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Dramageddon 3.0: Karmageddon

Anybody following the drama that's finally spilled over into the mainstream from the youtube beauty community? The latest: the Smiths have publicly denounced Shane Dawson for pretending to masturbate to a poster of Willow Smith when she was 11 and putting the video online.

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by Anonymousreply 203Yesterday at 7:22 PM

[quote]the youtube beauty community?

Kill me now.

by Anonymousreply 106/27/2020

She's gotten fat.

by Anonymousreply 206/27/2020

The Smiths should probably steer clear of trying to create any controversy about gay people since they have so many gay skeletons in their own closet. I know nothing about Shane Dawson doing this but it's quite obvious for anyone who's seen like 5 minutes of his videos that is was most probably an outrageous joke.

by Anonymousreply 306/27/2020

I think he should invest in those giant glasses Elaine Stritch took to wearing. He needs something.

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by Anonymousreply 406/27/2020

newest video on the situation:

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by Anonymousreply 506/27/2020

From those screencaps, he looks like Russell Crowe's younger brother.

by Anonymousreply 606/27/2020

"The YouTube beauty community"

Angel of Death, take me now.

by Anonymousreply 706/27/2020

Why can no one just say "it was a joke" and leave it at that?

I know the YouTubers live for drama but this is making everyone stupider by association.

by Anonymousreply 806/27/2020

[Quote] Why can no one just say "it was a joke" and leave it at that?

Because influences know how to drag shit out. It's basically an apology tour and he'll probably benefit from it in the long run.

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by Anonymousreply 1006/27/2020

They take it seriously because the audience believes it is real life.

by Anonymousreply 1106/27/2020

[quote]"The YouTube beauty community"

R7, it's huge, and I mean HUGE. Google how many thousands of people flock to every public appearance by these YT make-up stars. Shane Dawson, who's never had anything to do with make-up before, and Jeffree Star apparently earned $35M in a few seconds after launching their Conspiracy palette last year. Shane got at least $10M immediately, and who knows much after that.

by Anonymousreply 1206/27/2020

I must be really out of it. I’ve never been influenced by any of them. Kartrashians, Bieber, the YouTube beauty crowd.

by Anonymousreply 1306/27/2020

It’s June so it must be time for another beauty influencer scandal. Has James Charles commented yet?

by Anonymousreply 1406/27/2020

R13 it's all young gaylings, tween girls, and RuPaul's Drag Race future contestants.

They talk like a Twitter feed and are exhausting.

by Anonymousreply 1506/27/2020

He's got Jaden using all caps.

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by Anonymousreply 1606/27/2020

A summation of Karmageddon up to Shane Dawson's apology video:

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by Anonymousreply 1706/28/2020

Also, Trans White Nationalist Blair White will drop a video today defending her maybe pedo friend Shane Dawson and exposing Jeffree Star:

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by Anonymousreply 1806/28/2020

Good, we hate Jeffree Star too.

by Anonymousreply 1906/28/2020

Jeffree Star is like Trump- he's teflon. He's been exposed so many times, that we can see what he's digesting.

by Anonymousreply 2006/28/2020

Blair White's video exposing Jeffree Star for extortion using a recording of Grayson Dolan accusing James Charles of sexual assault, allegedly

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by Anonymousreply 2106/28/2020

I'm not clicking on that video. What are the details of this alleged Dolan-Charles assault?

by Anonymousreply 2206/28/2020

First off, who are the "Smiths" and which are their gay skeletons?

Second off, who's Grayson Dolan?

by Anonymousreply 2306/28/2020

Grayson is the attractive Dolan Twin. They're Youtubers.

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by Anonymousreply 2406/28/2020

Blair White is an ultra-right wing tranny who loves Trump, her outrage is as fake as her pussy.

by Anonymousreply 2506/28/2020

R24 I thought they were identical?

by Anonymousreply 2606/28/2020

What is it that the Pinkett-Smith children do?

by Anonymousreply 2706/28/2020

They are identical but one is more handsome.

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by Anonymousreply 2806/28/2020

Where does Jeffree come into this? Isn't he friends with Shane? Are they feuding now?

by Anonymousreply 2906/28/2020

This all seems like a soap opera where all the youtubers are in on it.

by Anonymousreply 3006/28/2020

R28 Because one has stubble and the other doesn’t? Isn’t that easily rectified? So, that one is more beautiful than the other something held self evident to both of them?

by Anonymousreply 3106/28/2020

I see differences in them. You may not. That's ok.

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by Anonymousreply 3306/28/2020

1980s band.

by Anonymousreply 3406/28/2020

R33, read the OP's post.

by Anonymousreply 3506/28/2020

Oh, Will Smith's children! Thanks, r35.

by Anonymousreply 3606/28/2020

No one likes the Smith children.

by Anonymousreply 3706/28/2020

Unlike public perception most people don't like Will Smith either. He's blockbuster magnet but his pushing of his lesbo "wife" and untalented and unattractive children has put off many executives.

Emaciated-looking Jaden had been at some point blacklisted off all major rap and hip hop studios in LA because no one could stand his entitled ass. This whole family feeds off drama, they're annoying as fuck, I'm not surprised they're taking a stupid 8 second video off a joke and turning it into something about them. Look at how they've made the Oscars about them too.

by Anonymousreply 3806/28/2020

You can bet your ass that if Kevin Hart had made the same joke, they'd be calling people drama queens and saying it's just a joke, chill.

by Anonymousreply 3906/28/2020

Hasn’t this video been around for years, literally 6 or 7? That’s a long time to suddenly build up a rage about it.

by Anonymousreply 4006/28/2020

He's hideous looking and not only that he makes gays look like pedophiles. He's been sexually harassing little girls for a while now and trying to pass it off as "just a joke" and I'm not talking about just jerking off to pictures. I couldn't care less if his "career" is ruined over this. Good riddance!

by Anonymousreply 41Last Monday at 8:37 AM

Aren’t they officially the Pinkett-Smiths?

by Anonymousreply 42Last Monday at 8:58 AM

Say what you will about the P Smiths, Will is terrific to work with. He treats his hair/makeup/costume crew like they're golden. I did the reshoots of, "After Earth", and we had a weekend that was pretty much choose your own adventure, and it was all courtesy of him.

by Anonymousreply 43Last Monday at 10:12 AM

I’m most offended by the ugliness of Ms. Dawson

by Anonymousreply 44Last Monday at 10:17 AM

[quote] He's been sexually harassing little girls for a while now and trying to pass it off as "just a joke"

No he hasn't stop making shit up. He's a bisexual (though I truly think he's just gay) formerly morbidly obese kid who got real thin and handsome for a while and used self deprecating humor and shock jokes, just that.

Are you a frau? You act like one. Stop bastardizing pedophilia and real abuse. Making off color and jokes for shock value has nothing to do with abuse or being a pedophile. Pretending to masturbate to a poster of a annoying teen celebrity for laughs is not the same as harassing someone.

Get a fucking clue. I'm sorry I'm a survivor of real child sex abuse, every time you people conflate crude jokes to that you're making it more difficult to real victims to come forward, because you banalize the act and then no one believes us.

