a couple of those gaiter masks that go all around the head/neck, but they make me sweat.

by Anonymousreply 14July 8, 2020 12:28 AM

They both looked good with the mask on. Johnny should leave the mask on.

by Anonymousreply 15July 8, 2020 12:29 AM

Wonder what Girlfriend thought about the bed-shitting incident. I would have heaved on her shoes and walked out.

by Anonymousreply 16July 8, 2020 12:33 AM

I wish John Waters would come out of retirement an remake Scenes from a Marriage with Amber and Johnny.

by Anonymousreply 17July 8, 2020 12:39 AM

She’s a stunner. Ka-Ching girl take that foolish old man for all he’s worth!

by Anonymousreply 18July 8, 2020 12:42 AM

In Depp's defense, this is the cleanest I have Ever seen his hair!

by Anonymousreply 19July 8, 2020 12:45 AM

I've said this before, this was a mistake to take her to court. Instead of letting this fade away he's made it front page tabloid news.

This is all anyone is going to remember about him

They are both crazy

by Anonymousreply 20July 8, 2020 12:47 AM

I still love Johnny Depp and I probably always will.

by Anonymousreply 21July 8, 2020 12:54 AM

"A pint of whisky and four lines of cocaine for lunch: Johnny Depp's libel trial is shown a picture taken by Amber Heard of his skull and crossbones 'pill box' and mountain of drugs and alcohol."

That is the headline in the Fail article today which I won't bother to link as Muriel doesn't allow working links to that fascist place.

by Anonymousreply 22July 8, 2020 6:59 PM

I’ll have that for lunch too.

by Anonymousreply 23July 8, 2020 7:35 PM

She's a piece of shit who went into marriage with the intenent of taking notes and pictures to blackmail and exploit him. He's a crybaby rich boy who has lived a life of excess, and obsessing of the sadnesses that nearly all of us has known, but few have the riches to be able to distance themselves from. They're both tiresome and vile. A murder/suicide would have been a tidy way for this to wrap up.

by Anonymousreply 24July 8, 2020 8:17 PM

With lunch like that, I'm surprised he ever got any work done.

by Anonymousreply 25July 8, 2020 8:21 PM

Send them away from the trial, and delay, until they get proper masks.

They BOTH looked fucked up with they have on.

by Anonymousreply 26July 8, 2020 8:35 PM

did you see girl power Amber arrives holding hands with her lawyer (no mask) and some other broad? Barf.

by Anonymousreply 27July 8, 2020 8:37 PM

R7 except Heard divorced him. So that’s bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 28July 8, 2020 8:40 PM

The best possible result for JD from this idiotic lawsuit is the public concludes they were both abusive and awful to live with.

Pay attention Harry and Meghan: Just because you CAN sue, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

by Anonymousreply 29July 8, 2020 8:44 PM

Meghan is getting Doria to live in so together they can record Hal's unreasonable behavior prior to the LA divorce and financial settlement in Megh's favor. Hal's trustees better be ready.

by Anonymousreply 30July 8, 2020 8:50 PM

Look at Amber Heard's body language during her deposition, and then look at Johnny's.

Hint: She's a shit actress

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by Anonymousreply 31July 8, 2020 9:01 PM

She's Vanessa Paradis' mom right?

by Anonymousreply 32July 8, 2020 9:12 PM

R31 what am I supposed to be seeing?

by Anonymousreply 33July 8, 2020 9:19 PM

Slap her, M'Lynn!

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by Anonymousreply 34July 9, 2020 12:41 AM

from the Daily Mail

Johnny Depp 'joked' with Paul Bettany about setting Amber Heard on fire and 'f***ing her burnt corpse to make sure she's dead' or drowning her to 'make sure she's not a witch' - and threatened to put their dog in the microwave

Johnny Depp 'took his daughter to school with Marilyn Manson and then went on a drugs bender with the notorious heavy metal star'

by Anonymousreply 35July 9, 2020 12:45 AM

Both insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 36July 9, 2020 1:08 AM

R33, you're supposed to be able to see that Heard is a shitty actress who is obviously lying. Depp, in contrast, is an excellent actor and may or may not be lying. If his brutally honest testimony in court today is any indication, he doesn't seem like a big liar.

by Anonymousreply 37July 9, 2020 1:31 AM

R33 you can't see Amber's histrionic, exaggerated body movements vs. Johnny who's just sitting there and calmly explaining his version of events?

