The one where Blanche & Rose had mud mask treatments
Hulu BANS Golden Girls Episode
|by Anonymous||reply 144||Last Tuesday at 8:51 AM|
Is this the episode when Michael's in-laws show up?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/27/2020|
Potential in-laws, they were only engaged, not married
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/27/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/27/2020|
This has gone too far now.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/27/2020|
Blanche and Rose didn't wear blackface to impersonate African American people. Rather, they had applied a mud treatment to their faces. Of course, it looked bad to Michael's future in-laws. Especially when his future mother-in-law had assumed that Michael was black, and without her glasses, she mistook Blanche and Rose for Michael's parents.
The episode delivers the message that family (even family-by-marriage) trumps race, when it's announced at the wedding ceremony that the couple are pregnant.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/27/2020|
Time to bring Rob and Laura Petrie to justice
The Dick Van Dyke Show Season 4, Episode 28:
Millie and Laura are home dying a costume for Richie's school play, and Laura immerses her hands into the vat of dye, not realizing that the dye is indelible. They run over to Millie's home to see if they can find some way to get the dye out of Laura's hands. Meanwhile, Rob comes home, sees the vat, and can't help but reach inside to see what it is. Thus both Rob and Laura end up with black hands. Rob becomes visibly upset, and he explains to Laura that they have to represent Alan Brady at an important community banquet celebrating racial progress. Try as they might, the only solution that they can think of is to wear white gloves to the banquet.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/27/2020|
Oh for fuck's sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/27/2020|
leftism is cancer
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/27/2020|
This is why even liberals hate Hollywood liberals.
Activists: “Hire more people of color! Let minorities tell their own stories! Stop glorifying the police state!”
Hollywood: “CENSOR BLACKFACE UP TO AND INCLUDING MUD MASKS!”
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/27/2020|
Only 3% agree with the ban
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/27/2020|
Variety .com? I would’ve assumed this was from the onion.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/27/2020|
R11 which is why I provided the link
As I didn't think anyone would believe me
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/27/2020|
Jenna Marbles, some Youtube star, just cancelled herself for impersonating Nicki Minaj in a 10 year old video. Critics claimed that Marbles was building on the legacy of blacks, as if the cultural contribution of Nicki Minaj is so profound. There should be a distinction between those who are doing a sincere homage, like Billy Crystal doing Sammy Davis Jr, and those who are obviously exaggerating someone's appearance.
BTW, Marbles apology video is a 10 minute cringefest.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/27/2020|
That is even more ridiculous then them removing the Community episode Advanced Dungeons and Dragons because Chang was dressed as a Dark Elf, and he was wearing black makeup - literally black
Watch out Friends and Seinfeld, the episodes where Ross and Kramer get overly tan are next.
I think the intentions are good here, but completely miss th point.
Can we cancel the shit-gibbon in orange face that's in the White House? That would do more good than re-casting Marshmallow on Bob's Burgers
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/27/2020|
Ridiculous. Now the population is too fragile to watch the Golden Girls from the 1980s. Blanche & Rose aren't exactly Amos & Andy.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/27/2020|
Folks need to stop putting 2020 standards on 1980's television programming.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/27/2020|
This is fucking RIDICULOUS. And I say that as a 39-year old gay man of color who considers himself progressive. (I know, technically, 39 makes me an Eldergay, but still...)
I support #BLM, I support the removal of confederate statues and I certainly don't support literal black/brown face or white actors playing people of color. So, yeah, for instance, I think those Little Britain sketches are gross. And, yeah, I think Jimmy Kimmel was right for apologizing for wearing black face. And, yeah, I think it's great that The Simpsons says that white actors will no longer voice characters of color. That's all good.
But, as R5 said, that is NOT at all what this episode of Golden Girls was doing. Blanche and Rose weren't wearing black/brown face. They weren't even intending to or trying to make a joke, nor where they impersonating people of color. It was just a farcical gag. This particular instance of 'canceling' is just silly.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/27/2020|
r17, is woke but DRAWS the Line at the GOLDEN GIRLS!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/27/2020|
Has anyone reached out to Lamar Zbornaik yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/27/2020|
I have the box set already, so I’m losing nothing. However, I wonder if this will impact the planned blu ray remastering of the series
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/27/2020|
Fuck, there goes the Designing Women "We're the Rowdy Girls" episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/27/2020|
[quote] Only 3% agree with the ban
It has gone up to 6% now
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/27/2020|
Why are some people so challenged when it comes to understanding nuance and context? R21 is a VERY clear example of black/brown face. Noted heifer Delta Burke is very clearly wearing black/brown face and deliberately impersonating a black Supreme. That is NOT the same thing as this Golden Girls episode in any way shape or form.