Fuck you.

by Anonymousreply 45Last Monday at 10:19 AM

Will Smith is that kind of fake nice person who goes out of his way to be nice and cultivate a cool persona because he has many skeletons in his closet.

by Anonymousreply 46Last Monday at 10:23 AM

I know very little about each of them, but Shane Dawson sounds very much like Howard Stern?

by Anonymousreply 47Last Monday at 10:51 AM

What talent does Shane Dawson have? He's not funny. He's not attractive. He's certainly not interesting. Why do people watch him on YouTube? What is it?

by Anonymousreply 48Last Monday at 11:05 AM

r8, this isn't like the director/writer that lost his job on some comic book movie for a one-off, joke about children on twitter or Jenna Marbles getting crap for mimicking that black rapper during a period 10 years ago when she tanned heavily. People aren't dismissing his comments as 'jokes' because he has a history of, among other things, making sexually inappropriate comments usually towards children. Laughing about a baby being raped to death and calling it 'Amazing'; laughing about people fucking his dog; discussing blowjobs with his uncomfortable young relative (a 12 y/o niece iirc); calling a 6 y/o sexy; calling a 14 y/o hot; having a young girl (10 or 12 y/o) twerk for him and telling her how to move her ass better; so on and so forth. All of this on top of his repeated 'jokes' about beastiality and racist 'jokes' finally caught up with him. I'm aware he claims to be gay/bisexual, but there's something off with him and we're better off without fauxlebrities him or that ghoul, Jefree, representing gay men.

r28, the one on the left is hotter. One on the right has a wider jaw and more prominent chin -- like a Leno caricature.

r6 He has the same creepy wall-eyed look of Pennywise. I hate seeing videos with him in the thumbnail.

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by Anonymousreply 49Last Monday at 11:05 AM

R49 Wow, someone has been keeping close detailed tabs on him and his videos. If this has been happening for so long why is it that no one has expressed issues prior to this? The timing just seems to be very well planned for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 50Last Monday at 11:13 AM

I'm pretty sure Shane Dawson is gay, so I don't think his tweets about (very sexualized) photos of young Willow Pinkett-Smith were meant in a "ooh this makes me hot" pedo manner.

That being said, I think he's a tool.

by Anonymousreply 51Last Monday at 12:52 PM

It's possible the Pinkett-Smiths are trying to take him down as a means of promoting themselves and Willow/Jaden's Youtube careers.

Get clicks by cancelling someone much bigger than you.

by Anonymousreply 52Last Monday at 12:53 PM

R45, I'm a gay man, asshole. And he's not gay he's bi and a pedo at that. Did you not bother to watch the videos of him with his girlfriend miming a sex act in front of a 12 year old girl and probing her about her sexlife; asking her if she's on her period? Or where he's aggressively demanding one of his young fans twerk for him and expose herself to him, and that to in front of his own mother?? He's openly bragged about looking up child porn and said how he found a six year old girl to be sexy...Oh, but it's all just "crude jokes" right?

by Anonymousreply 53Last Monday at 1:16 PM

Straight teen boys like to act like they're psychopaths with no regard for morality, let alone taste. In his youth, Shane tried hard to fit in this mold, probably as a disguise for his homosexuality. It's probably something his douchey circle of friends used to do. He's unlucky that now, unlike most formerly teenagers, he's a public person and can be held to account for the things he said as a youth.

by Anonymousreply 54Last Monday at 2:19 PM

[quote] What talent does Shane Dawson have? He's not funny. He's not attractive. He's certainly not interesting. Why do people watch him on YouTube? What is it?

You must be old to ask that. When Shane started on Youtube when it was launched he was very hot and thin, after years of therapy and diet. He became popular talking about his past with body dysmorphia and his diet to lose weight as well as doing skits with a plethora of characters that were both funny and popular. Shanaynay being a highlight of his impersonations.

He's an excellent comedian, very versatile. Many of his previous cancellations on social media were on account of his impersonations, specially those of Black celebrities, which of course, idiotic activists today consider blackface, which they were not.

He's not bi, sorry, he's just a gay guy and he's not a pedo, stop banalizing that. He makes crude jokes for shock value.

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by Anonymousreply 55Last Monday at 2:33 PM

Ditto, R53. There’s always been a problem of child predators attracted to girls either claiming to be or “acting gay.” Regardless of how Shane I.D.s, he acts femme and camps it up to seem non-threatening to girls and their parents. This has been a problem in child pageants and the entertainment industry for a long time (straight men playing gay, working as acting, dance, vocal coaches in order to gain access to young girls). Shane’s pattern of behavior and weird, evasive non-apologies fits this to a T.

by Anonymousreply 56Last Monday at 2:44 PM

He was making crude jokes, if you can't tell the difference between someone "bragging" about doing shocking things from people actually acting on it, you just have a low IQ. Sexual predators and real pedophiles don't talk about their desires openly on videos and podcasts, how are are you, 12? I guess nuance is unheard of in your vocabulary. He's saying all these things to shock, plain and simple, you're a moron to think otherwise, you're the typical imbecile who gangs up on people with zero critical thinking. Your a pedophile's wet dream, because you conflate everything with it, like a church lady would.

by Anonymousreply 57Last Monday at 2:51 PM

R57 If the best-case scenario is that he’s not a pedophile, just a deranged guy who thinks jokes about pedophilia are funny, I still would not want him around kids. He’s a creep, and the older he gets, the creepier he gets. There’s another youtuber like him - Onision - with the same gross behavior, same excuses, and nebulous sexual orientation (they even look like brothers). It’s as if they’ve given up on adding “MAP” to “LGBT” and are trying to pass as one of the other letters.

by Anonymousreply 58Last Monday at 3:12 PM

R57, There are YouTube channels of pedophiles OPENLY talking about their attraction to kids. Go on Twitter, it's full of pedos, they go by MAP (Minor Attracted Person). They're not hiding it anymore, that should worry you.

by Anonymousreply 59Last Monday at 3:42 PM

Philip DeFranco sums up the Dramageddon, Shane Dawson situation up to the present. Target is also removing Dawson's books from its stores and website.

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by Anonymousreply 60Last Monday at 6:22 PM

Shane is such an odd duck in the beauty community; he seems to have infiltrated it precisely to gain a huge fanbase of young girls and nothing more. If he REALLY wants shock value, he should go back to being the guy he was BEFORE he did his youtube makeover.

Imagine the reaction if he dropped his “edgy bisexual” persona in favor of his former self - fat nerd with messy hair, baggy T-shirt and cargo shorts, asking a preteen about her period; fake-masturbating to a poster of an 11 year-old celebrity; teaching a 12 year-old girl how to use a Peeps marshmallow chick as a dildo. Now THAT would be shocking.

by Anonymousreply 61Last Monday at 6:55 PM

To the person talking about how Shane was thin and hot and got popular talking about his body dysmorphia, again, why do you think some random stranger with no talent except the ability to talk about himself for hours is interesting? Who the duck could possibly give a shit?

YouTube people should be treated like Scientologists. Ignore and shun.

by Anonymousreply 62Last Monday at 7:34 PM

I wish the people who are so paranoid about pedophiles lurking everywhere would relax a bit. There is something very primal about the issue that causes people to lose all sense of justice and operate purely on emotion. There's a reason why some idiot threatened everyone at a pizza place because of an alleged "pedophile ring".

