Princess Diana would have been 59 years old on July 1

Kate doesn't even come close to looking like this...

The I'm Worried About and Jealous Of Kate Troll gets in early, in a thread that's not about Kate.

Wow! I am older than she was when she died.

I remember my mom waking me up and she was crying and saying Princess Diana was dead. I sat with her early that morning and we watched the news. Watched the funeral with her too.

Time flies...

Diana still would have been stuck in the Princess of Wales position, had she lived and still been married to Charles.

So I guess in that sense you can't compare Kate to her because Kate isn't even the Prince of Wales yet.

Camilla is in that spot, so you'd have to compare Camilla to Diana.

I wonder what Diana would have thought of this photo?

Shock? Disbelief? Anger?

this is what matters to DL ...

Well Camilla has more of the Windsor panache than Diana ever did.

Charles should have married Camilla from the very beginning.

Then none of this royal drama ever would have happened.

Quite the schnoz on that one - -

I like Camilla, and I also like kate.

She would have been a hazbeen like Fergie

Kate doesn't have her big nose.

Same age as our beloved Marilyn.

I wonder if she would have become even crazier as she got older.

She would've had a second act that would've made Jackie O. look like an amateur. We'll never know, though.

She certainly would not have been with that creep Dodi for more than a month longer. Summer was at an end that last weekend.

I still miss Diana. It almost seems like she’s still with us. Diana was something else. One for the ages.

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slow-mo

Does anyone remember that hilariously tacky magazine cover Tina Brown crapped out several years back? The one with a photshopped picture of Diana? I can't believe anyone didn't tell Brown what a terrible idea that was.

R10, same here.

Yeah, cheers, babe.

Thanks to Diana and Sarah Ferguson, who dragged the royal family kicking and screaming into the modern era and 21st century. They paid the price, but they paved the way for a more relatable and accessible royal family. They had personality, pizzazz and a human touch. They paved the way for the grudging acceptance of Camilla, the protection that Kate received and unreasonable bitchiness of Markle. Before Diana and Sarah, royal family members has to conform or be gone. They paid the price but ultimately made it easier for those who came after them and made the royal family more popular than ever.

Fergie is a destitute beggar's Diana. She never came close to the affection and interest Diana could draw.

If that's what you call panache, R7.

Diana would have never been a saint if she hadn't died. Her reputation had been in a tailspin the entire summer of 97, with no signs of stopping. She might not have married Dodi, but she would definitely have found her Aristotle Onassis and made a further hash of things.

What did they do with the clothes she was wearing? They were some fancy shit. Also, she wasnt wearing any bra or panties that evening!

R24. Yes, Fergie has been on the outs since splitting with Andrew, but she has been somewhat accepted back via invitations to various functions and visits with the queen along the way. No, she was never going to be as popular or beloved as Diana, but for several years, she was fairly popular with the public and within the royal family. They liked her--until they didn't. And the queen still likes her. Sarah lives at the Royal Lodge and has very much a part of Andrew and her daughters' lives, so she never disappeared. Diana and Sarah were friends since they were about 15 years old. They understood each other and were allies for much of their time as members of the royal family. Their popularity and affection from the public were different (much like Kate and Markle), but Fergie had her place in the family. She screwed it up, but she's carved out quite a nice existence despite the challenges.

Absolutely R28 but if it had been Fergie in that car, the event, whilst sad, wouldn't have received a fraction on the attention or hysteria we saw with Diana's demise.

R26. Diana may have had a some time sowing her oats and finding her way after the divorce, but she was very much a believer in the monarchy, and she enjoyed the stature she had as a result of it. Plus she was good at her job throughout the years. Diana would have eventually found a place of prominence as the mother of the future king of England. She would have been wildly popular, albeit different, in her international fame and role as ambassador and bringing attention to worldwide causes. Diana's role would have changed, but she was not going disappear. Diana had matured. She needed some time away, but she was not going to disappear. She knew her influence and strengths, and I believe she would have used them to stay relevant and a force of nature. The world likes and looks toward these international figures. There are only a few of them--and Diana was at the top of the echelon. She wasn't going to give it all away. But trashy Dodi would be gone within weeks.

R27 They sent them to the dry cleaners Rose.

Bitch gave me plantar warts!

Would she have ever gotten a nose job? It's strange that she never took the time to.

[quote]r27 she wasnt wearing any bra or panties that evening!

I read the driver swerved and crashed because he was fingering her.

[quote]Charles should have married Camilla from the very beginning.

[quote]Then none of this royal drama ever would have happened.

That really would've been in everyone's best interests and the right thing to do, but unfortunately due to the protocols of the times Camilla was considered an unsuitable match for the heir to the throne. She had a bit of a reputation as a "party girl" and that was still a HUGE thing back then.

R33, she didn't need to. She was pretty in spite of it, she was rich, and she could have had any single man she wanted. And if she did have a drastic cosmetic surgery on her face, then it would be obvious to the whole world, and it would be discussed endlessly in the tabloids. Some people think she had a very subtle nose job after her divorce. (I can't tell, though.)

[quote] Camilla was considered an unsuitable match for the heir to the throne. She had a bit of a reputation as a "party girl" and that was still a HUGE thing back then.

It's funny how the Men in Gray thought that Diana would be more manageable for BP than Camilla. They saw Diana as a young, naive, teenaged girl who could be controlled.

I guess they never thought that teen aged girls grow up, and could possibly become your worst nightmare.

Diana was the most beloved human being to ever walk on the face of this earth!

There are now a whole generation of adults who have no memory of Diana (or very hazy memories) and she doesn't mean much to them at all. She's an historical figure. Really gives you a sense of the passing of time.

Times have changed: Camilla wasn't a virgin. And that's the reason Charles couldn't marry her.

Because of all that archaic nonsense, Charles married Diana and treated her like shit as did Camilla.

But as a result of the entire Charles, Diana, Camilla debacle, William was allowed to live with Kate for several years before marriage. And the virginity requirement for the heir to the throne ended forever.

I was 11 when this happened. Although I remember that summer quite well, when I look at videos from 1997, it’s a reminder of how long she’s been dead been based on the poor camera quality as do the dated styles of people.

I tend to remember 1990s as if it wasn't that long ago, but then when I see the photo/video quality of that time is seems so archaic.