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Straight Women Reinforce Sexism Through Their Own Homophobia

If you’ve ever seen a straight man act in a gentle, feminine way or have an interest in something considered “not manly” and a woman then asks, “...Is he gay...?”, she is reinforcing that straight men need to be pussy grabbing, “Nice Tits!” troglodytes to be respected. These straight women need to deal with their own homophobia before they’re going to overcome sexism.

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by Anonymousreply 7116 hours ago

Women want to keep men on edge, make them think they’re fags if they’re not after pussy 24/7, but now with the power to destroy them if they do. Pussy as an all-mighty ATM card is the name of the game.

by Anonymousreply 1Last Sunday at 10:49 AM

I have much respect for lesbians and women of color who are veterans at defying gender norms. They usually treat me as a peer, while straight (always white!) women show obeisance to me if they think I’m a straight guy but become cloying and condescending when they find out I’m gay. They do treasure their straight alphas, and I’m not surprised that “50 Shades of Grey” and “365 Days” were both written by this demographic of women, and each has a huge fanbase of them. It’s downright creepy.

by Anonymousreply 2Last Sunday at 11:10 AM

Every demographic has it's share of self-haters, OP. And apparently no shortage of anti-white misogynists in yours.

by Anonymousreply 3Last Sunday at 11:15 AM

I’m not “anti-white” R3, we just maybe should stop coddling white girls with the Disney wedding princess fantasy? I think the reason women of color tend to be tougher and more self-reliant is that they have to work three times as hard as white girls to be taken seriously.

by Anonymousreply 4Last Sunday at 11:21 AM

^^ Same goes for lesbians, especially of the butch variety. Hardest working and smartest employees I’ve ever worked with.

by Anonymousreply 5Last Sunday at 11:24 AM

Yes it's all the fault of those nasty womens. 🙄 You know, writing the laws, making up religions, and so on. I just love seeing how quick the racist, homophobic white man is to pass the buck.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Sunday at 11:26 AM

R6 poor, defenseless, modern straight white women just can’t change until THE MAN changes. They’re so delicate.

by Anonymousreply 7Last Sunday at 11:36 AM

Jokes on you whitey, cause I'm not white. You can GTFO off the land you stole whenever you're ready. Shall I quote some DL gems?

Maybe blame them for the way men here worship a POS like Christopher Watts, cause so "hot" and "alpha" and "straight", am I right? That's all the womens fault as well. You see, they're also responsible for this type of behavior in gay men. If there weren't women into masculine men, gay men wouldn't be so hot for them too.

Let's clean own house first OP and work to dismantle these regressive ideas, instead of blaming everyone but ourselves.

by Anonymousreply 8Last Sunday at 11:39 AM

r5, shut the fuck up. You know nothing about ANY women, so just keep your trap shut about the subject altogether.

by Anonymousreply 9Last Sunday at 11:40 AM

Pfft their husbands are all on the down-low anyway

by Anonymousreply 10Last Sunday at 11:40 AM

R7 wasn't breast fed enough. Poor babe.

by Anonymousreply 11Last Sunday at 11:41 AM

This thread is a prime example of Fraus taking over. We can shit on men on every thread all day, but dare mention poor little innocent women and it’s an explosion.

As Jack Nicholson as Melvin Udall responded to the question, “How do you write women so well?”, in As Good As It Gets....

“I think of a man and I take away reason & accountability.”

by Anonymousreply 12Last Sunday at 11:46 AM

[quote]Maybe blame them for the way men here worship a POS like Christopher Watts, cause so "hot" and "alpha" and "straight", am I right?

How much do you want to bet it’s straight women posting and responding to those threads - no way to prove that, but when you look at hybristophilia statistics, it’s mostly women who have this paraphilia - and Datalounge, as we know, is flooded with straight women cosplaying as gay men.

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by Anonymousreply 13Last Sunday at 12:04 PM

r13 types incel.

by Anonymousreply 14Last Sunday at 12:08 PM

R14 Come at me with all the ad hominems you want, but I’d love to see some statistics or a good argument showing that I’m wrong, and that the kidnap/rape fantasy “365 Days” is #1 on Netflix because of MALE viewership. Change my mind!

by Anonymousreply 15Last Sunday at 12:15 PM

Whoof, I can not imagine having to deal with straight white women.

by Anonymousreply 16Last Sunday at 12:16 PM

Keep stamping them feet, honey! Someone will take you seriously, one day, r15.

by Anonymousreply 17Last Sunday at 12:20 PM

[quote] I have much respect for lesbians and women of color who are veterans at defying gender norms.

