Ray Fisher Says Joss Whedon Was ‘Abusive’ to ‘Justice League’ Cast & Crew

Are we really supposed to feel sorry for these whiny pampered celebrities?

Black is empowered now. You cannot be questioned. They can make any claims they want.

If Fisher loves that rightwing douchebag Zack Snyder then that tells me all I need to know about Ray Fisher

Who?

FFS, Everything and everybody is "abusive" these days.

What are the details or can people just make broad, sweeping generalizations that might destroy someone's career and reputation?

I confuse Whedon and JJ Abrams.

Both are bitch baby nerds.

Ray is cute. He also pings. I hate that he had his teeth done to get rid of his gap

[quote]What are the details or can people just make broad, sweeping generalizations that might destroy someone's career and reputation

Josh's ex-wife launched the first salvo years ago. It didn't hurt his career.

Joss admitted that for the next decade and a half, he hid multiple affairs and a number of inappropriate emotional ones that he had with his actresses, co-workers, fans and friends, while he stayed married to me.

I believed, everyone believed, that he was one of the good guys, committed to fighting for women’s rights, committed to our marriage, and to the women he worked with. But I now see how he used his relationship with me as a shield, both during and after our marriage, so no one would question his relationships with other women or scrutinize his writing as anything other than feminist.

"The director was mean to me!" Cry me a fucking river.

In general I think a good rule of thumb is that straight men suck, but I still don't understand how having a lousy marriage equals not being a feminist. If a gay man cheats on his husband is he automatically homophobic? Maybe he just didn't love you, lady.

Suck it up, buttercup!

Whedon is a pig and Hollywood knows it.

So, he had multiple affairs. Why should that impact his careers? R9, nowhere in that article did his ex-wife safe he was abusive like Ray Fisher did so why bring it up? How does his infidelity or supposed pretend-feminism directly relate to his behavior on a movie set?

If Joss was abusive and unprofessional onset then that should be dealt with, but his infidelity has nothing to do with his onset behavior.

FWIW, I'm not some Whedon stan. I didn't watch Buffy and I didn't watch whatever superhero movie(s) he directed.

I agree with R14 and I wouldn't be able to pick Whedon out of a lineup even after seeing his picture, so I couldn't give a shit about him.

WTF does having affairs have to do with feminism? If a man cheats, that doesn't mean he won't hire women to work with him or trust their judgment on projects, it just means he fucked around on his wife. Women fuck around on men and women, too. Cheating on your spouse means you no longer have respect for your spouse - not every other man or woman on the planet.

[quote]If Joss was abusive and unprofessional onset then that should be dealt with, but his infidelity has nothing to do with his onset behavior.

Because he reportedly had affairs with the actresses and other talent he worked with which many viewed as an abuse of power.

Is that why Ezra Miller has lost his damm mind? First he choked a fan, then that crazy video of him talking nonsense, then a couple of weeks ago I saw some young filmmaker (forgot the name) in Las Vegas say online that he saw Miller high as a kite walking barefoot with no mask on going down a Vegas street. Should we chalk it up to abuse on the Justice League set?!

Remember he also fucked over Charisma Carpenter because she dared to have a baby without his direct approval.

Numerous people have said Joss Whedon was a psycho asshole.

He gave us Michelle Trachtenberg.

I can't fucking stand when these celebrities post about "abusive" conduct and then don't say what it is. If you've got something concrete to say, say it.

Lol, Zach snyder is a right wing conspircay loving nut bag. Why aren't these conservitards veing called out? Snyder is also known to abuse his power for sleeping with actresses. Snickering must have been a buffet for him.

Agreed R21. Details or STFU

I wouldn't be suprised. All of the Justice Leauge actors are entitled awful bitches but Joss Whedon is a man child with a huge ego. That set does not sound fun at all.

The black actress who called out Lea Michelle was careful to point out that her abuse had a racial dimension which is why she unveiled it at this time. Fisher by spilling this tea at this time is clearly hoping to make that association as well, but he better be able to show some receipts.