Amber looks like a little kid tattling to her parent trying to get their older sibling trouble.

by Anonymousreply 38July 9, 2020 6:46 AM

R27 The "some other broad" is Amber's sister, Whitney.

by Anonymousreply 39July 9, 2020 6:53 AM

Why did Johnny Depp bring her to court again? I missed why this is in the UK... Don’t get me wrong I’m thoroughly enjoying this messiness as a much needed distraction.

by Anonymousreply 40July 9, 2020 11:35 AM

R40 he’s suing a UK tabloid for calling him a “wife beater.” She’s there to give testimony. He has another lawsuit against her specifically.

by Anonymousreply 41July 9, 2020 11:38 AM

Depp is suing The Scum. Amber is a witness for The Scum.

by Anonymousreply 42July 9, 2020 11:40 AM

Thank for filling me in! R41 & r42 I’ve missed old fashioned messy celeb gossip.

by Anonymousreply 43July 9, 2020 11:42 AM

Heard and Depp are both white trash chronic meth addicts.

Emphasis on the [bold]trash[/bold] part.

by Anonymousreply 44July 9, 2020 11:44 AM

R7 I can't imagine holding my lawyer's hand as I sashay up to the front door of the courthouse. Amber was out partying last night by the sounds of things.

by Anonymousreply 45July 9, 2020 11:46 AM

Apropos of nothing, r11 is a useless stat that MRAs love to parrot.

Yes, both men and women can be violent, but most serious battering situations that lead to substantial injury, stalking, and murder involve male perpetrators and female victims. In situations where the violence is "bilateral" the woman is often classified as a "perpetrator" because she was defending herself. For context, OJ Simpson considered himself a "battered husband." EVERY SINGLE physically abusive man I've known in my life has accused his wife/girlfriend of being the aggressor, and it's bullshit. When the police show up at the door, he claims self-defense.

I have a good friend in a domestic violence situation. It's tragic. And I can't fucking stand MRA apologists who excuse abusive pieces of shit.

by Anonymousreply 46July 9, 2020 11:51 AM

Also, the empirical research of John Gottman, who has studied the ways violent couples argue (in a lab setting), confirms r46

by Anonymousreply 47July 9, 2020 11:59 AM

r45, my friend is her L..A. neighbor. She parties pretty much every night...she loves her "coconuts".

by Anonymousreply 48July 9, 2020 2:21 PM

The Fail has a set piece on this saga and is enjoying every minute of the spectacle. Muriel bitch won't let us link the Fail so thanks to her you will have to search the headline: "Amber Heard arrives at court with her squad hours after hitting the town with her sister until the small hours of the morning - as Johnny Depp prepares to take the stand for a third day of trial"

Why does Lebanese Amber hold hands with her lawyer but not her girlfriend?

by Anonymousreply 49July 9, 2020 2:33 PM

Do we have photos of the bed?

Asking for a friend.

by Anonymousreply 50July 9, 2020 2:34 PM

Apparently Amber was leary of marrying Johnny because of the behavior he exhibited before marriage. Now she knows firsthand. And they're dragging each other through the mud.

by Anonymousreply 51July 9, 2020 2:34 PM

[quote] The Fail has a set piece on this saga and is enjoying every minute of the spectacle.

You think this is good, wait until the Fail puts Meghz amd Markle-pere on the stand. It is going to be a bloodbath. The Fail is insured for court cases/costs; Meghz probably not so much.

by Anonymousreply 52July 9, 2020 2:39 PM

£m in legal fees will be Meghan's bill for her trouble; she may be excused the VAT.

by Anonymousreply 53July 9, 2020 2:41 PM

I've known a few people like Johnny Depp. Nice guy when sober but turns into a fucking asshole when drunk. The guy will spew racist shit, argue, become violent etc.

by Anonymousreply 54July 9, 2020 2:42 PM

He already can’t keep his story straight. First Heard didn’t give a shit about his substance abuse, then she enabled it, then she was concerned. Now there are texts from him to her thanking her profusely for pushing him to get clean.

by Anonymousreply 55July 9, 2020 2:45 PM

They're both trash.

Great article at R5.

by Anonymousreply 56July 9, 2020 2:53 PM

She's always been a terrible actress. She was good-looking when young, if a little basic.

by Anonymousreply 57July 9, 2020 2:56 PM

Johnny looks worse than Keith Richards and that’s saying something.

by Anonymousreply 58July 9, 2020 2:58 PM

Have Pistol and Boo released a statement yet?

by Anonymousreply 59July 9, 2020 3:00 PM

When they came together.

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by Anonymousreply 60July 9, 2020 3:03 PM

Johnny depp must be one insecure cunt, kept accusing her of sleeping with other men. I bet he was too wasted for his cock to work.

by Anonymousreply 61July 9, 2020 3:28 PM

He can't stand the fact that she called him on his bullshit and left him. He's still trying to control the narrative and control her, which is what this libel trial is all about. It's sinking his reputation by bringing up all the crap the public was just beginning to forget about, but he clearly doesn't care about that nearly as much as, once again, getting to call his ex a cunt in public.

by Anonymousreply 62July 9, 2020 3:43 PM

R5 isn’t his lawyer David Sherborne who also represents the U.S. sweetheart M.Markle?

by Anonymousreply 63July 9, 2020 4:27 PM

I get Catherine Tramell vibes from her.