Guess what? You can support progress, find black/brown face unacceptable AND understand that in this particular case, this Golden Girls episode is fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/27/2020|
It's this kind of thing that makes me, a white attorney who frequently represents black people pro bono, a person who has never had a racist thought before, feel fucking racist.
My point is that this is extremism is defeating the purpose.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/27/2020|
Golden Girls and 30 Rock are purged, yet some racists are given a total pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/27/2020|
One of the few episodes with black characters on The Golden Girls, now purged.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/27/2020|
R23 I guess people are too dumb and reflexive to understand CONTEXT. Anyone with a triple digit IQ who watches that scene knows the comedy comes from Rose & Blanche thinking that the black family is going to THINK they’re doing Blackface, not that they are actually doing blackface.
Wtf is wrong with people?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/27/2020|
The episode was written by a black woman...
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/27/2020|
Why not just cut out the “offending” scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/27/2020|
Exhume Blanche, Sophia and Dorothy and axe the hoes why they did that!
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/27/2020|
You mean Heauxs, r30.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/27/2020|
I noticed that in the episode where Blanche tries to sell Rose her old car, the syndicated versions all censor out Blanche's line about what her grandfather used to say about selling your friend a car or a slave.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/27/2020|
It's getting ridiculous.
This video will probably make SJW's heads explode. Billy Crystal imitates two black men AND two black women.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/27/2020|
R23, but the episode of "Designing Women" actually does tackle the subject in more depth than the usually cringeworthy examples of blackface or yellowface do.
Julia tells Suzanne that wearing dark makeup would be racist. Suzanne argues that they are playing "The Supremes" and all she's doing is putting on makeup to look more like the character she's supposed to be playing. They even ask Anthony what he thinks about it and Julia rings up the NAACP to get some guidance.
I didn't think that the episode was making fun of black people at all. In fact it felt like the usual DW plot point showing how self-absorbed and clueless Suzanne could be and what a tiresome, nagging SJW scold Julia could be. It's too bad Meshach Taylor is dead. I wish someone had asked him what he thought of the episode and whether the writers consulted him or any other black people at the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/27/2020|
R28 - it was? IMDB credits Christopher Lloyd (and, of course, Susan Harris as creator)
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/27/2020|
Wait until they find the Letter to Gorbachev episode, where Rose runs out of the house in a Native American headdress!
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/27/2020|
Dorothy was a racist in that episode. “Oh, god,” she says when her son confirms his fiancé is black. Rose asks what color dandruff black people get.
Don’t forget the Kim Fong Toy episode. Many episodes of The Golden Girls are going to be banned now.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/27/2020|
Megyn Kelly has mocked her former employer NBC for canceling her show due to a discussion about blackface, after a fourth show on the network was singled out for featuring the offensive makeup.
Kelly, 49, had her NBC show Megyn Kelly Today canceled in 2019 following her remarks surrounding the appropriateness of blackface during Halloween.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/28/2020|
[quote]Can we cancel the shit-gibbon in orange face that's in the White House? That would do more good than re-casting Marshmallow on Bob's Burgers
In case you haven't noticed, no, we can't cancel Trump, which is why people are making changes everywhere else, in areas that they can change.
Everyone here is older than god so I don't know why you haven't experienced this before, and remembered that these things almost always swing back. In the 1990s there was a big movement to remove rape scenes from movies and shows on TV, and you'd get warnings and edits, but by the mid 2000s that was quietly discarded because the moment had passed. One of the Turner channels about 20 years ago stopped showing pre-code movies because of the offensive stereotypes but then started showing them again on TCM.
The same is going to happen here. Golden Girls will go to another streaming service in 3 years or so, and they'll just start quietly showing this episode again.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/28/2020|
Miss. Suzanne Sugarbaker you're next ghurl!