I've seen what gay men respect and that's actually the biggest insult you could deliver to lesbians and women of color. Thanks a lot, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 18Last Sunday at 12:22 PM

You sound like a fucking retard, OP

by Anonymousreply 19Last Sunday at 12:27 PM

[quote]Keep stamping them feet, honey! Someone will take you seriously, one day, [R15].

I’ll be the first to admit that my opinion won’t make any impact on this issue. I’m just making an observation. The biggest threat to #metoo and other feminist efforts are the hypocritical women who undercut the movements by supporting and promoting male dominance of and brutality towards women, not some random gay man sharing his thoughts on DL.

by Anonymousreply 20Last Sunday at 12:31 PM

Women reinforce sexism by insisting that careening around in an SUV stuffing their faces with Starbucks all day is an actual profession.

Millennial women seem to think letting some idiot fuck them, dressing like a trash bag, and shitting out kids (who they then invariably ignore) constitute a job they should be compensated for.

This is NOT the same thing as what homemakers did in past generations. Those women actually worked their asses off. The entitled skanks of today are just that— skanks.

by Anonymousreply 21Last Sunday at 12:31 PM

R21 Shut up and hurry to take my picture with this Starbucks for my Insta!

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by Anonymousreply 22Last Sunday at 1:15 PM

They do reinforce sexism. I had a very good friend and roommate in college. He loved to listen to and dance around to stupid girly pop songs. I introduced him to classic movies like All About Eve, which he loved. We both loved to cook and try out new recipes. He had one girl come over, and we were our normal selves, she asked if we were fags. After that anytime a girl was around, he had to act as though he hated girly pop songs, he had no idea who Bette Davis was, and the only cooking he did was to grill out. I just remained myself. If I have to change for a person, male or female, then they are not a person I want to be around.

by Anonymousreply 23Last Sunday at 1:43 PM

R23 is a prime example. Women will enforce gender roles with straight men just like other men do. Sometimes it subtle, like a glance and a chuckle if a guy likes or EVEN knows say a Mariah Carey song. I had one male friend in college who made the blanket statement, more than once in mixed company, that he didn’t like ANY girl singers, which was bullshit as I’d seen him get into many a female-sang song when we were partying. Lots of Women are disgusted by ANY feminine qualities in a straight male and when they’re alone they make fun gay men who are too feminine. Women are bullies.

Most of the world’s problems Butterfly Effect back to women’s demands & requirements to get into their precious pussies. Wars are fought over them. Men compete to be the richest and most powerful, why? Pussy! It’s like mating games in the wild, but instead of fluffing feathers and wrastlin’ a fellow lion they have to start a war, steal, kill, build towers to the sky and pollute the earth. Sorry, but in accountability for all... straight women need to accept their egotistical role in everything.

by Anonymousreply 24Last Sunday at 2:01 PM

R8 it is always kick the can down the road. “I’ll deal with my issues once YOU deal with yours.” No one wants to change, but they sure want everyone else to.

by Anonymousreply 25Last Sunday at 2:07 PM

R24 Sadly, I relate 100%, but women are as victimized by cultural brainwashing as men, and there are also self-loathing GAY men who are closeted or openly critical of men who show any “feminine” traits. So I don’t mean to single out women as homophobes - I would just like to debunk the notion that they are somehow less homophobic than men - a complete myth.

by Anonymousreply 26Last Sunday at 2:39 PM

Abusive women establish control over their targets by using brainwashing tactics similar to those used on prisoners of war, hostages, or members of a cult. Most abusers instinctively know these behaviors. Their behavior is mostly unconscious; they’re natural predators. However, some abusive women know exactly what they’re doing, I’d argue that they’re sociopaths. The little giggles and eye rolls are emotional abuse.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Sunday at 3:58 PM

R16 - I honestly doubt they are beating down your door.

by Anonymousreply 28Last Sunday at 4:04 PM

R28 is probably one of those predatory lesbians who is always on the lookout for injured fawns to nurse back to help by way of slathering her tongue all over the confused straight girl’s juicy vagina, only to get her big Bull Dyke heart broken over & over again.

by Anonymousreply 29Last Sunday at 4:31 PM

Couldn't be further from the truth.

by Anonymousreply 30Last Sunday at 5:05 PM

R30.

by Anonymousreply 31Last Sunday at 5:50 PM

r29, just because you're fixated on straight men doesn't mean everyone is like you.

by Anonymousreply 32Last Sunday at 8:20 PM

If we're to accept that there is a wide variety of gender expressions and welcome them all then gender "norms" are part of that which should be accepted.

I think straight women are always asking if a guy is gay because they don't want to waste their time getting their hopes up with a closet case. Anyway, why do you care what straight women ask each other, OP? That is not what leads to homophobia or what sustains it.

by Anonymousreply 33Last Sunday at 8:27 PM

Well, duh. Some women use the same methods straight men use to intimidate other men or make them at least self-conscious: Question their masculinity. And it comes from the same place of being raised with the belief that homosexuality makes a man inferior.