And it's not just people with kids, either. It's a cultural thing and I think it actually makes true pedophiles harder to spot because there are so many false positives with these accusations being thrown around every time someone makes a crude joke or comment.

by Anonymousreply 63Last Monday at 8:31 PM

He looks like someone showing half of his face from behind the edge of a mirror

by Anonymousreply 64Last Monday at 8:33 PM

All of this is moral panic at its most absurd. A guy makes crude jokes for shock value 10 years ago and suddenly is termed a pedophile. If you church ladies and mob mentality morons can't see how this hurts victims of abuse and how it helps to banalize true harassment, you're beyond repair.

by Anonymousreply 65Last Monday at 8:52 PM

I came back to add, that Shane also...

- admitted to searching for CP;

- joked about being scared of his computer getting stolen because "you know how much blackmail they would have on me? I mean the fact that I haven't been on to catching is like my miracle";

- was accused of weird sexual abuse of his cat;

- 'joked' about people fucking his dog;

- mimed about masturbating to a then 11 y/o Willow Smith;

- went into detail about how he wanted to dismember a woman that criticized him;

- talked with his young cousin (13 at the time) about sex acts and her period as well as having her perform sex acts on a sausage;

and there's this gem below

People going after Shane aren't being hysterical, they're are recognizing him for the disturbing individual he is.

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by Anonymousreply 66Last Monday at 8:55 PM

[quote] To the person talking about how Shane was thin and hot and got popular talking about his body dysmorphia, again, why do you think some random stranger with no talent except the ability to talk about himself for hours is interesting? Who the duck could possibly give a shit?

First of all, he wasn't an untalented person just talking about himself, he was a talented comedic actor, who did many impersonations and created very popular and creative skits that went on for many years. I've even posted a link to a video of his from 10 years ago. He was so popular he was even considered for a pilot at the CW at some point, so your point is moot.

As for talking about themselves, a lot of people care about that. Haven't you heard about advice columns and teen magazines? Maybe you're just too old to understand this and I mean no disrespect, but you seem to still perceive social media and Youtube as a carbon copy of TV, when in fact it is the opposite of that.

Social media is a hybrid of TV, news station, magazines and personal journals, all at once. Its segmented nature is successful precisely because it allows for all sorts of diverse content a tv station would never be able to cover, that includes listening to other teens and people like yourself or who you perceive to be like yourself, sharing their problems and giving you advice, like magazines, advice columns and journals do. So to answer your question, a lot of teens, in fact millions of teens and young adults give a lot of shit about that, as you did with the older media outlets when you were young.

That's why youth spends more time on Youtube and social media than watching TV or reading magazines.

by Anonymousreply 67Last Monday at 9:13 PM

[quote] People going after Shane aren't being hysterical,

Yes they are and so are you. You sound like an unhinged Pizzagate Q-anon moron.

by Anonymousreply 68Last Monday at 9:16 PM

Shane helped orchestrate the allegations of predation that almost destoryed James Charles's life.

So I dont feel bad for his stupid ass.

by Anonymousreply 69Last Monday at 9:21 PM

OKAY, you fangirls who say that I’m an alarmist for pointing out the red flags: I watched Shane’s most recent content, and it looks like he’s left the beauty community for horror enthusiasts. Good for him. It’s the perfect outlet for Mr. Creepers. However, he’s giving off a major Michael Alig vibe, so if dismembered transients are one day dug up in his basement, don’t say I didn’t warn you!

That said, even though Alig threw pieces of his drug dealer into the Hudson, he’s a free man - with a youtube channel, naturally. Because Michael, like Shane, has “IT,” baby. Both clowns are untouchable, because people want to be entertained with DRAMA, like, seeing an 11 year-old boy pretending to inhale ketamine off a drag queen’s ass with a convicted murderer.

by Anonymousreply 70Last Monday at 9:35 PM

Karmageddon has reached the New York Times. Title: Is This the End for Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star?

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by Anonymousreply 71Last Monday at 9:36 PM

[quote] Shane helped orchestrate the allegations of predation that almost destoryed James Charles's life.

As per the trans video posted upthread, wasn't the accusation real and the victim proven to be someone whose voicemail or message Jeffree Star was holding as blackmail material? Did I get that right?

NY Times has an article on Shane and Jeffree Star. Shits getting real.

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by Anonymousreply 72Last Monday at 10:00 PM

R72, Jeffree is so pathologically insane that I wouldnt be surprised if she got her boyfriend to pretend to be Grayson on voicemail.

by Anonymousreply 73Last Monday at 10:06 PM

R70 is a hyperbolic church lady.

by Anonymousreply 74Last Monday at 10:34 PM

Is there any chance that James Charles is actually behind this fall of Shane and Jeffree?

by Anonymousreply 75Last Monday at 10:40 PM

[quote] I'm a gay man, asshole. And he's not gay he's bi and a pedo at that. Did you not bother to watch the videos of him with his girlfriend miming a sex act in front of a 12 year old girl and probing her about her sexlife; asking her if she's on her period? Or where he's aggressively demanding one of his young fans twerk for him and expose herself to him, and that to in front of his own mother?? He's openly bragged about looking up child porn and said how he found a six year old girl to be sexy...Oh, but it's all just "crude jokes" right?

Yes I did, and you know what? He acted in these videos like most men do. Maybe you don't realize that, because you sound like a prissy pot who were raised by your grandma surrounded only by women, but men do stuff like that all the time and this type of offensive and crude humor is the norm. Nothing there really stands out, maybe to someone who only knows prissy gays and women maybe.

by Anonymousreply 76Last Monday at 10:44 PM

[quote][R70] is a hyperbolic church lady

Just you wait, kiddo. Within a year this thread will be bumped up and bombarded with “I-told-you-sos.”

by Anonymousreply 77Last Monday at 10:58 PM

Just when you thought The New York Times couldn't become any more of a joke.

by Anonymousreply 78Last Monday at 11:12 PM

You told us what? That a fat gayboy made crude jokes for shock value to be validated 10 years ago? We already know that. As for Dawson, this is what my experience with PR tells me will happen. With the management he has, of a top agency, UTA, he'll be doing his horror movie next year and probably another conspiracy series. He had already quit the beauty world before this stupid cancellation came along. He had survived 3 already and this won't be any different. Maybe the attention whoring of the Smiths might complicate things, but he'll survive that.

He's actually lucky all the attention went to the stupid Willow video and not his blackface past, given the current BLM climate. Trust me hes better off with it.

[quote] Just when you thought The New York Times couldn't become any more of a joke.

If anyone told you the NY Times would be reporting on gay gossip using a 15 year old tea spiller as source would you have believe it? This is the nail the coffin of their journalism.

by Anonymousreply 79Last Monday at 11:16 PM

R79 His move to horror honestly sounds like a healthy way to cope with his demons, unless he really has a thing for underage girls. If the jokes are a disguise for the truth (anyone with a creepy uncle or stepfather will know what I’m talking about), it will only going get worse with age, like other untreated addictions

I’m grossed out at the comments that it’s “normal” for men to say sexual things to prepubescent girls and ask them to sexually act out - even AS A JOKE, but I guess it depends on the people you hang out with..

by Anonymousreply 80Last Monday at 11:58 PM

I think it's clear as water Shane is a full blown homosexual, all this bisexual thing was just his way out of the closet. He's clearly gay so I don't think he cares about women, much less about little girls.