R25 Yes she did that but there's absolutely no proof she was right because as all the comments showed Michele was a bitch to everybody without discriminating any race.

She could pull that because people was eager to trash Lea, but that won't work with everybody

It's show business. Whinny bitch actors drive me crazy. Oh it was so hard and he is so mean, blah, blah, blah. It's supposed to be hard that's why you make the big bucks. Keep it up and no one will cast you.

Samantha Ware at least gave details. And she was responding to Lea Michele talking about BLM. Ray Fisher just seemed like he woke up and was like..."fuck Joss"

R26 "People were eager to trash Lea ". I really think a lot of these social media pile ons are directed towards those who people are already inclined to dislike.

R29 Probably, i remember people trashing Novak Djokovic for saying men should win more than women on tennis. Rafa Nadal said exactly the same and the reaction was very different.

I just want to know which actresses he's fucked. This gossip is pointless without names.

I hate Joss Whedon

R31 allegedly he likes the twigs: Alyson Hannigan, Summer Glau, Amy Acker, the girl who played the lead in his Shakespeare movie and has never worked since.

R30, did you mean earn?

Why is DL suddenly supporting Joss Whedon?

If you're gonna call someone out, R35, call them out with receipts.

[quote]After the 32-year-old Justice League star, who plays Cyborg in the DC Universe, announced that he retracted his support for the director earlier in the week

So he issued support just earlier this week, and now he’s retracting it?? Sorry, but I can’t take people seriously when they flip-flop, especially so quickly.

I don’t know who this Joss guy is but he’s ugly as hell so I don’t know why anyone would fuck him.

Google is your friend R38.

[quote]So he issued support just earlier this week, and now he’s retracting it?? Sorry, but I can’t take people seriously when they flip-flop, especially so quickly.

Two days ago Ray posted a clip of himself at 2017's Comic Con saying how the film was in good hands with Whedon and captioned the post that he "forcefully retracts this statement".

its for the best that actors can speak out. because for every 1 actor that a director is terrible to, they probably traumatize 20 unknown crew members. And before twitter, actors had no way to speak out about this stuff in a way that was proportional.....or the actor would be called difficult while the director could keep getting nuttier and nuttier. and in many cases, these guys end up assaulting crew members, sexually assaulting actresses, etc and the studio doesnt care because if the movie makes money, they'll keep working with them. its not good for anyone, even the directors. the more their behavior is accountable, the better they will behave. and the more we can enjoy their movies because when someone is a monster, they often disappear the second their hot streak ends.

"I'm not a Buffy/Marvel geek at all and I don't stan Joss Whedon and didn't even hear of his name until today, BUT I completely 100% don't believe this in the slightest!!!!!"

IS THE SAME AS:

"Lifelong Liberal Democrat here who voted for Obama twice, BUT Hillary/Biden..."

TROLLS. Marvel shill trolls.

[quote]Why is DL suddenly supporting Joss Whedon?

Because Disney/Marvel has their shills ready with alerts with any topics in order to defend Marvel at any cost and degrade WB/DC.

[quote]Is that why Ezra Miller has lost his damm mind?

Well it's definitely why I'm so exhausted all the time!

Does Henry Cavill have any comment?

[quote]Why is DL suddenly supporting Joss Whedon?

Oh, I'm sorry r35, where are my manners? Let me grab the tar, feathers, pitchfork and torch that I keep for just these occasions. It's the new world order where anyone accuses someone of something and we, the dutiful mob, must immediately galvanize to castigate and destroy the accused. I mean, who needs little things like details, proof and due process, right?

Whedon's bad reputation goes back to his Buffy days.

David Boreanaz (not exactly a saint himself) will neither work with him again nor talk about the years he worked on Angel and Buffy.

Whedon is another case of an asshole who as long as he delivered product, the studio looked the other way. It's almost always white males who get this special treatment.

Perhaps Whedon is close to the tipping point where looking the other way becomes a liability to his employers.