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by Anonymousreply 64July 9, 2020 4:51 PM

She's canny like Catherine, but I don't think she's able to strategize and play the long game. Plus, she's super twitchy.

by Anonymousreply 65July 9, 2020 5:39 PM

R57 She's still young (and good looking)

by Anonymousreply 66July 9, 2020 7:04 PM

R66

The sanest she may not be but...

She is the best looking person of the whole Depp family.

by Anonymousreply 67July 10, 2020 5:46 AM

R67 Amber's not a part of Depp's family

by Anonymousreply 68July 10, 2020 10:23 AM

R68 That’s why she is beautiful

by Anonymousreply 69July 10, 2020 11:05 AM

Agreed r20, they obviously were in a mutually consensual abusive relationship where the fights were the big draw. She briefly tried to profit off of that, realized quickly it wasn't going to work and backed off. Johnny isn't that smart. I can't figure out why he's so obsessed with the idea that this will clear his good name, when we've seen video and read texts and heard testimony showing he's a fucked-up mess.

by Anonymousreply 70July 10, 2020 11:13 AM

R69 His daughter is part of his family and she is beautiful

by Anonymousreply 71July 10, 2020 11:34 AM

Johnny was beautiful when he was Amber’s age.

by Anonymousreply 72July 10, 2020 12:42 PM

I watched the Rum Diary recently and she was staggeringly beautiful in it. She would have benefited from drama school, because the camera does love her.

by Anonymousreply 73July 10, 2020 12:48 PM

R73

Beautiful.

Beautiful body and beautiful face.

And yes the camera loves her.

by Anonymousreply 74July 10, 2020 1:03 PM

Too bad the psychopath in her cancels out the beauty

by Anonymousreply 75July 10, 2020 1:58 PM

R75

No Sweetie

It adds.

by Anonymousreply 76July 10, 2020 2:57 PM

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by Anonymousreply 77July 10, 2020 3:51 PM

[quote] Amber Turd

Well that's a nickname that's definitely going to follow her.

by Anonymousreply 78July 10, 2020 3:55 PM

Former assistant Kate James, who worked for Heard between 2012 and 2015, characterised Heard as a “classic bully” and said she was “permanently scarred by the experience.”

She also delved into the abuse allegations that both parties had levelled against each other, claiming she “never saw any sign of an altercation, or even the aftermath of a serious and messy fight in the way that Amber describes” despite being with Heard nearly every day for three years.

She said, “Amber was regularly verbally and mentally abusive and would often scream at me in that way, over the smallest things. She would fly into blind rages where no-one could reason with her, and even if I was trying to offer an explanation, I didn’t think that she could hear me as she was so angry.”

Claiming her time with Heard had affected “my mental and physical health”, she said, “I ultimately became emaciated due to the extreme stress and the fact I had no time to eat with the crazy workload she bombarded me with constantly.”

She also alleged that following Heard’s continued usage of drugs including MDMA and mushrooms, Heard would reportedly lash out at James in a string of texts - which she claims have now been deleted.

James said, “The assortment of drugs and a great deal of wine would mean that when I woke up in the morning, there would almost always be a barrage of incoherent abuse sent to me from Amber by text between around 2am and 4am. I discovered later that she had gone ahead and deleted all evidence of abusive texts from that ICloud account.”

Other encounters James described with Heard included one in which Heard missed a flight connection over Christmas.

James, who says she was with her aunt who was visiting at the time, claimed the star then called her “screaming abuse at me for literally hours as though I had made it snow and caused the disruptions to the flight.

She also described how Heard had reportedly been “very controlling and paranoid about anyone else being in [Johnny Depp’s] space”, which included her.

Characterising Depp as a “thoughtful and kind, and a genuinely decent person”, James said, “Amber hated me talking to Johnny, even if it was just polite small-talk, she would give me the evil eye if she found me having a conversation with him.”

She continued that she would sometimes bring her son to work with her and recounted how Depp “would be there and would hang out with him, teaching him how to play the guitar.”

She said, “I would never have left my son with Johnny while I was working if I had any concerns about him whatsoever.”

Calling working for Heard an “exercise in daily humiliation”, she said, “With the benefit of hindsight, I now recognise Amber’s behaviour towards me as mental abuse. It still makes me extremely emotional to speak of my experience of working for her. I feel that I am permanently scarred by the experience.”

“I felt constantly embarrassed that someone so much younger than me could make me feel so worthless. Amber was a classic bully. She enjoyed making me feel stupid,” she finished.

She later touched on Heard’s allegations that Depp had abused her, saying, “In the three years that I worked for Amber, I would go to her house almost every day, including on weekends. I would not announce when I was going to attend the apartment to drop things off or pick things up, so it would regularly be without notice. I never saw any sign of an altercation, or even the aftermath of a serious and messy fight in the way that Amber describes in her statements.”

