DISNEY RESETTING STAR WARS; ERASING LAST JEDI

Does that mean more Luke Skywalker? I wonder what Mark Hamill thinks of this.

They should put the Breaking Bad team on it.

Fake News.

OP you report this as fact. It’s a wild rumor

Ugh. I am so Star Wars-ed out.

Will it take place before or after Professor X loses the ring of power.

They can do it. Trust me.

Doubt it.

I will always hate them for not listening to the fans and actors and not following through with Finn and Poe.

If Doomcock says it, it must be so!!!!

Very unlikely. Not only would it anger half the fanbase, they wouldn't get back Mark Hamill or Harrison Ford either (or Carrie Fisher, RIP).

No, it's more likely that they build on The Mandalorian and continue to concentrate on the early time between RotJ and TFA, a sweet spot that allows them to still use the Empire. I suspect that they will bring back Thrawn as a big bad again.

And fuck the racists on this forum who attacked John Boyega. Shit tier people.

Can they reset the Lucas prequels as well?

The original trilogy was great. Everything since has been overdone dreck. And now Disney will continue to make Star Wars films that are super family friendly and try appeal to everyone, which isn’t appealing to most adult sci fi fans. I dunno—I saw Star Wars in the theater when it came out in the 70s as Kid and even I’m glad it’s over. It’s just too much recycling, and bringing back Leía, Han and Mark H over and over again got really tiring. Mark H was especially terrible with his over-acting.

I would like to see them expand on the Mandalorian, this is the future of Star Wars.

There are a lot of rumors swirling right now.

That Kathleen Kennedy is almost out, except for the Leslye Headland / Brie Larson show, is pretty much confirmed since Favreau and Filoni appear to be involved with all the Star Wars stuff except that and Kennedy's involved with none of it.

The weirdest rumor so far is that they're considering recasting Luke with Sebastian Stan. The rumor is to do a quick guest spot on The Mandalorian and see how well it flies. I was skeptical, but it could work. Ewan McGregor was a brilliant recast of Obi Wan though I question that Stan has the same acting chops as McGregor since 90% of the illusion is how well he mimics Alec Guiness's mannerisms and voice.

This is the way.

OP do you really believe any random rumor someone writes on the internet?

Mandalorian Is great - but stunted in that Disney “must be family friendly / understandable/ enjoyable to 5 year olds and adults” way.

I can't believe Jon Favreau as a filmmaker is actually a thing.

I know his films make a ton of money, but I find them underwhelming.

[quote]OP do you really believe any random rumor someone writes on the internet?

While believing the random internet rumor mill is dubious, there are some people who usually have a good bead on what's happening.

It's like Ming-Chi Kuo on Apple rumors. Sure, he gets stuff wrong on the fringes, but he's usually very reliable on big rumors and the general shape and direction of Apple stuff.

Also, I always assume that a lot of these types of rumors are actually test balloons by the company itself to see what sort of reaction fans might have. If there is a "great disturbance in the Force... as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror" with one of these announcements, I bet they'll think twice. Whereas if there is generally more positive acceptance, they'd move forward. ALL of the backlash on the new movies was foreshadowed by wild handwringing, teeth gnashing, and wails of despair as details were leaked.

Given how badly stuff has gone with fans. Whether you like or dislike the new movies, the controversy and bitter words surrounding them are not something any media company is going to want.

The Disney Star Wars feel so clean, even when they're trying to make things look rundown in a post Empire universe. The originals worked because they had limitations.

Good! I hope they retcon out the Lesbian kiss!!!

Nobody cares about the fans. Disney will do whatever it takes to recoup their billion-dollar investment in this brand. It's hilarious that anyone, anywhere would think otherwise. Even Mark fucking Hamill has moved on. Yet the fanboys remain, always pathetic, always wallowing in their own self-pity.

Umm, hasn’t that 4 Billion dollar investment paid for itself already???

Many times over?

When Disney was marketing the franchise in China the posters made actors of color much smaller. And they've always treated their employees like shit.

So much for diversity and caring about people.

When Disney wanted to change Splash Mountain in Tokyo they in the most polite way told them to fuck off. Show boat your phony concern in America where your new IP will be much more lucrative.

Sure, Leia.

Favreau would call better shots than Kennedy.

But where does the article get off claiming there is a feud? Why doesn't it explain how Favreau is allegedly involved and how the source allegedly knows?

I really enjoyed The Mandalorian and Baby Yoda is all kinds of cute, but it isn't THAT good, really. Favreau is a mediocre talent.

R29

Disney is so unoriginal. They copied that from Baby Groot (and probably something else before it). I’m so tired of Disney.

I understand. The real world sucks. It’s an escape.

Favreau's done a lot more than THE MANDALORIAN and his shows are well-regarded.

THE MANDALORIAN doesn't have the budget, scope or purpose that the feature films have. He'd kick ass as the auteur overseeing a coherent vision for a trilogy that STAR WARS needs.