Is she was actually fucking Whedon that kind of lends credence to the rumors that it was actually Alyson Hannigan that was the evil queen bitch on the set of Buffy.

Wait. Actors don't get to complain about a psycho boss. I say good for him for calling out these ego maniacs that are enabled in that business.

[Quote] Does Henry Cavill have any comment?

Or SMG?? Or Gal???

Asshole film directors with god complex need to be smacked down hard.

Geoff Johns is a really despised man.

First that female film exec and now this...

I hate when people claim abuse, then won’t even say what exactly they did or give examples.

Ray will never work again.

I don't know why such an unknown would ever risk pissing off somebody like Whedon AND making himself look difficult to work with in one fell swoop. He either comes from money so he doesn't have to worry about his career or he's genuinely so stupid and egotistical (as young actors nowadays often are) that he thinks this won't affect his career at all.

[quote] I don’t know who this Joss guy is

The words "the 56-year-old director and producer" in the original post was not enough of a hint?

R52 what happened with Geoff??

All the Twitter comments talking about Ray's bravery and how it's "so true"

He...didn't say anything.

Gal and Jason have a ton of pull seeing as how their films are successes and turn a profit. Gal used her clout to have Mnuchin removed as a producer on WW84 because she can't stand Trump.

Henry has a little pull since their was such a fan uproar over the possibility of him being replaced as Superman.

This guy, Affleck and Ezra are expendable.

R18 That WAS fucked up. Cordelia was my favorite character.

I wonder if this will have any effect on The Nevers.

R60, I've heard rumors that cocaine was involved in Carpenter becoming [italic]persona non grata[/italic] on her show, and directly from a former co-star that she was an emotional basket case at the time.

[quote]Is she was actually fucking Whedon that kind of lends credence to the rumors that it was actually Alyson Hannigan that was the evil queen bitch on the set of Buffy.

I recall Whedon making a number of snarky comments about Sarah Michelle Gellar at the time, but in retrospect it really just seems like she was professional and businesslike rather than drinking the Kool-Aid about him being a genius auteur.

Coke while pregnant?

[Quote] I've heard rumors that cocaine was involved in Carpenter becoming persona non grata on her show, and directly from a former co-star that she was an emotional basket case at the time.

I wonder what it was like with Glenn Quinn on set.

Stories I have heard repeated many times: both SMG and Joss felt the other never gave them enough credit for the show's success. She being the face, him being the story. Easy to believe.

Until a few years ago, SMG rarely talked about Buffy. I'm glad she's come around to appreciate it, but...yeah.

Because of Glenn Quinn's drug issues and overdose, Joss (or someone else in charge) got the idea that Charisma was going overboard (I forget if it was drugs or alcohol) and staged an intervention. It didn't go well and their relationship took a major hit. IIRC, her issues with whatever substance weren't that deep and she got over it.

Supposedly, she had a miscarriage or 2 before her son and didn't tell Joss and the creative team that she was pregnant until she was halfway (or so) through the pregnancy. Understandable. They got pissed about it because they had to do a lot of rewriting.

When he asked her to come back for 100th episode, her stipulation was that she wouldn't die. He lied, she signed the contract, she was pissed when she got the script but got over it because it was a beautiful exit.

[Quote] Until a few years ago, SMG rarely talked about Buffy. I'm glad she's come around to appreciate it, but...yeah.

I feel like she goes ott with it on her social media.

According to some gossip he caused the feud between Allyson Hannigan and Amber Benson on Buffy by pitting them against each other with "she said this about you behind your back! She's such a bitch!" stunts.

Shitty films, shitty people.

All this stuff is lame.

[Quote] shitty people.

Gal and Jason are shitty???

I'm not saying that I don't believe what he's said, but I really hate it when people make these accusations without any specifics or details of particular situations that occurred, which could then be confirmed by others. It doesn't help with the credibility.

Joss does have a problematic history in other respects but I don't think I've seen anything about him being abusive before so I definitely would like to have more details before I have an opinion on this.