She continued that she “never saw any physical violence by either Amber or Johnny”. James claimed, “I understand that the period of my employment overlaps with the majority of incidents in which Amber has alleged that Johnny was violent towards her.”

“I never once saw any bruising, swelling, or any evidence of what could have resulted from violence. I would often see her naked, or semi-naked, when she was getting dressed or at fittings. I was around her a lot, often 7 days a week,” she said

by Anonymousreply 79July 10, 2020 5:52 PM

r79, can you post a link from the assistant?

by Anonymousreply 80July 10, 2020 7:59 PM

[quote]“I ultimately became emaciated due to the extreme stress and the fact I had no time to eat with the crazy workload she bombarded me with constantly.”

She worked with her for three years! Why did she stay? It wasn't during an economic downspell so it's not like she couldn't have found work elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 81July 10, 2020 11:28 PM

Cackling at the assistant. All of these people are nuts.

by Anonymousreply 82July 11, 2020 4:09 AM

The assistant made the mistake of laying it on way too thick to be believable.

by Anonymousreply 83July 11, 2020 4:30 AM

Shade

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by Anonymousreply 84July 11, 2020 4:35 AM

[quote] I would never have left my son with Johnny while I was working if I had any concerns about him whatsoever

I can believe she'd think he's nicer as a person than Heard. But really? No concerns about the drug fuelled wreck babysitting her son?

by Anonymousreply 85July 11, 2020 4:51 AM
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by Anonymousreply 86July 11, 2020 9:27 AM

Johnny Depp's daughter actually liked Amber and thought she was a good influence on Depp and made him a better father. She told him to stick with her or something.

by Anonymousreply 87July 11, 2020 1:20 PM

What kind of trash puts “lots of drugs” on a wedding/rehearsal invitation? I doubt even in the 70s people did that.

They really both did deserve each other.

by Anonymousreply 88July 11, 2020 9:41 PM

The idea that women can not be perpetrators or aggressors has been disproven many times. Women are not all sweet, caring, nurturing, maternal beings. They are humans, just like men. They can be abusive, violent, aggressive, angry, intoxicated etc.

The idea that men can't be victims at the hands of women is an extreme feminist position. It is not what actually happens in everyday life.

by Anonymousreply 89July 11, 2020 9:58 PM

It seems clear that Amber, a lesbian with huge ambition, saw Depp as her ticket to stardom. (They all think they can be Nicole Kidman now, just marry a big star and wa-la!).

Looks as though she provoked and perpetrated most of the physical violence, trying to get Depp to beat the crap out of her to give her the ending and the payday she was looking for. Depp, a drunken slob and never a clever boy, took quite a while to catch on but even so he didn't take the bait.

If he were actually a wife-beater, he'd have literally beaten her to a pulp. He never did.

She's lying she set him up and while I usually support the women in these things because they are usually the victims, I like that she's getting absolutely demolished in this case. She deserves to lose.

by Anonymousreply 90July 17, 2020 6:12 PM

You have to admit that suing the paper first was an excellent strategy.

He gets to get all the dirt out WITHOUT directly attacking Heard and raising the hackles of the general public. Also, when he wins, Heard is going to have a very difficult time proving that she's the victim.

The case does not seem to be going well for her side. It's actually rather amazing how blatantly it seems she's lied and how willing people were to believe her.

by Anonymousreply 91July 17, 2020 6:17 PM

[Quote]marry a big star and wa-la!).

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 92July 17, 2020 6:18 PM

It's obviously intentional, R92.

by Anonymousreply 93July 17, 2020 7:16 PM

Amber stealing her former assistant’s rape experience as her own and using it against Depp really shows what a psycho bitch she is. Hope she never gets another big role again.

by Anonymousreply 94July 17, 2020 7:42 PM

[quote] If he were actually a wife-beater, he'd have literally beaten her to a pulp.

you're so fucking funny. I think you are retarded

by Anonymousreply 95July 17, 2020 7:50 PM

[quote] You have to admit that suing the paper first was an excellent strategy. He gets to get all the dirt out WITHOUT directly attacking Heard and raising the hackles of the general public

Yep. You're definitely retarded or maybe it's just drugs? Either way, you are just so stupid. What's it like to live in some alternate reality?

Most people don't know he's suing the newspaper. They think he's suing her. And all the bad stuff coming out about him is making him poison to movie studios around the world. She doesn't come out as an innocent victim, but she's young. He's old and he acts like this. He's mental and while most people thought he was a simple weirdo, he has chosen to share his insane drug/drink fueled exploits with the entire world. He's a real Genius

by Anonymousreply 96July 17, 2020 7:56 PM

R90 *bisexual

by Anonymousreply 97July 17, 2020 8:04 PM

I can't believe anyone paying attention to this trial thinks Depp is coming out a winner. All the horror we've heard so far was HIS evidence. The Sun hasn't put on their defense yet, and yet Depp is already established as a dirty violent blackout drunk/druggie who lost all his money and gave his daughter drugs. The best result possible for him at this point is both he and Heard come out looking like horrible people.