Good. Can we retcon Abrams' abysmal Star Trek canon, including the destruction of Vulcan???

Oscar Isaac was the only one in the new trilogy who had any charisma or screen presence. The other were all so uninteresting. Isaac should've been the main character.

They have two multi-billion dollar theme park lands (with a third slated) themed to the sequels.

[quote]Nobody cares about the fans. Disney will do whatever it takes to recoup their billion-dollar investment in this brand. It's hilarious that anyone, anywhere would think otherwise.

The way movies hit the huge numbers make money is from huge fans seeing movies 5, 6, 7 times or more.

Movies don't hit $1.5 billion with people seeing it only once in the theaters.

Disney cares about fans only in so far as they know that unpopular movies don't make the huge box office numbers. Force Awakens hit $2 billion after years of pent up demand. The Last Jedi only made $1.3 billion. By the time of Rise of Skywalker when the hate had grown to epic proportions among fans, it barely topped $1 billion. Solo, that is probably tied for hate with TLJ, is reputed not to have even made back production costs and marketing at $390 million.

[quote]Oscar Isaac was the only one in the new trilogy who had any charisma or screen presence. The other were all so uninteresting. Isaac should've been the main character.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a few movies with Oscar Isaac in the lead.

R30 Actually, it copied the Japanese book/film series Lone Wolf and Cub but I'm down for it.

[quote] Actually, it copied the Japanese book/film series Lone Wolf and Cub but I'm down for it.

Um, I think it’s actually called "Chick and Hawk", but whatever.

Aren’t they doing more movies or is it tv shows with Diego Luna??

I’m there for that!

Well, considering how much GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY stole from STAR WARS ...

I can't help but feel that Princess Leia could have saved Alderon if she wasn't such a fat, stupid, bitch.

The Mandalorian was excellent. If that is not good enough for you then go make your own damn show.

It's amazing how Disney fucked up the Star Wars franchise. They really just coasted with the franchise. They didn't even have a proper story for the trilogy. You could tell they made it up as they went along. Lucas did too but at least it was mostly coherent in the original trilogy. The last one was absolutely terrible. It just reeked of cut and paste from previous Star Wars films. Daisy Ridley was dreadful and lacked any charisma. I like John Boyega but they didn't know what to do with his character. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Kelly Marie Tran but the ridiculous, racist reaction to her just showed the asses of psycho Star Wars fans and it really cast a pall over the entire series.

I quite enjoyed Solo and I thought Rogue was excellent but the series really needs to take a break and reset. Make people get excited again about Star Wars. And actually make a fucking film with an original idea.

Oh wait - it's Disney.

[quote]There was absolutely nothing wrong with Kelly Marie Tran but the ridiculous, racist reaction to her just showed the asses of psycho Star Wars fans and it really cast a pall over the entire series.

That was actually just the Russian and alt-right troll farms flexing their muscles on Twitter, not actual 'Star Wars' fans.

I really liked the Last Jedi. It felt like an independent film in lots of small ways as the key parts were so character driven. And the music was fantastic. There are very few film scores that have made me emotional, but the score when Luke leaves Leia and goes outside for face Kylo Ren genuinely made me teary, as it signalled hope.

I guess I'm late to this party.

Why in the world would Disney ever want to erase Episodes 7, 8, and 9?

In my opinion, those were the best made films of all Star Wars movies, with the best stories, the best acting, and the least amount of cheesy CGI and lame characters (eg: Jar Jar Binks). All three were ADULT films made for and by adults.

If anything needs to be erased and/or redone, it's episodes 1, 2, and 3.

Those were the worst out of the 11 or 12 total Star Wars movies.

Disney's theme park lands are based on 7,8, and 9. They won't redo it, so will keep the films. Like the prequels are now, when the current children that are seeing these movies hit a certain age the Disney sequels will be better accepted. By then things that don'y work just won't be mentioned any more (like midichlorians, from the prequels). The biggest mistake from the Disney sequels is that they had the originals alive and never put them in a seen together. Now that Fisher is dead, it's not possible any more.

They should plan films with Rey, Poe, and Finn, keep them as film characters and not make them DisneyTV characters. It does sound like the actors are not interested in doing anything else with SW right now, so we'll see.

[quote]They should plan films with Rey, Poe, and Finn, keep them as film characters

No way. The public never warmed to those characters and it's best if they're never seen again.

[quote]There was absolutely nothing wrong with Kelly Marie Tran but the ridiculous, racist reaction to her just showed the asses of psycho Star Wars fans and it really cast a pall over the entire series.

There was nothing wrong with the actress or her portrayal of the character as written.

The problem was that the character as written was useless to the story, had zero character development, and was poorly conceived simply to insert an Asian woman into the story.

Tran's character was nothing more than a fangirl stand-in. It had nothing to do with th estory.

Anna Diop from Teen Titans faced similar racist attacks as Kelly Marie Tran and John Boyega.

People are garbage.