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/28/2020|
R37 yeah but she was dumber than shit (they’ve also edited that line out recently I noticed). She also asked if “jewelry was made by Jewish people.” And my money is on a Jewish person having written that line.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/28/2020|
Just fuckin work! Yo, a lot of blacks got shot at this weekend in Chicago. No protests?! Wtf
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/28/2020|
Dare I say Megan kelly covered this subject with more depth than the sjw scolds in the media. The ones I was most embarrassed for were the guests on her show who only pretended to be offended after the ridiculous backlash. Megan’s reputation for challenging the culture at nbc supports the narrative that her cancellation was either payback or damage control.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/28/2020|
Remember , there was long period when ‘Girl/Girls’ was taboo. You’re only supposed to say ‘Woman/Women’.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/28/2020|
Okay, something weird just happened. This thread put me in the mood to watch some Golden Girls. I randomly selected 'The President's Coming! Part 1 (S5, EP 25), in which the Secret Service interviews the girls to screen their place as possible photo op with President Bush.
At about 2 minutes 48 seconds in, the agent says "We chose this house as a possibility because there are 4 senior citizens living under one roof."
I have to imagine there was some kind of joke made after that comment -- most likely from Blanche denying she was that old. But instead, they immediately cut to a close up shot of Blanche just smiling before the scene continues. It appears that they've edited something out there.
You can check it out by watching the ep on Hulu and skipping to about 2:48. Anyone else catch this? Any clue what line(s) they removed?
Direct link to episode on Hulu below...
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/28/2020|
“Golden” is ageist AND offensive to statuettes, and “girls” is demeaning to women. The series will be renamed “The Cisgender Women in the Prime of their Lives”
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/28/2020|
FFS if anything this episode is worth watching even more so at this time.
If I recall, Dorothy doesn't want him to marry primarily because Lorraine is too old for him. Her family doesn't feel comfortable that he's white.
In the end they all come together because they're having a baby and family trumps difference.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/28/2020|
If you're a "good liberal" and you've obediently supported the cancellations leading up to now--including the reasonable, progressive cancellations as well as the unhinged, divorced-from-reality cancellations--do you really have the moral high ground to complain about this one? The answer is likely no, since you failed to restrain and actually aided this insane cultural revisionism and now you're learning that the best part about purity spirals is sooner or later it's your ass on the line.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/28/2020|
By pulling this episode you are denying these vlavk actors the chance to be seen
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/28/2020|
It reminds me of the people on Reddit who say “Normally I oppose the death penalty, but this crime was so heinous, he deserves it”
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/28/2020|
R48 / R50 - again with this bullshit argument? Are you not capable of nuanced responses? One can be opposed to blackface AND still appreciate that Hulu made the wrong call in this particular case.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/28/2020|
[quote]In case you haven't noticed, no, we can't cancel Trump, which is why people are making changes everywhere else, in areas that they can change.
I've been saying this exact same thing for a few years now. People feel powerless when it comes to holding real people in power accountable, so they're wasting all their energy in trying to change things that they can, even if its merely symbolic.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/28/2020|
[quote]Noted heifer Delta Burke is very clearly wearing black/brown face and deliberately impersonating a black Supreme.
I’m surprised they haven’t come yet for Designing Women. Two stars named Delta and Dixie? Seems like a target for cancellation.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/28/2020|
[quote]Remember , there was long period when ‘Girl/Girls’ was taboo. You’re only supposed to say ‘Woman/Women’.
Now you can only say “Cis/Trans”.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/28/2020|
Yes, Blanche snaps at the agent for suggesting she's a senior citizen. The edit has been there for a while, I found an Amazon review from 2016 saying the DVD had been edited.
I'd bet the 2007 DVD version wasn't edited. You can get copies of the 2007 version on Amazon for $7 or so.
Very odd edit, my memory is that the line isn't offensive at all, and apparently the agent saying he needs to interview everyone was also edited out. No reason to do that. Must have been an error and not a content edit.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/28/2020|
[quote] If I recall, Dorothy doesn't want him to marry primarily because Lorraine is too old for him.
And because she’s black. Too many differences.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/28/2020|
This will really fuck up the continuity of the series!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/28/2020|
The line is not on the Dvd, R56.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/28/2020|
While I can't speak for all black people, I know the difference between blackface and satire. And i also know that if you ignore context you are going to end up banning everything.