I went to look at Ray Fisher's IMDb page and he really was a total unknown when he got cast as Cyborg, wasn't he? He'd been on one episode of The Astronaut Wives Club and then wham, superhero in the world's biggest franchise. Even his earlier theater credits on Wikipedia seem somewhat scant -- I thought maybe he'd been a big Broadway actor first but even that's not the case. And since the movie he's only done that terrible third season of True Detective.

Maybe he’ll elaborate soon.

R72 I thought that was strange too.

The fact that he has almost no other acting credits suggests we could have another Klinton Spilsbury situation on our hands.

IIRC Brandon Routh was also plucked for obscurity and also subsequently disappeared after doing Superman Returns... wonder what his issue was. Other than a cameo in Scott Pilgrim, he basically had no high profile work until he got cast as Michael Urie's boyfriend in a very short lived CBS series from the creators of Will & Grace. His career was subsequently rescued by Greg Berlanti.

The guy doesn't have a career and is seeing an opportunity to latch himself on to a movement that could give him a chance at restarting his career. 3 years ago when Snyder wasn't even allowed near JL he was talking up Joss, but now all of a sudden he's working with Snyder again he shits on Joss, it's pretty obvious.

If you are going to accuse someone in a position of power you need to do it way better. This is too vague and of course having some proofs or a lot of witness always help

"Is she was actually fucking Whedon that kind of lends credence to the rumors that it was actually Alyson Hannigan that was the evil queen bitch on the set of Buffy."

Oh, SMG still holds that title and it is well deserved. She treated especially the little people aka crew members like crap. Also she seriously believed that she was destined for a big superstar career and that Buffy the tv show was beneath her. She should not have listened to her idiot husband but alas...

Now she posts on social media how proud she is of the show and the role because she knows that it gives her likes and clicks. Funny how things work out.

His ugly mug is proof that anyone will sleep with a Hollywood Power Mover just to become rich and famous!!! I'm telling you the casting couch is a myth. Everyone is a whore in Hollywood and they're all willing to do anything to strike gold!

Even me.

R80 there are MUCH uglier men in Hollywood

To her credit, R79 she had a decent film career for awhile.

What R81 said. Whedon looks like Brad Pitt compared to old Harvey.

No one gives a flying fuck about Jason Momoa or Zionist pig Gal Gadot.

R82 It always baffled me how someone as rich as Harvey always looked like he was in the middle of a bender.

R84, truly one of the ugliest men to ever walk the earth. I mean at least get your body into shape and maybe the face would be less repulsive. he made no effort whatsoever in improving his physical appearance and chose instead to make his personality even uglier than his looks.

r84. They get off on the fact that they know they are fugly but still have girls begging, or "begging", them to fuck them to give their lives meaning (as in making them famous). They get off on the idea that they've gamed the system to their advantage.

Looks like after his bitching someone volunteered to make a Cyborg movie. But who would pay money to see this guy by himself?

I would, I thought his performance was one of the highlights of the largely mediocre movie. I came into it resenting Cyborg being included as a founding member of the Justice League rather than the Martian Manhunter (I knew Warner Bros. was going to treat Green Lantern like toxic waste after that Ryan Reynolds movie), but Fisher won me over. Plus, a Cyborg movie means Joe Morton in a significant supporting role, which is always a good thing.

[Quote] Also she seriously believed that she was destined for a big superstar career and that Buffy the tv show was beneath her. She should not have listened to her idiot husband but alas...

She did have a decent career in movies. Things cooled down after The Grudge. What did FPJ do??

[Quote] Now she posts on social media how proud she is of the show and the role because she knows that it gives her likes and clicks. Funny how things work out.

It is rather ironic. She seems to be doing well with Foodstirs.

r88, I've appreciated Joe Morton since, "Brother From Another Planet".

r89, do we have a Buffy gossip thread? Or can someone make one? Because there are a lot of stories to share.

r91, Google, " Buffy Datalounge" and you will have a myriad of threads to choose from.