*Titans not Teen Titans

R12 Boyega is an entitled asshole who should be grateful he's a fucking multimillionaire actor. God these boys real piss me off - they spit on of the plate out which they eat

Tran is a dumbshit g00k drama whore who realized her five minutes of fame gave her a soapbox. She has SJW Munchausen by-proxy. She's a fucking joke and in a fair world she'd be taking your order at a fucking Chinese restaurant.

R54 OMG you’re right - she’s a terrible actress and just plain ugly. She looks like a fucking toad

R53 R54

Major racist troll. These are your only posts. Stop creating accounts spreading hatred, racism, and division.

R56 = KM Tran

Ignored the racist troll. DataLounge needs to change. These trolls shouldn’t be allowed to continue their reign on this forum.

R58 = triggered mid-50s unfuckable fatass frau smelling of catpiss. Go back to Jezebel, cunt.

R58 no one wants you here you ugly fat fuck Frau

Even Helen Keller could've seen that Tran's character was shoehorned into the movie to score more diversity points and to be a fangirl stand-in. Totally unnecessary in a series of movies that already had enough problems.

It was bad enough that Finn and Poe had to be straight, but to make Finn's love interest some creature named Rose Tico just added insult to injury.

R62 maybe Poe couldn't get past Finn's biscuit lips

R63 oh my

Rose Taco beats out Jar Jar as worst Star Wars character with more than 5 lines.

R65 mos def, bro.

OP, Doomock is a proven fake cirtually everything he's said about his behind the scenes knowledge of Star Wars and Star Trek has never come to pass.

R67 mos def bro

This is sad boyz fan boyz bullshit.

r46 = Gratuitous, Contrarian Trollbait

Devil's Sadvocate

r54 = r55, racist shitstain, right-wing troll predictably W&W'ing his own posts immediately and talking to itself between sock puppet accounts.

F&F!

Most fans are done with the SW franchise having anything to do with Kathy Kennedy. People attack her and blame her for bushing her vagine agenda well fuck dat. George Lucas installed her when he sold his company so everything she does is ultimately Lucas' fault.

Lucas' fault? They made up the fucking trilogy as they went along. Lucas had nothing to do with that. I still can't believe that a franchise as important as the next installment of the Star Wars trilogy didn't have a set-in-stone story arc for all three films before the first one even started filming.

Of course it is Lucas' fault. He installed Kathy and she did what she was supposed to do. Lucas destroyed his own franchise. He is 100% to blame.

He didn't know what the game plan was when he signed it over.

Lucas' departure from the Star Wars franchise, was the best thing that ever happened to it.

Everyone knows it.

Star Wars was great when it was a trilogy. George Lucas fucking with the originals, the bad prequels/sequels/spinoffs, the insane merchandising, and the loony fans collectively ruined Star Wars.

All these new ABY films bore the shit out of me, as an Old Republic fan. I want to see fresh retellings about Revan & Odann-Urr, the Schism, the Great Sith War, etc. There’s so much incredible canon backstory that has not been mined for screen yet. Just the day-to-day of the old Jedi & Sith orders is cool and fascinating to me, more than TIE-fighters, the Empire’s ruins, wangsty lightsaber fights, endless bounty-hunting...

At least we have some decent games & books set in the pre-prequel Era, but really it’s tiring seeing movie release after release focused on the Rebellion, or the Clone Wars, or the New Jedi and the Skywalker/Solo/whatever lineage. As a kid of the ‘90s I find it hard to give a fuck about the time from the Republic onwards, and that shouldn’t be a shameful choice any more than a little kid of now not wanting to watch or acknowledge the original or the prequel films.

Fanboys are relentless in shitting on anyone talking about the now-discarded old canon, though. It’s sad to toss out all that potential and all that history - years of hard work and creativity from underpaid writers and artists - just because some sensitive damaged Gen X’rs got their feelings hurt over the prequel films.

The sage films episodes 1-9 will never be remade. Move on, demented conspiracy-theory fanboys.

Regarding the theme park land being built to suit episodes 7-9, that was a Bob Iger decision, and he’s basically checked out. It wouldn’t take much to retool them.

Nothing from the sequel trilogy seemed to make much of a lasting impact on pop culture, aside from how divisive it became.

I doubt they’re selling many Kylo Ren toys these days, and merchandising is the only reason Disney wanted Star Wars in the first place.

R49 see, I’ve never understood the argument about racial representation when it comes to SW. It’s a mythological world populated by hundreds of alien species, half of them variant humanoids. Crying about a lack of Asian women or Black men on screen is totally disingenuous when you have Jabbas & Greedos & Wattos & whatever the fuck Sebulba was wandering around the galaxy.

Anyone can see a caricature if they squint and reach hard enough. Fact is, these characters are futuristic otherworldly aliens and normal prejudices should not apply derogatively or affirmatively.

STAR TREK never had this issue. How come?

Because Star Trek was diverse from the very beginning?...

Is Kelly Marie Tran is Asian Nikki Blonsky?