He would have been better off going away for a while, coming back after a stint in rehab, refreshed, clean, and ideally with a great movie to promote. All would be forgiven/forgotten. He's such a fucking idiot.

by Anonymousreply 98July 17, 2020 8:05 PM

R98 Well, then you haven't been paying the attention to the social media and forums. He does comes out as winner. Absolutely no one is behind Amber any more. It's been proven that she's not only an abuser but a psychopath and just a fucked up person. And ruined lives of many people, not just him. Now, does he comes off as a pathetic middle aged man that is dragging his life drama through the media? To me, yes. But majority of people fallowing this case aka the fans don't see it that way

by Anonymousreply 99July 17, 2020 8:18 PM

Amber has a recording of Johnny's employee saying the only reason she gave a bad statement against Amber is because Johnny's lawyers bullied her into it. She admitted lying in the statement that was used in court against Amber. She also goes on to say that Johnny's assistant Kate, had a personal vendetta against Amber

R91, you are so right. Johnny is definitely a GENIUS.

This is some Charlie Sheen style WINNING.

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by Anonymousreply 100July 17, 2020 8:22 PM

R93

Voilà, voilà...

by Anonymousreply 101July 17, 2020 8:26 PM

R99, those fans were 100% behind him and never believed Amber in the first place.

Among the broader public, Depp is a bigger laughingstock than before.

by Anonymousreply 102July 17, 2020 8:28 PM

R102 No, he isn't. Give me some examples. Anywhere you go online, you see people calling out Amber for being a liar and an abuser.

by Anonymousreply 103July 17, 2020 8:34 PM

Amber Heard is a liar.

by Anonymousreply 104July 17, 2020 8:40 PM

R103 Uh, right here on this website. Read any comments on any articles on anything that's come out of this trial so far. Lots of "they're both awful" takes. And again, The Sun has just started it's case, so it's likely lots more bad stuff about him is coming.

by Anonymousreply 105July 17, 2020 8:43 PM

[quote]She also goes on to say that Johnny's assistant Kate, had a personal vendetta against Amber

Kate was Amber's assistant and paid by Amber, not Depp.

by Anonymousreply 106July 17, 2020 8:43 PM

Yeah, Heard doesn't look great, but Depp looks worse. The public was just starting to forget about their shitshow of a divorce, and now he's raked it all up again.

by Anonymousreply 107July 17, 2020 8:49 PM

Kate was the assistant who was fired and was blamed for messing up the paperwork for the dogs' entry to Australia. Depp publicly blamed her at the time as well and supposedly was also warned about bringing the dogs in.

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by Anonymousreply 108July 17, 2020 8:52 PM

R105 Come on, you are giving me DataLounge as proof? Be serious now

by Anonymousreply 109July 17, 2020 8:53 PM

Try googling then. I'm not going to play this game where no evidence is going to be good enough because you keep moving the goalposts.

by Anonymousreply 110July 17, 2020 8:56 PM

R107 Well, Depp will still have a career after this. He's in those stupid J.K.Rowling kids movies these days. But the again. That's all he was doing for the last 20 years. Wearing costumes in kids movies. Amber on the other hand, will never work in Hollywood again. Maybe in some trashy reality show.

by Anonymousreply 111July 17, 2020 8:56 PM

He brought the case. Stupid.

by Anonymousreply 112July 17, 2020 8:57 PM

[quote] Well, then you haven't been paying the attention to the social media and forums

You are so funny. HYSTERICAL

the internet is full of people who believe COVID is a hoax and that wearing face masks can be fatal. That doesn't mean it's true

Isn't it almost time for your daily dose of bleach?

by Anonymousreply 113July 17, 2020 8:59 PM

I did. I've been following this case from the beginning on various forums and Twitter. Even the people who were initially against him, and that was a lot of women who supported Amber, the alleged domestic violence victim, are now on his side after so much evidence against her came out. Fuck, even the lesbians on LChat have given up on her

by Anonymousreply 114July 17, 2020 9:02 PM

R113 Wow, you sure showed me. With those hard facts. Go drink bleach? That is the best you got? Really? Pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 115July 17, 2020 9:03 PM

I think some people just don't grasp that reactions to this trial don't have to be either-or. Lots and lots and lots of people can, have, and will decide Johnny and Amber are both pretty awful. In fact, anyone who can't see how awful both of them are is an idiot or hopeless stan.

by Anonymousreply 116July 17, 2020 9:07 PM

Money is wasted on these idiots. I’m continually amazed that folks that rightly hate spoiled rich brats don’t loathe celebrities as well. A penthouse for a closet? 30k a month on wine? 5 million to shoot someone’s ashes out of a cannon? Absolutely vile.

by Anonymousreply 117July 17, 2020 9:08 PM

Also: we know Depp spends $0/on toothpaste.

by Anonymousreply 118July 17, 2020 9:17 PM

r111, she's going to be in Aquaman 2. Both Fantastic Creatures and AQ are WB properties, so if they fire one, they'll have to fire the other one. or else look bad. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place, because it doesn't look good if they keep both as well.

by Anonymousreply 119July 17, 2020 9:26 PM

R119 No chance in hell she'll be in Aquaman 2

by Anonymousreply 120July 17, 2020 9:40 PM

Her bruises look perfectly straight. Probably hit her self with a phone.