And yes, some women fall into the insecurity trap of sexism (or as recently pointed out on social media: Racism) where they feel the need to make themselves feel better by looking down on others.

by Anonymousreply 34Last Sunday at 8:58 PM

OP, what kind of company do you keep? I mainly see these PSL Becky wannabes on Youtube, and amongst a portion of the "management" class. They need to get checked on-the-spot.

by Anonymousreply 35Last Sunday at 10:10 PM

Anti-white psy-op troll thread, and you all fell for it!!

by Anonymousreply 36Last Sunday at 10:24 PM

Yes, R28 is one of those Mother Hen lesbians, who is always waiting to defend straight women and hate on gay men.

by Anonymousreply 37Last Sunday at 10:33 PM

OP’s post doesn’t mention race.

by Anonymousreply 38Last Monday at 12:27 AM

R23, it's funny that you can't seem to figure out that your story actually exemplifies the homophobia in straight men. He changed his entire demeanor so no one would think he was gay and it's the woman who's the homophobe, huh? Of course a sexist like you would think that and be blind to the reality of what you saw.

[quote]I have much respect for lesbians and women of color who are veterans at defying gender norms. They usually treat me as a peer, while straight (always white!) women show obeisance to me if they think I’m a straight guy but become cloying and condescending when they find out I’m gay.

The weird, cloying, obsequious way that straight women act toward men is one of the things I use when I try to figure out if a woman is gay. Gay women never, ever do it. That's also the reason that gay women, at least if they aren't out, get the cold/distant/bitch reputation. Men DO NOT like it when women don't pay attention to them to a ridiculous degree.

by Anonymousreply 39Last Monday at 12:58 AM

I've seen SEVERAL lesbians bow down to straight men hundreds of times. Many lesbians just worship straight men.

by Anonymousreply 40Last Monday at 7:45 AM

I've met lesbians who hate gay men. I think it's because they hate a stereotypical view they have of gay men: as being sex-crazed, materialistic, shallow...

They think themselves above gay men.

by Anonymousreply 41Last Monday at 7:48 AM

R39 But, he didn't change because he wanted to. He changed because he wanted access to pussy. That one girl made it very clear to him that if he didn't change he wouldn't have access. It wasn't his internal homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 42Last Monday at 8:01 AM

R42 I see a lot of that - fraus 'educating' men how to be good straights with the reward of access to their pussy for 'good' behaviour and denial of access for 'bad'. And while most women don’t explicitly say that gay is bad, that's only if gay stays in its lane. Any bisexuality is a huge no-no. If a man says he's ever been attracted to another men, still less had sex, he's immediately written off as a “health risk”. In reality fraus are threatened that he's not fully under the control of their pussy. And, yes, on some deep level they think that m/m sex is wrong.

by Anonymousreply 43Last Monday at 8:17 AM

R43 Yes, as a bi guy I understand that. Most of my m/f sex is fleeting one-night stands, because of that. If I get to know them beforehand and I'm honest about myself, they shut that door. Though I have had a few who want to convert me to being straight. I enjoyed their "attempts" but it can't actually change me. I am bisexual. I will always be attracted to men and women. Most gay men do not seem to react the same way.

What many can't seem to understand about that, is that while attracted to both, I am also extremely monogamous. The chance of me cheating on a woman with a man, is as unlikely as me cheating with a woman. Being a bisexual does not mean I am an uncontrollable sex addict.

by Anonymousreply 44Last Monday at 8:35 AM

No one cares, cheating bi freak.

by Anonymousreply 45Last Monday at 8:40 AM

R28 doesn't seem to understand that we don't want them beating down our door.

In fact, we'd like if they'd leave us alone.

by Anonymousreply 46Last Monday at 8:42 AM

[quote]fraus 'educating' men how to be good straights with the reward of access to their pussy for 'good' behaviour and denial of access for 'bad'.

Are you suggesting that a woman should just let any man into her pussy? I'm a gay man but I'm not going to let some freak have his way with me just because he has a dick. You type incel.

by Anonymousreply 47Last Monday at 9:28 AM

[quote]Are you suggesting that a woman should just let any man into her pussy?

It's about the mind games women play.

Women use sex as a weapon, gay men do it as an act of love.

by Anonymousreply 48Last Monday at 9:30 AM

As a gay guy I dont understand the obsession that some of you have for straight women, some of you sound like incels.

by Anonymousreply 49Last Monday at 9:46 AM

Maybe it's because straight women won't get the fuck out of this board and other gay men's spaces.

by Anonymousreply 50Last Monday at 9:47 AM

R50 Do you think that gay men are so self-absorbed and selfish that they don't care enough to defend their straight female friends? Weird. Just because gay men don't identify as straight women doesn't mean that gay men like me won't use logic and reason. Not all straight women are the same, no matter how much you insane identitarians think otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 51Last Monday at 9:55 AM

[quote]Do you think that gay men are so self-absorbed and selfish that they don't care enough to defend their straight female friends?