So Kevin Smith has inserted himself into this overblown drama by stating the rumors he's heard were that Joss would trash Snyder and his version of the film during filming of the reshoots. Fisher is trash for using a social movement to reboot his career that never took off.

Ray Fisher has a vendetta against Joss.

Charisma Carpenter is over it (IIRC) and what exactly does Joss cheating on his wife have to do with you, Ray?

Either shit or get off the pot, Ray -- I guess he's fishing for a cover story but if he's not going to say what the hell he's talking about why should we listen? Charisma should tell him to fuck off with this nonsense, grouping her in with his vague BS when she told her story already and has probably put it behind her

[quote]I've appreciated Joe Morton since, "Brother From Another Planet".

[italic]Terminator 2: Judgement Day[/italic] is the first thing I can recall noting him in. He always gives a great performance.

He's trying to use other people's issues with Joss because he realises he fucked up by stating something so vague in the first place.

R91 here

Ray is a fucking idiot and will probably never work again.

The plot thickens...

Joss wanted to shoot a "comedic" scene that sexualized Wonder Woman but Gal Gadot would not have it.

So he took her in a locked room, berated her and threatened her career.

He eventually filmed the bit where Flash falls on top of her with a double who hid her face.

Ezra Miller, who played The Flash, claims you be a huge feminist who believes in the "believe all women" thing. Why would he agree to do that without a fight? I doubt Whedon would have done it had two of the big stars stood up to him.

The sources for r101s information are several nobodies on twitter -- I feel as if it should not be reported as a "fact"

Hi Joss!

R102, Ezra has done a lot of shit that doesn’t make any sense. He has made a big deal out of being queer but he has publicly only dated women.

R105 That's par for the course nowadays, though. We've invented labels so straight people don't feel left out of "being special".

R106 Isn't he is a open relationship with several people or something like that? And yes, i remember when some gay webpages made a big deal of him getting the Flash role when the fact he only dated women publicly. Of course they are the same media that praised Lucas Hedges for his brave coming out (i know he came out but i still don't know as what apart of being an hypocrite).

Anyway Ezra seems a little lost lately. It's a pity because his career started really well

It's fine to have an open relationship. It's not fine to be a serial cheater. Also, only an idiot shits where he eats. You don't screw around with your coworkers and especially not your FANS (which, I'm assuming, is code for underage fans.)

[quote] The sources for r101s information are several nobodies on twitter -- I feel as if it should not be reported as a "fact"

Charlie Nobodies, that's who!

Just a heads up, the link at R99 has almost zero gossip about Whedon and behind the scenes of the show. It’s just everyone bloviating over “Hush” and how much they hate season seven.

I resent the time I spent reading through it.

[Quote] It’s just everyone bloviating over “Hush” and how much they hate season seven.

Season 7 looks great compared to the shit that gets released nowadays. Especially for a teen show.

I think it’s the third strongest season.

Buffy always was an uneven show, amazing episodes followed by so so ones. Seventh season had great things and the show had a great final

R3 Snyder sucks and his movies are terrible, but he has a reputation for being one of the nicest people in showbusiness.

Whedon created a show over 20 years ago that is still well regarded today, a spin-off that lasted 5 seasons, a few cult tv shows, wrote and directed two of the biggest movies of all time and is now working with HBO on a new tv show.

Snyder has directed multiple uneven and bad movies, created something called vero and has a cult like following.

Fisher was in a failed movie and is now more famous for making vague allegations.

Who out of those three do you think Hollywood is going to back?

R112 for me that would be season 5.

Buffy's best:

Season 3

Season 2

Season 5

Season 1

Season 6

Season 4

Season 7

Angel's best...

Season 2

Season 1

Season 3

Season 4

Season 5

Prime Buffy: 2-3 and then it would 5, 4, 1, 7, 6.

Prime Angel: 2 and 5 and then the rest 3, 1, 4.

Season 5 of Buffy gets my vote as best. “The Body” and “The Gift” are probably the two best episodes of the show, and it’s silly SMG wasn’t Emmy-nominated that year.