Again (and I'm not speaking for all black people) but all we asked for was for the police to stop murdering us and for you to stop honoring and turning racist confederates into heroes. I think all of this other stuff is woke white people losing their damned minds and going over board... but of course we are going to get the blame for all this while the woke white people just skate away untouched.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/28/2020|
[quote] It's this kind of thing that makes me, a white attorney who frequently represents black people pro bono, a person who has never had a racist thought before, feel fucking racist.
Why? It’s not as though black people asked Hulu to do this. You’re going to have to try a little harder to find justification for your racism.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/28/2020|
[quote] and now you're learning that the best part about purity spirals is sooner or later it's your ass on the line.
LOL. I know many DLers are ardent Golden Girls fans, but you need to get some perspective if you think the censorship of an episode equates to “your ass on the line.”
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/28/2020|
And of course, the fact that Lorraine's parents don't want her to marry Michael BECAUSE HE'S WHITE can't be called "racist" because SJWs et. al. have redefined it to mean ONLY "systematic racism".
So the Greta and her sisters get a free pass, just like the "Brothas only" dudes on Grindr.
PS She was also homophobic - "What do you want him to be, a dancer??"
|by Anonymous||reply 62||06/28/2020|
^^^ actually that shoudl read "CHOREOGRAPHER", not "dancer"
|by Anonymous||reply 63||06/28/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 64||06/28/2020|
Sophia was trying to end racism by fucking that old black man with alzheimers she met at the docks
|by Anonymous||reply 65||06/28/2020|
Actually, Sophia pretty much let her racist flag fly in this episode as well. If I'm correct, Dorothy reacted with trepidation when Sophia first enters the scene with Lorraine's family-so her saying something racist was not unexpected from her.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||06/28/2020|
The Golden Girls is going to end up banned. Too many comments about slavery, Asians, blacks, etc. The Left brought this on themselves.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||06/28/2020|
Sophia also fucked the Asian Gardener so she was an equal-opportunity slut
|by Anonymous||reply 68||06/28/2020|
[quote] That is even more ridiculous then them removing the Community episode
[quote] when her son confirms his fiancé is black.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||06/28/2020|
This is very niggardly on Hulu’s part.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||06/28/2020|
Ok, so when are the SJWs going to demand that Chris Rock be canceled? He uses the f-word slur for gay men often in his standups. When does he get his career ruined for his shameless bigotry?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||06/28/2020|
I think this is an overreaction for a show that is now almost 40 years old. That being said, this is a terrible episode and felt dated even by the standards of the day in the 1980s.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||06/28/2020|
More episodes that will probably get banned sooner or later:
- the episode with Blanche’s “mammy” - the episode where they believe their new black maid put a curse on them
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/28/2020|
They came for 30 Rock and I didn't say a thing. They came for Community and I didn't say a thing. They came for The Golden Girls and, now, there will be blood.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||06/28/2020|
A word of advice, folks, do NOT get between r74 and his Golden Girls.
You have been warned.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/28/2020|
Have you seen the comments by black people on Twitter? They're not having it.
This is performative white woke bullshit.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/28/2020|
They should lead the call to have our beloved girls RESTORED! Golden Girls are for EVERYONE!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||06/28/2020|
Doesn't Sophia call the the new renter in her old New York apartment a "spic"? That's the only thing on Golden Girls I've ever found offensive, but I wouldn't want it edited. It is what it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/28/2020|
This may be, to our current moral panic about race, what the Aziz Ansari incident was to the "Me Too" movement: the point when people realize that it's gotten completely out of hand, they're over-correcting, and that everybody needs to sit down, take a deep breath, and calm their tits a little.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/28/2020|
R78 noooo sorry that never happened. But in a great subversion of political correctness (when it was first rearing it’s ugly head), Sophia had this to say:
Dorothy: what have have you got in there?
Sophia: Mexican jumping beans. Sorry, HisPANic jumping beans ...
|by Anonymous||reply 80||06/28/2020|
Trying to do something about systemic racism has not "gotten completely out of hand."
Everyone is conflating what private entertainment companies are doing with what governments are doing. You need to stop that. They're not the same thing.