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by Anonymousreply 121July 17, 2020 9:41 PM

Neither of them are going to be in anything other than the Jerry Springer Show at this rate.

by Anonymousreply 122July 17, 2020 9:47 PM

[quote]Yeah, Heard doesn't look great, but Depp looks worse. The public was just starting to forget about their shitshow of a divorce, and now he's raked it all up again.

The public will would more readily forget about his being a drunk or drug addict or even weak. They will not forget about him being an abuser.

As ridiculous as this trial may or may not be, if he's mostly innocent of her claims, he really didn't have much choice. Except for the Fantastic Beasts movies, roles have dried up. As long as the accusations go unchallenged, he's screwed. If nothing else, this trial is casting much more doubt on Heard's claims and introducing a big enough opening for studios to be able to cast him again and point to some fairly large gaps in her story.

by Anonymousreply 123July 17, 2020 10:15 PM

"if he's mostly innocent of her claims"

Except we already know he's not. He's admitted to being a violent drunk who smashes and destroys things. He sent her apology texts calling his violent self the "monster.." He wrote on the walls in his blood. And then he was forced to admit he gets blackout drunk and simply can't remember everything he does. Which begs the question how he can be so sure he never actually hit her or threw anything at her. The only question left is whether he actually intentionally struck or threw something directly at her. At this point, so what? He's still an asshole even if he didn't. Again, at best, he's painted a picture of a mutually abusive, toxic relationship. He would have been better off letting the story die and coming back looking rested and cleaned up. Plenty of people were happy and ready to give him he's second (really third or fourth, considering his history of violent behavior) chance. Now anyone who pays him a dime for anything looks like a sucker.

by Anonymousreply 124July 17, 2020 10:25 PM

r120, as of now, she is, but her role is greatly reduced. I'll let you know otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 125July 17, 2020 10:41 PM

Even if Johnny had a better rep, I don't know how much career he really has left. He looks awful, and apparently can't get through a scene without an earpiece reading him his lines. Who wants that? I mean, I guess the FB series does, but why is still a mystery to me . . .

by Anonymousreply 126July 17, 2020 10:44 PM

Got to admit. I was on her side at first but now it seems like they’re both out of control booze and drug addicts with a lot of money and no off buttons. Then again, Johnny Depp likes them to match his crazy. Winona, Kate, now Amber.

Fuck he’s nuts.

by Anonymousreply 127July 18, 2020 12:25 AM

R124 So what if he likes to destroy his own property? What dies that has to do with the trial? He was accused of being a wife beater when all the evidence point to her being the only one that physically assaulted him. And she wasn't even called husband beater by any magazine. Plus, who wouldn't get wasted and destroy rooms when being married to this deceitful psychopath

by Anonymousreply 128July 18, 2020 2:13 AM

R128, he has a long track record of destroying other people's property, long before he met Heard. And someone tearing up a room in a violent drinking rage is pretty scary even if he's smashing up his own stuff.

Pretty sad the length his fans will go to justify his assholery. No wonder Depp comes across like such an entitled prick.

by Anonymousreply 129July 18, 2020 2:17 AM

Depp stans are as delusional and fucked up as Michael Jackson fans and THAT is saying something. Your boy is disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 130July 18, 2020 2:19 AM

I am always surprised at how gross celebrities actually are. They have all the money in the world, enough to buy help to straigten out their lives, and yet most US celebrities are nothing more than disgusting tasteless white trash.

by Anonymousreply 131July 18, 2020 2:22 AM

Heard lied.

by Anonymousreply 132July 18, 2020 2:25 AM

Not just disgusting, but so callous about it. Who cleaned up Depp's blood from the walls? I doubt he did. We know his maid was stuck cleaning up Amber (or her friend's) shit in the bed. Which Depp first claimed made him so upset he decided to divorce her, but then was confronted with texts where he said it was the funniest thing ever.

The cleaning staff should be suing Depp and Heard and wringing them dry.

by Anonymousreply 133July 18, 2020 2:26 AM

YES R133! What sort of lowlife bleeds all over the place, paints the walls, trashes places most people would die to live in and them expects working class people to clean it up?