You may be grossed out by it, but that doesn't make them any less common among young men of all ages, even the gay ones who aren't prissy queens. I've made some of these comments as a teen, and I'm gay and love bears, so hardly a pedo. It's sadly a very common behavior and that doesn't make us pedophiles like the hyperbolic church lady says.

by Anonymousreply 81Last Tuesday at 12:06 AM

Do they work in the Legitimate Beauty Industry?

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by Anonymousreply 82Last Tuesday at 12:16 AM

Again, how is he any different than Howard Stern?

by Anonymousreply 83Last Tuesday at 12:51 AM

He seems like kind of a creep. But apparently he has said before that he himself was molested as a child so maybe humor is just his way of trying to cope with it.

by Anonymousreply 84Last Tuesday at 1:51 AM

R80 No, it's that some people aren't pearl-clutchers. We simply don't think a few jokes are a big deal and yes, edgelords exist in the world and the main reason it's fun is because of dramatic MARYs like you who pretend a few stray words are the Sign of Predators in our Midst. If you didn't react in such over-the-top hyperbolic fashion I doubt people like Shane would say such things.

All of the comments you're using for him, by the way - "creepy", "pedo" "red flags" are words that homophobes have been using for ages to label gay people with a broad brush. I'm thinking you either aren't gay or have some internalized homophobia of your own you're dealing with.

by Anonymousreply 85Last Tuesday at 3:08 AM

Jeffree Star, I hope, gets cancelled by this, or at least stops him getting his tentacles in everything. He definitely has some severe issues. I agree with r73.

The most normal person in the beauty YouTube clique looks like James Charles, surprisingly. He's got some good representation and seems to be intelligent, but not evil like Jeffree Star or Tati Westbrook.

by Anonymousreply 86Last Tuesday at 3:12 AM

So glad I don’t know any of these people

by Anonymousreply 87Last Tuesday at 3:29 AM

was he anybody till this talentless fug started sellin overpriced makeup??? god he ug….

by Anonymousreply 88Last Tuesday at 3:50 AM

Be awesome to see them both broke and down/ out some day.....examples of wretched excess/ pigs at the trough...

by Anonymousreply 89Last Tuesday at 4:33 AM

I'm outraged.

by Anonymousreply 90Last Tuesday at 4:56 AM

Attention whore and cunt Tati Westbrook is BREAKING HER SILENCE!!!! on this.

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by Anonymousreply 91Last Tuesday at 9:33 AM

r67 - Shane's intern working for Starbucks and "exposure"

You're really too stupid to live. Have fun watching your boss blow his dog and search for kiddie porn.

by Anonymousreply 92Last Tuesday at 10:01 AM

Who knew? James Charles was the sane one of the bunch.

by Anonymousreply 93Last Tuesday at 10:05 AM

You could see how James Charles handled Tati Cuntbrook and Jeffree Star's cancellation attempt that there was a reason he has been so successful.

by Anonymousreply 94Last Tuesday at 10:12 AM

R92 you do realize that these people get famous because people like them, right? So there's going to be some people in the world who will stand up for them and defend them. You clearly are on a pedo hunt but accusing everyone who defends him of working for him is just silly.

by Anonymousreply 95Last Tuesday at 10:14 AM

Shane freaking out on Instagram Live

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by Anonymousreply 96Last Tuesday at 10:26 AM

James Charles isn't escaping this, y'all. He's currently being dragged into it. Apparently Jeffree has a recording of Grayson Dolan going on record and saying that James sexually assaulted him. Shit is getting real. This will tarnish the public's view of gay men for years to come.

by Anonymousreply 97Last Tuesday at 10:26 AM

I hate the Smiths. They're the black Kardashians.

by Anonymousreply 98Last Tuesday at 10:28 AM

Shane's fiance Ryland going off on twitter:

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by Anonymousreply 99Last Tuesday at 10:28 AM

R97 If he does then he should release it, and Grayson should speak up. Jeffree is psycho.

by Anonymousreply 100Last Tuesday at 10:29 AM

R100 It sounds awful but I'm kind of glad he isn't (if it's real I mean). Remember when James was accused of sexual harassment and grooming by that Gage dude? Remember how people basically treated it as a free pass to be openly homophobic?

The last thing our community needs right now is to give people an excuse to start the homophobia train up again.

by Anonymousreply 101Last Tuesday at 10:35 AM

Oh my god, this keeps unraveling and unraveling with more accusations, backlash, conspiracies, alliances and drama. The dirty world of makeup, who knew.

by Anonymousreply 102Last Tuesday at 10:44 AM

I've hated Shane for so long. I'm glad he's getting cancelled. It's what he deserves for pretentiously fancying himself a "documentarian" because he makes hour long youtube videos about whatever the drama of the month is.

He talks a big game about having no self esteem but he clearly thinks a lot of himself and has a huge ego. Anybody who has the self image issues he claims to have would have killed themselves after being cancelled. We're on like the third day of his cancellation and yet he's still defending himself. That should tell you something. The "boo boo I hate myself" thing is all smoke and mirrors used to generate sympathy. In reality he's a narcissistic sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 103Last Tuesday at 10:48 AM

r95 - Shane's intern earning that Passionfruit Ice Tea.

Get it, gurl. Keep defending that dull asswipe. Earn them lattes!

by Anonymousreply 104Last Tuesday at 10:51 AM

r101 This is the inevitable result of equality: gay teens are going to grow up at the same rate as their straight peers, instead of suppressing themselves until college or later. Until James Charles, we never saw a queer go through his terrible teens in the public eye. We, as a community, can't suppress this even if we wanted to. We can only remind the straight world of how much leeway they gave themselves during their teen years before they emerged to eventually become productive members of society.

by Anonymousreply 105Last Tuesday at 10:52 AM

R104 thinks she's clever, but she's not.

by Anonymousreply 106Last Tuesday at 10:53 AM

R105 I wouldn't call it equality. If it was equality gay men wouldn't get cancelled for hitting on straight men.

Being able to become famous as an out gay man doesn't mean that we're equal. It just means that now the public views us as clowns instead of boogeymen.

by Anonymousreply 107Last Tuesday at 10:54 AM

An ice tea AND a scone for r104.

Fuck off now. We're done.

by Anonymousreply 108Last Tuesday at 10:57 AM

r107 Agreed. I should've said "as we get closer to equality"

by Anonymousreply 109Last Tuesday at 10:58 AM

R108 seems as if her tampon is stuck sideways.

by Anonymousreply 110Last Tuesday at 11:01 AM

Those Dolan twins always seem sexually ambiguous to me?

by Anonymousreply 111Last Tuesday at 11:02 AM

Shane pays his interns in Starbucks drinks? I missed that accusation in Tati’s video. But they are very long and convoluted, that woman doesn’t know the meaning of brevity or how to hold back crocodile tears.

by Anonymousreply 112Last Tuesday at 11:04 AM

R111 They're straight, sadly. Here's Grayson's ass.

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by Anonymousreply 113Last Tuesday at 11:06 AM

Nice view.

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by Anonymousreply 114Last Tuesday at 11:06 AM

Well I hope Ryan Murphy is busy casting and working on scripts for Feud:The Beauty Wars Drama. I’m sure he’ll have Sarah play Tati. I think Aaron Carter would be great as Jeffree. I wish Philip Seymour Hoffman was still alive to play Shane. Maybe Jonah Hill could pull it off? And in an amazing twist, just have James Charles play himself.

by Anonymousreply 115Last Tuesday at 11:10 AM

Foreclosure sale coming soon.

