Most Overrated Gay Icon
Sometime gays latch onto somebody early in their career, and then, even though the celeb disappoints, they won't let go. It's not like gays as a group are known for having any unhealthy emotional issues vis-à-vis female celebrities, or anything.
Anyway, which of these is the most overrated. Justify your answers in the comments.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Wednesday at 3:08 AM|
Nancy Culp?! One of these things is not like the others...
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/29/2020|
R1, I put that in for our lesbian friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/29/2020|
Lady Gaga owns this thread. The most patronizing and desperate of all the women listed. That whole "be yourself" BS was ultimately patronizing.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/29/2020|
Lady Gag is the Trump of Pop.
And quite reductive. Look it up!
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/29/2020|
Taylor Swift is NOT a gay icon.
Bey is the most overrated. She’s had like, 3 memorable singles: Single Ladies, Crazy in Love, and Sweet Dreams. Telephone is with Gaga but I guess I’ll be charitable and include it.
People voting for Madonna are insane.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/29/2020|
Madonna can’t sing or act. She can dance a little. She should have been a pole dancer.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/29/2020|
Madonna actually did speak out for gays at a time when people thought it was disgusting to associate with them and she was very outspoken on AIDS. Lady Gaga patronized to gays at a time when it was way easier to jump on a trend and act like you supported it all along.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/29/2020|
Gaga by far. Goodness, she is a trainwreck.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/29/2020|
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|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/29/2020|
I understand why people find her annoying, but I think Lady Gaga is the only person on this list whose talents are more underrated than they are overrated. She can legitimately sing beautifully and often makes interesting artistic choices not to do so, and although I thought A Star Is Born was a sappy, Lifetime-caliber movie, her performance was the best part of it. There’s a ton of artifice in her art but she is a talented woman. She also was in my opinion brilliant to respond to a music industry that told her she is too ugly to be a star by taking off her pants and hot gluing muppets to her head so that people couldn’t look away, and then waiting a couple of years before showing off her real performative talents after she was a household name.
Nicki Minaj and Katy Perry started dressing like anime characters after Gaga made it normal, and then Gaga stopped doing it and instead just sang and acted impressively.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/29/2020|
I agree with R5. I think Beyonce is the most overrated but Swift doesn't even belong the list. Gaga ushered in a new era of Euro style dance pop and made 70s fashion popular again so she's deserving.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/29/2020|
This is about being overrated as a gay icon, not their talent. I don't deny her talent--she's just the biggest tryhard and phony of all the women listed. The other women, even Taylor, all come off as more authentic than her. Gaga stopped the whole weird-schtick long after the public gave up on it. Hence ArtPop being a flop.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/29/2020|
You left off Britney Spears. Every gay guy I know loves her and I've never understood why.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/29/2020|
Overrated: Britney/Gaga Underrated: Bjork
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/29/2020|
the worst thing about Beyonce are her fans.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/29/2020|
Britney Spears is vacant enough that any group, whether it be gays, robots, trans, etc. can claim her as a champion of theirs. It's not like she'll object. She's too drugged up to do that.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/29/2020|
What are we, chopped liver? There are more drag queen impersonations of us than all the other people on the list combined.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/29/2020|
You bitches need to start including Tori Amos on these lists.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/29/2020|
Wait, how is Michelle Obama a “gay icon”?!
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/29/2020|
Most Deserving: STEVIE NICKS.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/29/2020|
R19 She wore a dress designed by a gay guy once. Duh.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/29/2020|
R19, I put Michelle Obama there so Beyonce wouldn't be the only black person.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/29/2020|
R20, Stevie Nicks is NOT overrated!
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/29/2020|
Beyoncé is NOT overrated as a gay icon. People aren’t reading the thread right. She has not used us for her career like that rancid Gaga and has actually shown sincerity as an ally.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/29/2020|
R23 Stevie Nicks has the voice of a thousand angels!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/29/2020|
R23, I meant Stevie was MOST DESERVING of being a Gay Icon, sorry!
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/29/2020|
Kate Bush is a true GAY ICON, not that watered-down imitator Amos.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/29/2020|
“Not all the divas are musicians...they are dancers who can sing. So that needs to be acknowledged.”
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/29/2020|
Um, where is the great Alok Vaid Menon, poetry wiz of the century!? Epic Fail!!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/29/2020|
Gaga had some great jams and brought us all a party joy and aesthetic that was sorely needed during and after the Bush years.
Yes, she was bandwagony with our rights and came off as very trite. But transparent or no, she DID stand up. When has Britney, Christina, Gwen Stefani, etc EVER?
Most importantly, she brought us SHANNON Gaga, one of my favorite personalities from the aughts.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/29/2020|
R23, too late. I have already reported you to the gay police. They will be over to your house soon to confiscate your tasteful throw pillows, all-male porn, miniature spoon collection, and caftans.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/29/2020|
Finally! An award Beyonce deserves.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/29/2020|
Why are they all females ?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/29/2020|
R35, we'll do Roddy McDowell and Freddy Mercury for you, tomorrow.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/29/2020|
OP, Nancy Kulp and Michelle Obama don’t belong in the poll. Nancy Kulp was a wonderful character actress and she’s a lesbian icon, as well.
Michelle Obama is not an entertainer; she’s universally loved, admired and respected for her humanitarianism. (Aside from being a former excellent First Lady.)