They should be. God knows those straight women are far more self-absorbed and selfish. They'll abandon their 'gay friends' at a moment's notice.

by Anonymousreply 52Last Monday at 9:58 AM

[quote]Women use sex as a weapon, gay men do it as an act of love.

There isn't enough idiocy in the world to explain you.

by Anonymousreply 53Last Monday at 10:53 AM

R53 is a triggered Karen.

by Anonymousreply 54Last Monday at 10:56 AM

Sure, R54. Gloryholes, the ultimate love. I can't wait for the movie.

by Anonymousreply 55Last Monday at 10:57 AM

F&F R55.

You are spreading homophobic tropes.

Men who love men have more love in their relationships than any straight couple could ever have.

by Anonymousreply 56Last Monday at 10:59 AM

There's some mental patient who thinks that women are responsible for straight men's homophobia. Think whatever you want, you're 100% wrong. Men have been persecuting and denying gay mens' right for centuries, all on their own. Get over it.

by Anonymousreply 57Last Monday at 11:26 AM

Straight men are responsible for their homophobia.

Women are responsible for their homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 58Last Monday at 11:27 AM

[quote] Some women use the same methods straight men use to intimidate other men or make them at least self-conscious: Question their masculinity. And it comes from the same place of being raised with the belief that homosexuality makes a man inferior.

R34, I disagree. A man who is considered more like a woman is considered "inferior" and that is because women are considered inferior.

The Greeks (or some portions of that society) used to glorify male on male sex because sex with women - you know those inferior beings - was considered inferior.

by Anonymousreply 59Yesterday at 10:56 AM

R59 They didn't glorify male on male sex, the bottom was seen as being inferior and non-masculine for playing the female role.

by Anonymousreply 60Yesterday at 11:03 AM

R60, isn't that essentially what I just said?

by Anonymousreply 61Yesterday at 11:06 AM

R61 No, you said they glorified male on male sex.

[quote] The Greeks (or some portions of that society) used to glorify male on male sex because sex with women - you know those inferior beings - was considered inferior.

by Anonymousreply 62Yesterday at 11:12 AM

Politely asking if someone is gay isn't an insult, OP, it's just an inquiry.

Look at your own internalized homophobia for a moment, and your irrational resentment of women.

by Anonymousreply 63Yesterday at 12:00 PM

R63 do you ever see a man with a hunting rifle or... listening to bro country music or rap and go “is he straight?”...? No.

It is a reinforcement of extreme gender roles to inquire about a man’s potential homosexuality for any & all “feminine behavior” and women continuing a tradition of filtering all men on a biological basis of mate searching. If we’re supposed to abandon all ingrained thought about women’s roles in life so they can move forward in the world, it is only fair that we do the same for men. Otherwise, take off those pants, put on a house dress and make us a meatloaf.

by Anonymousreply 64Yesterday at 12:15 PM

Is she a lesbian? Look at those pants she’s wearing. Only lesbians wear pants.

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by Anonymousreply 65Yesterday at 12:22 PM

[quote] If we’re supposed to abandon all ingrained thought about women’s roles in life so they can move forward in the world

Who said that? Women still have natural roles, as do men, that are required for the human race to move forward. Some roles are more likely male or female because of physical differences. It's the roles that are unnaturally or culturally imposed on people - men and women - and it's the roles forced upon people who choose not to take up those roles. Motherhood, for instance.

by Anonymousreply 66a day ago

R66 come again... “It’s the roles...” the roles that what? Your thought has no point.

by Anonymousreply 67a day ago

The problem is most straight women are innately ois culturally attracted to strong, adventurous men who are conventionally masculine. Women may say they want more gentle men, but so many get wet for the flexing Alpha male, which incentivized men to be macho. I hear a lot of women who truly support gay rights and people acknowledge they want manly men and aren’t interested in men who are not conventionally masculine.

by Anonymousreply 68a day ago

You know, threads like these make me think that one of these days a gay incel is going to pop off and blow up a yoga studio or women's retreat or something. This obsession isn't normal.

by Anonymousreply 69a day ago

Who Wants Beta Males? If you’re attracted to men, you usually want an Alpha.

by Anonymousreply 7016 hours ago

Didn't you hear? There aren't any beta males anymore. They've all become trans so they can be alpha "females".

by Anonymousreply 7116 hours ago
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