The most consistent was probably 3, but it didn’t pack the same emotional gut punch as 5 or even 2, in my opinion. I also think 4 is underrated.

[quote]Why is DL suddenly supporting Joss Whedon?

Do you really have to ask R35?

The fact that he cheated on his wife multiple times while claiming to be a feminist makes him a rancid pile of shit no matter what.

R121 or you’re just a raging fucking moron

I’d be abusive to Ray Fisher if it got him off.

Fuck off you prick defender R122 go back to masturbating to Buffy reruns.

[quote]Now she posts on social media how proud she is of the show and the role because she knows that it gives her likes and clicks. Funny how things work out.

I completely understood why she dodged all things Buffy after the series ended in order to attempt to establish herself. I'm also happy she eventually realized it's the most prolific things she has done or probably ever will done. I still remember the day she posted on Twitter herself standing next to a Buffy piece of memorabilia and people were shocked she finally acknowledged it in a real way.

[quote]Remember he also fucked over Charisma Carpenter because she dared to have a baby without his direct approval.

This was when I decided I hated him. Then I started reading all of the other stuff about him. I think the weird thing about the Charisma incident was that even though she says she thought they finally made up years later as she once remarked, he still has yet to attempt to cast her in anything else.

At least she still looks great and is one of the most beloved characters from the series.

I know that I’m in the minority but I have always enjoyed Zack Snyder’s films. Justice League always seemed like an unfinished film to me so I am happy that I will get to see the full film.

[Quote] it's the most prolific things she has done or probably ever will done

Are you sure you mean prolific? Significant?

I suppose prolific would apply in terms of the number of episodes she appeared in, [italic]Buffy[/italic] outdoes her run on [i]All My Children[/i] in that respect.

I always liked Charisma and she's survived some truly awful stuff, the idea for her to get impaled on a piece of rebar in one episode of Buffy reportedly came from the fact that she had actually been impaled on a piece of rebar as a kid and then there was that horrific incident where she and her boyfriend were attacked by a violent psycho and her boyfriend was slashed multiple times.

Did he ever say exactly what the abuse was? If not, why bother bringing it up?

[Quote] I think the weird thing about the Charisma incident was that even though she says she thought they finally made up years later as she once remarked, he still has yet to attempt to cast her in anything else.

Seems like Alexis, Amy and Richard J are the only ones to do other work with Joss outside of Buffy/Angel.

A throwback for old Buffy fans, the stunt couple from way back when are speaking out. It's nothing that wasn't mentioned at the time.

Pruitt's parable from way back when.

You don't achieve greatness without insulting or offending someone's fweelings. Sowwy.

I honestly do not understand how cheating on one's wife is incompatible with being a feminist. If I cheated on my husband I wouldn't be a misandrist, I'd just be a dick. Whatever their personal bullshit was that's between two people and has nothing to do with one's feelings toward the rights of an entire gender.

R132 of course those two had to say something. For once they left Sarah out of it.

Forcing Sophia out because her husband left on bad terms was a really shitty move, and everyone I knew in the fandom at the time agreed. She was an [italic]excellent[/italic] stunt double and I never heard about her getting mixed up in any of the office politics before her departure. But Jeff did himself no favors with that parable and other wackiness that went on. If I remember correctly, he and whoever was responsible for building those gigantic set pieces that dominated the season finales were at each other's throats , and it sounded like that was not a fun set to be on behind the scenes.

I think the fake feminist stuff is more about Joss crowning himself king of the feminists while perving on much younger employees who had to keep him happy to keep their jobs. It's not so much that he cheated on Kai, it's the power dynamic he had with the women he cheated with.

[Quote] I think the fake feminist stuff is more about Joss crowning himself king of the feminists while perving on much younger employees who had to keep him happy to keep their jobs. It's not so much that he cheated on Kai, it's the power dynamic he had with the women he cheated with.

Wish more of the Buffy fans understood that.

Cry us a river, Ray. Welcome to Hollywood!