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by Anonymousreply 116Last Tuesday at 11:32 AM

Fire sale!

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by Anonymousreply 117Last Tuesday at 11:32 AM

Please, James Charles will get out of this just fine.

I hope Tati gets cancelled. Hate that cunt.

by Anonymousreply 118Last Tuesday at 11:33 AM

Her house will be cancelled too!

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by Anonymousreply 119Last Tuesday at 11:35 AM

R118 People still call him a rapist after that Gage kid ruined his reputation.

by Anonymousreply 120Last Tuesday at 11:36 AM

[quote] Shane's intern working for Starbucks and "exposure" You're really too stupid to live. Have fun watching your boss blow his dog and search for kiddie porn.

The only stupid person here is your hyperbolic self clutching pearls over a fat queen telling crude jokes, get a clue and a psychiatrist, church lady.

Now, back to the top, I'm fairly intrigued by this whole debacle because we're witnessing first hand the future of brands an celebrities in the age of fast information and PR. This is interesting and a masterclass on crisis management and a case study on the implications of oversharing that us millennials seem to be unaware of.

Here's Shane's reaction to Tati's video. Why did he stream his reaction? UTA is doing a terrible job here, where's Greg Goodfried? Is he sleeping through this? This kid is one of his biggest clients.

Billie Eilish on the other hand just unfollowed everyone on her social media this week, best fucking move.

The most absurd thing of this is that James Charles though inappropriate with his sexual harassment is not a predator. He goes after bigger and stronger guys, it's ridiculous to assume this short pocket femme queen is a threat to anyone, specially the guys he's trying to sexually harass. He'd be punched in the face big time if his behavior were of a real predator. Of course this is cancel culture so a joke equals real harm, so what do I know?

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by Anonymousreply 121Last Tuesday at 12:03 PM

r120 True, any accusations nowdays will follow someone forever regardless of proof, or even if it's explicitly disproven.

by Anonymousreply 122Last Tuesday at 12:03 PM

[quote] Jeffree Star apparently earned $35M in a few seconds after launching their Conspiracy palette last year. Shane got at least $10M immediately, and who knows much after that.

And Kylie is a billionaire! These numbers are real people!!!

by Anonymousreply 123Last Tuesday at 12:05 PM

r120 they're a minority of idiots who, if you ask, will strongly stan either Jeffree Star or Tati Westbrook and therefore it doesn't matter what actually happened, they will use that accusation rather than simply saying "I just don't like him", which is the real reason.

by Anonymousreply 124Last Tuesday at 2:07 PM

The major and minor players in Dramageddon Season 3: Karmageddon

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by Anonymousreply 125Last Tuesday at 3:47 PM

[quote]Doesn’t jump into drama


That Google Doc is interesting but it's very Tati Westbrook-slanted. Once again, she paints herself as this clueless victim (a clueless victim who happened to start a beauty empire, which means she isn't clueless and isn't a victim), same way she did with the whole "Bye, Sister" video trying to get James Charles cancelled.

My guess is that she's trying to stay ahead of the drama because she was squarely involved in trying to cancel James Charles originally, and is accusing Shane and Jeffree of manipulating her (again, her poor, clueless CEO self! Tee hee!) so she doesn't get dragged down with them. Remember Tati is a "kick 'em while they're down" kind of drama queen.

Shane and Jeffree are cunts as well, but I'm definitely not buying the "poor widdle me" act from Tati, who, let's recall, was an actress before all this.

If she actually had receipts she would have given them to her lawyer and they would have filed a case and she wouldn't be promoting it on her channel. She did the same thing in the "Bye Sister" video where she claimed to have more proof, but James Charles called her and Jeffree on it and she looked really bad because she didn't actually have anything.

And beauty Youtube followers are DUMB! They would have been eaten by lions in the olden days.

by Anonymousreply 126Last Tuesday at 5:32 PM

Youtube just demonetized all of Shane's videos, this is fucking ridiculous. You can bet the Smiths had something to do with it, Shane is in their top tier of content creators, they wouldn't do it without a big clout pushing it, that Willow video was the final straw.

This is officially a witch hunt on shock comedy, a platform that was once the vehicle to alternative content is now quickly turning into a Disney Channel. Another great accomplishment of Identity Politics.

by Anonymousreply 127Last Tuesday at 7:20 PM

Every time I see Shane’s videos were demonetized I read it as demonized, lol. So Shane won’t make money off them, but Youtube still does right and at an increased level too since they don’t have to pay him. Makes sense for them to do that, they get more in the end.

by Anonymousreply 128Last Tuesday at 7:26 PM

YouTuber content hasn't been worth watching in over five years.

by Anonymousreply 129Last Tuesday at 7:26 PM

Shane’s demise was a long time coming. Dude has gotten so fat and ugly these past few years.

by Anonymousreply 130Last Tuesday at 7:31 PM

I know Howard Stern did blackface and had strippers on his show, but I don’t recall him flirting with pre-teen girls or talking to them about sex for shock entertainment. I guess he just wasn’t as clever and “edgy” as Shane.

by Anonymousreply 131Last Tuesday at 7:32 PM

Howard Stern is a bit older and wiser than Shane.

by Anonymousreply 132Last Tuesday at 7:35 PM

[quote] I hope Tati gets cancelled. Hate that cunt.

I noticed her video linked upthread had 288,000 likes and 122,000 dislikes. That's a huge number of dislikes.

R123, do you realize how much Jeffree Star is selling his make-up? His make-up kits are sold worldwide and apparently regularly get sold out. Conspiracy with Shane Dawson was apparently his biggest selling item ever. Now, the numbers I posted were reported in many places. Are they true? They are probably true the same way we hear a movie star makes $20M a movie, a figure before taxes and other expenses, like paying their management etc. If you haven't noticed Jeffree Star is loaded. Sure Star could be exaggerating but he seems to be truly viewed as a successful businessman and since the numbers from his businesses are public information anyone can go and check them.

by Anonymousreply 133Last Tuesday at 9:23 PM

Plot ideas for the FICTIONALIZED film or miniseries:

1. James Charles really DOES prey on Grayson, inspiring Jeffree, Tati, and Shane (all aging YouTube personalities), to concoct a plan using Grayson’s allegation to ruin their younger and much more beautiful protégée, who they see as a threat to their (fading) careers.

2. James Charles does NOTHING wrong, but the three older vloggers bribe or pressure young Grayson to fabricate the incident.

3. The drama is orchestrated by ALL involved - including JC himself - as a publicity stunt to increase followers and views, with a “he said/she said” strategy that constantly balances allegations from each participant against the others, causing a seesaw effect like a kinetic machine that creates endless conflict, but ruins no one’s career because the allegations are never proven or legally pursued.

Each version concludes with the participants distancing themselves from the Fredo Corleone of their gang, because he’s a dumb, unstable benzodiazepine addict with terrible judgment who’ll capsize the ship if they keep his fat ass on board.

by Anonymousreply 134Last Tuesday at 10:50 PM

R134 Actually, Tati in her video wondered if like number three it was a “social experiment” orchestrated by the other three, with her being the only unknowing one.

by Anonymousreply 135Last Wednesday at 2:25 AM

R135 Plot idea #4

it’s the biggest viral MARKETING experiment ever attempted, and the name of the product line will be a subtle hint. Benedict Cumberbatch would be perfect as the genderless alien mastermind.

by Anonymousreply 136Last Wednesday at 6:27 AM

R135 she is so full of shit. I don't know why some of these morons seem to think she's genuine or sweet or kind. She's shrewd and she's clearly pretending to be clueless in order to protect herself from the fallout, when her attempt to dethrone James Charles failed.