A vile POS - that’s who.

by Anonymousreply 134July 18, 2020 2:29 AM

[quote] I think some people just don't grasp that reactions to this trial

We actually grasp that this trial is against the tabloids. Not Amber Heard. We also understand that he's already done the tabloid defense team's work when he admitted he headbutted her.

Even crazy ass donald trump pays to keep unflattering things about them out of the press.. Depp's had every unflattering aspect of his life splashed across the tabloids. And for what? The british tabloids will mention every hideous thing about him in every single article they write about him from now on.

Even if he wins, he loses

by Anonymousreply 135July 18, 2020 3:18 AM

R116 people deciding that both are pretty awful sounds like an improvement from before, when he was considered awful and she a saint and a spokesperson for domestic abuse survivors.

by Anonymousreply 136July 18, 2020 3:52 AM

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by Anonymousreply 137July 18, 2020 6:47 PM

Depp just seems to be so incredibly stupid its hard to believe. Any older man marrying a much younger woman should realize its never about love but old men's egos are just insane.

by Anonymousreply 138July 18, 2020 6:59 PM

r138, He seems to have a touch of the Peter Pan syndrome to me.

by Anonymousreply 139July 18, 2020 7:30 PM

Johnny Depp has been famous since he was 24. It's often said that the age you become famous is the age you freeze emotionally, and clearly Johnny was a VERY young 24-year-old.

by Anonymousreply 140July 18, 2020 7:31 PM

I know many guys like Johnny Depp. When they are sober, they are nice, when they are drunk or high, they are fucking assholes and get violent and unpredictable.

Imagine you are living with a man like this, you do not know who is gonna show up, Jekyll or Hyde. You are on eggshells most of the time. He apologizes to her when he sobers up and professes his love for her etc all other kinds of BS, that he'll change or some such shit...then 24hrs later, he's the same drunk asshole again...

by Anonymousreply 141July 18, 2020 7:32 PM

[quote]We actually grasp that this trial is against the tabloids. Not Amber Heard.

Yes, but the only defense against the accusation against the tabloids is that they printed the truth.

[quote]Truth is an absolute defense to libel claims, because one of the elements that must be proven in a defamation suit is falsity of the statement. If a statement is true, it cannot be false, and therefore, there is no prima facie case of defamation.

Therefore, the tabloid's only defense is to PROVE Heard wasn't lying and they printed the truth.

by Anonymousreply 142July 18, 2020 7:34 PM

He was an unstable asshole with Winona, Kate, and Amber. No word from Vanessa, though. I wonder if she's keeping quiet for the sake of their kids or if they genuinely had a different dynamic.

by Anonymousreply 143July 18, 2020 7:35 PM

[quote]He was an unstable asshole with Winona

Not according to Winona's sworn affidavit, he wasn't.

Here's the real problem with this thread. The somewhat logical presumption in this thread is that believing Heard lied is somehow support for Depp or defending his character.

However, you can think Heard lied and manipulated the media and #MeToo without wanting or needing to defend anything about Depp other than he didn't beat her as she claimed he did.

I don't particularly like Depp. But, Heard lied and should not be rewarded for it. Fortunately, she's banging Musk now, so doesn't have to worry about making any more movies to support her lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 144July 18, 2020 7:42 PM

r141, my father was like that- such a nice and funny guy when sober, but really physically abusive and out of control when drunk (my younger brother claims that he has PTSD from the abuse). Then he found out he had Hep C as part of a battery of tests when he had Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis, and that was that.

r144, Musk gave her the boot a while ago.

by Anonymousreply 145July 18, 2020 7:48 PM

[quote][R144], Musk gave her the boot a while ago.

LOL - I hadn't realized they broke up that long ago.

I admit that makes me laugh since the most recent testimony is that she was sneaking Musk into their home when Depp was out (or something like that).

by Anonymousreply 146July 18, 2020 7:56 PM

There is a longstanding rumor in Hollywood that Winona's drug problem came from the painkillers she started after Depp accidentally shot her while playing with an antique gun while high as fuck. The studio hushed the whole thing up, but she was never the same.

I'm not saying it happened, but if it DID happen, she'd never admit it.

by Anonymousreply 147July 18, 2020 7:58 PM

R143 What are you talking about? Both Winona and Vanessa testified that he was never violent with them and had nothing but words of praise for him. While many of the people from Amber's past, going back to her being a teenager in Austin, came out saying that she was always manipulative and aggressive. She and Elon broke of, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is still supporting her financially

by Anonymousreply 148July 18, 2020 8:06 PM

Winona never had a prescription pill problem. It was a defense used by her lawyer to make her look more sympathetic in her shoplifting defense.

by Anonymousreply 149July 18, 2020 9:27 PM

Witness statement

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by Anonymousreply 150July 19, 2020 2:53 PM

[quote] What are you talking about? Both Winona and Vanessa testified that he was never violent with them and had nothing but words of praise for him.