He's trying to be the male Mo'Nique.

R139 that is from JULY 2.

F&F.

Isn't Tudyk a closet case?

If they didn't want abuse they should have read the script!

R144 you make a good point.

Have we talked about Ray's hairline?

R146 receding?

He’s not giving up.

[quote]Ray Fisher to Joss Whedon: ‘Sue Me for Slander’ if ‘Justice League’ Abuse Allegations Are Untrue

LOL - good answer.

Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams were both the wonderkids of the early 2000s whose egos got much bigger than their actual talent which, let's be honest, was only relatively better than others producing similar fare during the same period.

They've both been shown to be talentless hacks, riding on their past glory, a term I use loosely, by the by.

He's going the full Mo'Nique. Perpetuating a feud where the other half doesn't even bother to respond. Responding to yourself is just pathetic.

His barber went uncredited. The horror.

Ug I hate assholes but give me a role as a DC Marvel Super-hero and I’ll put up with anything

“Everything is so fragile. There's so much conflict, so much pain...you keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize this is it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along--that weird, unbearable delight that's actual happy--I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.”

He says he's been compiling evidence and people willing to talk on the record for years but decided to just come out with a vague tweet about "being bad"

He seems like a moron with no regard for his career.

I don't understand what his endgame is....

He's just stating his boundaries for the eventual big-budget Cyborg movie!

Update

"A source with knowledge at the studio tells us that no findings were made, and to preserve the integrity of the investigation, the company will not conduct it in the public sphere. There’s no specific timeline to the investigation, other than being thorough and efficient. WarnerMedia has not pre-judged Joss Whedon or Justice League producers Geoff Johns, or Jon Berg, and I hear that the inquiry is not limited to them."

Today, Fisher tweeted, “After 5 weeks of interviews with various cast/crew, @WarnerMedia as officially launched an independent third-party investigation to get to the heart of the toxic and abusive work environment created during Justice League reshoots. This is a MASSIVE step forward!”

He continued, “I believe this investigation will show that Geoff Johns, Joss Whedon, Jon Berg (and others) grossly abused their power during the uncertainty of AT&T’s merger with Time Warner.”

Blah blah blah. Someone is at the Monique school of bitching

No one else is saying a word, for or against.

I hope Ray Fisher has enjoyed his moment in the limelight. It won’t come again.

Soon he'll be broke and roommates with Dakota Johnson.

Warner Brothers: Ray Fisher has not cooperated with the investigation.

WHAT A BIG SURPRISE

OOOOOOOO THIS IS GETTING GOOD

So his complaint amounted to not being able to write his own storyline and dialogue??

How embarrassing.

Ray keeps shouting and puffing his chest but nobody ever responds to him. Nor does he go into any detail.

At least John Boyega, whether you agree with him or not, spells out his issues.

Fisher disputes the studio's claim that he did not speak with an investigator:

How long does he plan on dragging this out?

Did he learn nothing from Jussie

Popping popcorn and settling in for the show...

He seems like he’s completely full of shit.

When playing the victim goes wrong.

More screaming, no details. Is he the new Corey Feldman? Does he need a documentary?

Also, comments are cancer

Why don’t they just get another actor to play cyborg in the flash movie? Nobody would miss this guy anyway.

R174 excuse me???

The Flash already has Michael Keaton & Ben Affleck. If they leave Cyborg out is anyone going to care?

Every hero matters!

Minor heroes can always be recast. Marvel did it to War Machine. Hell, they did it to Hulk.

Just replace Cyborg with Nubia!

Is the actor playing Cyborg on Doom Patrol available?

Jason Momoa says BROS BEFORE STUDIOS

Is Ezra going to be a bro and speak out??

He's going to be a bro and choke out a ho.

Jason Momoa emerging as the star witness for the prosecution is like Joan Collins showing up at Blake’s trial at the beginning of Season 2 of Dynasty!

Not sure what’s more embarrassing, the whole Snyder Cut debacle or this nonsense

Ah MoMo, bad move. I guess he feels infallible now, with his Aquaman, Frontier, See, and Dune projects.