An entertainment company is going to do things that will help them maintain good PR, maintain profits, and promote good will. That's what we're seeing with the BBC, Hulu, HBO Max, etc.
When you say "We don't want these episodes removed, we want police to stop killing people" you sound like a fool, because the people responsible for Golden Girls reruns have NO INFLUENCE on cops or politicians to stop the murder of black people at the hands of the police.
This is not an either-or situation. You can't "trade in" the Golden Girls episode for police reform. You can't say "White people, stop giving us symbols and start giving us results" when the people responsible for symbolic change (reruns on Hulu) have no relationship to the people responsible for real change.
So why waste time blaming a handful of people at Hulu for "not doing the right thing" when they can't, even if they wanted to?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||06/28/2020|
When I wear my charcoal face mask I laugh a little, but no pictures because I don’t wanna be cancelled.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/28/2020|
[quote] When you say "We don't want these episodes removed, we want police to stop killing people" you sound like a fool, because the people responsible for Golden Girls reruns have NO INFLUENCE on cops or politicians to stop the murder of black people at the hands of the police.
No one thinks they do, you moron. People aren't saying that because they expect Hulu to effect social change; they are saying it because they are tired of hearing people like the hysterical queens in this thread blame BLM, SJWs, cancel culture, etc. for shit like the censorship of a tired old 80s TV show. They're merely pointing out that they don't care what happened in some ancient sitcom and never asked anybody to "cancel" it.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/28/2020|
I had a black friend and she started binge watching Golden Girls on HULU before this episode was removed... and she died.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/28/2020|
Beauty companies need to stop making charcoal masks black so this stuff stops.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/28/2020|
I'm talking about comments like R59, R83, plus all the stuff said on Twitter and Facebook about this lately.
I don't know why people like you insist on claiming "no one ever said that" when people right here in this thread did actually say that. Happens all the time. Your inability to read a whole thread or follow a conversation isn't my problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/28/2020|
[quote]When you say "We don't want these episodes removed, we want police to stop killing people" you sound like a fool, because the people responsible for Golden Girls reruns have NO INFLUENCE on cops or politicians to stop the murder of black people at the hands of the police.
If you need clarification of my statement then here it is. Stop with the empty fucking gestures. These entertainment companies, instead of removing television episodes, should put the power of their platforms behind police reform. That's good PR. Hiring more more minority creatives and performers and executives is good PR. Removing a silly episode of a silly little 40 year old sitcom does nothing. It solves nothing. And black people just end up getting blamed for it. Removing ancient problematic TV does not make up for lily white writers rooms and lily white boards of directors.
But this is always what happens. Woke white people go too fucking far, make a bunch of meaningless changes, post a few posts on social media, and then move on to the next cause without sticking around to see any real and meaningful and lasting results.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||06/28/2020|
I guess Hulu will start removing all the episodes of SNL that had white people playing blacks and Asians.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||06/28/2020|
[quote] I guess Hulu will start removing all the episodes of SNL that had white people playing blacks and Asians.
The removal of cisgendered men pretending to be women across the history of television will be one of the biggest purges of shows considered degenerate art.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/28/2020|
These entertainment companies, instead of removing television episodes, should put the power of their platforms behind police reform.
Not trying to be snotty, but what would that look like? How would that go? A ‘Very Special Episode‘ of some show? “Murphy Brown gets beat up by a cop”?
There are plenty of documentary, non-fiction shows about human rights violations and race. Nobody wants to have their comedy dragged down by horror like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||06/29/2020|
[quote] I'm talking about comments like [R59], [R83], plus all the stuff said on Twitter and Facebook about this lately. I don't know why people like you insist on claiming "no one ever said that" when people right here in this thread did actually say that.
FFS, I did not say “no one ever said that.” I took issue with your stupid assumption as to WHY they said it. R59 is actually a perfect example of what I was talking about. He’s not asking fucking Hulu to stop police brutality; he’s pointing out that stuff like the GG censorship is about “woke white people losing their damned minds and going over board... but of course we are going to get the blame for all this while the woke white people just skate away untouched.