They didn't testify. And yes, Winona had a big drug problem. When she got caught shoplifting she had heavy duty drugs on her, morphine or demerol and benzos. It wasn't like she had one or two, she had bunch of them. Hardcore addicts don't go anywhere without their stash

And just recently I saw pics of Johnny and winona and johnny has bandages on him. I also remember when he was arrested for getting into a crazed drunken fight with kate moss and he trashed the hotel room

Even if none of this was true, it doesn't matter how he was with them. It only matters how he behaved when he was with Amber. And he's admitted to assaulting her

by Anonymousreply 151July 22, 2020 2:15 AM

My good friend was married for about 25 years and her husband went from an occasional coke habit to a raging cokehead.He was never abusive until the last year of their marriage. She had to leave when he started choking her because she wanted to sleep on the couch. Then last year he was arrested for punching a girlfriend every incident coincided with coke use. So it’s very easy for me to believe that Depp only became physically abusive in the last few years as his drug and alcohol problem ballooned.

by Anonymousreply 152July 22, 2020 4:03 AM

God this all brings back Horrible memories of trying to live with a psycho BPD boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 153July 22, 2020 4:42 AM

R153 I agree. Having to deal with borderlines is one of the most exhausting, painful, mindfucks anyone could ever experience. In this case, it's Amber not Johnny. I worked w/ Johnny. It's not him.

In the latest release from the court case, the Depp/Heard nurse said that Amber told the nurse that she was bipolar, had dependence issues, and an eating disorder.

Several witnesses and that Amber drank 2 bottles of red wine per day.

Can our DLers who are experienced w/ cases of addiction, alcohol abuse, bulimia, as well as experts in plastic surgery and fillers, explain what is going on with Amber's face. It is a giant moon face. Is it because her excessive drinking has caught up with her, is it bulimia swelling, aging, fillers, or weight gain due to food or psych meds?

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by Anonymousreply 154July 22, 2020 6:23 AM

Amber's current fat face...

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by Anonymousreply 155July 22, 2020 6:24 AM

Her face where she looked fantastic...

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by Anonymousreply 156July 22, 2020 6:30 AM

Reminds me of the dirt in the old National Enquirer of days gone by. And it appears to be true. She saw a mark in Mr. Depp.

by Anonymousreply 157July 22, 2020 8:01 AM

R157. Yep and it's sad. I worked with Johnny. He's kind and thoughtful. He's not the villian.

by Anonymousreply 158July 22, 2020 8:05 AM

What a couple of nuts. I'll give Heard a small amount of credit for using common sense and not doing the nutjob straight woman thing of getting pregnant to "save " the relationship. Some women will continuously drag child after child into an insane coupling, hoping each time that another baby will somehow heal everything .

by Anonymousreply 159July 22, 2020 8:18 AM

It's a bad photo R154, plus she's gained about 10 lbs and isn't movie weight anymore. That's about it.

You'll come up with something about "addiction to booze and facelifts" of course.

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by Anonymousreply 160July 22, 2020 8:19 AM

R160 I don't think that is just gaining 10 lbs. It's something more. I'm just trying to understand the cause so as to not make the same mistake.

But, I will admit that in these Covid-19 times, it's hard pulling myself out of bed. I get up, pee, eat a "health food" raspberry "Pop Tart" and crawl back into bed hoping that this is just a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 161July 22, 2020 8:45 AM

R147 I remember this gossip way back in the day.

Amber may be a gold digger (duh!) but Johnny Depp has emerged as a mid life crisis suffering spoiled brat with anger and alcohol/drug issues.

Any beautiful 20/30 something dating a man in their 50’s or older is there for the $$$. Even Johnny Depp knows that, just doesn’t want to admit it.

by Anonymousreply 162July 22, 2020 10:34 AM

R159 Why would she want to het pregnant to save the marriage when she never married him for love? She had a plan from the beginning

by Anonymousreply 163July 22, 2020 11:21 AM

I've worked with Amber, and she's was painfully thin-she couldn't fit into her costume, so her "fat face" is actually her normal face. . Also keep in mind she's a party fiend (my friend lives next door to her L.A. house, and she will party til dawn), so she might be puffy from that too.

by Anonymousreply 164July 22, 2020 3:02 PM

I have no trouble believing Johnny Depp to be a fucking asshole when drunk/high.

He has a lot of anger issues. He's short and probably small in the penis department. All that comes out when he's drunk and he's in his 50s, there is no way he can get it up or stay hard with the booze and drugs he partakes in. Hence accusing Amber of having affairs with all her co-stars etc...

I also had a friend who would be violent with his partner(now ex) when doing coke, he was arrested but his rich family would convince the partner not to press charges so the asshole never went to jail.

by Anonymousreply 165July 22, 2020 3:13 PM

Johnny is repulsive. His poor children. What a trifling role model.

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by Anonymousreply 167July 23, 2020 1:41 AM

Wtf?

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