I hope they call her on her bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 137Last Wednesday at 7:37 AM

JC is basically Snow White up against the Evil Queen, Maleficent, AND Ursula.

by Anonymousreply 138Last Wednesday at 8:10 AM

R138 Shane as Ursula, hehehe. Did he ever go as her for Halloween like Colton?

by Anonymousreply 139Last Wednesday at 8:34 AM

Anything about YouTubers I immediately tune out, but yep, this guy seems like a creep.

by Anonymousreply 140Last Wednesday at 8:36 AM

The poster child of pasty.

by Anonymousreply 141Last Wednesday at 8:37 AM

You know is a Tati manipulative cunt when she drags God and the charity the she supports into her drama video. "See how wonderful I am? I'm charitable and love God!" It's what asshole Christians do all the time to justify and excuse their bad behavior or hatred.

Jeffree is a psychopath who was just using Shane's popularity to make some money. I'm sure he's holding onto texts and messages from Shane trashing other Youtubers to hold over his head one day. Shane will regret befriending and going into business with him. I can't believe how many people on here don't recognize shock humor when you see it. It's gross and tasteless and isn't for everyone, including me, but it doesn't make a him a pedophile.

As others have said, James Charles seems relatively normal compared to the rest of them.

by Anonymousreply 142Last Wednesday at 8:57 AM

r138 I suspect JC did something to Grayson, but it probably wasn't that bad, like stuck his dick in mouth when he was snoring, climbed into bed and snuggled up against him, or teabagged him until he woke up. At worst, he probably pulled his pants down and started sucking him off. Technically, still felony sexual assault in California, but some of these things are common in frathouses.

r142 At this point, I'd say Shane is, more likely than not, attracted to children and has downloaded child porn. I really hope his attraction to adults has prevented him from acting out on those urges in real life.

by Anonymousreply 143Last Wednesday at 9:24 AM

A former J* minion, confesses his role in Dramageddon Season 1. He apologizes to Manny MUA, a J* rival at the time, for lying about hooking up with him, the size of his penis, and how his anus smelled like sriracha sauce, among other things.

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by Anonymousreply 144Last Wednesday at 10:27 AM

A woman in her 40's fake crying on video because a bunch of gay YouTubers out mean girled her is just sad.

by Anonymousreply 145Last Wednesday at 11:36 AM

Howard Stern will never get cancelled because the people old enough to know who Howard Stern is are not the cancelling type.

by Anonymousreply 146Last Wednesday at 12:09 PM

This whole thing to me is a sign of how awful the internet has become. They are making millions from shilling make-up and getting into drama. Millions of people watch their drama and apology videos. They are profiting significantly and laughing all the way to the bank while all the sensitive triggered youtube videos cry themselves to sleep over how awful people are being to their beauty guru.

Tati is crying her career is dying...but she bought a 3.3 million dollar home in may to go along with the 3 million dollar apartment she owns. She has a few very expensive cars. The woman appears to be doing just fine shilling her immunity boosters and profiting from the vulnerability of the Covid might kill me crowd. Jeffree has been called out and cancelled like clockwork for the last twenty years. He loves his drama. Shane is a mess. He needs help. They are all rich and have never needed to grow up or act like adults because whining and fighting and apologizing has made them all millionaires.

by Anonymousreply 147Last Wednesday at 12:13 PM

That Tati video is RIDICULOUS. And her lawyers aren’t going to do SHIT. Her crocodile tears are embarrassing. Jeffree and Shane may be canceled but it’s not going to be because of Tati. She has her own skeletons.

by Anonymousreply 148Last Wednesday at 12:22 PM

His business numbers are absolutely not public information R133. It’s a privately held company. It’s does not have shareholders.

by Anonymousreply 149Last Wednesday at 12:27 PM

They all became millionaires several times over by behaving like a remedial high school production of Mean Girls and they should all be cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 150Last Wednesday at 12:31 PM

[quote] Shane and Jeffree are cunts as well, but I'm definitely not buying the "poor widdle me" act from Tati, who, let's recall, was an actress before all this.

EXACTLY, honey. Plus she’s an obvious homophobe given all her Jesus stanning at the beginning of that video. FUCK Tati. She was proven to be a lying cunt before and she’s a lying cunt now.

by Anonymousreply 151Last Wednesday at 12:32 PM

[quote] You know is a Tati manipulative cunt when she drags God and the charity the she supports into her drama video. "See how wonderful I am? I'm charitable and love God!" It's what asshole Christians do all the time to justify and excuse their bad behavior or hatred.


by Anonymousreply 152Last Wednesday at 12:34 PM

R148 If she really had a legal team involved, that apology/supplement infomercial would have never been made or released.

by Anonymousreply 153Last Wednesday at 12:34 PM

Tati got terrible legal advice. Her lawyer is trash. She said a bunch of actionable things in that video including claiming that Jeffree co owns Morphe which Morphe just states was not true. Everything she says is a half truth or a lie. This is going to swing back on her just like the last one did.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

by Anonymousreply 154Last Wednesday at 12:51 PM

The reddit subreddit is using Jafar (among other names) as an insult name for Jeffree. Pretty racist - to use an ethnic name as an insult. Lots of made up names mixed with using an ethnic name to insult him. I commented on it and got shadow banned!

by Anonymousreply 155Last Wednesday at 1:12 PM

[quote] [R142] At this point, I'd say Shane is, more likely than not, attracted to children and has downloaded child porn. I really hope his attraction to adults has prevented him from acting out on those urges in real life.

People like you scare me. You believe someone is a pedophile based on exactly what? The ramblings of teenage girls who have a stick up their righteous asses so deep they deliberately refuse to understand comedy? You actually sound exactly like one yourself, "I'd say Shane is a PEDO because well, I JUST THINK HE IS!!!!"

Let's not forget pedophilia is the traditional tool used by anti-gay people in their attacks.

by Anonymousreply 156Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM

[quote]With the management [Shane Dawson] has, of a top agency, UTA, he'll be doing his horror movie next year and probably another conspiracy series.

I’m surprised Shane is represented by a major talent agency, but he’s got a huge female fan base and generates lots of revenue. UTA’s cost/benefit experts must have determined he’s worth keeping, despite his racist past, and his sexualizing of kids (which is O.K. if you’re “gay!”) His notoriety will only help generate interest in his horror series. We are a sick society, lol.

by Anonymousreply 157Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM

I (a white, christian lady) have been led astray by all these evil homosexuals! Please annihilate them on my my behalf & buy my pills.


by Anonymousreply 158Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM

R158 The beauty community is a dumpster fire of negative gay stereotypes: vain, immature, predatory, sociopaths who glom onto their straight female Hagathas. What a minstrel show. You must be thrilled that they sent gay rights back 60 years!

by Anonymousreply 159Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM

Idiot people pandering to bigger idiots. These people are glorified Mac counter girls.

by Anonymousreply 160Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM

Shane’s intern is Pissseeeeedddd. You can get a Madeline with your macchiato today. Consider it a treat for all the hard work you’re doing on this thread for your pervert boss.