He does not sound like a fool but you certainly do.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||06/29/2020|
By the 1960s , I LOVE LUCY had a racist line removed: In the episode where Lucy thinks the new neighbors are enemy agents who want to blow up the capitol (when they are only actors rehearsing a scene) , Fred adn Ricky go inspect the boiler and hear the 'enemy agents'. They burst into the Ricardo's apartment with their faces covered in soot from the boiler, Lucy gives them a withering look and says "Well, if it isn't the Gold Dust Twins!"
The line was put back in the DVD release,
Another racist moment is one of the funniest skits in the entire series where screaming Lucy is chased around the floor of the Tropicana by the "Zulu King",
|by Anonymous||reply 92||06/29/2020|
From "Cuban Pals" (1952)
|by Anonymous||reply 93||06/29/2020|
People have way too much time on their hands right now!
|by Anonymous||reply 94||06/29/2020|
Isn’t goldust a wrestler?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||06/29/2020|
Shirley Q. Liquor must be shitting her britches.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||06/29/2020|
Goldusts originalpersona, not to mention iconic face paint, would make sjw heads explode.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||06/29/2020|
If only Rose and Blanche had used Queen Helene Mint Julep faces masks this wouldn't be happening..
|by Anonymous||reply 98||06/29/2020|
[quote]I think all of this other stuff is woke white people losing their damned minds and going over board... but of course we are going to get the blame for all this while the woke white people just skate away untouched.
That's exactly right! Its mainly white liberals, namely female. They are the worst and are so desperate to be seen as 'woke.'
|by Anonymous||reply 99||06/29/2020|
Actual people of color couldn't possibly care less about this dumb shit. They want police reform and for people to stop killing them, which I believe, is a reasonable request.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||06/29/2020|
what it supposed to accomplished? is there a clamor for hulu to do it? any threats?
|by Anonymous||reply 101||06/29/2020|
No, there's no clamor for Hulu to do it; it's a cynical business decision by a company hoping to jump on the woke bandwagon.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||06/29/2020|
This is such bullshit. Get over it. The show is 40 years old. What about All in the family or The Jefferson’s? Where does this shit stop?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||06/29/2020|
R103 There is literally no end to this crap. What happened to the counter culture of the 60s and 70s. What about the artists and musicians who pushed the envelope? We live in a world where the feminists who tried to get horror and adult films banned back in the 70s and 80s are now considered not woke for their stance on biological sex. We now live in a world that punishes what would be considered formerly progressive artists for wanting to tell stories about women or African Americans but can't because of their race or gender. We live in a world that cancels people for hurting peoples' feelings even when they shed light on uncomfortable truths? This is not the progressivism of my generation and am disappointed that the people who I looked up to for not giving a fuck have become so pussified in their advanced age that they won't say anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||06/29/2020|
hundreds of thousands of likes on this tweet, the censors went too far when they came for Golden Girls!
|by Anonymous||reply 105||06/29/2020|
*THE Golden Girls
|by Anonymous||reply 106||06/29/2020|
Wow, that Gold Dust Twin shit was clearly racist; they look like a minstrel show in some of the pics.
They used those images until the mid-50's? Damn.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||06/29/2020|
R104 these militants are canceling and controlling the people who pay attention to them. The Rednecks & Republicans would tell them to go fuck themselves.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||06/29/2020|
Even Roxane Gay thinks this is stupid!
|by Anonymous||reply 109||06/29/2020|
What’s next? Bernice from Designing Women singing “black man, black man.. where did come from” you
|by Anonymous||reply 110||06/29/2020|
The episode where a racist Designing Woman puts black face on to be a "Supreme" should be the next one to go.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||06/29/2020|
R111, yes cuz then the actual message of the episode---that blackface is bad and explains WHY, the historical significance, etc.--- will be ERASED.
Let's actually just BAN all movies/plays/books that talk about slavery at all. I mean, if we erase history, what could happen? We'd never be "doomed to repeat it, would we??"
Why are SJWs so "limited?"
|by Anonymous||reply 112||06/29/2020|
[quote]The line was put back in the DVD release,
I'll have to go back and look.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||06/29/2020|
[quote]Actual people of color couldn't possibly care less about this dumb shit. They want police reform and for people to stop killing them, which I believe, is a reasonable request.