Oh look Ray. Someone MUCH less famous accusing a studio of something and actually having the balls to say what his problem is.

Jason Momoa has posted again in support of Fisher, but people are already clapping back in the comments section because neither of them of have specified what they are complaining about.

LOLing at this comment on Mamoa's twitter:

"Why are y’all dudes so winey and don’t stand up when stuff happens? How can you lead while being scared?"

Also bumping for lazy whores.

Instead of talking about this, you bitches should be finding out who Ray Fisher's boyfriend is. Clearly he is a sister to Andrew Gillum.

And here you have a MUCH less famous actor, having issues with a studio, and having the balls to be direct. How refreshing.

r191 that guy isn't an important character, gambled and lost in his bad negotiations. Decided it's "racism"

R192 I don't watch the show so I can't address that but I'm just saying, at least he is saying what his issue is (right or wrong) while Ray just keeps vaguely yelling abuse.

Joss has responded to Ray's accusation of racism.

So now Ray is involving himself in some drama from the new Superman show.

[Quote] I’m happy for Ray to go out and speak his truth. I wasn’t there with the guys when they shot with Joss Whedon — I had my own experience with [him], which wasn’t the best one, but I took care of it there and when it happened. I took it to the higher-ups and they took care of it. But I’m happy for Ray to go up and say his truth.

MAURY, I AM OUT ON CONTROL!

What a fucking idiot

I'd actually listen to him if he said what his issues were. Vague accusations are easy to ignore.

Jovian Wade is waiting by his phone, smiling.

I've heard enough about Whedon from other quarters (including his own smug mouth) to believe practically anything. And he's the first person I recall Gal Gadot ever having a problem with, which is pretty telling. But Fisher's complaints so far mostly seem to consist of "my role got cut down," which, ask Henry Cavill how many lines he had in the previous movie despite being one of the two leads.

[Quote] which, ask Henry Cavill how many lines he had in the previous movie despite being one of the two leads.

I don't think it's about the amount of lines.

R202 well to be fair, we don't know because he won't say a damn thing.

R201 spill!

R203 I'm not R201 but I recall this incident in which "male feminist" Joss went after Nicole Kidman on Twitter.

Joss should become Trans 🏳️‍⚧️, then no one can criticize him.

He doesn’t even need to start wearing dresses, he can just put on nail polish 💅🏻 and lipstick 💄

Trans is beautiful!

This guy is exhausting. Good luck getting another job.

R205 don't give Joss any ideas.

I smell a bottom.

[quote] I'd actually listen to him if he said what his issues were. Vague accusations are easy to ignore.

I feel the same way. His situation reminds me a bit of when Leslie Jones said that staff members at the Ritz Carlton in LA were racist. She never went into details about what happened at the hotel. A rep or someone for a black centric website was asking her on twitter to give full details about what happened and Jones never responded to them. Also, Wendy Williams said that she would cancel at event at the Ritz that she had planned for her staff if Jones would contact her to give details. The story died down after that. I wondered if Jones way lying and her reps shut down things down once it was shown that people wanted more details on the alleged incident.

Charisma Carpenter (Cordelia, Buffy the Vampire Slayer) retells her story of mistreatment at the hands of Joss Whedon and writes that she took part in WarnerMedia's investigation on Joss in support of Ray Fisher.

How does Whedon compare to most producer/director/showrunners?

Should start a thread on all the Buffy news coming out today, with SMG and Amber Benson both confirming the toxic environment? Seems separate from this Ray Fisher person

Fisher's career is over unless someone like Tyler Perry or Jordan Peele takes him in

Fisher only had one credit after JLA. His career was over well before these allegations.

If more people come out to support Ray Fisher’s accusations, which seems to be happening now, his career is NOT entirely over.

Someone's determined to never work again

Actor Harry Lennox who has worked with both Joss Whedon and Zack Snyder, gave these comments to Variety:

R218 i hope Harry doesn't have twitter.