PS. UTA is about to jettison your boss, so start trolling YouTube for your next paid-in-lattes gig.

by Anonymousreply 161Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM

It is interesting how literal many of these haters are. I have no idea what Shane is really like and I haven't listened to most of his videos but I keep seeing clips with people taking everything in the clips very seriously and at face value when it is clear he is trying to be funny. Whether or not he actually is funny is debatable but when someone is a shock jock with a very messed up childhood, poor boundaries, very little life experience outside of youtube, lots of mental illnesses and mental health problems and very dependent on being liked....I have no idea why people think he is talking 100% truth. He had huge positive responses to those clips initially so he made more. People were enjoying and applauding his crude, raunchy, twisted humor and making him a millionaire for making those exact jokes. Is he actually racist or sexually inappropriate in real life - I have no idea, but I don't think you can assume he is just because he makes bad content.

by Anonymousreply 162Last Wednesday at 3:03 PM

R159 is doing the Lord's & my work (same thing). These sodomites shouldn't be allowed on social media & should wear veils when they appear in public. R159, when you finish fingering yourself over my blessed image, please buy my cosmetics!


by Anonymousreply 163Last Wednesday at 3:07 PM

[quote]PS. UTA is about to jettison your boss, so start trolling YouTube for your next paid-in-lattes gig.

Their loss. Pee Pee LePew should sign with U.T.I. instead. I hear they’re a petri dish of new talent!

by Anonymousreply 164Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM

[quote]I think it's clear as water Shane is a full blown homosexual, all this bisexual thing was just his way out of the closet. He's clearly gay so I don't think he cares about women, much less about little girls.

I don't know if it's one poster or several that keep insisting that Shane is gay. Couple things:

1 - Shane himself says he's bisexual. What makes you think you know someone else's sexuality better than they do? Smacks of arrogance.

2 - What makes you think that gay people are clamoring for Shane Dawson to be gay? I sure as heck have no interest in seeing this man linked to homosexuality, especially now.

by Anonymousreply 165Last Wednesday at 6:21 PM

R157 Shane was actually represented by Gersh before moving to UTA, so he is a celebrity top and boutique agencies are fighting for. This won't change. James Gunn is still directing a Disney film regardless of the same stupid witch hunt over shock joke he's made about sex with children and this is Disney we're talking about. Unlike Gunn, Shane is a genuine guy and apologized for his mistakes the right way. You can bet that apology video was vetted by UTA. The only obstacle here is the Smiths, that video resurfacing now made things complicated, they were not prepared for that. I think it's safe to say he will issue an apology directly at the Smiths soon. That would be a smart way to handle it.

R161 is the same dude who was pissed at me on another thread because I work in development, he made the same childish joke about getting coffee, etc, that's how short of imagination he is. Sad pathetic fairy living at some flyover state with her 12 year old idea of what the entertainment industry is.

I don't know Shane, though I am acquainted with people at UTA who manages him. I find this story fascinating and it's pretty clear Shane is gay, he even became very effeminate once he came out as "bisexual". He's a typical gay femme fairy. I like him, he's cute and awkward, but bi he isn't, let's get real.

by Anonymousreply 166Last Wednesday at 6:28 PM

[quote] It is interesting how literal many of these haters are. I have no idea what Shane is really like and I haven't listened to most of his videos but I keep seeing clips with people taking everything in the clips very seriously and at face value when it is clear he is trying to be funny.

That's what happens when your audience is mostly teenage girls. Add effeminate shallow gays that came with his beauty world experience and this circus was expected. He didn't get this much vitriol with this "blackface" past from his fans before, because it was the beauty community people that took this absurd accusations to the core.

If I were Shane I'd be collecting evidence to sue for slander all the tea channels blatantly accusing him of being a pedophile. I'd also gather as many teens with their social media and would sue them in court too. That'd send the message you can't just slander people based on jokes. Good luck proving your accusations in court.

Thousands of dollars later and you won't hear a peep about calling someone a pedo without proof. Even the far right is going after him.

by Anonymousreply 167Last Wednesday at 6:35 PM

[Quote] and how his anus smelled like sriracha sauce, among other things.


by Anonymousreply 168Last Wednesday at 6:49 PM

R33 they were a band from the 80s that was known for Morrissey and Meat is Murder, Rose

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by Anonymousreply 169Last Wednesday at 7:09 PM

This Tati bitch needs to be sued for all the vague and vile shit she's spewing because she "Cares".

by Anonymousreply 170Last Wednesday at 8:00 PM

R170 right? What's worse is that a lot of these people BELIEVE her. I start to see why televangelists are able to hoodwink so many gullible saps into turning over their life savings.

by Anonymousreply 171Last Wednesday at 8:13 PM

Shane Dawson always looks disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 172Last Wednesday at 8:16 PM

Nobody tell them about Cards against Humanity. The community would roll over and die at the thought people would play such a vile game.

And while not about Shane, I saw Beiber sued his false accusers for 20 million - that is a good way to get people to think before they blabber accusations about people to get views or clout

by Anonymousreply 173Last Wednesday at 8:17 PM

R173 can you imagine when they run across the "A big black dick" card?

by Anonymousreply 174Last Wednesday at 8:20 PM

r156 The jokes weren't enough for me--they could've just been shock humor, but he's also admitted to participating in live streaming lewd content to preteens, which is classic grooming behavior and also happens to violate state and federal laws. For example:

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by Anonymousreply 175Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM

R175, you can't actually see anything in that video or know what is happening or who is involved. The guy making that video was on 90 Day Fiance and is now trying to roll that 15 minutes of fame into being a Youtube drama channel! All the videos were sent to police months ago by various people so if there were crimes committed, then the ball would be rolling on that. I am sure they have investigated to see what was staged, what was real, who was involved etc.

by Anonymousreply 176Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM

R167 Most of the complaints are for his inappropriate behavior with minors and his fixation on pedophilia as being so “haha, funny” just because it’s taboo. True, some comedians can pull off bestiality and pedophilia jokes if they are clever and have a point, but Shane’s humor is lazy, dumb and repetitive, which is why people sometimes wonder if he’s joking or venting. (Where there’s smoke, you know.)

These opinions aren't libelous because there’s plenty of video evidence to support them. Shane even did his own video called “Creepy TV Moments” where he made similar insinuations about Family Feud host Richard Dawson. Ironic. But - yeah - if anyone actually accused him of actual illegal behavior with NO witnesses or evidence, I agree that would be potentially libelous.

by Anonymousreply 177Last Wednesday at 10:31 PM

R177 YouTube is full of videos of people accusing him of being a pedophile. You don't have to have a "he molested me"! accusation for it to be libellous. It's still character defamation.

And you definitely don't need a hard case to sue someone.

by Anonymousreply 178Last Thursday at 3:30 AM

R178 If that’s the case, I’m sure Shane will sue for libel because he can afford a top-notch legal team. However, if someone has receipts on him proving otherwise, he won’t be filing libel suits anytime soon.

by Anonymousreply 179Last Thursday at 7:49 AM

r179 That's not exactly the only reason he might not file, but I think he should pick a couple of the most egregious ones and go after them to make an example.