Not all POC face the same kind of racism. Asian-Americans need Harvard and other Ivy Leagues to stop limiting how many of them can attend and for white people to stop thinking that Asian men have small penises.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||06/29/2020|
Are they going to ban every episode that features ‘Florida’?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||06/29/2020|
I lost a Facebook friend for pointing out that it was a mud mask.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||06/29/2020|
They can't ban me! I'm a former countess AND top-selling dance artist!
|by Anonymous||reply 117||06/29/2020|
R116 I'm sorry for your loss!
|by Anonymous||reply 118||06/30/2020|
R116, they don't sound very mentally stable. Even my super SJW friends think this is insane.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||06/30/2020|
I thought if any episodes were to go it would be the one where they hire the black woman as a maid, fire her because she's useless, think she's worked voodoo on them, hitre her back so she'll lift the curse
|by Anonymous||reply 120||06/30/2020|
Ah, but that would make too much sense R120
I'm still waiting for that Supremes episode of Designing Women to get pulled. I'm shocked we haven't heard anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||06/30/2020|
[quote] [R111], yes cuz then the actual message of the episode---that blackface is bad and explains WHY, the historical significance, etc.--- will be ERASED.
Exactly, it seems like people are "cancelling" things without actually viewing and understanding them. I'm glad to report that as of right now "The Rowdy Girls" episode of Designing Women, is still on hulu. It is a great episode that manages to be laugh-out loud funny, while also tackling the serious issues of domestic violence and blackface. Plus, the guest star soap opera queen Kim Zimmer is perfect on it.
It is like when people routinely say the Bewitched episode "Sisters at Heart" is blackface and should be banned. They don't take into consideration that it was written by a class of 26 African American tenth graders and that the whole point of the episode was anti-racism. Yes it might be clunky and nieve but it was a major step forward, that should be honored not forgotten.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||07/02/2020|
You mean Marg-your-reet, r120?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||07/02/2020|
R114, just so you know, “people of color” is beginning to be reserved for black people. I recently heard a white woman scoff at the idea that an Indian (from India) woman was a POC. The woman in question is highly successful in her career and a threat to the white woman. “She’s not even a person of color! She’s Indian!”
|by Anonymous||reply 124||07/03/2020|
I was on the brink of cancelling Hulu because what they have to offer is lame. This was the straw that broke the camel's back. When they sent me a "sorry to see you go, how about a second chance" email, I let them have it and went off on a Julia Sugarbaker rant. Then I popped in my season 3, disc 3 Golden Girls DVD and watched the episode with a glass of wine. It was red, not white. I'm not racist.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||07/03/2020|
[quote][R114], just so you know, “people of color” is beginning to be reserved for black people. I recently heard a white woman scoff at the idea that an Indian (from India) woman was a POC. The woman in question is highly successful in her career and a threat to the white woman. “She’s not even a person of color! She’s Indian!”
I posted in another thread how the whole "POC" and "Black and brown" thing is such bullshit and is used by people with specific agendas, often hypocritically. Some examples include:
1. Indians sometimes being "brown" or POC, yet as a demographic group in the US, they over index on socio-economic factors (income, education, wealth), and often come from immigrants who were of the upper classes/castes of Indian society to begin with (and their own society is super classist itself).
2. "Hispanics/Latinos" all being included in "black and brown"/POC when most scholars and the US Census Bureau consider Hispanic/Latino descent and Race as 2 separate factors, as they should, since people in various Latin countries can be anywhere form the darkest black/African descent to the blondest/blue-eyed/European descent, and everything in between including Native. The worst is when clearly white/mostly european Latinos who are also wealth and upper class pull the "brown/POC" card, as if they are marginalized or privileged.
3. Pretty much the same for Muslims. Islam is a religion, not a race, and Muslims also come in every race and color from pure Africans to Middle Easterners, to blond/blue eyes people in the Middle East to Asians in Indonesia. Yet "Muslims" are now included in "POC" and "black and brown" as well, e.g. "the Muslim Travel Ban is racist against brown people.".