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/29/2020|
R37, don't you find it ironic as you drool and emote over Michelle Obama in the same reply as you claim she is not a gay icon?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/29/2020|
No Liza Minnelli? Please report to the courtesy desk and turn in your gay card.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/29/2020|
Not one is gay. That’s so interesting...Rosie O’Donnell, Ellen (even with her baggage), K.D. Lang, Oscar Wilde, James Dean, Gore Vidal, Elton John, RuPaul...I’d consider all of them gay idols. I’d throw in Cary Grant as well and Brando since he was openly bi.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/29/2020|
The pandering straight white guys like Nick Jonas (but oh god do I want him in my bed!)
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/29/2020|
Barbra should be voted as most overrated; however, she should be on the list.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/29/2020|
R37, I'm not sure either one of those two are actually women.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/30/2020|
Not overrated by a long shot, but Annie Lennox should be included as a gay icon.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/30/2020|
Where’s Angela Lansbury ?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/30/2020|
R48, she is solving murders whilst on vacation. What are you doing with your summer?
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/30/2020|
Beyonce couldn't give a flying fuck if all gay men were executed. Shes one of those archetypical overzealous Christians.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/30/2020|
R50, I'm guessing Beyonce didn't answer your fan letter.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/30/2020|
Madonna. She was all media hype and her work simply doesnt hold up in 2020. She has no influence.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/30/2020|
I don't really give a shit about her. I just know she's super Christian and probably has to pay handlers to remove her head from her own ass before she shoots a video.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/30/2020|
[quote]I put Michelle Obama there so Beyonce wouldn't be the only black person.
Diana Ross (ALSO ON YOUR LIST) throws side-eye your way.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/30/2020|
[quote]She has no influence.
GaGa's ouvre would like a word.
From the list, OP, the only ones I like are Madonna (up to Like a Prayer) and Cher (hair metal era only) (and Obama but don't think she belongs here).
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/30/2020|
Barbra Streisand would get my vote.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/30/2020|
Icons don't actually have to be the best. That's what's so weird, and what people don't seem to get anymore. They strike a chord, so to speak, at the right time and place. Joan Crawford was not the best actress, but she was an iconic movie star, and an iconic gay icon. Just happens. Analysis of whether they were "the best" is always completely beside the point. And Beyonce, Taylor Swift, and Michelle Obama may all be great at what they do, but it doesn't make them iconic in any way, shape, or form.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/30/2020|
Cher, on the other hand, came along at the right time with the right look and the right story and now, iconic. There's absolutely no logic to it. It happens or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/30/2020|
Jackie Kennedy, iconic. Pretty much every other First Lady of the 20th century, good, bad, indifferent, but not iconic. Maybe Eleanor Roosevelt, but she's in a different category, actual heroine.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/30/2020|
R59, you are right, but she still had a face like an old mop.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/30/2020|
R40 But James Dean wasn't gay either. And wasn't Nancy Culp supposedly gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||06/30/2020|
R61, Viv is NOT overrated! Why, she was Lucy's best friend, for heaven's sake!
|by Anonymous||reply 63||06/30/2020|
What way R64? Fraudulent?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||06/30/2020|
Joe Camel's wife is a gay icon?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||06/30/2020|
R7, so if someone you like supports gay rights it's cool....but if someone you dislikes supports gay rights it's patronizing?
BTW, some of these people aren't even gay icons. I mean....Taylor Swift?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||06/30/2020|
Madonna owned a damn decade. You may hate her now, but in the 80s, no, that was not allowed. Yeah, gay icon.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||06/30/2020|
That is a fucking lie. She loved her gay uncle who died from AIDS and took care of him.
She was the biggest ally to gay marriage and has been promoting pro-gay Democrats.
Beyoncé is a sincere ally. Fuck you.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||06/30/2020|
super. great, happy for her. not an icon. thanks for sharing.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||06/30/2020|
We need something like the French Academy which decided which words were actually allowed in, and which weren't. We need the Gay Icon Academy. Many will crowd into the lobby, few will be allowed into the Inner Sanctum!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||06/30/2020|
maybe what you think today r72, but sorry, she clawed her way in in the 1980s. Too late now. Bitch was iconic and that is what happened. Ask RuPaul.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/30/2020|
And Barbara Streisand of course!!! Why? Who knows? who cares?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/30/2020|
"She was the biggest ally to gay marriage and has been promoting pro-gay Democrats."
The biggest allies to gay rights and marriage are gay people. Stop worshipping breeders who just want your money and do nothing for us.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/30/2020|
you were on the cusp Miss Warwick. You get a front row in the lobby, but honestly ...
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/30/2020|
R76, you could say the same for all "gay friendly" straight celebs
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/30/2020|
Princess Diana. Yes, she did charity work including AIDS related work in tbe early days but she was not the saint that people make her out to be.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/30/2020|
R82, are Cass Elliot and Peggy Cass the same person?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/30/2020|
Nancy Kulp OP? FUCK YOU!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/30/2020|
R54, I have some news for you about Diana Ross's race.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/30/2020|
The goddam, cocksucking Golden Girls, Rose!
|by Anonymous||reply 87||06/30/2020|
What do you suppose James Brolin saw in her?
he seems like a normal actor.. Why did he fall for that shit?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/30/2020|
Taylor Swift and Michelle Obama are not gay icons. Invalid poll by an idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||Last Wednesday at 3:05 AM|
Bette Midler probably. Given her comments on Larry King.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Wednesday at 3:08 AM|