I suppose with your logic he's a pedophile if he DOESN'T decide to drop $200k on a lawsuit.

by Anonymousreply 180Last Thursday at 10:58 AM

Maybe I’m giving them to much credit, but do you think Jeffree and Shane instigated the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell to take the heat off of them?

by Anonymousreply 181Last Thursday at 11:38 AM

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A trailer for Dramageddon, the trilogy (2020)

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by Anonymousreply 183Last Friday at 9:38 AM

r181 I think it's highly likely they were involved!

by Anonymousreply 184Last Friday at 9:43 AM

R182. So much confirmation bias in that slide show. I don't get all these people who think Tati is just an innocent, sweet, naive, sensitive soul who just wants the best for everyone and has no responsibility for any of this. And all the speculation and assumptions about well so and so's eyes looked here and that means he was thinking x or so and so was obviously going to say (insert insult) but stopped himself just in time. Apparently they are all psychic. Everyone knows who Jeffree Star is and what he is like - he has been the same for 20 years.

Cancel culture is just the new cyberbulling. Creating gossip and rumors, trying to destroy people's lives, picking apart their every word, their appearance, their mannerisms, rubbernecking, being gleeful at the dispair, distress, and downfall of others.

by Anonymousreply 185Last Friday at 10:18 AM

r185 it's unreal. They totally buy the "I'm so sweet and innocent!" act from her, and you just have to look at her actions to see that she's anything but. She's ruthless and manipulative and I don't understand why they can't see right through it the way the rest of us seem to be able to.

Cancel culture needs to be stopped. It definitely is cyber bullying; people use it to try to destroy someone they don't like, and the mob goes along with it. It's amplified by a thousandfold on social media versus real life bullying.

by Anonymousreply 186Last Friday at 10:26 AM

R186 Maybe I am just old but I find it a bit shocking how little critical thinking there is. People read, see or hear one thing and just go with that as fact, not caring about context or meaning, or even knowing what it is about! Jumping on a bandwagon about something you are completely ignorant about, and being part of the mob seems to be a common practice now. People just read the headline, not the article...they are so easily swayed into believing whatever they hear, and they are incredibly fickle, changing with the wind depending on how much they like someone. Grumble grumble grumble but I really think social media is creating a generation of vapid, mean girls.

I looked up a bunch of info on Tati. to get a better read on her..found a discussion board that has tracked her every move for over ten years! She tried to be an actress - doing tv and reality tv until that failed. Nothing really bad about her but her husband is not a nice guy. He comes from a wealthy family - although his wealth came with some very underhanded stuff that his family sued him for!

The video shows why her dance career failed! She said she had grown up taking dance...she should sue her teachers!

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by Anonymousreply 187Last Friday at 10:37 AM

When a woman in her 40s starts a feud with a teenage boy over vitamins I think it's safe to assume she's not a great person.

by Anonymousreply 188Last Friday at 12:11 PM

A bunch of mean girls and guys in their mid 30s and early 40s acting like children to an audience of teenagers and immature young adults. A summary of all of this. Pure gossip people are treating like the second coming, because involves money and the businesses. Shane is the scapegoat here. His cancelation has nothing to do with the drama of Tati/Jeffree/James and they used his past to smear him a day after he decided he wasn't having it with this clique of mean girls.

Tati's video has 375K likes and 268K dislikes. It's pretty even. Trisha Paytas video destroying Tati Westbrook video is currently 171K likes and 24k dislikes. I think Shane will come out of this OK, apparently his stuff is still being sold on Jeffree's site, so he doesn't need Walmart or whatever to sell his stuff.

Frightening how in the end, this is all a popularity contest throwing us back to high school.

by Anonymousreply 189Last Friday at 2:44 PM

Trisha Payta's video is very good and she talks about BLM and she's straight to the point on Shane (her friend), Jeffree and Tati.

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by Anonymousreply 190Last Friday at 2:52 PM

Shane’s older videos are all over the place now, but there’s one with his mom being creepy, which actually made me feel sorry for him because his family seems f*d up. It’s likely they normalized that kind of behavior, causing him to have a delayed adolescence (I can totally see an average 13 year old boy doing the offensive schtick Shane did when he was his 20s.)

So maybe he HAS grown up since then. Have any of his blackface routines or pedo comments been very recent?

by Anonymousreply 191Last Friday at 3:08 PM

r189 they're trying to cancel JS too, and he actually deserves to be cancelled. Psychopaths shouldn't have that much money or power.

Also Shane's makeup seems to have been a side business, as he has other irons in the fire.

by Anonymousreply 192Last Friday at 5:18 PM

r188 Tati isn't in her 40s; She's in her 30s and few years older than Jeffree Star and Shane Dawson. They were all pathetic 30-somethings who weaponized their followers against a young gayling over vitamins and makeup.

r190 Trisha is a trainwreck of human being. She mentions BLM to deflect criticism away from Shane, but what substantive things has she done to use her platform or personal time/money to further the movement? An IG or Twitter post doesn't count.

r192 Jeffree is the worst of all three and always seems to survive scandals that would take down other gurus/personalities -- he's like a roach or a Trump. It's particularly disgusting that Jeffree, a gay man, was playing up a homophobic stereotype (the gay predator) to attack James.

by Anonymousreply 193Last Friday at 8:52 PM

Tati is forty-two, she lies about her age.

by Anonymousreply 194Last Friday at 9:06 PM

Tati is NOT in her thirties.

by Anonymousreply 195Last Friday at 9:34 PM

Tati is a 40 something Karen a very mean and dangerous one.

by Anonymousreply 196Yesterday at 4:04 PM

I thought she was barren adding to the fraught “I was going to have IVF treatment, but was too wrecked from Dramageddon 2 and my fragile body could support a life growing in it and it’s all Jeffree and Shanes vault I’ll never have children now innuendo.” But a video came up where she has James hide in the closet, which she makes snide remarks about multiple times, and then he jumps out and surprises her son by doing him up in drag. If she was so worried about predator James molesting straights why did she have him do a drag make over on her own child? Unless her son is gay maybe?

by Anonymousreply 197Yesterday at 4:35 PM

Yeah there's no way that hag is 38. She's mid-forties. Her face is too aged to be anything but at least 40, no matter how much makeup and soft filter lighting she gives herself.

Shane is 31.

Jeffree is 34.

by Anonymousreply 198Yesterday at 5:16 PM

r197 she never thought he was a predator. She is very manipulative and for some reason, dumb people seem to fall for it. I'm surprised she hasn't tried becoming a self-help guru where she dispenses pop psychology meaningless bumper-sticker babble.

by Anonymousreply 199Yesterday at 5:18 PM

Waiting till your over forty to have a baby, yeah, that's a smart move.

by Anonymousreply 200Yesterday at 5:26 PM

OMG!!!! I am trying to understand it all! Its all so stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Tati, and she is my age, why is she involved with this trash. Her husband is loaded... And her fake "tears??"

For the life of me I cannot figure this shit out!

All I can say is that Jeffree Starr seems like a HUMAN TRASHBIN (at his core) and the other dude is just paying for his awful words and actions from 5-10 years ago?

Its the most bizarre group of folks, ever

by Anonymousreply 201Yesterday at 5:31 PM

R201, you sound like a straight homophobic woman. Tati is an angel and the gay men around him are trash? Yeah right. She's the worst of them all.

by Anonymousreply 202Yesterday at 7:20 PM

R202- MORE!!! What is the deal with these people!!!????

I truly do not know what the fuck is up and who is who?

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