Of course, now you can cue the morons screaming "Nazi", "Russian", "Boris", Republican" blah blah blah.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||07/03/2020|
[quote] just so you know, “people of color” is beginning to be reserved for black people
Yeah, the powers that be took care of that shit. They invented a new BIPOC designation. Those POC folks need to go to the back of the line.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||07/03/2020|
R116 I wanna know what you said to her!
|by Anonymous||reply 128||07/03/2020|
Dang, some pressed white folks on this thread. (But, yes, in this particular case, Hulu made a stupid decision)
|by Anonymous||reply 129||07/03/2020|
Fortunately you can still enjoy real black people doing inoffensive comedic real black people things on the YouTube.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||07/03/2020|
Lookin' at you, Star Trek. You're next.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||Last Sunday at 12:10 AM|
I think that this, and the many other recent instances of boneheaded corporate attempts to be "woke," are what happens when rich white men try to put themselves into somebody else's shoes for five fucking seconds.
They have NO idea what other people are up against, and what are therefore reasonable means to remove those barriers. Totally clueless.
The result is idiocy on a cosmic scale. Not to mention a comic scale. But hang on, everyone...this, too, shall pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||Last Sunday at 3:09 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 133||Last Sunday at 6:53 AM|
Honestly don't care, only reason I am responding that I don't care is, I don't get why anyone cares. Keep it cancel it, it is over and done, if there was any attempt at racism with the episode all the people who did it are gone or soon will be. I have no clue whether this was racism, was mocking racism, whether it was mocking those upset with racism or if they were just going for cheap laughs.
I do care about real racism, about people dying because of their skin color, about people being disadvantaged because of their skin color or who they love or who they perceive they are. I just don't care about some TV show that was done over 35 years ago, I care about today.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||Last Sunday at 7:03 AM|
Never really been clear how Amos and Andy was any worse than the Honeymooners ,the Flintstones or others of their time. Each was bumbling husbands trying to outsmart their smarter wives and spend the evening at the Lodge Hall. At least The Kingfish never threatened his wife with physical violence.
And a generation later this was the biggest thing on TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||Last Sunday at 1:27 PM|
R135 Most of the complaints about Amos and Andy are because of the radio version and was just carried over to the tv show. If you ever watch it, you would see that in addition to Andy and the Kingfish, it also shows Black judges, lawyers, doctors, etc. all with various levels of competence and ability, just like white people.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||Last Sunday at 1:31 PM|
"White Chicks" is not racist because unlike with black face, black people were never in any position of authority against white people. White people used black face to simply mock and jeer at the black people that they felt were inferior to them, and society agreed at the time. No such equal position was ever held by black people towards white people in this country.
WC is stupid, classless and unfunny perhaps, but not racist.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||Last Monday at 4:49 PM|
R137 Only by the "new" definition of racist. The older, and better, definition doesn't require a person to have power to oppress. It is simply viewing your race as superior to others, stereotyping another race, being prejudiced against another race, and/or making fun of another race. Archie Bunker AND George Jefferson were both classified as racists in the 1970/80s. It was still the definition in use when I graduated from high school in 2002.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||Last Monday at 5:03 PM|
R137: LOL. Sure, Jan. Someone whose cultural touchstones are Archie Bunker and George Jefferson graduated high school in 2002. Were you held back 20 years?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||Last Monday at 9:01 PM|
Try this moron R139.
Not ALL racism is "systemic racism". The latter is a SUBSET of the former, but that is probably too complex for you to understand.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||Last Tuesday at 7:25 AM|
Don't look at me.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||Last Tuesday at 7:38 AM|
R139 I graduated in 2002. But I grew up watching reruns of classic 70s and 80s shows on my local FOX affiliate, The Jeffersons, All In The Family, Goodtimes, Amen, 227, Gunsmoke, Little House on the Prairie, etc. Cable didn't arrive, where I lived, until several years after I graduated. In college, me and my friends were obsessed with the 1970s Match Game. Just because you are a millennial doesn't mean that you don't know anything about what came before. Lucy is still cultural touchstone even though I Love Lucy was in the 1950s.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||Last Tuesday at 8:38 AM|
[quote] [R137] Only by the "new" definition of racist. The older, and better, definition doesn't require a person to have power to oppress.
I first learned the (not) "new" definition when I was in college in the mid-1980s. You can always use "bigoted" or "prejudiced" if you feel the need to describe someone who hates white people because they're white.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||Last Tuesday at 8:42 AM|
Definition of racism 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles b: a political or social system founded on racism
3: racial prejudice or discrimination
|by Anonymous||reply 144||Last Tuesday at 8:51 AM|